"Our gays are more macho than their straights!"
August 17, 2010 6:44 PM   Subscribe

In an unusual about-face for such a public Conservative personality, Ann Coulter (the "Right-Wing Judy Garland") will be headlining an upcoming gathering of Gay Conservatives called HOMOCON 2010. Reaction on all sides of the aisle is mixed, to put it charitably.

Does Ann's appearance at a gay conservative bash represent the beginning of a shift in focus for .U.S conservatism? Glenn Beck has recently stated (to much consternation) that he doesn't believe gay marriage is a "threat to the country".

Rush Limbaugh, who's fourth wedding was recently MC'd by Elton John, has come out in favor of civil unions for gay couples. (Again, to the sound of gnashing teeth in some circles).

No matter what the future holds for .U.S conservatism, few doubt that there will be blood.
posted by Azazel Fel (94 comments total) 8 users marked this as a favorite
 
?.U.S
posted by Rhaomi at 6:48 PM on August 17, 2010 [5 favorites]


?
posted by MrMoonPie at 6:48 PM on August 17, 2010


Ah yes, nothing says "the fourth time's a charm!" like Rush fricking Limbaugh. Aaaaargh. Is he competing with Newt Gingrich or something?
posted by bitter-girl.com at 6:51 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


Who is the Left Wing Judy Garland?
posted by hermitosis at 6:54 PM on August 17, 2010 [3 favorites]


GOP slogan suggestion: What Are You Talking About, We Never Suggested Killing $RECENTLY_SEMI-PROTECTED_MINORITY
posted by DU at 6:54 PM on August 17, 2010 [20 favorites]




Wait... what?
posted by ph00dz at 6:59 PM on August 17, 2010


"Who is the Left Wing Judy Garland?"

Oddly enough it's Judy Garland.
posted by mr_crash_davis mark II: Jazz Odyssey at 7:00 PM on August 17, 2010 [12 favorites]


*gets friggin' huge bucket of popcorn, settles in*

*sits down, trembling slightly while waiting for the party to begin*
posted by thsmchnekllsfascists at 7:02 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


Who is the Left Wing Judy Garland?

Judy Garland
posted by En0rm0 at 7:02 PM on August 17, 2010


I don't care how I much I may agree or sympathize with your issue, interest, plight, grievance, injury, or sufferance. If you anything Ann Coulter has to say is worth listening to for five seconds, I will pay you no heed.

The woman is a bigoted ignorant fuckwit.
posted by dry white toast at 7:03 PM on August 17, 2010 [2 favorites]


1. "ZOMG, elections are coming up! Shit, we need more votes! Um, um, how bout the gays?"
2. "Hey guys, you know that thing where we stir shit up on some fucking sideline topic and keep the dems wasting important time and money? I think we just got gay-trolled..."

Yawn.
posted by yeloson at 7:06 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


You know I red this and I could not parse it. Not I didn't know the words existed, but like I was just forgot how to read English.

I just, I think it was a mental defense system.

That being said, I want some big scary Drag Queens to descend on the conference and DO NOTHING
just sit there, drinking water, eating bad hotel food, just always there, in the background, all big and glittery and gleaming, sending out visible HATE SPIKES from a thousand fake feather boas. Melting Ann Coulter into a puddle of beige cover-up cream with thier collective Reproaching Stare.
posted by The Whelk at 7:11 PM on August 17, 2010 [41 favorites]


Trollfeedfilter.
posted by BrotherCaine at 7:11 PM on August 17, 2010


Also fuck you my Homocon is like ten times better than this.

It has blackjack! and hookers!
posted by The Whelk at 7:13 PM on August 17, 2010 [5 favorites]


HOMOCON? Really? HOMOCON?

The gay lifestyle paired with nerdy comic book guys. Neither party looks good.
posted by twoleftfeet at 7:15 PM on August 17, 2010 [2 favorites]




The gay lifestyle paired with nerdy comic book guys. Neither party looks good.

That depends, have you met my Jayne Appreciation Group?
posted by The Whelk at 7:23 PM on August 17, 2010 [11 favorites]


Say what you will about Ann's hateful rhetoric and divisive political theatre, but it is never NEVER too late to take a step in the right direction. If anything, there exists in her fanbase almost unlimited potential to take more steps towards inclusiveness and equal rights for marriage. It's the opposite of preaching to the choir, and it probably wasn't easy for her to make the decision to do so. But she did. And I hope many more will because of it.
posted by infinitefloatingbrains at 7:24 PM on August 17, 2010 [4 favorites]


Can we track any uptick in sad M4M Craigslist ads and/or drunken nervous breakdowns at midtown gay bars during the Homocon? It would be illuminating
posted by The Whelk at 7:25 PM on August 17, 2010 [5 favorites]


If this bring us even an inch closer to greater acceptance for one of America's many marginalized, oppressed and abused groups, then I'm willing to even offer Ann Coulter some applause. Granted, its more of a golf clap, but it is applause none the less.

Besides, with the OH HOLY SHIT GROUND ZERO MOSQUE WTF stirring up the anti-Muslim fear going for them right now, the Republicans don't especially need the Big Gay Bogeyman.
posted by Joey Michaels at 7:25 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


Oh, Jesus, I wonder if HOMOCON would pay me to put on workshops on how to pass for straight.

I mean, since it's irony all the way down, right?
posted by klangklangston at 7:25 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


The gay lifestyle...

Pray tell, what is "THE GAY LIFESTYLE?"

Probably like the GAY AGENDA, AMIRITIE?
8:00 a.m. Wake up. Wonder where you are.

8:01 a.m. Realize you are laying on 100 percent cotton sheets of at least a 300 count, so don't panic; you're not slumming.

8:02 a.m. Realize you are actually in your own bed for a change. Wake stranger next to you and tell him you are late for work so won't be able to cook breakfast for him. Mutter "sorry" as you help him look for his far-flung underwear. You find out that you tore his boxers while ripping them off him last night, so you "loan" him a pair of boxer-briefs, but not the new ones because you never intend to see him again.

8:05 a.m. Tell the stranger, whose name eludes you, "It was fun. I'll give you a call," as you usher him out the door, avoiding his egregious morning-breath.

8:06 a.m. Crumple and dispose of the piece of paper with his telephone number on it when you get to the kitchen.

8:07 a.m. Make a high protein breakfast while watching Good Morning America. Wonder if the stories you've heard about George Stephanopoulos are true. Decide they must be.

8:30 a.m. Italian or domestic? Decide to go with three-button Italian and the only shirt that is clean.

8:45 a.m. Climb into red Z4 and try not to look too much like Barbie driving one of her accessories as you pull out of your underground parking. Prada or Armani sunglasses? Go with Prada.

9:35 a.m. Stroll into office.

9:36 a.m. Close door to office and call best friend and laugh about the guy who spent the night at your condo. Point out something annoying about best friend's boyfriend but quickly add "It doesn't matter what everyone else thinks, just as long as you love him."

10:15 a.m. Leave office, telling your secretary you are "meeting with a client." Pretend not to notice her insubordinate roll of her eyes (or the cloying "poem" she has tacked to her cubicle wall).

10:30 a.m. Hair appointment for lowlights and cut. Purchase of Aveda anti-humectant pomade.

11:30 a.m. Run into personal trainer at gym. Pester him about getting you Human Growth Hormone. Spend 30 minutes talking to friends on your cell phone while using Hammer Strength machines, preparing a mental-matrix of which circuit parties everyone is going to and which are now passé.

12:00pm Tan. Schedule back-waxing in time for Saturday party where you know you will end up shirtless.

12:30 p.m. Pay trainer for anabolic steroids and schedule a workout. Shower, taking ten minutes to knot your tie while you check-out your best friend's boyfriend undress with the calculation of someone used to wearing a t-back and having dollars stuffed in their crotch.

1:00 p.m. Meet someone for whom you only know his waist, chest and penis size from Manhunt for lunch at a hot, new restaurant. Because the maître d' recognizes you from a gay bar, you are whisked past the Christian heterosexual couples who have been waiting patiently for a table since 12:30.

2:30 p.m. "Dessert at your place." Find out, once again, people lie on Manhunt.

3:33 p.m. Assume complete control of the U.S., state, and local governments (in addition to other nations' governments); destroy all healthy Christian marriages; recruit all children grades Kindergarten through 12 into your amoral, filthy lifestyle; secure complete control of the media, starting with sitcoms; molest innocent children; give AIDS to as many people as you can; host a pornographic "art" exhibit at your local art museum; and turn people away from Jesus, causing them to burn forever in Hell.

4:10 p.m. Time permitting, bring about the general decline of Western Civilization and look like you are having way too much fun doing it.

4:30 p.m. Take a disco-nap to prevent facial wrinkles from the stress of world conquest and being so terribly witty.

6:00 p.m. Open a fabulous new bottle of Malbec.

6:47 P.M. Bake Ketamine for weekend. Test recipe.

7:00 P.M. Go to Abercrombie & Fitch and announce in a loud voice, "Over! Way over!"

7:40 P.M. Stop looking at the photographic displays at Abercrombie & Fitch and go to a cool store to begin shopping.

8:30 p.m. Light dinner with catty homosexual friends at a restaurant you will be "over" by the time it gets its first review in the local paper.

10:30 p.m. Cocktails at a debauched gay bar, trying to avoid alcoholic queens who can't navigate a crowd with a lit cigarette in one hand and a Grey Goose in a cheap plastic cup in the other. Make audible remark about how "trashy" people who still think smoking is acceptable are.

12:00 a.m. "Nightcap at your place." Find out that people lie in bars, too.
posted by ericb at 7:25 PM on August 17, 2010 [55 favorites]


Wait wait wait wait ...can we actually GET a gay Geek convention going? Oh My God. It would be beautiful. Everyone would get so laid it is not even funny.
posted by The Whelk at 7:26 PM on August 17, 2010 [21 favorites]


So, what, racism alone is the agenda for this election?
posted by Artw at 7:30 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


Can we not start with the transphobic shit here, no matter how despicable the target might be?
That seemed like a pretty hurtful. We're all friends here on MetaFilter, and we have to remember that what may seem funny sometimes can actually hurt folks who come here for an open, inclusive, accepting community.
posted by KokuRyu at 7:30 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


Can we get Sarah Palin's opinion on this? Sarah Palin chose not to be gay.
posted by twoleftfeet at 7:34 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


A couple years back Coulter was sighted dining in West Hollywood with a gay entourage.

I've always thought these people (right-wing celebrities) were fake, that they didn't actually believe the phobic/racist/bigoted crap they spew. I just think they're amoral & don't give a crap about who they hurt in the real world so long as the cameras are focusing on them.

I don't accept that this is any kind of step forward. I mean, ageing washed up diva tries to resurrect her career by playing for the boys - haven't we all heard that one before?

If anything it's another step backwards for gay Republicans.

Also, Sufis and Mexicans seem poised to be the targets this round. Mystical, poetry reading, peace loving, Sufis.
posted by kanewai at 7:46 PM on August 17, 2010 [3 favorites]


Sufis?
posted by twoleftfeet at 7:52 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


OK, something fucking weird is going on with the right-wing and their demagogues. Not only do we have Ann Coulter suddenly deciding that gays are OK, we also recently had both Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck proclaiming that they were OK with California legalizing pot.

It's as if they suddenly they realized their failboat was in danger of capsizing because they had too many negative positions on board, and they had to jettison a few. It feels as though they realized that when you demonize EVERYONE, then NO-ONE will want to come join your hate-party, so suddenly it's like, "Hey, you know those core values we all shared? The ones about teh Gays are all going to burn in hell and drugs and druggies are all universally bad? Well, SURPRISE! Those core values aren't our core values any more!"

What's next? They elect a Black chairman for the RNC? Oh, wait ... Umm, how about they put up a woman as candidate for Veep? Uhh ... hmm.

I truly wonder if there isn't a growing awareness that they have been painting themselves into an ever-shrinking exclusionary corner ...
posted by kcds at 7:53 PM on August 17, 2010 [9 favorites]


The Whelk, you and I should found ROBOHOMO for 2011.
posted by hermitosis at 7:55 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


"our gays are more macho than their straights!"

This seems to be saying:
1) More macho is good.
2) Straight people (men?) are more macho than gay people.
3) Republicans are more macho than Democrats.

Are they promoting this event by disparaging gays? There's something I'm not getting here.
posted by parudox at 7:58 PM on August 17, 2010 [3 favorites]


Mod note: few comments removed - please take "ann coulter is a man" stuff elsewhere
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 7:59 PM on August 17, 2010 [3 favorites]


i've always felt the best way to deal with public masturbation is to simply ignore it.
posted by kitchenrat at 8:01 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


Sufis?

Feisal Abdul Rauf, the head of the organization building the Islamic community center in Manhattan, is a Sufi.

posted by jedicus at 8:01 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


This is a bit of a head-scratcher for me. I mean, it seems to me that with Prop 8 etc. homophobia would be a very useful card for the right-wing machine to be playing. The idea that Beck, Coulter and Limbaugh would be backing off, even slightly, seems odd.

Yeah, yeah, changing demographics, but this equally important shift hasn't prevented the Right from playing up the Hispanic Threat for all its worth. A change of conscience is possible, I suppose, but hard to believe.

It's times like this that I almost wish we had more right-wingers here on Metafilter, to let us in on whatever the heck's going on on the other side of the wall.
posted by AdamCSnider at 8:04 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


Sufi = 9/11 TERRAH DERVISH.
posted by Artw at 8:06 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


Personally, I think this "shift" on homosexuals/gay marriage by Coulter/Beck/Limbaugh has more to do with the pundit class (who really drive the agenda of the GOP, no matter what anyone says) deciding that the Religious Right is of no more use to them from a political standpoint now that the Tea Party has emerged as the new class of convenient dupes to be exploited by the Right.

The one problem the GOP had in the past with the Religious Right was that every so often, prominent RR leaders (like James Dobson of Focus on The Family), would threaten to abandon the GOP at the polls unless they saw some movement on their issues. For a long time, the GOP & their Pundocracy put up with this arrangement because the RR were motivated voters who would do what they were told come election time on every GOP issue as long as the party would do something about abortion/gay marriage/whatever bug was up the RR's ass at the moment. The only flaw with this strategy for the GOP was that they kept shedding fiscally conservative donors and voters in the NE and certain swing states.

Now that the Tea Party has come along, the GOP no longer needs the RR as much. The bonus of this is while the TP is motivated, they are unorganized and leaderless (at least on national political level) without a clear agenda. This gives the Pundocracy the opportunity to assume the role of TP leadership/ guidance (sometghing Glenn Beck has manged to exploit very well) without the GOP having to make any political promises. This "standing down" on gay marriage is largely a stunt (IMO) to try and win back some of the fiscal conservative/NE Republican voters/donors for the GOP in the upcoming election. B

TL;DR version: The Right swings both ways when it comes to exploiting gay marriage for votes.
posted by KingEdRa at 8:07 PM on August 17, 2010 [2 favorites]


I'm glad to have gay conservatives, really I am. I think it's fine to be homosexual and be in favour of a strong military, low taxes, isolation from the United Nations, whatever positions right wingers take. But the religious stuff is out, of course, since pretty much all conservative religions are gay bashers. And naturally anti-gay direct politics are out too. But the other stuff, that's OK with me. Plus men are hot in short hair and suits.
posted by Nelson at 8:10 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


ROBOHOMO '11! A Night to not remember!
posted by The Whelk at 8:13 PM on August 17, 2010 [4 favorites]


Forgive me, but I can't remember, and I need some help here. Why am I supposed to care about Ann Coulter's opinions again?
posted by belvidere at 8:13 PM on August 17, 2010 [2 favorites]


The Whelk: You know I red this and I could not parse it.

Yeah, it blue my mind too!
posted by Greg_Ace at 8:15 PM on August 17, 2010 [5 favorites]


cause she is Wheat Thins.
posted by The Whelk at 8:15 PM on August 17, 2010


Why am I supposed to care about Ann Coulter's opinions again?

I don't think it's so much "let's care about her opinions!" as it is "let's use her as a barometer for where the right wing is heading on gay equality!"
posted by Blue Jello Elf at 8:29 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


I don't think it's so much "let's care about her opinions!" as it is "let's use her as a barometer for where the right wing is heading on gay equality!

See, I believe that time and again, Ann Coulter has shown that she can only be used as a barometer for how much attention she can draw to herself.
posted by belvidere at 8:32 PM on August 17, 2010 [2 favorites]


Every time Ann Coulter is mentioned I can't help but think of Philip Pullman's Mrs. Coulter. And then I remember that "coulter" is also an obsolete word for "knife" (OED).

...we also recently had both Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck proclaiming that they were OK with California legalizing pot.

Well, Palin must be smoking pot. How else can you explain the things that come out of her mouth. Dammit, she'll give pot smokers a bad name.
posted by New England Cultist at 8:36 PM on August 17, 2010


They just own stock in Frito-Lay.
posted by The Whelk at 8:37 PM on August 17, 2010


But the other stuff, that's OK with me. Plus men are hot in short hair and suits.

Well, yes, the clean-cut look can be nice regardless of political stripes but it still sickens me how many gays are out there who are willing to befriend hateful and misanthropic charlatans just because "hey, at least they're not totally homophobic anymore" and "fame = power" &c.
posted by kittyprecious at 8:44 PM on August 17, 2010


Why am I supposed to care about Ann Coulter's opinions again?

I don't think it's so much "let's care about her opinions!" as it is "let's use her as a barometer for where the right wing is heading on gay equality!"


Yes, exactly.

Honestly, if you're for acceptance of gays, then this is great news. Many people who respect Ann Coulter and don't share your outlook may reconsider their own outlook.
posted by esprit de l'escalier at 8:47 PM on August 17, 2010 [2 favorites]


homocon? really? Did the the organizers allow conservatives that hate gay people name the convention in exchange for being allowed to have the convention?
posted by djduckie at 8:53 PM on August 17, 2010


EVERY CON I ENTER IS A HOMOCON
posted by The Whelk at 8:54 PM on August 17, 2010 [3 favorites]


HOMONCULUS
posted by hermitosis at 9:04 PM on August 17, 2010


YOU LEAVE HIM OUT OF THIS
posted by The Whelk at 9:06 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


Okay I can't remember if I read this or I was told this at a party or whatever, but apparently the plan was for Simon and Jayne to have a Thing for a bit if the show got picked up which would lead to Drama It's entirely possible I hallucinated this at the Standard Hotel all hopped up on pencil shavings and Thomas Dolby
posted by The Whelk at 9:13 PM on August 17, 2010 [4 favorites]


There is only one HOMOCON.

Actually, there are two, but they are the same.
posted by dirigibleman at 9:15 PM on August 17, 2010 [2 favorites]


...gay conservative bash...

I get jokes.
posted by Evilspork at 9:40 PM on August 17, 2010


Okay I can't remember if I read this or I was told this at a party or whatever, but apparently the plan was for Simon and Jayne to have a Thing for a bit if the show got picked up which would lead to Drama It's entirely possible I hallucinated this at the Standard Hotel all hopped up on pencil shavings and Thomas Dolby

*boggle* Considering the corner of fandom I mostly hang out in (some of my friends wrote seminal Simon/Jayne fics), I find it hard to believe I never heard about this.

(Besides, it's obvious Mal and Simon are the OTP.)
posted by kmz at 9:45 PM on August 17, 2010


The tea party would so love Firefly. I'm trying to keep them unaware of it so that they don't ruin it for me.

They did it to V.
posted by mccarty.tim at 10:03 PM on August 17, 2010


The Space South shall rise again!
posted by Artw at 10:09 PM on August 17, 2010


Whew, thank God. I just Googled "firefly tea party" and this was the most relevant result: "I brought you here to bed my son, not throw him a tea party!"
posted by mccarty.tim at 10:14 PM on August 17, 2010


The tea party would so love Firefly. I'm trying to keep them unaware of it so that they don't ruin it for me.

They did it to V.


You didn't think V seemed like transparent anti-Obama propaganda from the very beginning? I mean, didn't their sinister plot start with giving everyone free healthcare?
posted by revfitz at 10:21 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


Hmm, this is weird. Didn't the Democratic party kinda swing libertarian a bit when they were out of power under Bush?

I'm just saying, what if libertarianism (all the the social, civil, and economic types) is kind of a general attitude in America that's not really prevalent enough to function as a party on it's own, but perfectly suited to working as a bargaining chip for one of the big parties when they need to stir up votes?

Granted, the Democrats haven't really delivered very much on the things people were libertarian about, like NSA wiretaps and repealing the Patriot Act. Who knows what the Republicans will do next time they get back in power.
posted by mccarty.tim at 10:23 PM on August 17, 2010


Why has no one yet answered the most important question here? To wit: what the fuck does ".U.S" mean?
posted by mrnutty at 10:24 PM on August 17, 2010


No offense to HOMOCON, but are all the graphic designers in the GOP straight? That's one of the ugliest posters ever.

Not because of Ann Colter. Please not to have this conversation again. She's a perfectly normal looking woman, and I could see how people could find her attractive.
posted by mccarty.tim at 10:27 PM on August 17, 2010


we also recently had both Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck proclaiming that they were OK with California legalizing pot

*cough*cough*COUGHSPUTTER*hack!

What?

Dammit. You made me inhale bongwater.

Wait. Is this where they attach some hated positions to their most hated lightning rods and then crucify them and purge the evil? Are we going to see a "come to Jesus" moment with these crackheads sometime soon?
posted by krinklyfig at 10:56 PM on August 17, 2010


"old school Republicans" are "scared s**tless" of the changing landscape.

Never ashamed to abandon "principle" when the creaky old pirate balloon is taking water - and so, as their happy vessel of bigotry and hatred sinks into the biosphere ...

"Do not assume that just because we support equality issues we support a big government agenda

Except, of course, for their hearty embrace of big government spending, the "No Tax but Spend" right knows that an entire generation thinks of them as toothless dinosaurs - and so throws some ballast overboard - just in time for an election! - and adopts "equality issues" to replace "family values".

The Gutless Old Pigs remind me just now of how much a chameleon looks like a crocodile.
posted by Twang at 10:56 PM on August 17, 2010


Hmm, this is weird. Didn't the Democratic party kinda swing libertarian a bit when they were out of power under Bush?

Well I don't know about that, but back in the '70s everyone was wearing leisure suits and gold chains, so ...
posted by krinklyfig at 10:58 PM on August 17, 2010


Isn't this kind of a desperately transparent attempt to get back in the spotlight? In 2006/2007, Ann Coulter was a marketable crazy person; now every recognizable figure in the Republican Party is crazier than she was then. What does she have to sell that you can't get cheaper and fresher from Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Pam Geller or even Tim Pawlenty?
posted by aaronetc at 11:01 PM on August 17, 2010 [2 favorites]


Isn't this kind of a desperately transparent attempt to get back in the spotlight? In 2006/2007, Ann Coulter was a marketable crazy person; now every recognizable figure in the Republican Party is crazier than she was then. What does she have to sell that you can't get cheaper and fresher from Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Pam Geller or even Tim Pawlenty?

I'M SO FUCKING CRAZY I'M MY OWN EVIL TWIN! I'M IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR! TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE I'M GOING NEXT, BETCHA CAN'T! HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAA!
posted by krinklyfig at 11:08 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


She's long been rumored to be the, for lack of a better word, fag hag to a bevvy publically closeted, privately very out young gay Republicans. I wonder how the felt when she called Gore a "total fag" or called John Edwards a "faggot." I've wondered if she isn't a bit like white people who have a few black friends and suddenly feel comfortable throwing around the n-word, because they think the friendships have given them special dispensation.

Many people who respect Ann Coulter and don't share your outlook may reconsider their own outlook.

I hope you're right, but my sense is her fans don't look to her to see who to tolerate.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:29 PM on August 17, 2010 [1 favorite]


HOMONCULUS

It was like that when I got here.
posted by homunculus at 12:16 AM on August 18, 2010


Hmm, this is weird. Didn't the Democratic party kinda swing libertarian a bit when they were out of power under Bush?

I'm just saying, what if libertarianism (all the the social, civil, and economic types) is kind of a general attitude in America that's not really prevalent enough to function as a party on it's own, but perfectly suited to working as a bargaining chip for one of the big parties when they need to stir up votes?


Alternatively, maybe people just tend to lean more "libertarian"/anti-government when a government they don't like is in power?
posted by naoko at 12:50 AM on August 18, 2010


Now that the Tea Party has come along, the GOP no longer needs the RR as much.

Here's the issue I have with this theory: the Tea Party is TINY, especially when compared to the religious right a few years ago. They make wonderful provocateurs, but I think every pundit knows that relying on them as a voting base is bad news. You can take the Tea Party out of the equation--I think what we're seeing is the right wing recognizing that the religious right's ability to organize and pressure politicians is fading after a whole lot of repeated scandal, changing economic conditions, and generational shifts in both leadership and membership.
posted by Subcommandante Cheese at 1:19 AM on August 18, 2010 [3 favorites]


11:30 a.m. Run into personal trainer at gym. Pester him about getting you Human Growth Hormone. Spend 30 minutes talking to friends on your cell phone while using Hammer Strength machines, preparing a mental-matrix of which circuit parties everyone is going to and which are now passé.

12:00pm Tan.


So wait....if I was a gay guy I could still fuck men but only have to spend half an hour at the gym? God DAMN my uterus!
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 5:47 AM on August 18, 2010


Just a thought - maybe Ann Coulter needs money.
posted by nosila at 5:56 AM on August 18, 2010


I had the idea of Ann Coulter singing a neo-con version of Judy at Carnegie Hall but I got depressed half-way through writing the track list and stopped.
posted by The Whelk at 6:05 AM on August 18, 2010


The Right is simply consolidating their position as America's Single Issue Party. :

If they can't get your vote for Anti-Gay Marriage (because you are gay) they'll get it for Lower Taxes.

If they can't get your vote for Immigration Reform (because you are Hispanic) they'll get if for Outlawing Abortion.

If they can't get your vote for Gun Control (because you are Christian) they'll get it for Anti-Gay Marriage.

If they can't get your vote for Outlawing Abortion (because you are a rich guy with a mistress) they'll get it for Tax Cuts.

Republicans are really the Big Tent Party with a lot of tiny compartments.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 6:55 AM on August 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


Wait wait wait wait ...can we actually GET a gay Geek convention going? Oh My God. It would be beautiful. Everyone would get so laid it is not even funny.

Aaaand done.
posted by Pickman's Next Top Model at 7:34 AM on August 18, 2010


The common thread is that the muscle-cuddling garb often leaves little to the imagination.

This is the most awkward sentence in the history of English. Steady on NYT, steady on.
posted by The Whelk at 7:39 AM on August 18, 2010


can we actually GET a gay Geek convention going?

Gaylaxicon
Outlantacon
posted by fings at 8:27 AM on August 18, 2010


(Besides, it's obvious Mal and Simon are the OTP.)

Please. Jayne practically dipped Simon's pigtails into the inkwell.
posted by cereselle at 9:15 AM on August 18, 2010


I expect so much more from something called Homocon.

I agree with The Whelk and support you emphatically. And gayly.
posted by Theta States at 10:37 AM on August 18, 2010


WND dumps Ann Coulter from Miami due to Homoconflict -- "Farah cites her speech to 'gay' event as reason."
posted by ericb at 11:31 AM on August 18, 2010


From ericb's link: Conservative superstar Ann Coulter today was dropped as a keynote speaker for WND's "Taking America Back National Conference"

More like "Taking America Backwards." Amirite?
posted by hydrophonic at 11:47 AM on August 18, 2010


Ann Coulter, you will NEVER be Tammy Faye. RIP, Tammy.
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 12:54 PM on August 18, 2010


Farah's explanation is pretty disgusting, but then again he runs a pretty disgusting website.
posted by mccarty.tim at 5:35 PM on August 18, 2010


WND dumps Ann Coulter from Miami due to Homoconflict -- "Farah cites her speech to 'gay' event as reason."

I'm genuinely surprised that Farah actually went that far. That's a very public and very humiliating smack-down from his end.
posted by Azazel Fel at 6:28 PM on August 18, 2010


"Homoconflict"?
posted by krinklyfig at 8:04 PM on August 25, 2010


It's like Fight Club but it ends differently.
posted by The Whelk at 9:22 PM on August 25, 2010


I kind of figured it'd end exactly like Fight club.
posted by Theta States at 6:23 AM on August 26, 2010


Ilf I had a tumor I'd name it Coulter
posted by The Whelk at 7:19 AM on August 26, 2010


I don't know if anybody is still reading this but...

...this event is actually causing some serious repercussions in Conservative circles. I lurk over at FreeRepublic and I can tell you that anybody who supports Ann's decision to speak at Homocon is getting insta-banned, no questions asked. Even users who have been around 5+ years.

FreeRepublic does go through occasional Soviet-style purges, but only when their Maximum Leader feels that the purity of the site is being threatened in some existential way. Apparently Coulter's defection spooked them enough to warrant another round of "disappearances".

This is interesting because it suggests, along with Farah's actions and others, that the conservative movement is basically purging a lot of moderates (moderates who are, by everyone else's standards, still extremely right wing) because the leadership feels that they still aren't conservative enough. They seem to be circling the wagons, but each time they do the wagon train gets smaller and smaller.

Interesting times.
posted by Azazel Fel at 6:40 AM on August 27, 2010 [1 favorite]


Also, it's interesting (and kinda scary) to see FreeRepublic users talk about other users who have been purged.

Conservamommy: "Hey, did you hear that BushGuy309 got zotted*?"

AntiTaxDude: "Yeah, I heard. Hasn't he been around since 2002?"

Conservamommy: "Yeah. I couldn't believe it. I even talked with him on the phone. He seemed like such a nice guy."

AntiTaxDude: "I know. He was so reliable until he spoke up for Faghag Coulter. I guess he was a liberal deep-cover agent**."

Conservamommy: "They're everywhere!"

Stuff like that. It's sad, pathetic and scary.

*"zotted" is the FR euphemism for "da, he vaz zent to gulag".

**it's common knowledge on FR, including repeated statements by the leadership, that well-paid liberal activists opened accounts years ago and infiltrated the ranks to become deep-cover agents within the community. Almost everyone who is purged is suspected of being a liberal saboteur, no matter how faithful or consistent they were, or no matter for what reason they were banned. For a group of right-wing Americans, they seem to have the uncanny ability to channel the zeitgeist of 1930's Russia remarkably well.

posted by Azazel Fel at 6:52 AM on August 27, 2010 [1 favorite]


I'd like to point out this conference is ON MY BIRTHDAY.
posted by The Whelk at 5:09 PM on September 3, 2010


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