More sweary than South Park
April 30, 2010 2:04 AM Subscribe
Tim Minchin is not keen on the Pope. Quite rude. No, actually very rude. And yes, it's a single link to a YouTube video. NSFW.
How does the Pope feel about Tim Minchin?
With his hands.
posted by vbfg at 2:24 AM on April 30, 2010 [53 favorites]
With his hands.
posted by vbfg at 2:24 AM on April 30, 2010 [53 favorites]
Kinda catchy!
posted by From Bklyn at 2:32 AM on April 30, 2010
posted by From Bklyn at 2:32 AM on April 30, 2010
♥
Also, I've just tweeted at Tim Minchin. In all caps. I felt it was necessary.
posted by crataegus at 2:33 AM on April 30, 2010
Also, I've just tweeted at Tim Minchin. In all caps. I felt it was necessary.
posted by crataegus at 2:33 AM on April 30, 2010
Fewer than 30,000 views right now. I can't help but think this might be the ground floor of something big.
posted by The Potate at 2:34 AM on April 30, 2010
posted by The Potate at 2:34 AM on April 30, 2010
How does the Pope feel about Tim Minchin?
With his hands.
LOLMSFT
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:39 AM on April 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
With his hands.
LOLMSFT
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:39 AM on April 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
Really, if we're gonna have a discussion on Tim Minchin, I think you REALLY need to watch If You Open Your Mind Too Much, Your Brain Will Fall Out (take my wife).
He's got quite a few other videos/songs that are along the same line but that one just makes me smile so hard I didn't want it to get bogged down with other links.
posted by revmitcz at 2:47 AM on April 30, 2010 [10 favorites]
He's got quite a few other videos/songs that are along the same line but that one just makes me smile so hard I didn't want it to get bogged down with other links.
posted by revmitcz at 2:47 AM on April 30, 2010 [10 favorites]
My favourite Tim Minchin... If I didn't have you, Taboo, Storm, and his performance on the Jonathan Ross show.
posted by handee at 2:58 AM on April 30, 2010 [6 favorites]
posted by handee at 2:58 AM on April 30, 2010 [6 favorites]
More entertaining than the Ninety Five Theses.
posted by Samuel Farrow at 3:00 AM on April 30, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by Samuel Farrow at 3:00 AM on April 30, 2010 [2 favorites]
I saw that last night on Pharyngula, and thought the lyrics weren't very, um, clever.. I prefer "The Vatican Rag".
Genuflect!
Genuflect!
Genuflect!
posted by acrasis at 3:55 AM on April 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
Genuflect!
Genuflect!
Genuflect!
posted by acrasis at 3:55 AM on April 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
I think that sums up my opinion of the whole mess quite nicely. Thank you.
posted by sodium lights the horizon at 4:10 AM on April 30, 2010
posted by sodium lights the horizon at 4:10 AM on April 30, 2010
I like his peace anthem for Palestine, aimed at bringing Jews and Muslims together:
"We don't eat pigs,
You don't eat pigs.
It seems it's been that way for ever.
So if you don't eat pigs,
And we don't eat pigs,
Why not... not eat pigs together?"
I saw him live last year. He's very talented and highly amusing, which is a very entertaining combination.
posted by The Ultimate Olympian at 4:12 AM on April 30, 2010
"We don't eat pigs,
You don't eat pigs.
It seems it's been that way for ever.
So if you don't eat pigs,
And we don't eat pigs,
Why not... not eat pigs together?"
I saw him live last year. He's very talented and highly amusing, which is a very entertaining combination.
posted by The Ultimate Olympian at 4:12 AM on April 30, 2010
I'd also like to point out that the OP's wording of "Quite rude. No, actually, very rude" is ironic given that Minchin's point (which I agree with overwhemingly) is, in his own words :
And if you dont like the swearing that this motherfucker forced from me
And reckon it shows moral or intellectual paucity
Then fuck you motherfucker, this is language one employs
When one is fucking cross about fuckers fucking boys
So, is it genuinely "rude" to suggest that someone be taken to task, called out, and made to seem a lesser-person for the atrocities he commits by denying and actively covering up and concealing cases of childhood rape?
I don't think the word "rude" has a place here, and sounds a little too apologetic for the policies of .. well, a motherfuckin' child rapist enabler.
posted by revmitcz at 4:30 AM on April 30, 2010 [2 favorites]
And if you dont like the swearing that this motherfucker forced from me
And reckon it shows moral or intellectual paucity
Then fuck you motherfucker, this is language one employs
When one is fucking cross about fuckers fucking boys
So, is it genuinely "rude" to suggest that someone be taken to task, called out, and made to seem a lesser-person for the atrocities he commits by denying and actively covering up and concealing cases of childhood rape?
I don't think the word "rude" has a place here, and sounds a little too apologetic for the policies of .. well, a motherfuckin' child rapist enabler.
posted by revmitcz at 4:30 AM on April 30, 2010 [2 favorites]
It's not nearly as good as "Unclefucker," to which it clearly owes a large debt.
posted by Mayor Curley at 4:31 AM on April 30, 2010 [3 favorites]
posted by Mayor Curley at 4:31 AM on April 30, 2010 [3 favorites]
If you're a Tim Minchin fan, this documentary "Rock and Roll Nerd: The Tim Minchin Documentary" is unmissable. He happened to have some mates following him around with cameras for a film project just as his career began to seriously take off. It's a fascinating fly-on-the-wall study of the nature of showbusiness, and how people react when they or someone close to them suddenly becomes very successful.
posted by Optamystic at 4:38 AM on April 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Optamystic at 4:38 AM on April 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
Shut your fucking face, Mayor Curley.
posted by Optamystic at 4:39 AM on April 30, 2010
posted by Optamystic at 4:39 AM on April 30, 2010
Then fuck you motherfucker, this is language one employs
When one is fucking cross about fuckers fucking boys
I think this is hugely disingenuous. Apart from, as Mayor Curley says, its shamelessly cribbing from 'Shut Your Fucking Face, Unclefucker', he's not using the language because it's the only way to express outrage - but because it's titilating and he wants to get a laugh out of shock value. It's not that I disagree with the sentiment - I don't - it's just that trying to present it as anything other than a rather unimaginative exercise in lowest common denominator topical comedy isn't very honest.
I really want to like Tim Minchin - he does lots of stuff I feel I should like - but I just think that although he's a great performer and a talented musician, he's a bit of a sub-par writer.
posted by RokkitNite at 4:55 AM on April 30, 2010 [2 favorites]
When one is fucking cross about fuckers fucking boys
I think this is hugely disingenuous. Apart from, as Mayor Curley says, its shamelessly cribbing from 'Shut Your Fucking Face, Unclefucker', he's not using the language because it's the only way to express outrage - but because it's titilating and he wants to get a laugh out of shock value. It's not that I disagree with the sentiment - I don't - it's just that trying to present it as anything other than a rather unimaginative exercise in lowest common denominator topical comedy isn't very honest.
I really want to like Tim Minchin - he does lots of stuff I feel I should like - but I just think that although he's a great performer and a talented musician, he's a bit of a sub-par writer.
posted by RokkitNite at 4:55 AM on April 30, 2010 [2 favorites]
Fancy a plate of beans revmitcz? I was using the word 'rude' to explain that it contains some 'rude' words. In fact, it contains a lot of 'rude' words. Sheesh.
posted by MrMustard at 4:59 AM on April 30, 2010
posted by MrMustard at 4:59 AM on April 30, 2010
Hahaha I am going to be singing this all week, I have a soft spot for cursey novelty songs. The last one I got embedded into my skull was Fuck You Very Much The FCC :)
posted by By The Grace of God at 5:47 AM on April 30, 2010
posted by By The Grace of God at 5:47 AM on April 30, 2010
link fail. Once more with feeling!
posted by By The Grace of God at 5:48 AM on April 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by By The Grace of God at 5:48 AM on April 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
"Unclefucker," to which it clearly owes a large debt.
True, what what piece of popular culture produced anytime in the last decade isn't deeply indebted to "Unclefucker"?
posted by Horace Rumpole at 5:56 AM on April 30, 2010 [4 favorites]
True, what what piece of popular culture produced anytime in the last decade isn't deeply indebted to "Unclefucker"?
posted by Horace Rumpole at 5:56 AM on April 30, 2010 [4 favorites]
Fancy a plate of beans revmitcz? I was using the word 'rude' to explain that it contains some 'rude' words. In fact, it contains a lot of 'rude' words. Sheesh.
My apologies. I took "rude" to mean "not polite; not respecting the person/thing in question". I'm not here to argue the merits of vulgarity, so we'll chalk this up to semantics :)
posted by revmitcz at 6:03 AM on April 30, 2010
My apologies. I took "rude" to mean "not polite; not respecting the person/thing in question". I'm not here to argue the merits of vulgarity, so we'll chalk this up to semantics :)
posted by revmitcz at 6:03 AM on April 30, 2010
Big Tim Minchin fan here. If I Didn't Have You, and Rock'N Roll Nerd both classics. (the "So Fuck'n Rock" multi-clip is great, too).
posted by Durn Bronzefist at 6:32 AM on April 30, 2010
posted by Durn Bronzefist at 6:32 AM on April 30, 2010
Well, I'm shocked.
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 6:55 AM on April 30, 2010
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 6:55 AM on April 30, 2010
Never heard of Tim Minchin before this morning - he's brilliant! If I Didn't Have You is fantastic! Best of the Web indeed.
posted by Michael Roberts at 7:51 AM on April 30, 2010
posted by Michael Roberts at 7:51 AM on April 30, 2010
"if you dont like the swearing that this motherfucker forced from me"
Lame, and needlessly passive. If you want to curse, then be man enough to take agency for it.
Also, cursing to show displeasure is lazy and very often simply obscures a reasonable position with shock. Why let the form of your complaint get in the way of the substance?
posted by oddman at 8:12 AM on April 30, 2010
Lame, and needlessly passive. If you want to curse, then be man enough to take agency for it.
Also, cursing to show displeasure is lazy and very often simply obscures a reasonable position with shock. Why let the form of your complaint get in the way of the substance?
posted by oddman at 8:12 AM on April 30, 2010
We seem to be running at least one LOLPOPE thread every ten days now. Unlike your Lady Gagas, though, these just seem to let out MeFi's collective id.
posted by l33tpolicywonk at 8:48 AM on April 30, 2010
posted by l33tpolicywonk at 8:48 AM on April 30, 2010
Hmm. I'm definitely sympathetic to the message, and I like the style of the cartoon a lot. But to me it falls flat on its insistence that listeners will be shocked by it. We all know about the word "fuck," guy. It's okay.
posted by roll truck roll at 9:07 AM on April 30, 2010
posted by roll truck roll at 9:07 AM on April 30, 2010
So if you don't eat pigs, And we don't eat pigs, Why not... not eat pigs together?"
My hobby: Switching the Kosher and Halal stickers in the grocery store so all the Jews and Muslims are eating pork-free products which contain no pork for the wrong reason.
posted by straight at 9:40 AM on April 30, 2010 [7 favorites]
My hobby: Switching the Kosher and Halal stickers in the grocery store so all the Jews and Muslims are eating pork-free products which contain no pork for the wrong reason.
posted by straight at 9:40 AM on April 30, 2010 [7 favorites]
To all you moaning about the gratuitous cursing, I humbly offer that it's a motif. It expresses outrage in a way that says: angry X 10^23.
If you don't get it, then fuck you*.
*that's a joke, based on repetition of motif. I use it not to express anger, but to implement a commonly used tactic of humor, which is motif. The meaning of the word is almost completely irrelevant to the use of motif, which is more closely related to delivery and timing than to the actual meaning. This is why you shouldn't get upset by stand up comics. The routine has little to do with meaning, and everything to do with the craft of humor, the delivery, the timing. It's like how a magician uses sleight of hand. The amount of practice, effort, and skill that goes into a well delivered line is similar to how a magician practices a trick. Appreciate it for the artistry, if not the message.
posted by Xoebe at 10:02 AM on April 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
If you don't get it, then fuck you*.
*that's a joke, based on repetition of motif. I use it not to express anger, but to implement a commonly used tactic of humor, which is motif. The meaning of the word is almost completely irrelevant to the use of motif, which is more closely related to delivery and timing than to the actual meaning. This is why you shouldn't get upset by stand up comics. The routine has little to do with meaning, and everything to do with the craft of humor, the delivery, the timing. It's like how a magician uses sleight of hand. The amount of practice, effort, and skill that goes into a well delivered line is similar to how a magician practices a trick. Appreciate it for the artistry, if not the message.
posted by Xoebe at 10:02 AM on April 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
I'm back 8 hours later just to say I'm pleased as can be that my set-up got the right punchline. Thank you, vfbg!
posted by chavenet at 10:31 AM on April 30, 2010
posted by chavenet at 10:31 AM on April 30, 2010
Hey, that Unclefucker song is great! It's more Broadway, though, isn't it? SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS sort of thing. The Popefucker song is more "comedy" - oompah style. And gratuitous swearing has been around a fairly long time: Derek and Clive spring to mind.
posted by alasdair at 11:07 AM on April 30, 2010
posted by alasdair at 11:07 AM on April 30, 2010
Hmm. I finally got to see this (post-work), and I have to say, I hope there's a special place in hell reserved for people who make cartoons to audio acts (which I assume this is). It misses Tim's stage presence. That said, not my favourite bit of his by a longshot. Ok.
posted by Durn Bronzefist at 5:02 PM on April 30, 2010
posted by Durn Bronzefist at 5:02 PM on April 30, 2010
Yeah, the animation is pretty basic, although I dunno what you could possibly show instead of Minchin or the Pope that wouldn't be too offensive to even be watched.
I like how comedians and singer-songwriters these days are making up little topical songs and posting them online. It gives a nice little flow of new stuff instead of waiting for an album or new live show. Even though they're never as good as the 'proper' work, I like seeing them pop up.
posted by harriet vane at 10:35 PM on April 30, 2010
I like how comedians and singer-songwriters these days are making up little topical songs and posting them online. It gives a nice little flow of new stuff instead of waiting for an album or new live show. Even though they're never as good as the 'proper' work, I like seeing them pop up.
posted by harriet vane at 10:35 PM on April 30, 2010
Derivative of the South Park song? Sure, I'll buy that. Definitely reminds me of it.
"if you dont like the swearing that this motherfucker forced from me"
Lame, and needlessly passive. If you want to curse, then be man enough to take agency for it.
Also, cursing to show displeasure is lazy and very often simply obscures a reasonable position with shock. Why let the form of your complaint get in the way of the substance?
This, however, seems way off the mark. Apart from the fact that you're downplaying what's probably the single greatest (and only) rhyme for "intellectual paucity" ever to appear in a song lyric, the gist of the tune seems to be:
(a) a stream of obscenities is actually a pretty appropriate reaction to the kind of recent revelations that...well...aren't too much of of a revelation to those of us in Boston;
(b) if you still find this kind of language objectionable on its own account, well, fine, but
(c) if you object to this kind of language more than you do to the fact that the Catholic Church actively protected priests who abused children (in this case it really is the coverup, not the crime), well, then, fuck you, motherfucker.
Seriously. Fuck you and the Pope you rode in on.
posted by uosuaq at 10:58 PM on April 30, 2010 [3 favorites]
"if you dont like the swearing that this motherfucker forced from me"
Lame, and needlessly passive. If you want to curse, then be man enough to take agency for it.
Also, cursing to show displeasure is lazy and very often simply obscures a reasonable position with shock. Why let the form of your complaint get in the way of the substance?
This, however, seems way off the mark. Apart from the fact that you're downplaying what's probably the single greatest (and only) rhyme for "intellectual paucity" ever to appear in a song lyric, the gist of the tune seems to be:
(a) a stream of obscenities is actually a pretty appropriate reaction to the kind of recent revelations that...well...aren't too much of of a revelation to those of us in Boston;
(b) if you still find this kind of language objectionable on its own account, well, fine, but
(c) if you object to this kind of language more than you do to the fact that the Catholic Church actively protected priests who abused children (in this case it really is the coverup, not the crime), well, then, fuck you, motherfucker.
Seriously. Fuck you and the Pope you rode in on.
posted by uosuaq at 10:58 PM on April 30, 2010 [3 favorites]
Perfect. WIN. Love it and can't stop listening to it.
and people are poo-pooing the swearing? Did you not listen to the song? It's the whole point. I'm a little disappointed Metafilter.
(and yes there is a debt to UncleFucker, but that was over 10 years ago and this takes it to a different level - it has a point)
posted by AzzaMcKazza at 1:31 AM on May 1, 2010 [1 favorite]
and people are poo-pooing the swearing? Did you not listen to the song? It's the whole point. I'm a little disappointed Metafilter.
(and yes there is a debt to UncleFucker, but that was over 10 years ago and this takes it to a different level - it has a point)
posted by AzzaMcKazza at 1:31 AM on May 1, 2010 [1 favorite]
Here are some shots of Tim backstage during his recent Australian tour.
posted by Artaud at 12:34 AM on May 2, 2010
posted by Artaud at 12:34 AM on May 2, 2010
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