Penny Arcade on Drugs
May 1, 2010 1:49 AM   Subscribe

Gabe and Tycho from Penny Arcade discuss the impact of drugs (both prescribed and recreational) on their lives.
posted by PenDevil (64 comments total) 12 users marked this as a favorite
 
Brave, brave men.
posted by mek at 2:03 AM on May 1, 2010 [2 favorites]


Personally, no effect wtahosveer.
posted by hypersloth at 2:13 AM on May 1, 2010 [3 favorites]


Is there a transcript available anywhere?
posted by onya at 2:21 AM on May 1, 2010 [1 favorite]


Well, you know. You try being a professional comic artist with a focus on reviewing video games and we'll see if you keep your girlish figure...
posted by kaibutsu at 2:48 AM on May 1, 2010 [1 favorite]


Well, I'd say the drugs are doing *something*, looking at the latest strip...
posted by Joe Chip at 2:53 AM on May 1, 2010


I was going to fpp this myself and couldn't figure out the angle on it.

It should probably be noted that they are in the Time 100
posted by empath at 3:11 AM on May 1, 2010


oh that was in the fpp. i fail at reading
posted by empath at 3:15 AM on May 1, 2010


Talk about hopeless. As soon as I start the video, the controls dissapear and there seems to be no way to get them back. Which might not matter if there wasn't buffering issues causing the video to stop and start every 5 seconds. I've tried two browsers. Anyone else having issues?
posted by Soupisgoodfood at 3:28 AM on May 1, 2010


The controls disappear during the ad but reappear for the video itself
posted by minifigs at 3:35 AM on May 1, 2010


MetaFilter: Anyone else having issues?
posted by memebake at 3:37 AM on May 1, 2010 [5 favorites]


Looking at most "gamer" comics, and the people who write them (CTRL ALT DEL anyone?), I'm glad that Gabe and Tycho are the ones with all the influence. They seem like pretty decent people, not just well-meaning but actually achieving some good with their fame, and if they're ever in #my_neck_of_the_woods I'll happily buy them a drink in thanks.
posted by ArmyOfKittens at 3:41 AM on May 1, 2010 [13 favorites]


MtaFelietr: Aynone esle hivnag iusess?
posted by hypersloth at 3:41 AM on May 1, 2010 [5 favorites]


Wow, that was mildly depressing, especially how they ended on the note of Mike's brother dying of a drug overdose when Mike was a kid.

That said, if this sort of thing convinces others who need help to get it, I'll be perfectly happy with millions of mildly depressing videos flooding the Internet. I've been depressed and I've seen what it's done to other people and I don't wish it on anyone.
posted by wierdo at 4:08 AM on May 1, 2010


I'm not enough of a gamer to be a huge fan of Penny Arcade, but I found that to be an interesting interview. They're pretty brave to talk about their problems that way. Drugs are funny things. When I was younger, I used to party a lot, and I had some real close calls, which should have taught me my lesson. They didn't. I thought that what I got from drugs was worth the risk. (Mainly release from my painful shyness). It wasn't until I saw a woman I loved dearly throw away a promising future for meth and go from someone with a career and a wonderful life ahead of her to a non-functioning member of society that I fully realized the effect my past actions ( I had stopped with the drugs at this point) had hurt the people around me. Sometimes you have to be on the outside looking in before you can gain a real understanding.
posted by dortmunder at 4:15 AM on May 1, 2010 [1 favorite]


Mike: I wanted you to regulate your anxiety... and you wanted me to feel like I had a total body erection.

Jerry: Who's right?


Hah!
posted by MegoSteve at 5:12 AM on May 1, 2010 [1 favorite]


Very brave, indeed. It's a good thing the guys have built an, apparently, well-paying gig for themselves. If they were to have to enter the real job market tomorrow, I'm afraid any HR droid worth its salt would find this video and tag the boys as unacceptable candidates.

That said, they are doing a great service with this video. Much props to them for this.
posted by Thorzdad at 5:25 AM on May 1, 2010


Odd, I thought this was satirical at first. Not that familiar with Penny Arcade, but I expected a parody of psychiatric drugs. Yay for not demonizing psychiatric drugs (because god knows they've been hugely helpful in my life)!

However, I will forever rail against something I think this video is either consciously or unconsciously (I'm hoping for the latter) guilty of: equating all "recreational" drugs -- including psychedelics (including pot) -- with narcotics like heroin or even non-narcotic hard drugs like speed or coke. Honestly, the bottom-line message I take from this video is "don't ever do any drugs that aren't prescribed by your doctor because everything else is like heroin and you'll become an addict and overdose."
posted by treepour at 5:29 AM on May 1, 2010 [1 favorite]


I don't think the video's doing that; I think Mike's doing that, and Jerry's taking a much more sensible position while trying to be sensitive to the fact that his friend was a little bit traumatized by his brother's death.
posted by Greg Nog at 5:34 AM on May 1, 2010 [4 favorites]


So apparently it doesn't work if you have adblock enabled. Oh well, I watched it in chrome and the ad was not particularly annoying (it was an ad for a DVD about PAX)
posted by delmoi at 6:09 AM on May 1, 2010


Ugh, the cheesy "emotional" music is pretty annoying.
posted by delmoi at 6:28 AM on May 1, 2010 [1 favorite]


The whole PATV series has been phenomenal. I ended up watching the sixth (or so) episode on a lark, having roundly mocked the idea of a Penny Arcade reality show when they first floated it, and it's been such a neat-o insight into the creative process and people of something that I love for itself.

These two are not my heroes, but they are definitely amazing men, great artists, and in some respects model parents. I'd like to meet them some day (very unlikely, in my neck of the woods) to thank them for this among other things they've done.
posted by ChrisR at 6:37 AM on May 1, 2010


They were excessively mean to America's Radio Sweetheart, and that is not something I can easily forgive.
posted by joelhunt at 6:47 AM on May 1, 2010 [10 favorites]


Very brave, indeed. It's a good thing the guys have built an, apparently, well-paying gig for themselves. If they were to have to enter the real job market tomorrow, I'm afraid any HR droid worth its salt would find this video and tag the boys as unacceptable candidates.

Which is why it's all the nicer to see them doing well for themselves, doing what they love to do and escaping the dehumanizing thumb of wage-slave wranglers. There's hope for The Rest Of Us yet.
posted by Spatch at 6:50 AM on May 1, 2010


They were excessively mean to America's Radio Sweetheart, and that is not something I can easily forgive.

Huh. Looking for info on that, I stumbled across the PA post about it (and subsequently the link to The New Sincerity (which is an admittedly awful essay)) and the ensuing foofaraw on a whole mess of forums. Is there a link to the show itself? Did JJG ever release it for public listening?
posted by Greg Nog at 7:30 AM on May 1, 2010


Did JJG ever release it for public listening?

Not on the podcast feed. It was briefly available in this thread on the MaxFun Forums, but then Jesse took it down again when it started firing up even more drama between PA and MaxFun. Jesse's take on the incident is a couple posts into this thread. It sounds to me like a series of unfortunate misunderstandings that were worsened by the PA guys deciding to be huge dicks.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 8:04 AM on May 1, 2010


They were excessively mean to America's Radio Sweetheart

I've never even heard of this person, although apparently Ask Metafilter is sponsoring her.
posted by delmoi at 8:05 AM on May 1, 2010


It's a he. Jesse Thorn is the host of the PRI show The Sound of Young America, and also Metafilter's own YoungAmerican.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 8:16 AM on May 1, 2010


Wow, yeah, that music made me think that something was wrong with the sound at first.

It sounds to me like a series of unfortunate misunderstandings that were worsened by the PA guys deciding to be huge dicks.

I didn't think that they were overly dickish. They had a weird, unfortunate experience, they riffed on it in comic form and in their blog, somewhat rudely, and they moved on. If they were afraid of being rude then I don't know how much of their catalog would be left.

I have a feeling that Jordan, Jesse, Go probably gained at least a few listeners from the exposure.

On the subject of web videos. Does anyone know how I can full screen a video and then change the focus? I want to watch it full screen on one monitor while clicking around on the other, but it won't let me do that. :(
posted by ODiV at 8:40 AM on May 1, 2010


Honestly, the bottom-line message I take from this video is "don't ever do any drugs that aren't prescribed by your doctor because everything else is like heroin and you'll become an addict and overdose."

Did you watch the whole video? At the end, Krahulik specifically says that it's ridiculous for him to think that smoking a joint will lead inexorably to him overdosing and dying, but that's the connection that's been made in his brain because of his past.
posted by ODiV at 8:45 AM on May 1, 2010 [3 favorites]


Metafilter: There may not be a pill for that.

(sorry.)
posted by Benny Andajetz at 8:46 AM on May 1, 2010


I don't think the video's doing that; I think Mike's doing that, and Jerry's taking a much more sensible position while trying to be sensitive to the fact that his friend was a little bit traumatized by his brother's death.

Jerry's usually the more reasonable of the two- I'm flashing back to an series of blog posts where Mike was making some misogynistic argument (though for the life of me I can't recall what exactly it was), and Jerry was going "dude, very not cool".
posted by Pope Guilty at 9:22 AM on May 1, 2010


it was about pick up artists.
posted by empath at 9:23 AM on May 1, 2010


i actually still want to know what the most racist joke ever was.
posted by empath at 9:57 AM on May 1, 2010


Despite the fact that my gaming is very limited (and PC only), I really enjoy Penny Arcade. It regularly manages to transcend its material.

I also loved their podcasts before their apparent video re-incarnation. I loved them for documenting a creative process and the banter between Jerry and Mike. I had not given the video series its due by any means, if this is indicative of the quality.

Thanks for the post.
posted by Verdant at 11:31 AM on May 1, 2010


Odiv, you may have some luck with FlashHacker.
posted by Uncle Ira at 11:39 AM on May 1, 2010 [1 favorite]


Awesome, thanks!
posted by ODiV at 12:02 PM on May 1, 2010


So....which drug do they take that makes virtually every strip they write require several paragraphs of explanation in order to be funny?

Cause, you know, i wanna avoid that drug.
posted by inturnaround at 12:12 PM on May 1, 2010


It only takes explanation because you haven't played the games in question or kept up with gaming news. If I was reading a webcomic for doctors, I wouldn't be upset that the jokes required some reading to get.
posted by Pope Guilty at 12:13 PM on May 1, 2010 [1 favorite]


If I was reading a webcomic for doctors, I wouldn't be upset that the jokes required some reading to get.

In terms of webcomics, Penny-Arcade : Gamers :: ________ : Doctors is a question I now desperately need answered.
posted by jdherg at 12:22 PM on May 1, 2010 [3 favorites]


Ack jdherg I just spent 15 minutes googling the hell out that and came up with nothing.

This has to be done. I know a very funny anesthesiologist. My only concern is that the best jokes, at least the ones I hear are either very disturbing, in very bad taste or both. Moreso even than penny-arcade. Don't get me wrong, this is very funny, usually. Except that even growing up in a medical family I can't stomach some of the morbid kinds of humor that doctors and nurses seem to be able to laugh at.

Unfortunately most doctor's already have good jobs, ones which require at least a veneer of respectability out of the associate physicians. :(
posted by darkfred at 1:18 PM on May 1, 2010


One of the things that were fascinating to me was how early on Jerry Holkins says that for some people being depressed means that you make jokes when you feel bad, and then after Mike Krahulik's story about his brother and how it affected him, he makes a joke.
posted by Kattullus at 1:29 PM on May 1, 2010


Odiv, you may have some luck with FlashHacker.

Oh god it being a Penny Arcade thread I had misread that last word for a split second. NOOOOOO.....
posted by JHarris at 1:36 PM on May 1, 2010


Ack jdherg I just spent 15 minutes googling the hell out that and came up with nothing.

There was Scutmonkey
posted by Tenuki at 1:36 PM on May 1, 2010


Hint: Fruit
posted by JHarris at 1:36 PM on May 1, 2010


jdherg: "In terms of webcomics, Penny-Arcade : Gamers :: ________ : Doctors is a question I now desperately need answered."

What you're looking for is called Lucid TV.
posted by chaff at 2:12 PM on May 1, 2010 [2 favorites]


darkfred wrote: "I can't stomach some of the morbid kinds of humor that doctors and nurses seem to be able to laugh at."

Dealing with the sick and dying day in and day out will understandably give you a morbid sense of humor (if you didn't already have one). I get mildly annoyed at people who have a problem with that. (I'm no doctor, but I'm also not above some morbid humor from time to time)

Kattullus wrote: "you make jokes when you feel bad"

Talk about stating the obvious.
posted by wierdo at 2:50 PM on May 1, 2010


jdherg - not quite what you're looking for, but
http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php
Deals with people trying to be doctors (although in the more general sense)
posted by YAMWAK at 3:16 PM on May 1, 2010


wierdo: Talk about stating the obvious.

It's one of those things that are obvious to some and not to others (like how thinking about suicide isn't necessarily linked to being suicidal). But what I was remarking on was that Holkins makes that observation early on and then demonstrates it later on (making a joke in an uncomfortable situation).
posted by Kattullus at 3:26 PM on May 1, 2010


"So apparently it doesn't work if you have adblock enabled."

... which is exactly why I didn't watch it.

Really, I read the comments here. That's enough.
posted by markkraft at 4:43 PM on May 1, 2010


i actually still want to know what the most racist joke ever was.

Is it a black man's cock?
posted by obiwanwasabi at 4:46 PM on May 1, 2010


I didn't think that they were overly dickish. They had a weird, unfortunate experience, they riffed on it in comic form and in their blog, somewhat rudely, and they moved on. If they were afraid of being rude then I don't know how much of their catalog would be left.

I have a feeling that Jordan, Jesse, Go probably gained at least a few listeners from the exposure.


We may have gained a few listeners, but I certainly wouldn't do it over again. Not to put too fine a point on it (or get too far off topic), but from an intimate perspective, they were, indeed, overly dickish.
posted by YoungAmerican at 5:22 PM on May 1, 2010


I'm a bit surprised their Pharmacopsychiatry strip hasn't been posted yet.

Is there a link to the show itself? Did JJG ever release it for public listening?

There are torrents, but as I was able to download the show before it got taken down, I haven't bothered checking.

I was actually considering writing up an FPP on this, but I figured that if MaxFun went down from the traffic from PA when it originally posted the podcast (if I recall, someone even interpreted it as an attack), then it wouldn't enjoy a secondary surge from Metafilter.
posted by vaghjar at 6:19 PM on May 1, 2010


If you want the Jordan, Jesse, Go! Penny Arcade interview, you can listen to it here (or do a google search for jjgothelostepisode.mp3).

It's a trainwreck.
posted by amuseDetachment at 6:30 PM on May 1, 2010 [1 favorite]


Penny Arcade has a long history of getting into scraps. Way back in 1999, (they started in '98) they did a comic entitled Illiad: Not Funny.
posted by Kattullus at 6:58 PM on May 1, 2010


Jerry's usually the more reasonable of the two

After watching these shows every Saturday for the past couple of months, I'm not sure I would agree with that sentiment.
posted by P.o.B. at 8:46 PM on May 1, 2010


Thanks for chiming in, YoungAmerican. I certainly wasn't there, so I was just commenting how it looked when I was reading about it.

And I realize now that my comment about gaining listeners might have read like some sort of consolation or something, when I just meant that it seemed to me that a lot of PA readers share the sense of humour present in Jordan, Jesse, Go!

After watching these shows every Saturday for the past couple of months, I'm not sure I would agree with that sentiment.

I think I made this same comment on MeFi last time we talked about the show, but the intensity with which he approaches recreational ping pong scares me a bit.
posted by ODiV at 9:01 PM on May 1, 2010




The whole PATV series has been phenomenal.

I like PATV, but I loved the Penny-Arcade podcast. Being so much longer and less edited, it gave a much better window into their creative process, and was generally much more humorous and entertaining.

Also, they never interrupted the podcast to do a product-placement skit for zombie dice. WTF.
posted by straight at 1:01 AM on May 2, 2010


Have never been able to understand what it is that has made those kids internet-famous. My lack of interest in them, though, having read about their interaction with Jesse and Jordan, has taken a turn into active dislike.

Now I'm going to have to scratch somebody else off the List. Stalin or Sarah Palin? Decisions, decisions.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:19 AM on May 2, 2010


My lack of interest in them, though, having read about their interaction with Jesse and Jordan, has taken a turn into active dislike.

Honestly, that whole thing seems so out of character for them that I was a little bit shocked when I read it.
posted by empath at 7:52 AM on May 2, 2010


"You can be crazy, you just don't have to go around being anxious and depressed all the time."

I don't read PA and don't game, but this was just really nice. As someone who treats a lot of anxiety and depression, I might point someone towards this if they are considering going on meds.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 8:25 AM on May 2, 2010


Mr. Wonder Chicken,

If you enjoy hating Gabe & Tycho, I strongly recommend you not listen to this. Or this. (Direct links to ~30MB .mp3 podcast files).
posted by straight at 3:42 PM on May 3, 2010


I reserve my hatred for the most special of cases, and I never, never enjoy it.

Enjoying hatred has become one of our fledgling internet culture's most popular spectator sports, and I fucking hate that.

Whoops, wait a minute there whut.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:03 AM on May 4, 2010


I didn't mean to paint you as a hater StavrosT.W.C. You don't come across that way at all. I was just trying to be colorful in the wording of my recommendation for those particularly funny Penny Arcade podcasts.
posted by straight at 8:25 AM on May 6, 2010


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