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March 10, 2022 10:37 AM Subscribe
YouTube: Amala Ratna Zandile Dlamini, aka Doja Cat, has been not-so-silently amassing hit after hit with her latest album Planet Her with not a -ton- of press. Check the youtube search query for 'Doja Cat' to see much of her videography, or her personal/official uploads + Insta.
I need to know more of this for trivia, but all I can ever remember is “Bitch I’m a cow”
posted by Going To Maine at 11:05 AM on March 10, 2022 [5 favorites]
posted by Going To Maine at 11:05 AM on March 10, 2022 [5 favorites]
I don't think I'm ever going to be a Doja Cat fan.
posted by yellowcandy at 11:10 AM on March 10, 2022 [5 favorites]
posted by yellowcandy at 11:10 AM on March 10, 2022 [5 favorites]
I need to know more of this for trivia, but all I can ever remember is “Bitch I’m a cow”
As a former person who breastfed children: REPRESENT.
posted by Silvery Fish at 11:18 AM on March 10, 2022 [2 favorites]
As a former person who breastfed children: REPRESENT.
posted by Silvery Fish at 11:18 AM on March 10, 2022 [2 favorites]
I don’t think I'm ever going to be a Doja Cat fan.
The reference to complainst about Doja Cat using the N-word (and there are other complaints too) feel like a very difficult road to go down, as her father is a black South Africa & she was raised in Los Angeles. Nothing is post racial in this world, but it certainly seems like her race is complex and going to always be construed in the way that casts her in the worst light. (This is true for all of us, I suppose.)
The slams on her for referring to Tyler the Creator using the F-word also feels a bit interesting. Tyler of course come out of the closet a few years ago, but I am myself still quite angry about his own comments about gay folks back when & -since I don’t particularly read any news about him- have no idea if he has since made nice with Tegan & Sara. He will always very much be the edgelord to me that he was when he first became famous, regardless of what he has become since.
Anyhoo, what I’m saying I suppose is that I want all of these nice edge lord / hype beast fashions and styles and cool looks but without the people going through that early twenties period where they act like jerks. I’m an old man, get off my lawn, etc. etc.
posted by Going To Maine at 11:56 AM on March 10, 2022 [10 favorites]
The reference to complainst about Doja Cat using the N-word (and there are other complaints too) feel like a very difficult road to go down, as her father is a black South Africa & she was raised in Los Angeles. Nothing is post racial in this world, but it certainly seems like her race is complex and going to always be construed in the way that casts her in the worst light. (This is true for all of us, I suppose.)
The slams on her for referring to Tyler the Creator using the F-word also feels a bit interesting. Tyler of course come out of the closet a few years ago, but I am myself still quite angry about his own comments about gay folks back when & -since I don’t particularly read any news about him- have no idea if he has since made nice with Tegan & Sara. He will always very much be the edgelord to me that he was when he first became famous, regardless of what he has become since.
Anyhoo, what I’m saying I suppose is that I want all of these nice edge lord / hype beast fashions and styles and cool looks but without the people going through that early twenties period where they act like jerks. I’m an old man, get off my lawn, etc. etc.
posted by Going To Maine at 11:56 AM on March 10, 2022 [10 favorites]
Very much not my thing and I’m not sure I would like her personally, but undeniably talented and catchy. “…Ain’t Shit” simply would not leave my head for days after I heard a coworker playing it in the wood shop, and even though I found the track rather excruciating (like a fucked up Mary Poppins making pornographic Disney music), the rapping was witty and funny. Whatever the taboo, kids are gonna break it in utterly stupid, often delightful, occasionally insightful ways. If online outrage timelines are how the fans make sense of it, I guess that’s fine? I can go read a book.
posted by ducky l'orange at 12:30 PM on March 10, 2022 [1 favorite]
posted by ducky l'orange at 12:30 PM on March 10, 2022 [1 favorite]
Thanks for the info - I already liked "Get Into It (Yuh)" and hope to find something else of hers I like as much.
posted by Peach at 1:15 PM on March 10, 2022
posted by Peach at 1:15 PM on March 10, 2022
I'm a big fan, this latest album especially has been on repeat often enough in my room. Great visuals for her videos and the songs themselves are all great and catchy, easy to get stuck in my head.
posted by GoblinHoney at 2:18 PM on March 10, 2022
posted by GoblinHoney at 2:18 PM on March 10, 2022
I will complain that I don’t think the cat in that video looks like a “Starscream”
posted by Going To Maine at 2:52 PM on March 10, 2022
posted by Going To Maine at 2:52 PM on March 10, 2022
More like a “Shaddam IV”
posted by Going To Maine at 2:52 PM on March 10, 2022 [2 favorites]
posted by Going To Maine at 2:52 PM on March 10, 2022 [2 favorites]
The issues with her are much deeper than an unfortunate use of a slur. She has made explicitly racist songs like "Dindu Nuffin" and she is known to socialize with and egg on white supremacist fans online. Her complicated racial background does not provide her cover for any of that.
posted by anansi at 4:14 PM on March 10, 2022 [5 favorites]
posted by anansi at 4:14 PM on March 10, 2022 [5 favorites]
I had no idea. Thank you for sharing that.
posted by joannemerriam at 7:47 PM on March 10, 2022
posted by joannemerriam at 7:47 PM on March 10, 2022
She has made explicitly racist songs like "Dindu Nuffin"
You ever actually listen to/read the lyrics to that song? Her defense is that it’s a reappropriation (of the title phrase, which is a racist 4chan meme in case anyone is unclear on the whole deal) and that seems… pretty defensible on the face of it. It’s pretty much a generic attempt at a rap boast song in the verses while the chorus repeats variations on the phrase with no particular object and leads up to “How much money could a dindu make/If a dindu did all the things that you wish to.” A deep satire? Not exactly. Ironic self-identification, though? Plausible from where I stand. Certainly not explicitly articulating anything explicitly racist.
posted by atoxyl at 1:09 AM on March 11, 2022 [1 favorite]
You ever actually listen to/read the lyrics to that song? Her defense is that it’s a reappropriation (of the title phrase, which is a racist 4chan meme in case anyone is unclear on the whole deal) and that seems… pretty defensible on the face of it. It’s pretty much a generic attempt at a rap boast song in the verses while the chorus repeats variations on the phrase with no particular object and leads up to “How much money could a dindu make/If a dindu did all the things that you wish to.” A deep satire? Not exactly. Ironic self-identification, though? Plausible from where I stand. Certainly not explicitly articulating anything explicitly racist.
posted by atoxyl at 1:09 AM on March 11, 2022 [1 favorite]
I really enjoy her videos - very creative and fun.
I will complain that I don’t think the cat in that video looks like a “Starscream”
"Get Into It" was directed by Mike Diva. He's been killing it recently. AND he's working for SNL now.
posted by JoeZydeco at 7:14 AM on March 11, 2022
I will complain that I don’t think the cat in that video looks like a “Starscream”
"Get Into It" was directed by Mike Diva. He's been killing it recently. AND he's working for SNL now.
posted by JoeZydeco at 7:14 AM on March 11, 2022
Ah, meatballs is a masterpiece
posted by Going To Maine at 8:27 AM on March 11, 2022
posted by Going To Maine at 8:27 AM on March 11, 2022
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