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I'm conflicted. On the one hand I think it is hilarious that Flocka thought it was a bad thing and that his mom called WSHH to try to get the video taken down, saying it's a bad look for black people. Uh, what do you think your son's whole career is? Not even going to start in on his show of ultimate stupidity on B.E.T.
On the other hand, I about cried laughing because it was just too funny. I'm subject to believe sometimes in the people that say black folks can't go around always wondering what white people will think, every time they decide to do something.
Hip Hop wise, it kind of sucks right now because a lot of the popular rappers aren't about anything. Kanye's about all there is, and he's more showboating than anything positive for more than a half a second head turn when he does stuff like Diamonds from Sierra Leone, Crack Music or Jesus Walks.
The problem isn't portrayals like this, it's a lack of a wide variety of conceptions of black men. And the parody is so funny in the first place because for most of us it is incredibly far fetched in that Dave Chappelle's night out with Wayne Brady way. However, that does wrap back around to why Dave quit, because of the issue of some people having such a limited experience that they can't take it for what it is - a joke. It's one of those jokes a lot of us crack up laughing at, and then have that uncomfortable comedown cringe when we imagine the wrong people (those with limited experiences) watching it.
posted by cashman at 12:15 PM on October 29, 2010 [2 favorites]
On the other hand, I about cried laughing because it was just too funny. I'm subject to believe sometimes in the people that say black folks can't go around always wondering what white people will think, every time they decide to do something.
Hip Hop wise, it kind of sucks right now because a lot of the popular rappers aren't about anything. Kanye's about all there is, and he's more showboating than anything positive for more than a half a second head turn when he does stuff like Diamonds from Sierra Leone, Crack Music or Jesus Walks.
The problem isn't portrayals like this, it's a lack of a wide variety of conceptions of black men. And the parody is so funny in the first place because for most of us it is incredibly far fetched in that Dave Chappelle's night out with Wayne Brady way. However, that does wrap back around to why Dave quit, because of the issue of some people having such a limited experience that they can't take it for what it is - a joke. It's one of those jokes a lot of us crack up laughing at, and then have that uncomfortable comedown cringe when we imagine the wrong people (those with limited experiences) watching it.
posted by cashman at 12:15 PM on October 29, 2010 [2 favorites]
what in the a youtube comment with trenchant commentary i don't even
America2France: "shut the fuck up with all this "it's setting our people back" shit. No, what's setting us back is violence in our neighborhoods, unemployment, lack of education, AIDS. So instead of trying to get on a damn youtube video trying to be all black conscious about a fuckin parody, go pound the pavement on REAL issues that set us back and stop trying to come off all empathetic to the black cause about a gotdamn parody."
posted by boo_radley at 12:24 PM on October 29, 2010
America2France: "shut the fuck up with all this "it's setting our people back" shit. No, what's setting us back is violence in our neighborhoods, unemployment, lack of education, AIDS. So instead of trying to get on a damn youtube video trying to be all black conscious about a fuckin parody, go pound the pavement on REAL issues that set us back and stop trying to come off all empathetic to the black cause about a gotdamn parody."
posted by boo_radley at 12:24 PM on October 29, 2010
I agree, cashman. I just loved the ice cream truck break, hadn't seen the original Wakka video. The wrong people are going to take this parody the wrong way, for sure. Thanks OP for the context.
posted by Catblack at 12:29 PM on October 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Catblack at 12:29 PM on October 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
There is still no reason for the "N" word in any context, not anywhere, not any time. That is all.
posted by Seekerofsplendor at 12:34 PM on October 29, 2010
posted by Seekerofsplendor at 12:34 PM on October 29, 2010
> “We somewhat got a hood pass, we talked to some O.G.’s,” Mr. Davis said, referring to original gangsters."
I love the NT Times. That passage reminded me of a (PBS?) documentary I saw in the early '90s which attempted to explain the whole "rapping" thing to its audience. Part of it was videos with subtitled text to help viewers decode hip-hop slang ("Braggin' = Braggadocio").
posted by The Card Cheat at 12:35 PM on October 29, 2010
I love the NT Times. That passage reminded me of a (PBS?) documentary I saw in the early '90s which attempted to explain the whole "rapping" thing to its audience. Part of it was videos with subtitled text to help viewers decode hip-hop slang ("Braggin' = Braggadocio").
posted by The Card Cheat at 12:35 PM on October 29, 2010
ok this waka fucka whatever I dont even get it but thanks so much cashman for posting that link, I'd never seen the ice cream truck vid or heard the song and its AWESOME!!
posted by supermedusa at 12:36 PM on October 29, 2010
posted by supermedusa at 12:36 PM on October 29, 2010
This is a fourth-rate crib on "Damn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta," but leave it to Stanley Crouch to slam its concept rather than its quality.
posted by Kylio at 12:41 PM on October 29, 2010
posted by Kylio at 12:41 PM on October 29, 2010
thanks so much cashman for posting that link, I'd never seen the ice cream truck vid
You're welcome, supermedusa...but that was Catblack.
posted by cashman at 12:42 PM on October 29, 2010
You're welcome, supermedusa...but that was Catblack.
posted by cashman at 12:42 PM on October 29, 2010
Hahaha that was funny. The Michelle lookalike was great. I loved the quick shots, underplayed. Believe it or not, this video had a lot of subtlety.
This kind of thing could get beanplated all to hell and back, or just appreciated for the simple irony that it presents at first glance.
As for being taken the wrong way by the wrong people, that's what i liked about it. I can send this to my racist parents or my liberal friends. They'd all be traumatized for whatever reasons they would cherrypick - and that would be funny.
posted by Xoebe at 12:48 PM on October 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
This kind of thing could get beanplated all to hell and back, or just appreciated for the simple irony that it presents at first glance.
As for being taken the wrong way by the wrong people, that's what i liked about it. I can send this to my racist parents or my liberal friends. They'd all be traumatized for whatever reasons they would cherrypick - and that would be funny.
posted by Xoebe at 12:48 PM on October 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
Wow, that woman did look a lot like Michelle. I don't really think the guy looked or sounded all that much like Obama.
posted by delmoi at 12:59 PM on October 29, 2010
posted by delmoi at 12:59 PM on October 29, 2010
I can send this to my racist parents or my liberal friends. They'd all be traumatized for whatever
I'm pretty sure real racists would find this hilarious.
posted by delmoi at 1:00 PM on October 29, 2010
I'm pretty sure real racists would find this hilarious.
posted by delmoi at 1:00 PM on October 29, 2010
Wow. There are other versions too:
Throw'd "Hard In Paint feat. Big Tony": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nrgfPkEusQ
Tyga - Hard In The Paint http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPJrQDHtA5M&feature=related
posted by thylacine at 1:14 PM on October 29, 2010
Throw'd "Hard In Paint feat. Big Tony": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nrgfPkEusQ
Tyga - Hard In The Paint http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPJrQDHtA5M&feature=related
posted by thylacine at 1:14 PM on October 29, 2010
White people just don't understand.
posted by Michael Pemulis at 1:30 PM on October 29, 2010
posted by Michael Pemulis at 1:30 PM on October 29, 2010
supermedusa, yw. I felt I needed to cleanse my brain after watching both of those gangsta rap videos. I'll hold J5 up as a shining example of how good hip hop and rapping can be, anytime.
posted by Catblack at 2:37 PM on October 29, 2010
posted by Catblack at 2:37 PM on October 29, 2010
Aww, you're just saying that because they learned how to rhyme with words other than "nigga."
(Whatever happened to Chali 2na, anyway? That guy was one of the best MCs of his time, at least between Jurassic 5 and the Ozomatli album he appeared on... witty as hell and insanely funky and musical.)
posted by arto at 3:14 PM on October 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
(Whatever happened to Chali 2na, anyway? That guy was one of the best MCs of his time, at least between Jurassic 5 and the Ozomatli album he appeared on... witty as hell and insanely funky and musical.)
posted by arto at 3:14 PM on October 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
I blame Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission.
posted by chillmost at 4:11 PM on October 29, 2010
posted by chillmost at 4:11 PM on October 29, 2010
I blame the citizens, mostly.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 4:52 PM on October 29, 2010
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 4:52 PM on October 29, 2010
I think this is brilliant because the phrase 'hard in the paint' so aptly describes Obama:
To approach a problem, obstacle, or challenge with supreme confidence of success through a commitment to use all facilities available to one's self to achieve a goal. The term has etymological roots in the basketball parlance that describes an attempt to score in the crowded and highly contested area directly under and immediately adjacent to the raised hoop on a basketball court, or "painted" area. Shot attempts in this area are traditionally only successful when made with a strong conviction to score, skill, overpowering strength, or a combination thereof (i.d. "going hard").
When we saw Dason had put on his best suit and matching Tag Heuer timepiece, we knew he going hard in the paint to his job interview that afternoon.
via urban dictionary
If Obama doesn't go hard in the paint I don't know who does.
posted by Menomena at 7:28 PM on November 3, 2010
To approach a problem, obstacle, or challenge with supreme confidence of success through a commitment to use all facilities available to one's self to achieve a goal. The term has etymological roots in the basketball parlance that describes an attempt to score in the crowded and highly contested area directly under and immediately adjacent to the raised hoop on a basketball court, or "painted" area. Shot attempts in this area are traditionally only successful when made with a strong conviction to score, skill, overpowering strength, or a combination thereof (i.d. "going hard").
When we saw Dason had put on his best suit and matching Tag Heuer timepiece, we knew he going hard in the paint to his job interview that afternoon.
via urban dictionary
If Obama doesn't go hard in the paint I don't know who does.
posted by Menomena at 7:28 PM on November 3, 2010
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