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April 20, 2010 7:31 AM Subscribe
420 Room Search is a place to find 420 Roommates/alternative living situations, as well as a Green Book.
Some cities don't yet have any listings.
Some cities don't yet have any listings.
So if I take an illegal drug, this is a handy site for me to put down my name and address? What an astoundingly well-thought-out idea!
posted by DU at 7:34 AM on April 20, 2010 [13 favorites]
posted by DU at 7:34 AM on April 20, 2010 [13 favorites]
I'm glad that it doesn't seem to be a priority in our fair city, but I'm still astounded at the fact that the police don't just respond to every 420 ad on Craigslist with a "Dude, yeah!" and show up with a Phish t-shirt and handcuffs.
posted by Madamina at 7:39 AM on April 20, 2010 [4 favorites]
posted by Madamina at 7:39 AM on April 20, 2010 [4 favorites]
Once again, we learn that soft heads make for soft targets.
posted by mhoye at 7:40 AM on April 20, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by mhoye at 7:40 AM on April 20, 2010 [2 favorites]
What happens if they get a 421st roommate?
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 7:40 AM on April 20, 2010 [3 favorites]
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 7:40 AM on April 20, 2010 [3 favorites]
Looks like a good way to find a flaky roommate/intolerable living situation.
posted by PuppyCat at 7:43 AM on April 20, 2010 [8 favorites]
posted by PuppyCat at 7:43 AM on April 20, 2010 [8 favorites]
Can somebody make an overlay of this vs. Craigslist so I know who to avoid next time I'm looking?
posted by Threeway Handshake at 7:48 AM on April 20, 2010
posted by Threeway Handshake at 7:48 AM on April 20, 2010
Looks like a good way to find a flaky roommate/intolerable living situation.
"I thought you were cool bro, but now you're all like 'pay your half of the rent!' and it's really harshing my mellow maaan." [drops empty cup on the floor, kicks it into the corner of the room]
posted by fuq at 7:49 AM on April 20, 2010 [5 favorites]
"I thought you were cool bro, but now you're all like 'pay your half of the rent!' and it's really harshing my mellow maaan." [drops empty cup on the floor, kicks it into the corner of the room]
posted by fuq at 7:49 AM on April 20, 2010 [5 favorites]
What happens if they get a 421st roommate?
Presumably that roommate is made into a bong.
posted by padraigin at 8:03 AM on April 20, 2010 [2 favorites]
Presumably that roommate is made into a bong.
posted by padraigin at 8:03 AM on April 20, 2010 [2 favorites]
Oh sure, let's all make fun of the potheads, maaaan. I mean, it's not like this special needs group has, like, special needs of their own. This is all so played out, like, I don't know, some kind of jam band guitar solo or another endless masturbation "Drums - Space" fucking bootleg tape. I mean, if this was some kind of site for people who, I don't know man, had like some kind of dog or something that needed, like special dog food or some kind of special dog drink that was like really hard to get. Yeah, that's exactly it, a special dog drink that special dogs need, like those blind seeing dogs or those cop dogs. Except that I really don't want to help cop dogs because their like dog narcs, ya know? But I guess it's not really their fault because their trained by The Man and their only dogs, ya know? I mean, dogs do what they're told to do, and just because their manipulated by the system to smell drugs and bombs and shit. You know how they get the dogs to sniff out the drugs? They get them addicted to the shit, man. How fucking mean is that? I mean, that's totally why the dogs are always barking at pot and heroin and coke and shit, it's because they want their fix. The fucking cops get them hooked on the shit so their constantly jonesing, so when they smell some really good kind, they're all like "woah, kind bud, yo!" and start barking their asses off. So if we could make some kind of special dog water that, like, helps them somehow, I think that would be really cool.
posted by slogger at 8:07 AM on April 20, 2010 [17 favorites]
posted by slogger at 8:07 AM on April 20, 2010 [17 favorites]
And like what's with all this April 20th stuff? Isn't that, like, Hitler's birthday?
posted by slogger at 8:10 AM on April 20, 2010
posted by slogger at 8:10 AM on April 20, 2010
i feel like this site probably came out of highdeas.com
posted by Jon_Evil at 8:10 AM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Jon_Evil at 8:10 AM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
Jon_Evil, that may be the funniest website i've seen all week.
posted by The Esteemed Doctor Bunsen Honeydew at 8:19 AM on April 20, 2010
posted by The Esteemed Doctor Bunsen Honeydew at 8:19 AM on April 20, 2010
I was really hoping this post was about Breaking Bad.
I'm bummed that Danny Trejo's whole part in that episode was an explanation of how he wound up dead. Like we couldn't figure that out? He talked to the DEA!
Oh man I love that damn show.
posted by snapped at 8:23 AM on April 20, 2010
I'm bummed that Danny Trejo's whole part in that episode was an explanation of how he wound up dead. Like we couldn't figure that out? He talked to the DEA!
Oh man I love that damn show.
posted by snapped at 8:23 AM on April 20, 2010
It is maybe just me but it seems like newspapers, magazines, and teevee news care a hell of a lot more about 4/20 than any actual potheads I have ever known.
posted by shakespeherian at 8:47 AM on April 20, 2010 [5 favorites]
posted by shakespeherian at 8:47 AM on April 20, 2010 [5 favorites]
I'm glad that it doesn't seem to be a priority in our fair city, but I'm still astounded at the fact that the police don't just respond to every 420 ad on Craigslist with a "Dude, yeah!" and show up with a Phish t-shirt and handcuffs.
In most places admitting you smoke pot is not really enough evidence to make an arrest, unless the DA has a hard on for the War on Drugs and has nothing better to do. In many places the cops really do not care as long as you're not a teenager or dealing or are causing a nuisance, or being really obvious. This doesn't apply everywhere, but if you're advertising for 420 roommates you probably don't live in, say, Winnemucca, NV, and having visited there, if you do I don't recommend it.
posted by krinklyfig at 9:03 AM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
In most places admitting you smoke pot is not really enough evidence to make an arrest, unless the DA has a hard on for the War on Drugs and has nothing better to do. In many places the cops really do not care as long as you're not a teenager or dealing or are causing a nuisance, or being really obvious. This doesn't apply everywhere, but if you're advertising for 420 roommates you probably don't live in, say, Winnemucca, NV, and having visited there, if you do I don't recommend it.
posted by krinklyfig at 9:03 AM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
Looks like a good way to find a flaky roommate/intolerable living situation.
Anyone past a certain age is probably dealing with their life just fine. The worst roommate I had was totally straight laced and spent most of his time at the gym. But I'm not sure I'd really want to make it my first consideration in picking a roommate, and this site may attract people whose priorities are different, so my guess is they're likely to be on the young side.
posted by krinklyfig at 9:09 AM on April 20, 2010 [2 favorites]
Anyone past a certain age is probably dealing with their life just fine. The worst roommate I had was totally straight laced and spent most of his time at the gym. But I'm not sure I'd really want to make it my first consideration in picking a roommate, and this site may attract people whose priorities are different, so my guess is they're likely to be on the young side.
posted by krinklyfig at 9:09 AM on April 20, 2010 [2 favorites]
From one of the ads (emphasis mine):
Ideal Roommate Situation: Furnished room private bath,dish network,internet,tanning bed,above ground pool,room freshly painted .150.00 a week.Everything included.Home Sweet Home. No drugs, no smokers.
what
posted by 1f2frfbf at 9:12 AM on April 20, 2010
Ideal Roommate Situation: Furnished room private bath,dish network,internet,tanning bed,above ground pool,room freshly painted .150.00 a week.Everything included.Home Sweet Home. No drugs, no smokers.
what
posted by 1f2frfbf at 9:12 AM on April 20, 2010
I found that "420-friendly" in a Craigslist ad means different things in different parts of the country.
In NYC, it means, "hey, I smoke pot, and I'm probably someone you want to hang out with."
In SF, it means, "hey, I grow pot or sell pot and you should probably be cool with that if you want to live here." But I think it's just kind of assumed that everyone gets high, so there's no real need to say so unless they're really hardcore about it.
posted by coelacanth! at 9:19 AM on April 20, 2010
In NYC, it means, "hey, I smoke pot, and I'm probably someone you want to hang out with."
In SF, it means, "hey, I grow pot or sell pot and you should probably be cool with that if you want to live here." But I think it's just kind of assumed that everyone gets high, so there's no real need to say so unless they're really hardcore about it.
posted by coelacanth! at 9:19 AM on April 20, 2010
Man, I really hate "stoner culture". The whole idea of your life revolving around your preferred intoxicant seems so idiotic. (Admittedly it's better than your life revolving around your chosen brand of clothing or computers or car or whatever.)
I smoke weed. But when I get baked I don't sit my ass in front of whatever crap's on the TV and graze on terrible snack foods. I don't have long rambling conversations that are full of what seems like profound insights at the time.
A lot of the time, I draw. I can produce a lot of stuff this way. Some of it's crap but there are some real gems in there as well, worth refining either sober or while stoned at a later date.
Most of the plot of the comic book my boyfriend and I are working on came about while sitting on a friend's couch, stoned out of our minds. We threw crazy ideas back and forth, I filled up about a third of a new sketchbook recording them. The next day, we looked at it sober, and started picking out the bits that worked from the bits that didn't, and refined it while sober.
I much prefer to be the Carl Sagan kind of stoner than the covers-everything-in-Bob-Marley-and-pot-leaves kind. It's not a way of life. It's just a chemical that does some pretty interesting things to your brain - it's pretty awesome for making unexpected connections.
also i am vaguely grumpy because our stash is empty and it's National Get High Day. is this the chemical equivalant of being single on Valentine's?
posted by egypturnash at 9:21 AM on April 20, 2010 [10 favorites]
I smoke weed. But when I get baked I don't sit my ass in front of whatever crap's on the TV and graze on terrible snack foods. I don't have long rambling conversations that are full of what seems like profound insights at the time.
A lot of the time, I draw. I can produce a lot of stuff this way. Some of it's crap but there are some real gems in there as well, worth refining either sober or while stoned at a later date.
Most of the plot of the comic book my boyfriend and I are working on came about while sitting on a friend's couch, stoned out of our minds. We threw crazy ideas back and forth, I filled up about a third of a new sketchbook recording them. The next day, we looked at it sober, and started picking out the bits that worked from the bits that didn't, and refined it while sober.
I much prefer to be the Carl Sagan kind of stoner than the covers-everything-in-Bob-Marley-and-pot-leaves kind. It's not a way of life. It's just a chemical that does some pretty interesting things to your brain - it's pretty awesome for making unexpected connections.
also i am vaguely grumpy because our stash is empty and it's National Get High Day. is this the chemical equivalant of being single on Valentine's?
posted by egypturnash at 9:21 AM on April 20, 2010 [10 favorites]
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
posted by gman at 10:04 AM on April 20, 2010 [6 favorites]
posted by gman at 10:04 AM on April 20, 2010 [6 favorites]
It's just a chemical that does some pretty interesting things to your brain - it's pretty awesome for making unexpected connections.
I have ADD, and the reason I always was drawn to it is that it helps slow my racing thoughts down and mitigates over-stimulation. It also helps with related social anxiety. It's not the same for everyone, and for some of us "vegging out" is a healthy break from a day of our brains spinning like tops. I like it for creative purposes, but that's not it's main utility to me.
posted by krinklyfig at 10:13 AM on April 20, 2010 [4 favorites]
I have ADD, and the reason I always was drawn to it is that it helps slow my racing thoughts down and mitigates over-stimulation. It also helps with related social anxiety. It's not the same for everyone, and for some of us "vegging out" is a healthy break from a day of our brains spinning like tops. I like it for creative purposes, but that's not it's main utility to me.
posted by krinklyfig at 10:13 AM on April 20, 2010 [4 favorites]
They should have had this as the background music.
posted by stormpooper at 10:16 AM on April 20, 2010
posted by stormpooper at 10:16 AM on April 20, 2010
I don't have long rambling conversations that are full of what seems like profound insights at the time.
As someone who doesn't smoke weed but is around people who do at parties, trust me, you totally, totally do have long, rambling conversations that seem profound to you.
posted by stormpooper at 10:18 AM on April 20, 2010 [7 favorites]
As someone who doesn't smoke weed but is around people who do at parties, trust me, you totally, totally do have long, rambling conversations that seem profound to you.
posted by stormpooper at 10:18 AM on April 20, 2010 [7 favorites]
No, I don't - because I shut up and draw instead. I'm that chick who slips out to the periphery of things and makes the occasional comment but mostly has her nose in her sketchbook drawing weird things@
posted by egypturnash at 10:21 AM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by egypturnash at 10:21 AM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
Egypturnash--I was kidding. :)
I tried it long ago and nothing happened. Then I smoked wayyyyyyyy too much at the wrong party (as in "hey, who let that kid in here?") and wound up with the giggles that wouldn't stop. Then the kid came back in and the grandma came in and I was embarassed as hell (through giggles) and couldn't come down for a day. Bad. Just bad.
Halfway through my lips, face got numb, I wound up nauseous, and a horrible headache. Not quite the effect everyone was telling me about.
That was 2000. Haven't tried it since. Guess three times was a charm for me.
posted by stormpooper at 10:27 AM on April 20, 2010
I tried it long ago and nothing happened. Then I smoked wayyyyyyyy too much at the wrong party (as in "hey, who let that kid in here?") and wound up with the giggles that wouldn't stop. Then the kid came back in and the grandma came in and I was embarassed as hell (through giggles) and couldn't come down for a day. Bad. Just bad.
Halfway through my lips, face got numb, I wound up nauseous, and a horrible headache. Not quite the effect everyone was telling me about.
That was 2000. Haven't tried it since. Guess three times was a charm for me.
posted by stormpooper at 10:27 AM on April 20, 2010
It's almost insidious the way the entire culture surrounding Marijuana is so childish. The pun heavy names of various strains. The little pipes and bongs that look like they were made by particularly talented third graders no consistency in design, no restraint in the use of color. Everything a rainbow. If marijuana paraphenalia was a webpage it would be a geocities page from 1998.
posted by I Foody at 10:32 AM on April 20, 2010 [4 favorites]
posted by I Foody at 10:32 AM on April 20, 2010 [4 favorites]
It's almost insidious the way the entire culture surrounding Marijuana is so childish.
I'd bet money that pot culture is something a minority of pot smokers are involved in. Same as beer snobbery and beer drinkers, or gamer culture and players of video games.
posted by Pope Guilty at 10:49 AM on April 20, 2010 [6 favorites]
I'd bet money that pot culture is something a minority of pot smokers are involved in. Same as beer snobbery and beer drinkers, or gamer culture and players of video games.
posted by Pope Guilty at 10:49 AM on April 20, 2010 [6 favorites]
It's almost insidious the way the entire culture surrounding Marijuana is so childish.
The same can be said for Internet culture, but we use the darn thing all the time!
posted by geoff. at 11:18 AM on April 20, 2010
The same can be said for Internet culture, but we use the darn thing all the time!
posted by geoff. at 11:18 AM on April 20, 2010
Of the scores of smokers I know, only one is like these stereotypes I see repeated ad nauseam (just as childish as "stoner culture") here in the blue. All of these, including the "burner", were productive and active people. Many were like me, smoking for medical reasons - I can be out of pain enough to be productive. It beats being bed-ridden.
Even "stoner culture" isn't what you see from the outside and, yes, outsiders make a much bigger deal about 420 than pot smokers. However, advertisers (legal product or no) will take advantage of the noise they notice and it bounces back and forth from there.
Just like any roommate service, you wouldn't accept the first taker based upon the ad or profile but screen people for compatibility in MORE than one area.
All that said, I will still laugh at stoner movies.
posted by _paegan_ at 12:18 PM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
Even "stoner culture" isn't what you see from the outside and, yes, outsiders make a much bigger deal about 420 than pot smokers. However, advertisers (legal product or no) will take advantage of the noise they notice and it bounces back and forth from there.
Just like any roommate service, you wouldn't accept the first taker based upon the ad or profile but screen people for compatibility in MORE than one area.
All that said, I will still laugh at stoner movies.
posted by _paegan_ at 12:18 PM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
420 Divisors:
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 10 | 12 | 14 | 15 | 20 | 21 | 28 | 30 | 35 | 42 | 60 | 70 | 84 | 105 | 140 | 210 | 420
posted by Twang at 12:32 PM on April 20, 2010
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 10 | 12 | 14 | 15 | 20 | 21 | 28 | 30 | 35 | 42 | 60 | 70 | 84 | 105 | 140 | 210 | 420
posted by Twang at 12:32 PM on April 20, 2010
The "everyone else is doing it wrong and should stop sitting on the couch and talking and staring at colors because that's childish and marijuana is serious!" head-trip strikes me as much more of a bad joke than "stoner culture".
Marijuana is special partly because it is childish, in the Nietzschean sense -- "innocence is the child, and forgetfulness, a new beginning, a game." The very thing that makes weed such a powerful trigger for the "game of creating" also makes people laugh and share their half-baked (heh) ideas out loud and stare at a movie for a couple hours... and why not?
Can't we have just one thing that's beyond the Puritan hatred for anything that isn't "useful" and "adult"?
posted by vorfeed at 1:08 PM on April 20, 2010 [12 favorites]
Marijuana is special partly because it is childish, in the Nietzschean sense -- "innocence is the child, and forgetfulness, a new beginning, a game." The very thing that makes weed such a powerful trigger for the "game of creating" also makes people laugh and share their half-baked (heh) ideas out loud and stare at a movie for a couple hours... and why not?
Can't we have just one thing that's beyond the Puritan hatred for anything that isn't "useful" and "adult"?
posted by vorfeed at 1:08 PM on April 20, 2010 [12 favorites]
1f2frfbf — No drugs, no smokers. Translation: no meth/coke/other substances that come in powders or have to be referred to by their initials; no tobacco smoking.
As one of the creators of Weeds said in some of the behind-the-scenes material on the DVD, "Tobacco smoke smells... what's the word? Oh, yeah — terrible!" Not an uncommon attitude among weed smokers. Here in the SF Bay Area, smoking weed seems more socially acceptable than smoking tobacco — at least, people don't ostentatiously move away and give the smoker nasty looks for lighting up a joint the same way they do for lighting up a cigarette.
Hell, here in Oakland if you light up a joint on the sidewalk you're likely to get someone coming up to you with a broad, meaningful smile, saying "Smells niiiiiiice, man..."
posted by Lexica at 2:22 PM on April 20, 2010
As one of the creators of Weeds said in some of the behind-the-scenes material on the DVD, "Tobacco smoke smells... what's the word? Oh, yeah — terrible!" Not an uncommon attitude among weed smokers. Here in the SF Bay Area, smoking weed seems more socially acceptable than smoking tobacco — at least, people don't ostentatiously move away and give the smoker nasty looks for lighting up a joint the same way they do for lighting up a cigarette.
Hell, here in Oakland if you light up a joint on the sidewalk you're likely to get someone coming up to you with a broad, meaningful smile, saying "Smells niiiiiiice, man..."
posted by Lexica at 2:22 PM on April 20, 2010
wait, what the hell is wrong with puns?
posted by saul wright at 2:55 PM on April 20, 2010
posted by saul wright at 2:55 PM on April 20, 2010
I'm glad that it doesn't seem to be a priority in our fair city, but I'm still astounded at the fact that the police don't just respond to every 420 ad on Craigslist with a "Dude, yeah!" and show up with a Phish t-shirt and handcuffs.
Yeah, but that'd take them an awful lot of time, right? In any city that's large or college-y enough to have a Craigslist, the cops aren't likely to really give a shit about pot. The cops here generally won't even bother with the paperwork for someone with a few joints or whatever, unless they decide to fuck with you. I think they're realistic about it in that they realize that it's not actually causing a hell of a lot of problems and they have bigger things to deal with, like all the mayhem caused by perfectly-legal alcohol, just to throw out an example.
posted by DecemberBoy at 3:37 PM on April 20, 2010
Yeah, but that'd take them an awful lot of time, right? In any city that's large or college-y enough to have a Craigslist, the cops aren't likely to really give a shit about pot. The cops here generally won't even bother with the paperwork for someone with a few joints or whatever, unless they decide to fuck with you. I think they're realistic about it in that they realize that it's not actually causing a hell of a lot of problems and they have bigger things to deal with, like all the mayhem caused by perfectly-legal alcohol, just to throw out an example.
posted by DecemberBoy at 3:37 PM on April 20, 2010
As someone who has had a cop ask them for a hit I can say it's not a high priority for most cities.
posted by The Whelk at 4:19 PM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by The Whelk at 4:19 PM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
I smoke weed. But when I get baked I don't sit my ass in front of whatever crap's on the TV and graze on terrible snack foods. I don't have long rambling conversations that are full of what seems like profound insights at the time.
Dude. Ur doin' it wrong.
Wut?
posted by Splunge at 4:29 PM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
Dude. Ur doin' it wrong.
Wut?
posted by Splunge at 4:29 PM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
Dude. Ur doin' it wrong.
Indeed, isn't this why we have CIV IV?
posted by The Whelk at 4:31 PM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
Indeed, isn't this why we have CIV IV?
posted by The Whelk at 4:31 PM on April 20, 2010 [1 favorite]
As someone who has had a cop ask them for a hit I can say it's not a high priority for most cities.
Were you on your way to the Misty Mountain Hop?
posted by stormpooper at 6:39 PM on April 20, 2010
Were you on your way to the Misty Mountain Hop?
posted by stormpooper at 6:39 PM on April 20, 2010
The best thing about weed is that it makes playing Dungeons and Dragons as an adult completely feasible.
posted by nicolas léonard sadi carnot at 7:00 PM on April 20, 2010
posted by nicolas léonard sadi carnot at 7:00 PM on April 20, 2010
It's almost insidious the way the entire culture surrounding Marijuana is so childish. The pun heavy names of various strains. The little pipes and bongs that look like they were made by particularly talented third graders no consistency in design, no restraint in the use of color. Everything a rainbow. If marijuana paraphenalia was a webpage it would be a geocities page from 1998.
I'm not going to defend the stereotype of stoner culture in general, because yeah it's pretty juvenile (though sometimes that's not a bad thing), but you might not be exposed to some of the glass work that's out there. A lot of people blow glass for pipes (way too many actually, because every other young male bohemian at some time seems to stumble on the idea of making a living from it), so if you're in the right area you can find people selling quality pipes for cheap. If it matters they are usually a tasteful blend of colors with a wide variety available, like one I'm looking at right now that's shades of blue and gray. The head shops tend to have the lamest and the most expensive stuff marked up way too high, so you're best off finding someone with a roving display of their own pipes for sale at a party or concert.
posted by krinklyfig at 11:35 PM on April 20, 2010
I'm not going to defend the stereotype of stoner culture in general, because yeah it's pretty juvenile (though sometimes that's not a bad thing), but you might not be exposed to some of the glass work that's out there. A lot of people blow glass for pipes (way too many actually, because every other young male bohemian at some time seems to stumble on the idea of making a living from it), so if you're in the right area you can find people selling quality pipes for cheap. If it matters they are usually a tasteful blend of colors with a wide variety available, like one I'm looking at right now that's shades of blue and gray. The head shops tend to have the lamest and the most expensive stuff marked up way too high, so you're best off finding someone with a roving display of their own pipes for sale at a party or concert.
posted by krinklyfig at 11:35 PM on April 20, 2010
I've seen some lovely hand-blown hookahs that wouldn't be out of place in the middle of a coffee table.
posted by The Whelk at 5:52 AM on April 21, 2010
posted by The Whelk at 5:52 AM on April 21, 2010
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