Did you know Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings?
November 9, 2009 2:26 PM   Subscribe

 
Let me be the first to cast doubt on the veracity of this.
posted by Saddo at 2:29 PM on November 9, 2009 [4 favorites]


thankyou everyone!
posted by Saddo at 2:29 PM on November 9, 2009


I still buy flowers every year on the anniversary of the Edge's assassination.
posted by GuyZero at 2:30 PM on November 9, 2009 [10 favorites]


I don't believe in The Beatles.
posted by maudlin at 2:32 PM on November 9, 2009 [2 favorites]


I think all I have to say is, "....."
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 2:33 PM on November 9, 2009


Cue the Twilight Zone music.
posted by bearwife at 2:34 PM on November 9, 2009


Yeah, but the mono version represents the band's real intentions.
posted by Joe Beese at 2:35 PM on November 9, 2009 [6 favorites]


I think it's a mashup album of solo Beatles work, but I'd have to listen to it all to be sure. Not very impressive work, though. Very cluttered.
posted by flatluigi at 2:35 PM on November 9, 2009 [3 favorites]


I liked them better when they were recording with Jay-Z.
posted by box at 2:37 PM on November 9, 2009 [7 favorites]


www.therewasonlyonehighlandermovie.com
posted by smcniven at 2:37 PM on November 9, 2009 [7 favorites]


"On Sept. 9, 2009 I experienced something that I still am having trouble believing happened to me. "

As has everyone who has ever written a letter to Penthouse.

Besides, we all know the real truth.
posted by Halloween Jack at 2:39 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


"Bee Thousand" is better.
posted by dhammond at 2:39 PM on November 9, 2009 [17 favorites]


I loved their work with ccc and ill chemist.

wait, what?
posted by jquinby at 2:40 PM on November 9, 2009


Wow, that audio came off a cassette? The Beatles were recording gods!
posted by The Winsome Parker Lewis at 2:42 PM on November 9, 2009


I personally have a blank C60 which I consider strong evidence in support of my theory that the Beatles never existed.
posted by Wolfdog at 2:43 PM on November 9, 2009 [8 favorites]


Also, that FAQ is pretty funny
posted by Wolfdog at 2:43 PM on November 9, 2009


This explains Weezer's Raditude, right?
posted by naju at 2:47 PM on November 9, 2009


Fuck The Beatles.
posted by elmono at 3:03 PM on November 9, 2009


I think this should have been posted in Bizarro Metafilter.
posted by Kabanos at 3:04 PM on November 9, 2009 [5 favorites]


I prefer the universe where the Beatles didn't suffer a horrifying decline.
posted by anazgnos at 3:05 PM on November 9, 2009 [2 favorites]


I wonder what band this is supposed to be marketing for. The domain registration info is all private.
posted by lholladay at 3:05 PM on November 9, 2009


V.I Lenin, you idiot!
posted by Astro Zombie at 3:08 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


This guy went to a "parallel universe" alright, just as he says in his piece of crap essay. The "track" called "Sick to Death" consists of some Lennon demos ("Gimme Some Truth"), a George solo tune excerpt, a splash of a Ringo vocal, and some pathetic pseudo- backing tracks. Climb in the back with your head in the clouds and you're gone.
posted by Seekerofsplendor at 3:08 PM on November 9, 2009 [2 favorites]


The Beatles may not have broken up, but Aerosmith just did.
posted by infinitewindow at 3:09 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


I like it -- giving a mash-up a little bit of a fun back-story is alright in my book. The tracks are pretty good, too.

Now could he go back and get a few cassettes from a universe in which Rick Astley never broke up? The internet needs that.
posted by chasing at 3:12 PM on November 9, 2009




Sounds like an acid trip to me.
posted by Plug1 at 3:14 PM on November 9, 2009


I now can declare "mashups" to be dead.

Well, I'm glad that fad is over!
posted by deanc at 3:14 PM on November 9, 2009


It's what would happen if "Got My Mind Set on You", "Silly Little Love Songs", and "Imagine" had a Ménage à trois...

performed with the same flair for dramatic immediacy and air of aesthetic refinement that Ringo Starr displayed in his comic portrayal of Atouk the caveman in the 1981 caveman comedy Caveman.
posted by Atom Eyes at 3:18 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


The Beatles may not have broken up, but Aerosmith just did.
Oh thank GAWD!!!
Finally!
posted by Floydd at 3:22 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


"performed with the same flair for dramatic immediacy and air of aesthetic refinement that Ringo Starr displayed in his comic portrayal of Atouk the caveman in the 1981 caveman comedy Caveman."

Clearly, the fans have been royally zug-zugged.
posted by markkraft at 3:29 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]




Stephen Baxter gave the concept a fuller treatment in a short story called "The Twelfth Album." The titular LP, God, includes full-band cuts of "All Things Must Pass" and "Instant Karma," and culminates with a Lennon rendition of "Maybe I'm Amazed."
posted by Iridic at 3:34 PM on November 9, 2009


WHY WON'T THEY REFUTE THE CHARGES?
posted by potsmokinghippieoverlord at 3:36 PM on November 9, 2009 [3 favorites]


Now could he go back and get a few cassettes from a universe in which Rick Astley never broke up? The internet needs that.

Rick Astley is one man, so there is no chance of him breaking up (though this first made me think about Rick being shot into space, freezing, then breaking up upon re-entry into earth's atmosphere). Anyway, according to his Wiki discography (his Discogs.com discography is more detailed, but lacking his 2005 album of jazz standards).
posted by filthy light thief at 3:37 PM on November 9, 2009


If the tape really was found near Turlock, then is it possible that the man responsible for traveling back in history and creating a time disturbance breaking up the Beatles is Gary Condit?
posted by Kirklander at 3:37 PM on November 9, 2009


Is he also the one that screwed up Kubla Khan?
posted by box at 3:42 PM on November 9, 2009 [6 favorites]


Previously.
posted by ardgedee at 3:48 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


It's like Stephen Baxter's story, "The Twelfth Album," but with less story and an actual album.

Putting on the pedantic hat for a moment, his story is unbelievable in more ways than one. Even if interdimensional travel was real, it would still be insanely dangerous. Life (and solid matter) is only possible in our universe because the laws of physics are tuned a certain way, with a number of physical constants falling within a very small range of possibilities. If there really are an infinite number of parallel universes out there, it stands to reason that most of them will have physical laws that work differently from our own, with those constants at different, non-survivable values.

Opening a portal from our universe into another would, in the unimaginably vast majority of cases, result in accessing a vacuum on the other side (just think about how much empty space there is in our own universe and you can see how unlikely it would be to randomly hit a planet in the other one) - or even worse, you might open your portal into a world where physics works differently and receive a blast of searing radiation, or gravitational attraction could suck you and everything nearby through the portal where you'd be crushed on the other side. Or some weird quantum effect might make the matter in your body dissolve into loose subatomic particles, or you might be transformed into strange matter, or who knows what...
posted by Kevin Street at 3:49 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


The description is basically cribbed from H Beam Piper's 'Paratime' stories, where time travel into to the past or future but parallel earths that split off from our own. It's not really any dimension at all ad infinitium.
posted by GuyZero at 3:57 PM on November 9, 2009


I like how the first FAQ is "How can you prove that this tape isn't just a really nice cover band of The Beatles?" and his answer is that cover bands don't exist in the parallel dimension. Well, I guess that answers that.
posted by mhum at 4:03 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


I have vague recollections of "Cracked Pepper" posted here. I likes it more. This fails to be sufficiently Beatlesque to make my heart beat faster.
posted by cccorlew at 4:04 PM on November 9, 2009


The Beatles may not have broken up, but Aerosmith just did.

Such a shame. They had at least another negative-twenty-two years of good music left in them.
posted by drjimmy11 at 4:04 PM on November 9, 2009 [14 favorites]


Just listened to the first track. I like it. This is fun. I got a John Titor vibe from the backstory. Good job, guy.
posted by meadowlark lime at 4:08 PM on November 9, 2009


This is just like that episode of The Single Guy.

"Your love is a roller-coaster.

I'm hotter than a toaster.

Yeah.

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah."
posted by solipsophistocracy at 4:10 PM on November 9, 2009 [2 favorites]


Is this an ARG?
posted by divabat at 4:10 PM on November 9, 2009


Yes, sounds like a mashup but. . .

"Gators Swamp Jamboree" will definitely be well received by Gator fans across the multiverse.
posted by rdone at 4:16 PM on November 9, 2009


Whatever, Turlock Dude With Internet AND Turlock-level Dimebag Access:

You want to hear Beatles music as if it came from another dimension? Pick up the new Remasters.

We now live in an alternate universe where the Beatles just released the ultimate indie-band coup of all time: an entire discography at once, with batshit insane clarity and cafeteria-sized dollops of Sheer Fucking Awesome.
posted by Lipstick Thespian at 4:20 PM on November 9, 2009 [4 favorites]


I thought "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" couldn't suck any worse than it already did. I was wrong.
posted by kirkaracha at 4:25 PM on November 9, 2009


"Everyday Chemistry" is not a bad name for an album. And "The Beatles" is actually a pretty good name for a band. Very clever.
posted by chavenet at 4:25 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


The Beatles may not have broken up, but Aerosmith just did.

Too little, too late.
posted by jokeefe at 4:25 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


I like how the first FAQ is "How can you prove that this tape isn't just a really nice cover band of The Beatles?" and his answer is that cover bands don't exist in the parallel dimension.

Yeah - cover bands, like the early Beatles.
posted by Joey Michaels at 4:38 PM on November 9, 2009 [6 favorites]


I think this should have been posted in Bizarro Metafilter

I believe that exists, called fark, or reedit, or something like that.
posted by sundri at 4:50 PM on November 9, 2009


I once travelled to a parallel dimension, but we never got around to talking about the Beatles. I spent most of my time trying to explain why 20% of the video games in our universe feature an Italian plumber with wildly stereotyped attributes.
posted by ColdChef at 4:53 PM on November 9, 2009 [5 favorites]


I found a comma error in his account of what happened; it couldn't be credible.
posted by The Potate at 4:58 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


Alternately ...

The Tape Beatles
Klaatu
posted by philip-random at 5:13 PM on November 9, 2009


EmpressCallipygos : I think all I have to say is, "....."

I think you mean:
.
.
?
Meh
posted by pla at 5:39 PM on November 9, 2009


By an amazing coincidence I also traveled to an alternate dimension in which the Beatles never broke up. But in that alternate dimension, Stu Sutcliffe lived and remained in the band, while McCartney left in 1964 to persue an offer to be a solo headliner in a Blackpool music hall, so the Beatles that remained had half the talent and no real musical discipline or pop sensibility and they never got past playing drunken prank-laden sets in half-filled clubs.
posted by George_Spiggott at 6:44 PM on November 9, 2009 [2 favorites]


Maybe this one of those viral puzzle games for some TV show. Anybody see any secret codes anywhere?
posted by fungible at 6:44 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


No, no -- Fuck the Beatles
posted by Methylviolet at 6:46 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


Actually, in the alternate dimension, Paul McCartney never recorded Give My Regards to Broad Street. Let alone made the movie of the same name.
posted by blucevalo at 7:10 PM on November 9, 2009


oh shit this universe again, okay just don't buy the lima beans adn try to enjoy the radio without screaming at people, lima beans, lima beans, lima-
posted by The Whelk at 7:45 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


More like mush up.
posted by gallois at 8:02 PM on November 9, 2009


I was thinking of the Mormon angle to all this; the one where Nathaniel allows one person to listen to the tape and that person could describe it to the followers, or perhaps notate its music.
posted by sleslie at 8:15 PM on November 9, 2009


I didn't read the FAQ. I didn't read the backstory. I didn't have any real hope that this would be true, but there was still some small glimmer of hope that this was, indeed, a found object of some long forgotten tribute band - let's call them the Billy Shears Project - of such talent as to have recorded new songs that seemed indistinguishable from what The Beatles might have recorded had the held it together after the Abey Road sessions.

What I got with the first track was a half-assed mash-up of "Tomorrow Never Knows" - one of my favorite songs - with "Band on the Run" - one of my least favorite. "Within You Without You" might have been in there as well, but I couldn't be sure.

I guess I just wish that more effort had been put into the project, but then again, I really have no idea what the point of the project was.
posted by Navelgazer at 8:36 PM on November 9, 2009


Actually, I gave this guy a call earlier, and did a bit of footwork, and all of this seems to check out. It is true that the tape is kind of a muddle of songs we all know and love, but, unfortunately, the band on Earth B is really just not all that great, and mainly known as a B-rate Monkees knock-off.
posted by kaibutsu at 9:11 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


You know, I hate to sound like a crotchety old so-and-so, out of touch with the groovy things the kids are doing with their machines, but really, this mashup shit is getting so boring that I'm bored just thinking about how boring it is.

Now get off my fuckin' lawn.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 9:46 PM on November 9, 2009


Revolution 9 - backwards

Kind of how I feel today.
posted by philip-random at 9:56 PM on November 9, 2009


a found object of some long forgotten tribute band - let's call them the Billy Shears Project - of such talent as to have recorded new songs that seemed indistinguishable from what The Beatles might have recorded had the held it together after the Abey Road sessions.

I believe that's Badfinger.
posted by philip-random at 9:58 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


I agree, fuck any genre that has a bad album. It makes listening to music so much easier these days.
posted by flatluigi at 10:09 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


Mashups are like any "new form". Fresh and easy to fall for at first. But then you get tired of the tricks and start demanding genuine depth and relevance.

Something like this for instance, which is arguably not even a mashup; just images from a movie cut to a song. But what a movie! What a song!

Neubauten + Tarkovsky - together at last.
posted by philip-random at 10:20 PM on November 9, 2009


I love the dimension where the Beatles murg groust d'laiania ouritrm 3rteyubn, krod cokee.
posted by Stonestock Relentless at 10:28 PM on November 9, 2009 [1 favorite]


The Beat_Alls are toast.
posted by Mojojojo at 11:03 PM on November 9, 2009


I love the dimension where the Beatles murg groust d'laiania ouritrm 3rteyubn, krod cokee.

That's what I was trying to get at earlier.
posted by philip-random at 12:19 AM on November 10, 2009


His phony beatlemania...has bitten the dust.
posted by artdrectr at 1:18 AM on November 10, 2009 [3 favorites]


I was expecting this to be a website based in an alternate universe where the Beatles never broke up. That at least would've been a little bit clever. This is just stupid.
posted by Target Practice at 1:28 AM on November 10, 2009


You sure it's not an ELO album? Geoff Lynne had a whole lot of McCartney going on
posted by mattoxic at 1:45 AM on November 10, 2009


I have a cassette tape from 1969 that was never recorded on, but was in a box with many different copies of "Yesterday and Today", some with fake pictures of the Fabs holding meat.

Anyway, the tape, not too long ago I put it into my cassette-dubbing deck, and I can hear the boys talking on there! Only three though, not Ringo. It's really, really faint, I need to hear my headphones and it only works when it's plugged into a tube amp. And they're partying it up and playing old Motown stuff.

Go ahead and laugh, *you* haven't got one!
posted by Twang at 2:17 AM on November 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


Well then Harrison and Lennon gots some 'splainin' to do.
posted by stormpooper at 6:23 AM on November 10, 2009


Crowded House's "Not the Girl You Think You Are" sounds like a White Album outtake.
posted by kirkaracha at 6:25 AM on November 10, 2009


After listening to 20 seconds of a random track, I can confidently state that this sounds much more interesting than that Jeff Lynne crapola.
posted by not_on_display at 6:39 AM on November 10, 2009


Read Lewis Shiner's story "Get Back," a great take on a similar idea.
posted by aught at 6:52 AM on November 10, 2009


I guess I just wish that more effort had been put into the project

Yeah, it's a cute idea, but the backstory lurches too awkwardly between "aren't I precious" and "pull my finger."

Read Lewis Shiner's story "Get Back," a great take on a similar idea.

His novel Glimpses covers the same ground, involving the Beatles' Get Back, Hendrix's First Rays of the New Rising Sun, Wilson's Smile, and Morrison's Celebration of the Lizard. A bit Big Chill-ish, but I remember liking it when it came out.
posted by octobersurprise at 7:23 AM on November 10, 2009


Revolution 9 - backwards

Funny how that song makes about as much sense backwards as it does forwards.

Now could he go back and get a few cassettes from a universe in which Rick Astley never broke up? The internet needs that.

Never gonna break you up...

sorry, couldn't resist
posted by ZsigE at 7:38 AM on November 10, 2009


Funny how that song makes about as much sense backwards as it does forwards.

It works in mono. It really does.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 7:39 AM on November 10, 2009


It works in mono. It really does.

Would you mind explaining how? This isn't intended to be snarky - I'm genuinely interested in what you get out of that song. My personal reaction to it is similar to if it was, for example, a piece of modern art that shows someone getting graphically murdered. I may appreciate the technical skill involved, the thought that's gone into it and the careful composition. I may even like it for the deep messages it conveys.

But that doesn't change the fact that it's ugly and I don't want it in my house. So to get back to the music - am I just listening to it in the wrong way? How does the mono version help?
posted by ZsigE at 8:00 AM on November 10, 2009


Honestly, I'd be more excited if he had brought back a couple of tapes of Bulldaggers concerts. Those are kind of hard to get around here.
posted by happyroach at 8:37 AM on November 10, 2009


I'm genuinely interested in what you get out of that song. My personal reaction to it is similar to if it was, for example, a piece of modern art that shows someone getting graphically murdered.

First time I heard Revolution 9, I was twelve. A friend's older brother said, "This is the song where it says Paul is dead," and so we listened for clues. Weird, we thought, it's not really a song. Or, if it is a song, it's a song that doesn't really have much music in it. Is that possible? It must be. This is the god damned Beatles!!!! And so we listened to it again, and then again, and then again. And thus were our tiny minds expanded by this strange, disturbing, dare I say beautiful collage of pure sonic jabberwock.

Okay, now could you please explain to me what you get out of "Yesterday". My personal reaction to it is similar to if it was, for example, just another treacle infused latter day Paul McCartney solo abomination, soundtrack to a million prozac overdoses.
posted by philip-random at 8:58 AM on November 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


Sorry, I guess that was a bit snarky.
posted by philip-random at 8:58 AM on November 10, 2009



This was pretty great. Sorry, haters.
posted by orville sash at 11:42 AM on November 10, 2009 [2 favorites]


Besides, we all know the real truth.
posted by Halloween Jack at 2:39 PM on November 9 [1 favorite has favorites +] [!]

wow. stephen king killed john lennon, aided by RMN? wtflol

"just another treacle infused latter day Paul McCartney solo abomination, soundtrack to a million prozac overdoses"

yeah, macartney was only in the beatles and only wrote loads of awesome music with them. he wrote blackbird ffs!!

god i get so sick of people dissing paul macartney. yoko ono is a differennt matter entirely...
posted by marienbad at 11:45 AM on November 10, 2009


Not bad.
posted by mrgrimm at 12:22 PM on November 10, 2009


yeah, macartney was only in the beatles and only wrote loads of awesome music with them. he wrote blackbird ffs!!

god i get so sick of people dissing paul macartney. yoko ono is a differennt matter entirely...


First up, I didn't dis Blackbird, I dissed Yesterday by comparing it to ... latter day solo McCartney recordings. But yeah, it was still a snark ...

But the snark goes both ways. How about I give you your McCartney silly-love-songs if you give me my Lennon music-concrete-meltdowns? Somewhere in the middle, I suspect we'll find the intersection of Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane ... which is really what it's all about, isn't it?

As for Yoko, we'll just leave her out of it.
posted by philip-random at 1:17 PM on November 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


And thus were our tiny minds expanded by this strange, disturbing, dare I say beautiful collage of pure sonic jabberwock.

I'm not denying for a moment that it's mind-expanding, and possibly even cutting-edge (I'm sure the Beatles weren't the first to do avant-garde music like that, but they were certainly the first to bring it an audience as wide as theirs). Where I part company with you, though, is on "beautiful" - although weirdness isn't necessarily bad, making something that is both incredibly weird and also beautiful is a very difficult undertaking, and on this occasion I don't think they managed it. "Beauty" is obviously very subjective though, so I'll leave it at that.

Okay, now could you please explain to me what you get out of "Yesterday".

It's got a nice tune that you can whistle, it's constructed simply, and the words are pleasantly poetic while also playing with the language enough to make it notable ("yesterday came suddenly" is a clever little phrase, for example). That meant I liked it on the first listen, even if it's not that deep. "Revolution No. 9" has layer upon layer of complexity, and would probably reward extended study, but I personally find it an unpleasant enough listen that I can't be bothered to do that.

Again, it's the difference between a picture of a pretty landscape, which isn't that impressive but which you're happy to look at every day, and something like this (not safe for people who are scared by Francis Bacon paintings).

Sorry, I guess that was a bit snarky.

Not a problem. In my experience The White Album is one of the most divisive albums I've come across, so we're doing pretty well so far!
posted by ZsigE at 1:28 PM on November 10, 2009


Okay, now could you please explain to me what you get out of "Yesterday". My personal reaction to it is similar to if it was, for example, just another treacle infused latter day Paul McCartney solo abomination, soundtrack to a million prozac overdoses.

I'm with you there. I hate that song. Maybe I'd like it better if it were recorded in an alternate universe where it doesn't suck.
posted by grapefruitmoon at 1:39 PM on November 10, 2009


Yoko Ono and the Plastic Ono Band performing on Nov 5 on Jimmy Fallon.

Yoko makes me laugh ... in an Emperor's New Clothes sort of a way.

I like to think of myself as no stranger to weirdness (I've already defended Revolution 9 in this thread) but, I'm sorry, from the pit of my subjective gut (and my ears), YOKO JUST ISN'T VERY GOOD.

Give me Diamanda Galas.
Give me Nina Hagen.
Give me Lydia Lunch.

But please, keep Ono on the conceptual side of things.
posted by philip-random at 3:11 PM on November 10, 2009


Sitting in a neighbor's garden/
waiting for the Son/
if the Son don't come/
all the petals gonna lose their way/

I am the Same Man/
I am the Gardener/
I am the Sane man/

Who do you choose, who who who do they choose?

Texters/espers/
snarking toasters/
don't you think that Youtube laughs at you?

I am the Same Man/
I am the Gardener/
I am the Sane Man/

Who do you choose, who who who do they choose?

bright light, searing heat, and then this old man playing the piano here turns to me wearing round, owlish glasses right before he has to go on stage....)

posted by Lipstick Thespian at 5:51 AM on November 11, 2009


I wonder what band this is supposed to be marketing for.

Exactly. Viral marketing all the way kids. Now do we try to figure out what it's marketing for, thus creating buzz, or do we walk away and let the marketing attempt fail utterly?

I'm going with Option B.
posted by Doohickie at 10:49 AM on November 11, 2009


That wonderful B-52s' cover of "Don't Worry" inexplicably* reminds me of "Don't Put Marbles In Your Nose" by Brendan Smalls.

*Actually, it's explained by the seemingly alternating contradictory exhortations.
posted by metaplectic at 11:12 AM on November 12, 2009


At the bottom, so many skeptics question the veracity of visitation by aliens. I will address these unbelievers by saying-everything you know is wrong.

A similar event happened to me out in the desert. I recall it clearly. It was hotter in Hooker than Heater that day, and hotter in Heater than Hellmouth...
posted by beelzbubba at 11:31 AM on November 12, 2009


Next thing, you'll be claiming dogs flew spaceships and the Aztecs invented the vacation.
posted by philip-random at 12:14 PM on November 12, 2009


> Yoko makes me laugh ... in an Emperor's New Clothes sort of a way.

Yoko Ono's never struck me as somebody who harbors illusions about her singing. However she sounds is how she intended to sound.

I admire her for performing in front of huge audiences. I wish other challenging artists could also get that kind of access (and undoubtedly it's because she has leverage they don't), but it's good that at least she can.
posted by ardgedee at 12:32 PM on November 12, 2009


Next thing, you'll be claiming dogs flew spaceships and the Aztecs invented the vacation.
posted by philip-random at 12:14 PM on November 12 [+] [!]


I won't make such claims; however, I am certain that Benjamin Franklin was our only president who was never president.
posted by beelzbubba at 5:24 PM on November 12, 2009


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