Go Ahead, Take a Copy
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In Praise of Copying. A pdf of a book by Marcus Boon.
Boon's previous book is quite interesting: The Road of Excess: A History of Writers on Drugs.
Boon's previous book is quite interesting: The Road of Excess: A History of Writers on Drugs.
What just happened here?
posted by metaplectic at 9:12 PM on October 27, 2010
posted by metaplectic at 9:12 PM on October 27, 2010
Boon also edited this John Giorno collection.
posted by roll truck roll at 9:13 PM on October 27, 2010
posted by roll truck roll at 9:13 PM on October 27, 2010
In Praise of Copying. A pdf of a book by Marcus Boon.
Boon's previous book is quite interesting: The Road of Excess: A History of Writers on Drugs.
posted by the aloha at 2:05 PM on October 28 [4 favorites +] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by vidur at 2:06 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by metaplectic at 2:12 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Boon also edited this John Giorno collection.
posted by roll truck roll at 2:13 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
posted by Fiasco da Gama at 9:37 PM on October 27, 2010 [1 favorite]
Boon's previous book is quite interesting: The Road of Excess: A History of Writers on Drugs.
posted by the aloha at 2:05 PM on October 28 [4 favorites +] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by vidur at 2:06 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by metaplectic at 2:12 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Boon also edited this John Giorno collection.
posted by roll truck roll at 2:13 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
posted by Fiasco da Gama at 9:37 PM on October 27, 2010 [1 favorite]
I don't remix where this is HELLO OPERATOR GIVE ME
posted by haveanicesummer at 9:45 PM on October 27, 2010
posted by haveanicesummer at 9:45 PM on October 27, 2010
posted by hermitosis at 9:53 PM on October 27, 2010
Oh, yeah. I'll copy the shit out of this. Baby. There's, like, a copy on my laptop and one on my iPad and iPhone and I might even put a copy on my personal website. And seed it on bitTorrent, just for the fuck of it. Maybe I'll even get around to reading it one day. Maybe. If I run out of lolcats or funny tweets to read or something. Whatever.
posted by chasing at 10:08 PM on October 27, 2010
posted by chasing at 10:08 PM on October 27, 2010
ditto chasing....not sure if this is readable yet, and i've been reading it for a while...
but to stay task:
um..copy joke? proxy! it's a bittersweet symphony?
posted by es_de_bah at 10:43 PM on October 27, 2010
but to stay task:
um..copy joke? proxy! it's a bittersweet symphony?
posted by es_de_bah at 10:43 PM on October 27, 2010
From page 1:
posted by inedible at 11:00 PM on October 27, 2010
Copyright ©2010 by the President and Fellows of Harvard College All rights reservedWhat the large print giveth, the small print taketh away.
posted by inedible at 11:00 PM on October 27, 2010
Inedible, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The whole point of creative commons (as opposed to public domain) is that copyright can be retained while letting others do things with it.
posted by wayland at 11:13 PM on October 27, 2010
posted by wayland at 11:13 PM on October 27, 2010
Wayland: I was under the impression "all rights reserved" indicates the right to copy freely, to make derivative works, (among others), is held only by the copyright holder. Those are just some of the rights they reserve. I've been led to believe "all rights reserved" not only nullifies the CC license, but is the very antithesis of the CC license.
posted by inedible at 11:20 PM on October 27, 2010
posted by inedible at 11:20 PM on October 27, 2010
Just heard a bit on....uh...I think it was Planet Money (my podcast list has gotten kind of overpopulated) about how copying in the fashion world actually drives innovation, since the only way to stay ahead of the copiers is to continuously innovate. Of course, a big part of that innovation involves copying everyone else's innovations, and fashion isn't an area where massive expense is involved in producing the Next Big Thing. It doesn't actually cost much more (in terms of material and labor) for the Next Big Thing than it does to copy the Next Big Thing. Innovations consist, for the most part, of remixing and tweaking the Current Big Thing, and the perceived value of the Current Big Thing lies in it being distinguishable from the Last Big Thing which the copiers are now making.
Areas where the Next Big Thing involves a lot of effort and expense are probably well served by IP protections..although extending them too far, as in the case of drug companies getting a new patent on the same old drug just because they have added a new condition to its on-label list, is counterproductive.
Yeah, it was Planet Money #223, this week's episode. I was listening to it as I walked through Ross, the home of Last Year's Big Thing.
posted by Jimmy Havok at 12:22 AM on October 28, 2010
Areas where the Next Big Thing involves a lot of effort and expense are probably well served by IP protections..although extending them too far, as in the case of drug companies getting a new patent on the same old drug just because they have added a new condition to its on-label list, is counterproductive.
Yeah, it was Planet Money #223, this week's episode. I was listening to it as I walked through Ross, the home of Last Year's Big Thing.
posted by Jimmy Havok at 12:22 AM on October 28, 2010
Go Ahead, Take a Copy
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In Praise of Copying. A pdf of a book by Marcus Boon.
Boon's previous book is quite interesting: The Road of Excess: A History of Writers on Drugs.
posted by ovvl (14 comments total) [add to favorites] 3 users marked this as a favorite [!]
In Praise of Copying. A pdf of a book by Marcus Boon.
Boon's previous book is quite interesting: The Road of Excess: A History of Writers on Drugs.
posted by the aloha at 3:05 PM on October 28 [5 favorites +] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by vidur at 3:06 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by metaplectic at 3:12 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Boon also edited this John Giorno collection.
posted by roll truck roll at 3:13 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
In Praise of Copying. A pdf of a book by Marcus Boon.
Boon's previous book is quite interesting: The Road of Excess: A History of Writers on Drugs.
posted by the aloha at 2:05 PM on October 28 [4 favorites +] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by vidur at 2:06 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by metaplectic at 2:12 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Boon also edited this John Giorno collection.
posted by roll truck roll at 2:13 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
posted by Fiasco da Gama at 3:37 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
I don't like where this is going.
posted by Hargrimm at 3:41 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
I don't remix where this is HELLO OPERATOR GIVE ME
posted by haveanicesummer at 3:45 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by hermitosis at 3:53 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Oh, yeah. I'll copy the shit out of this. Baby. There's, like, a copy on my laptop and one on my iPad and iPhone and I might even put a copy on my personal website. And seed it on bitTorrent, just for the fuck of it. Maybe I'll even get around to reading it one day. Maybe. If I run out of lolcats or funny tweets to read or something. Whatever.
posted by chasing at 4:08 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
ditto chasing....not sure if this is readable yet, and i've been reading it for a while...
but to stay task:
um..copy joke? proxy! it's a bittersweet symphony?
posted by es_de_bah at 4:43 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
From page 1:
Copyright ©2010 by the President and Fellows of Harvard College
All rights reserved
What the large print giveth, the small print taketh away.
posted by inedible at 5:00 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Inedible, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The whole point of creative commons (as opposed to public domain) is that copyright can be retained while letting others do things with it.
posted by wayland at 5:13 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Wayland: I was under the impression "all rights reserved" indicates the right to copy freely, to make derivative works, (among others), is held only by the copyright holder. Those are just some of the rights they reserve. I've been led to believe "all rights reserved" not only nullifies the CC license, but is the very antithesis of the CC license.
posted by inedible at 5:20 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Just heard a bit on....uh...I think it was Planet Money (my podcast list has gotten kind of overpopulated) about how copying in the fashion world actually drives innovation, since the only way to stay ahead of the copiers is to continuously innovate. Of course, a big part of that innovation involves copying everyone else's innovations, and fashion isn't an area where massive expense is involved in producing the Next Big Thing. It doesn't actually cost much more (in terms of material and labor) for the Next Big Thing than it does to copy the Next Big Thing. Innovations consist, for the most part, of remixing and tweaking the Current Big Thing, and the perceived value of the Current Big Thing lies in it being distinguishable from the Last Big Thing which the copiers are now making.
Areas where the Next Big Thing involves a lot of effort and expense are probably well served by IP protections..although extending them too far, as in the case of drug companies getting a new patent on the same old drug just because they have added a new condition to its on-label list, is counterproductive.
Yeah, it was Planet Money #223, this week's episode. I was listening to it as I walked through Ross, the home of Last Year's Big Thing.
posted by Jimmy Havok at 6:22 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
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posted by Effigy2000 at 12:59 AM on October 28, 2010 [1 favorite]
October 28, 2010 2:58 PM RSS feed for this thread Subscribe
In Praise of Copying. A pdf of a book by Marcus Boon.
Boon's previous book is quite interesting: The Road of Excess: A History of Writers on Drugs.
posted by ovvl (14 comments total) [add to favorites] 3 users marked this as a favorite [!]
In Praise of Copying. A pdf of a book by Marcus Boon.
Boon's previous book is quite interesting: The Road of Excess: A History of Writers on Drugs.
posted by the aloha at 3:05 PM on October 28 [5 favorites +] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by vidur at 3:06 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by metaplectic at 3:12 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Boon also edited this John Giorno collection.
posted by roll truck roll at 3:13 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
In Praise of Copying. A pdf of a book by Marcus Boon.
Boon's previous book is quite interesting: The Road of Excess: A History of Writers on Drugs.
posted by the aloha at 2:05 PM on October 28 [4 favorites +] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by vidur at 2:06 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by metaplectic at 2:12 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Boon also edited this John Giorno collection.
posted by roll truck roll at 2:13 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
posted by Fiasco da Gama at 3:37 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
I don't like where this is going.
posted by Hargrimm at 3:41 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
I don't remix where this is HELLO OPERATOR GIVE ME
posted by haveanicesummer at 3:45 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
What just happened here?
posted by hermitosis at 3:53 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Oh, yeah. I'll copy the shit out of this. Baby. There's, like, a copy on my laptop and one on my iPad and iPhone and I might even put a copy on my personal website. And seed it on bitTorrent, just for the fuck of it. Maybe I'll even get around to reading it one day. Maybe. If I run out of lolcats or funny tweets to read or something. Whatever.
posted by chasing at 4:08 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
ditto chasing....not sure if this is readable yet, and i've been reading it for a while...
but to stay task:
um..copy joke? proxy! it's a bittersweet symphony?
posted by es_de_bah at 4:43 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
From page 1:
Copyright ©2010 by the President and Fellows of Harvard College
All rights reserved
What the large print giveth, the small print taketh away.
posted by inedible at 5:00 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Inedible, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The whole point of creative commons (as opposed to public domain) is that copyright can be retained while letting others do things with it.
posted by wayland at 5:13 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Wayland: I was under the impression "all rights reserved" indicates the right to copy freely, to make derivative works, (among others), is held only by the copyright holder. Those are just some of the rights they reserve. I've been led to believe "all rights reserved" not only nullifies the CC license, but is the very antithesis of the CC license.
posted by inedible at 5:20 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
Just heard a bit on....uh...I think it was Planet Money (my podcast list has gotten kind of overpopulated) about how copying in the fashion world actually drives innovation, since the only way to stay ahead of the copiers is to continuously innovate. Of course, a big part of that innovation involves copying everyone else's innovations, and fashion isn't an area where massive expense is involved in producing the Next Big Thing. It doesn't actually cost much more (in terms of material and labor) for the Next Big Thing than it does to copy the Next Big Thing. Innovations consist, for the most part, of remixing and tweaking the Current Big Thing, and the perceived value of the Current Big Thing lies in it being distinguishable from the Last Big Thing which the copiers are now making.
Areas where the Next Big Thing involves a lot of effort and expense are probably well served by IP protections..although extending them too far, as in the case of drug companies getting a new patent on the same old drug just because they have added a new condition to its on-label list, is counterproductive.
Yeah, it was Planet Money #223, this week's episode. I was listening to it as I walked through Ross, the home of Last Year's Big Thing.
posted by Jimmy Havok at 6:22 PM on October 28 [+] [!]
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posted by Effigy2000 at 12:59 AM on October 28, 2010 [1 favorite]
Oh I'm sorry but this is copying. Recursion is next door.
posted by nebulawindphone at 7:24 AM on October 28, 2010 [4 favorites]
posted by nebulawindphone at 7:24 AM on October 28, 2010 [4 favorites]
The signal to noise ratio in this thread is pretty crummy. Can we maybe avoid being oh-so-smart for a bit?
posted by djgh at 9:35 AM on October 28, 2010
posted by djgh at 9:35 AM on October 28, 2010
Boon vividly demonstrated these principles at the recent launch of "In Praise of Copying" at the Brooklyn bookstore Spoonbill and Sugartown. Instead of reading from his book, he read from a slew of books selected at random from Spoonbill's shelves. From these texts, seemingly unrelated to his own, he was able to reconstruct his general thesis in patchwork (and the theses of these books could themselves be reconstructed in other texts, and so on). A book, he demonstrated, is really a kind of Borgesian library—a mirrored, labyrinthine entity that communicates and shares despite our best efforts to wall it in.
I'm quite impressed that he managed to do that from a selection of random books.
posted by djgh at 9:38 AM on October 28, 2010
I'm quite impressed that he managed to do that from a selection of random books.
posted by djgh at 9:38 AM on October 28, 2010
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Boon's previous book is quite interesting: The Road of Excess: A History of Writers on Drugs.
posted by the aloha at 9:05 PM on October 27, 2010 [5 favorites]