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MetaTalk post: taz levels up
Hey, guys!! I'm here to say I've now seen the admin panel, and just like you always thought... it's full of stars.

I've also seen the anonymous question queue thingy, and just like they've always said, you totally can't tell who's posting. Not that I ever doubted... but you know. Will reveal more as I slowly, slyly penetrate the most sanctum of sanctorums.
posted to MetaTalk by taz at 12:03 PM on September 30, 2011
Is vacapinta still moderating?

vacapinta has always had a super-volunteer position here [he has a real day job but checks in at night weekdays] and he's still doing his thing but is basically not around weekends. restless_nomad is the main person on weekends, cortex and I are the main people weekdays (him usually earlier, me usually later), taz will be putting out fires and hopefully getting up to speed on answering contact form email and fixing... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 11:45 AM on September 30, 2011
Wait -- does holding A down work or not?

It works the way it worked in Mario: if you get past the first major World, holding A when you start the next game will start you at the first level of whatever world you got to. So in SMB, if you died in world 3-2 and did an A-restart, you'd start in 3-1. If you die in 1-4, you'll restart at 1-1 like starting a brand new game.

In FaveRunner, you can restart at the beginning of the Ask... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 2:14 PM on September 29, 2011
Can you do a MeFi version of Blobbo? I loved Blobbo.

I don't remember Blobbo, but I got this idea the other day for a game where you'd actually be running around in a crude, pixely rendition of an actual thread, picking up letters out of comments to spell words that would activate various abilities while bad guys were manifesting by causing the letters spelling their names to glow red and coalesce. But that's a lot more ambitious than "make... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 12:33 PM on September 29, 2011
Yeah cortex was debating where to put it since it's so clearly a sitewide thing but I was all "Really? You're going to make a post about anything favorite related to MeTa? I KILL YOU" and so this was the compromise. It sure is fun, isn't it?
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 12:17 PM on September 29, 2011
MetaTalk post: I bet you have a very funny reply to this topic that involves an emoticon
Right, so, are emoticons getting used more than they used to be?

Short answer #1: maybe a little bit in absolute numbers; it's been pretty steady since 2006 but there was a touch more in 2010. But wait!

Short answer #2: definitely not, proportional to overall commenting behavior on the site. It's been close to steady, if anything very slowly declining, since 2002.

Look For Yourself answer: here's a public google... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 11:44 AM on September 28, 2011
This war was lost when I heard tweens on the bus pronouncing "Lol."

I have students who say "Oh Em Gee" incessantly. This thing is much bigger than us, oh yes.
posted to MetaTalk by BinGregory at 5:59 PM on September 27, 2011
I disliked them for a while, and then found there are two things about them (as others have said):

They're an excellent, easy way to reduce the likelihood of misunderstandings.

They're friendly. They indicate a casual level of discourse that often reads to me as a gesture of friendship. I work at a university, and the faculty who throw an occasional smiley face in their emails are also the most pleasant to be around, and I don't think that's a... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by neuromodulator at 4:54 PM on September 27, 2011
In general, I like emoticons, at least in personal correspondence. Talking in text, without facial or voice cues, it can be *extremely* easy for people to take things the wrong way, and letting them know explicitly you mean something in a friendly way goes a long way towards diffusing tension.
posted to MetaTalk by drjimmy11 at 4:45 PM on September 27, 2011
Before the internet, few people wrote to a large crowd of people using direct speech. The only ones were newspaper columnists. Now that millions have public conversations online which are read by hundreds and thousands of people, punctuation indicating mood is extremely useful. Emoticons serve a useful purpose.
posted to MetaTalk by Kattullus at 4:42 PM on September 27, 2011
MetaTalk post: AskMeFi amendments
As much as I know the request from this is coming from every good place, allowing after the fact comment editing, especially to closed threads isn't something that will work within the way this site is set up to run.
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 2:16 PM on September 26, 2011
MetaTalk post: Teh Stupid, it hurts
Out of interest, how often does this happen? How many active users actually get "talked to"? And how many of these only get "talked to" once?

I wouldn't know how to count it up, it's kind of a fits-and-starts thing and not something we do any real quantitative record-keeping on. I'd say I probably talk to someone about "hey, not so much of that?" type stuff at least once a week, though sometimes its... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 12:18 PM on September 26, 2011
How about some actual consequences for repeat offenders? A lot of the time people might not even realize or care that their comments have been deleted, especially if they were drive-bys.

This mostly takes the form of talking to them about it in a "hey, this needs to not happen so much" vein. We try and keep an eye out for it when it comes to stuff like flags or deletions that fit a pattern, but to some extent I think people may do this in a... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 11:53 AM on September 26, 2011
Flag chaff comments promptly, and we can get at them more promptly. Individual users who consistently drop early snark/blather into threads will get talked to; folks who just do it once and don't do it again are kind of a "that sucked but problem solved" situation.

Not replying to early chaff is the other huge thing. It's one thing to be understandably annoyed by some bit of blarg or derailbait someone tossed into a thread, it's another to perpetuate the... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 9:34 AM on September 26, 2011
MetaTalk post: Thread deletion reason, please.
Yeah, I'm not seeing a lot of good in the offing here. Have a good Sunday, everybody.
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 10:47 AM on September 25, 2011
Sorry for how much I've helped keep it going.

This is an ongoing thing you do and I'd like you to do less of it, please.

Here's a meta topic: That thread was not even a borderline thread. Reasons for deletion are a courtesy to users and we try to be clear but sometimes we're in a pinch timewise or techwise and we are brief or possibly unclear. When the owner of a site removes your post early on a weekend morning, opening up... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 9:39 AM on September 25, 2011
For a while I thought that the Mods had taken a principled stand to protect free speech, even of an offensive nature, and as minutes went on I began to respect them more and more for not deleting the post, but it doesn't at all surprise me that ultimately Metafilter proved more conservative in its editorial practice than Reddit.

If we're talking about Reddit-as-a-whole, that's like being taller than a puddle. One of the constant refrains of folks... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 8:30 AM on September 25, 2011
The problem isn't the people that understand why the post was deleted. The problem is people who don't. It's good to have a more explicit reason(s) for the latter.

It's good but not vital, and with something flagged up the wazoo I'd say less vital yet. This was a poor post defended bizarrely within by the poster for no apparent reason that only lived as long as it did because it was posted in the middle of the night. It's not exactly a prime cut of... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 8:04 AM on September 25, 2011
Also, fuck reddit. If we're going to link to them for the thousandth time, it should be for something truly good and extraordinary. This wasn't it, now matter how many comments a thread has there.
posted to MetaTalk by mathowie at 7:22 AM on September 25, 2011
Now that I've woken up for this, here's some explanation.

That was the most flagged post in the last couple months. On the weekends we tend to have some gaps in mod coverage as we sleep and live our lives, etc, it's hard to ask everyone to be here 24/7 literally.

I woke up at 2am and fixed a few things, went back to bed and missed this post. I woke up again around 6am and saw the bazillion flags on my phone, tapped out something quick, and went... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by mathowie at 7:19 AM on September 25, 2011
MetaTalk post: Then is a close thread a close thread?
And yeah, there's a "close thread" link in the byline of the post in Admin view, right between our "edit" link and the faves/flags widgets.
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 9:39 AM on September 22, 2011
It's difficult for mods to comment in closed threads. So the process is usually: 1.) comment about closing. 2.) close the post. Only MetaTalk and IRL threads can be closed by a mod.

I'm sure a comment has snuck in under the wire here and there. There's probably only a few seconds between commenting and closing in most cases.
posted to MetaTalk by pb at 9:36 AM on September 22, 2011
MetaTalk post: languagehat: "my work here is done"
Are there other ways to pay such as money order?

Totally, it's in the FAQ and I email people directly who ask via the contact form. People can pay with a fiver sent directly to me or $5 worth of unused US postage. For people who say that $5 is a hardship, I tell them to send me a postcard. If it's someone from another country, I tell them to send me a postcard from their country, or some local currency that doesn't have to be worth anywhere near $5.... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 8:28 PM on September 15, 2011
Damn that languagehat, he is devilishly clever. He somehow or other managed to spawn an enormously long flameout thread without even showing up! Dude has the power. Add my name to the litany of those who hope this is just for a space of time, but sadly, I doubt it.

I don't think there was any golden age of mefi and I think mefi is still the best place I know to get in a discussion or find super things. But in truth, it used to feel more intimate to... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by madamjujujive at 8:02 PM on September 15, 2011
Since you mention it, cortex: let's say behavior x is the stuff that languagehat mentions. Do you feel it spiking, or improving, lately?

The signal-to-noise ratio thing is probably the most concrete thing in there I can really try and address, and I think there's a kernel of truth to the "more people = more people behaving obnoxiously" thing that's inescapably a challenge with a large group in a way that it's not with a much smaller group.... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 5:11 PM on September 15, 2011
"It's fucking frustrating to have to explain the 101 shit again and again and again."

This is one of the problems I encounter, where there are always new users who don't know the culture and who don't have the same collective experiences here who come into threads about difficult topics and start making comments that would be indistinguishable from trolling if they were made by longtime members. And while I've been one of the people who... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 6:54 PM on September 15, 2011
Because some of them felt betrayed by a community they trusted to be better than what was on display. And what can you possibly say to that other than to sympathise and hope they aren't too disillusioned?

Well sometimes I ask them if they're happy being here, on a site where there are shifting approaches to topics. I don't mean this in a "if you don't like it, here's the door" way but in a way where it's sort of useful to have a perspective... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 7:34 PM on September 15, 2011
Yeah, our position at this point is that favorites are here to stay. We will likely not be building any more tools on top of favorites. You can opt, as I have, to not view them as you use the site. We'd like people to make their peace with their existence. We understand if you can not. However, as much as everyone has a bunch of different ideas for tweaking them so they would be, in their opinion, less noxious for site interaction, we find that the drama and hostility and ragequitting that... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 1:03 PM on September 15, 2011
I feel that people with strong personalities and/or opinions that they stated frequently could be somewhat polarizing in that "you love them or you hate them" sort of way and are a much more noticable loss to the community than the people who drift in and out of here. If people are curious about why people left, they are welcome to drop us a note. We won't pass on the details on "oh soandso is back under a new username" reports, but we'd confirm/deny.... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 10:30 AM on September 15, 2011
A few things:

I know we always say flag it and move on, but part of me wishes that the mods would be just a touch more willing to delete the near inevitable "is this something I would have to have X to care about" comments and their ilk.

We have been trying to be active about this, both for literally "I don't care about this" type comments and more generally just non-productive dumb one-liners early in threads. But we can not... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 8:21 AM on September 15, 2011
Mods, are you going to do anything different now, or is this attrition acceptable to you?

It's a balance. I knew he left a ways back so I guess people can see what we've been doing and make their own decisions. We made a few prominent deletions over the last few days of ELECTION 2012 stuff that was intended, among other things, to keep the surly asshat tenor down here a little bit, but that sort of thing has a lot of people who don't like it as well.... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 8:04 AM on September 15, 2011
MetaTalk post: Mr. Fireman, bet you couldn't put me out if you tried.

You spelled 'kite' wrong.

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posted to MetaTalk by shakespeherian at 2:33 PM on September 14, 2011
MetaTalk post: How did the author of Javascript come to answer a newbie Javascript question?
It is impossible for me to harm or by omission of action, allow to be harmed, a metafilter member.
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 9:18 AM on September 14, 2011
MetaTalk post: I know where you're coming from
Keep in mind that $5 is not a huge barrier to entry and that's the only difference between a member and non-member. I'm not a huge fan of the fact that we show different things to members than we do the public because that line is fairly illusory. It's not a big deal for things like your email address or social network profiles, but a phone number is harder to change. I wouldn't feel great about it, but I'd be happy to code it up if that's the way we go.
posted to MetaTalk by pb at 7:15 PM on September 11, 2011
MetaTalk post: sorry i was made these purchase because a error...
Actually, at the last MaxFunCon, I met the folks behind Topatoco that do all the shirts for online comics sites and they said they'd love to handle MeFi shirts if I sent them some designs. I got sick of doing it all myself at home, maintaining inventory, printing receipts, and stuffing envelopes, so basically all that boring stuff is done for me and I still get a decent enough cut of the sale.

So basically we just need some new design ideas and we could theoretically... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by mathowie at 4:50 PM on September 11, 2011
I would like socks. Not puppets. real socks. I would like tilings of blue and grew with orange unvisited href colors.
posted to MetaTalk by bleary at 2:34 PM on September 11, 2011
If you're taking requests, a hoodie would be good. Maybe you've sold them before and I didn't notice. I'd wear it around the office (aka my living room) all the time.
posted to MetaTalk by feloniousmonk at 1:46 PM on September 11, 2011
Ask MeFi post: no one wants to fuck me
[OP, this thread is not therapy. Please do not treat the answers you are getting as suggestions that need to be shot down. Occasional updates are okay. Threadsitting and dismissing all answers, less okay.]
posted to Ask MetaFilter by jessamyn at 11:01 PM on September 8, 2011
MetaTalk post: Text not "MeFi" enough?!
"He laughed like an irresponsible fetus."

T. S. Eliot or maybe Ben Franklin, depending

So, I'm not klang and, klang, I pretty much agree that you could get more profit out of leaving the zings by the wayside if you're trying to accomplish anything here besides getting in zingers, but:

> You're trying to make people face facts that they want to ignore.

So tell me, which
... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 1:06 PM on September 2, 2011
I think you *should* consider the fact that the story is more important than the messenger though

Thing is, there are a whole lot of potential messengers here, and depending on the message and the potential presentation they might do a hell of a lot better job without weird baggage attached. If someone else wants to try tackling the story and doing a better job of it, they can do that; if no one decides to do so, so be it. Metafilter is not a news... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 8:34 PM on September 1, 2011
You owe me an apology, Matt.

Mark, here's your history here. You find outrageous news stories from dubious sources and drop them here with flame-bait style headlines and setups. You did this about President Bush so much you got banned. In the past we've had problems of you using "summary quotes" from stories where something inflammatory wasn't actually stated by anyone in the article but paraphrased by you.

In this... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by mathowie at 8:22 PM on September 1, 2011
Not so much the hand flapping and angry consensus.

I agree. Most posts go well. Check out the comment in the deleted post

You're trying to make people face facts that they want to ignore.

Many of us lead lives full of political involvement at a local and global level. Acting like MetaFilter has the same journalistic responsibility of a newspaper or other news-based site is... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 8:15 PM on September 1, 2011
I think by headline mathowie may be referring to the title: Abu Ghraib?! Worse. More like Mai Lai.

If you don't want important things on the Blue, well... I can make sure all my posts are "cool and interesting" fluff

Plenty of people make posts to the blue about important issues and even the horrific thigns that happen in wartime. Things that are important can always be presented in ways that do... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 7:43 PM on September 1, 2011
Sure. Here is your post. "OMG an apallingly shitty thing happened" posts aren't great for MeFi generally because all people can do is just sort of agree with each other and get upset and angry and flap their hands and then sometimes start making weird inappropriate jokes or USA SUCKS comments which aren't great jumping off points for discusison. Things that are so shocking that you need to add GRAPHIC NSFW tags to them generally fall into the category of things you should make a... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 7:09 PM on September 1, 2011
Mark, you've been banned several times from MeFi for ax grinding. You get much less leeway around here because you are pretty much a pro at dropping insane bombs of posts about the most controversial topics.

Make posts to MeFi because you found something cool and interesting, not so you can get some news in front of as many users as possible with a crazy headline.
posted to MetaTalk by mathowie at 7:05 PM on September 1, 2011
MetaTalk post: Who are MeFites?
In case people are curious, this was my response. > What is wrong with a discussion of limited vs. unlimited freedom of expression?

Rape is a very touchy topic that goes very very badly on MetaFilter. Your post was flagged enough times that I did not make a judgment call, I removed it because it was clearly not working out. If you want to talk about freedom of discussion, that's one thing. If you want to take about rape, that's another. Offering an oddly provocative "can... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by jessamyn at 6:01 AM on August 31, 2011
Ask MeFi post: Why did I find bread on my doorstep?
[I have deleted
the jokes
that were in
this thread

and which
you were
for a time when you thought I had no electricity

forgive me
they were so ripe
so deserving
good night.]

posted to Ask MetaFilter by jessamyn at 10:29 PM on August 29, 2011
MeFi post: No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.
I just heard some sad news on the Nerdist podcast - Slashdot founder Rob Malda was found retired on his homepage this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone stuck in 2001 will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his editorial work, there's no denying his contributions to e-culture. Truly an Internet icon.
posted to MetaFilter by cortex at 7:05 AM on August 25, 2011
MetaTalk post: Favourite Tags
This requested functionality is with regards to the main MetaFilter site/area.

ah, ok. Sure we can do that. Here's My MeFi. Test it out, report any bugs here, and when it looks good we'll make the "My MeFi" tab live for everyone.
posted to MetaTalk by pb at 8:46 AM on August 23, 2011
MetaTalk post: Flag, you're it.
That seems to call out for a "vexatious litigator" bit; 3,539 flags?! Either they really love this site, or really hate it.

That top flagger is someone who has been around for ten years, and is a likeable enough regular who appears to spend most but not all of their output in askme. Amortized over ten years, they've got about a flag a day, though really it's more like six years that flags have been around so more like 1.6 flags per day.... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by cortex at 7:47 AM on August 20, 2011
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