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I can attest that the California Golden Chanterelle is lovely on pizza
posted by supermedusa at 9:02 AM on December 10, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by supermedusa at 9:02 AM on December 10, 2023 [2 favorites]
Thanks! I haven’t seen much at all about these new laws and it’s good to know what’s going on here.
posted by njohnson23 at 9:11 AM on December 10, 2023
posted by njohnson23 at 9:11 AM on December 10, 2023
California is gradually getting to be a little slice o' Europe under the Dem trifecta!
posted by torokunai at 9:38 AM on December 10, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by torokunai at 9:38 AM on December 10, 2023 [2 favorites]
AB 1136: Sets up a retirement fund for mixed-martial arts fighters in California. Any MMA fighters who have fought in at least 39 rounds in the state will be eligible for retirement benefits starting at the age of 50.
That seemed kind of random, but apparently CA has had a retirement fund for boxers since the 80s. And I found this
The money for the fund will be generated in several ways, including through ticket sales for MMA events in California. The state is also working on selling vanity license plates related to MMA with all proceeds going toward the fund, per Foster.
posted by Gorgik at 9:41 AM on December 10, 2023 [4 favorites]
That seemed kind of random, but apparently CA has had a retirement fund for boxers since the 80s. And I found this
The money for the fund will be generated in several ways, including through ticket sales for MMA events in California. The state is also working on selling vanity license plates related to MMA with all proceeds going toward the fund, per Foster.
posted by Gorgik at 9:41 AM on December 10, 2023 [4 favorites]
California's minimum wage will increase to $16 an hour on January 1, 2024. The increase is triggered by a 2016 law that tied minimum wage increases to inflation.
Consider for a moment how outrageous it is that this isn't the default for setting minimum wage everywhere. The value of money is not a fixed thing, so what the hell are we doing fixing minimum wage and having to battle every few years to raise it? We are so abominable to poor people.
posted by mcstayinskool at 9:46 AM on December 10, 2023 [29 favorites]
Consider for a moment how outrageous it is that this isn't the default for setting minimum wage everywhere. The value of money is not a fixed thing, so what the hell are we doing fixing minimum wage and having to battle every few years to raise it? We are so abominable to poor people.
posted by mcstayinskool at 9:46 AM on December 10, 2023 [29 favorites]
well, that's also how you get Weimar-style wheelbarrow economies (but with the connivance of the central bank I guess)
posted by torokunai at 9:48 AM on December 10, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by torokunai at 9:48 AM on December 10, 2023 [1 favorite]
Consider for a moment how outrageous it is that this isn't the default for setting minimum wage everywhere.
In 16 states the min is $7.25 and a few others it's under $10. In a handful of states there isn't a minimum wage at all. Baffling that people vote these lawmakers into power.
posted by dobbs at 10:07 AM on December 10, 2023 [5 favorites]
In 16 states the min is $7.25 and a few others it's under $10. In a handful of states there isn't a minimum wage at all. Baffling that people vote these lawmakers into power.
posted by dobbs at 10:07 AM on December 10, 2023 [5 favorites]
The state is also working on selling vanity license plates related to MMA with all proceeds going toward the fund, per Foster.
Much, much more effective tool for preventing tailgaters than a "Baby on board" sticker
posted by Luminiferous Ether at 10:08 AM on December 10, 2023 [15 favorites]
Much, much more effective tool for preventing tailgaters than a "Baby on board" sticker
posted by Luminiferous Ether at 10:08 AM on December 10, 2023 [15 favorites]
(And don't look into minimum wages for tipped positions unless you want to get real upset. Psst: it's $2.13.)
posted by dobbs at 10:10 AM on December 10, 2023 [8 favorites]
posted by dobbs at 10:10 AM on December 10, 2023 [8 favorites]
Consider for a moment how outrageous it is that this isn't the default for setting minimum wage everywhere. The value of money is not a fixed thing
It's precisely because the value of money is not fixed that it doesn't make sense to set global or national minimum wages. Even cities here in CA set their own wage rates -- I just got a mailer that Santa Clara's minimum wage in 2024 is rising to $17.75. That money doesn't go as far as it would in say, Hutchinson, KS or Fayetteville, NC where rents are a third of what they are here. Conversely, Hawaii has a variety of logistical challenges sustaining a population, to the point that it ranks well on Per Capita Personal Income but falls to next to dead last in the ranking once adjusting for cost of living factors.
posted by pwnguin at 10:14 AM on December 10, 2023 [2 favorites]
It's precisely because the value of money is not fixed that it doesn't make sense to set global or national minimum wages. Even cities here in CA set their own wage rates -- I just got a mailer that Santa Clara's minimum wage in 2024 is rising to $17.75. That money doesn't go as far as it would in say, Hutchinson, KS or Fayetteville, NC where rents are a third of what they are here. Conversely, Hawaii has a variety of logistical challenges sustaining a population, to the point that it ranks well on Per Capita Personal Income but falls to next to dead last in the ranking once adjusting for cost of living factors.
posted by pwnguin at 10:14 AM on December 10, 2023 [2 favorites]
It's precisely because the value of money is not fixed that it doesn't make sense to set global or national minimum wages
Sure it does. Bake in interest rate changes into the law, so they frequently update without further haggling.
posted by mcstayinskool at 10:18 AM on December 10, 2023 [5 favorites]
Sure it does. Bake in interest rate changes into the law, so they frequently update without further haggling.
posted by mcstayinskool at 10:18 AM on December 10, 2023 [5 favorites]
It's precisely because the value of money is not fixed that it doesn't make sense to set global or national minimum wages.
I'm fairly certain that minimum wages are set because capitalism would otherwise allow McDonalds to pay their workers piece work wages equivalent to Spotify royalties. $0.00003 per burger served? Sounds fair to them!
That a minimum wage is set and then isn't tied to inflation so it also goes up is the insane part of this equation.
posted by hippybear at 10:27 AM on December 10, 2023 [11 favorites]
I'm fairly certain that minimum wages are set because capitalism would otherwise allow McDonalds to pay their workers piece work wages equivalent to Spotify royalties. $0.00003 per burger served? Sounds fair to them!
That a minimum wage is set and then isn't tied to inflation so it also goes up is the insane part of this equation.
posted by hippybear at 10:27 AM on December 10, 2023 [11 favorites]
I am really excited for this one assuming the inevitable court challenges don't disrupt it:
We won't reverse all of that, the taxes will still be itemized and we'll still be tipping. And this bill seems to be online purchases only. I wish we had the European model where you just pay the stated price.
(To head off the outrage: I absolutely support paying workers a living wage. It should be paid directly, not through some piecemeal system of confusing fees and semi-voluntary tips. Most of the Western world operates this way, America is exceptional.)
posted by Nelson at 10:34 AM on December 10, 2023 [12 favorites]
SB 478: Prohibits those hidden fees that don't show up until you are about to finalize a purchase online. Starting July 1, 2024, the law requires websites and apps to display the true cost of an item or service, such as lodging, tickets for live events and food delivery fees.All of California, but particularly San Francisco, is full of bullshit fees tacked on to bills. Every food item you order comes with a 3-10% "SF Mandate" fee which is neither a mandate nor an SF thing. It's common to see random "fuel surcharge" for something delivered that was added at some point when the price of gas goes up. Add in taxes and tips and mandatory service fees and what you pay in a restaurant is often 30-40% more than the price of the items on the menu. It's ridiculous.
We won't reverse all of that, the taxes will still be itemized and we'll still be tipping. And this bill seems to be online purchases only. I wish we had the European model where you just pay the stated price.
(To head off the outrage: I absolutely support paying workers a living wage. It should be paid directly, not through some piecemeal system of confusing fees and semi-voluntary tips. Most of the Western world operates this way, America is exceptional.)
posted by Nelson at 10:34 AM on December 10, 2023 [12 favorites]
It's precisely because the value of money is not fixed that it doesn't make sense to set global or national minimum wages.
The federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour.
posted by praemunire at 10:47 AM on December 10, 2023 [4 favorites]
The federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour.
posted by praemunire at 10:47 AM on December 10, 2023 [4 favorites]
(And don't look into minimum wages for tipped positions unless you want to get real upset. Psst: it's $2.13.)
Not in California -- there's no lower-tier tipped minimum wage in CA.
posted by tclark at 10:53 AM on December 10, 2023 [17 favorites]
Not in California -- there's no lower-tier tipped minimum wage in CA.
posted by tclark at 10:53 AM on December 10, 2023 [17 favorites]
Minnesota increases minimum wage on a yearly basis, too. I am pleased to see the definition of large and small employers is not based on headcount, but on quarterly revenue. I believe it used to be headcount based.
posted by soelo at 12:13 PM on December 10, 2023 [8 favorites]
posted by soelo at 12:13 PM on December 10, 2023 [8 favorites]
AB 2282: Increases the penalties for people who use hate symbols such as swastikas, nooses or desecrated crosses. It also bans these symbols in schools, cemeteries, places of worship, workplaces, private property, public spaces and facilities.
Sure hope there is language allowing say the non Nazi use of swastikas and other dual meaning iconography.
Removes regulatory barriers to allow churches, religious organizations and non-profit colleges to build affordable housing on their land.
This is just great. Shouldn't be hard to get some religious organization on board with an affordable housing project.
The law applies to nursing assistants, medical technicians and janitorial workers.
Yay.
posted by Mitheral at 1:25 PM on December 10, 2023 [2 favorites]
Sure hope there is language allowing say the non Nazi use of swastikas and other dual meaning iconography.
Removes regulatory barriers to allow churches, religious organizations and non-profit colleges to build affordable housing on their land.
This is just great. Shouldn't be hard to get some religious organization on board with an affordable housing project.
The law applies to nursing assistants, medical technicians and janitorial workers.
Yay.
posted by Mitheral at 1:25 PM on December 10, 2023 [2 favorites]
I was mistaken, apparently SB 478 might apply to restaurants. And it might not apply to DoorDash and UberEats, where it is sorely needed.
posted by Nelson at 1:37 PM on December 10, 2023
posted by Nelson at 1:37 PM on December 10, 2023
Some of them are a bit, /eyebrowraise, and you can feel the right-wing going after a lot of things...
But despite how much I dislike being in much of California, (just too many people, and the freeways, and the beige of so much of it, and the financial inequality right there in your face)...
Well done California
posted by Windopaene at 1:51 PM on December 10, 2023 [4 favorites]
But despite how much I dislike being in much of California, (just too many people, and the freeways, and the beige of so much of it, and the financial inequality right there in your face)...
Well done California
posted by Windopaene at 1:51 PM on December 10, 2023 [4 favorites]
Also: The Democratic party will make everyone's life better. Ponder that assholes
posted by Windopaene at 1:52 PM on December 10, 2023 [7 favorites]
posted by Windopaene at 1:52 PM on December 10, 2023 [7 favorites]
As a Californian, I've been reading the summary of new laws every December since the 2000s, and it rarely fails to make me grateful for our (imperfect, but mostly pretty enlightened) legislature. All governments warrant scrutiny, but not all warrant cynicism.
posted by aws17576 at 2:04 PM on December 10, 2023 [17 favorites]
posted by aws17576 at 2:04 PM on December 10, 2023 [17 favorites]
“ fast-food council”— I’d hope these members would have worked in fast-food joints, but alas.
posted by Ideefixe at 3:08 PM on December 10, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by Ideefixe at 3:08 PM on December 10, 2023 [1 favorite]
That money doesn't go as far as it would in say, Hutchinson, KS or Fayetteville, NC
Except we're talking about temporal adjustments and not spatial (ie. local cost-of-living adjustments). It can be - indeed *should be*, I'd say - that there are minimum wage adjustments over time without necessitating spatial parity.
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 3:13 PM on December 10, 2023 [1 favorite]
Except we're talking about temporal adjustments and not spatial (ie. local cost-of-living adjustments). It can be - indeed *should be*, I'd say - that there are minimum wage adjustments over time without necessitating spatial parity.
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 3:13 PM on December 10, 2023 [1 favorite]
Except we're talking about temporal adjustments
I recognize many of you are talking (now) about inflation indexing, but that was not what the quote I responded to suggested.
edit: or maybe it was and i should just go enjoy my weekend.
posted by pwnguin at 4:12 PM on December 10, 2023
I recognize many of you are talking (now) about inflation indexing, but that was not what the quote I responded to suggested.
edit: or maybe it was and i should just go enjoy my weekend.
posted by pwnguin at 4:12 PM on December 10, 2023
Some of them are a bit, /eyebrowraise, and you can feel the right-wing going after a lot of things...
Yup. And nationally the right-wing hates California because progressive policies that start there get exported in its massive cultural output. It is everything wrong with America and it’s taking the rest of the country down with it.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 6:55 PM on December 10, 2023 [1 favorite]
Yup. And nationally the right-wing hates California because progressive policies that start there get exported in its massive cultural output. It is everything wrong with America and it’s taking the rest of the country down with it.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 6:55 PM on December 10, 2023 [1 favorite]
No no no. I'm sorry. That's me, me and my little f--gity fucking, no matter what state might I live in. I was told, on good authority, that 9/11 was and continues to be my fault, and I'm not going to let some gigantic state like California and its liberal policies take away what is rightfully my due because of my same sex orgasms.
posted by hippybear at 7:30 PM on December 10, 2023 [3 favorites]
posted by hippybear at 7:30 PM on December 10, 2023 [3 favorites]
On the other hand throughout the 80’s and 90’s Hollywood had started portraying homosexuals as regular people just living their lives, and you know much God hates that kind of thing. Perhaps you could share the credit.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 8:38 PM on December 10, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 8:38 PM on December 10, 2023 [1 favorite]
Honestly the first time I really felt like Hollywood portrayed homosexuals as regular people was the film Longtime Companion, which was far enough into AIDS that a major plot point involved a partner sitting at his other half's bedside begging him to let go of life because his clinging on was too painful.
Most of the portrayals before that involved complications about drugs or lawbreaking or something else... this was the first that was just... that.
But let's not make this thread about that. This thread is about CA laws coming into effect in just a few weeks here and now!
posted by hippybear at 9:04 PM on December 10, 2023 [1 favorite]
Most of the portrayals before that involved complications about drugs or lawbreaking or something else... this was the first that was just... that.
But let's not make this thread about that. This thread is about CA laws coming into effect in just a few weeks here and now!
posted by hippybear at 9:04 PM on December 10, 2023 [1 favorite]
So I’m curious. For those of us not lucky enough to live in the socialist paradise of the Left Coast…. Will any of these laws spill over into nationwide changes in corporate policy? I’m thinking of the digital privacy stuff. Do we think companies will be able to carve out separate policies for California customers, or will they just have to do this for everyone?
posted by Ishbadiddle at 3:22 AM on December 11, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by Ishbadiddle at 3:22 AM on December 11, 2023 [1 favorite]
The online good things will be geofenced, or based on the address you put in when you register for a service. You can see this in action on many sites, where if you change your address to California, a one-click-unsubscribe/cancel button magically appears where there previously were layers of dark patterns.
posted by rockindata at 4:24 AM on December 11, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by rockindata at 4:24 AM on December 11, 2023 [2 favorites]
Plenty of other states have enacted privacy policies lately. At my company, we've been told not to push back on data deletion requests because the person may have moved to California or another state where a similar right applies and we did something similar with the EU privacy law as well. The volume of requests has been so minimal that this is not hard to do.
I doubt this is the case for our customer facing apps, though.
posted by soelo at 6:31 AM on December 11, 2023 [1 favorite]
I doubt this is the case for our customer facing apps, though.
posted by soelo at 6:31 AM on December 11, 2023 [1 favorite]
So I’m curious. For those of us not lucky enough to live in the socialist paradise of the Left Coast…. Will any of these laws spill over into nationwide changes in corporate policy?
Some pressures on companies and states:
Some pressures on companies and states:
- The negation of non-compete contracts will give California a hiring advantage, particularly because it negates existing non-compete contracts people in other states are already living with.
- The new minimum wage not only makes California (slightly) more liveable for people who work at that wage level but makes moving away that much less appetizing -- even if you move to a state with lower costs, taking a 50% cut in pay is gonna hurt. Same thing for sick days and grief relief.
- Hard to say about single gender bathrooms, but it does reduce costs when building new facilities and if California does it with no issues....
- Right to Repair makes things harder on manufacturers but depending on how popular it becomes with customers ("buying from California means you don't have to throw things out when they break") it may spread.
- Not strictly corporate, but the law prohibiting the state from cooperating with states that want to prosecute for the mailing of abortion drugs will likely be widely adopted once it survives the inevitable challenge in Federal courts.
- A program that allows migrant workers to exist in the U.S. without Federal prosecution but provides no path to citizenship will be of interest to all of the border states, due to both the reduction in illegal border crossings and of course the continued access to cheap labor.
California's privacy law the CCPA is a real thing that really works. I regularly get a special page on a webapp notifying me of my extra rights as a Californian, usually with some sort of button to press to get their surveillance apparatus to detach a little bit. soelo's right that there are other states with useful online privacy laws too. In the recent privacy debacle at Plex we learned that they have a special opt-out for ad tracking that they will only let you use if you're in one of 15 states: California Colorado Connecticut Virginia Utah Indiana Iowa Montana Oregon Tennessee Texas Massachusettes New Jersey Pennsylvania Deleware. (Typos theirs). Details of the laws in each state no doubt vary. The real gold standard for this kind of law though is Europe's GDPR.
This article is a bit confusing btw; the CCPA has been in force since 2018. It keeps getting updated though. What is coming in 2024 with Proposition 24 is the California Privacy Rights Act (CPRA), which extends the the rights and penalties and creates a California Privacy Protection Agency.
posted by Nelson at 8:06 AM on December 11, 2023 [2 favorites]
This article is a bit confusing btw; the CCPA has been in force since 2018. It keeps getting updated though. What is coming in 2024 with Proposition 24 is the California Privacy Rights Act (CPRA), which extends the the rights and penalties and creates a California Privacy Protection Agency.
posted by Nelson at 8:06 AM on December 11, 2023 [2 favorites]
I definitely get a wide variety of popups re: cookies. Some allow me to hand choose which I allow and which I don't want to, some have "accept all" and "reject all" buttons, some try to be extremely misleading as to what you are selecting, some websites are essentially "we use cookies and you don't really get an option to not, click on this button to continue reading or else just leave," some make me want to log into something in order to set my cookies...it's all over the map as to what you get.
posted by jenfullmoon at 11:08 AM on December 11, 2023
posted by jenfullmoon at 11:08 AM on December 11, 2023
What you get varies but is somewhat shaped by laws. The GDPR is the stricter requirement and you have it to thank if you see a "reject all" button and/or a page that lets you make specific choices with the defaults being opted out. Some sites have California-specific UIs for the CCPA. Those often lack the "reject all" and default to opted in, because our law doesn't quite have the same teeth the European one does. But it's at least something. California's right to have your data deleted is also part of the CCPA and quite effective. I've invoked it a few times in support messages and every single time the company has complied. (Or so I think...)
rockindata's tip to change your address is useful for non-Californians, btw. That's one way to unsubscribe from, say, the New York Times without having to make a phone call to some annoying customer retention agent. That follows from our automatic renewal law which was last updated in 2021. I don't think anything in it changes in 2024.
California, proving consumer protection regulation actually works! (Sometimes.) Now if we could only get a first world electricity supply infrastructure...
posted by Nelson at 11:18 AM on December 11, 2023
rockindata's tip to change your address is useful for non-Californians, btw. That's one way to unsubscribe from, say, the New York Times without having to make a phone call to some annoying customer retention agent. That follows from our automatic renewal law which was last updated in 2021. I don't think anything in it changes in 2024.
California, proving consumer protection regulation actually works! (Sometimes.) Now if we could only get a first world electricity supply infrastructure...
posted by Nelson at 11:18 AM on December 11, 2023
hate symbols such as swastikas, nooses or desecrated crosses
Hmmmm, the black metal album art scene is gonna have to get some lawyers on this... (the NSBM scene dealing with earlier line items can go fuck itself, of course)
posted by FatherDagon at 11:24 AM on December 11, 2023
Hmmmm, the black metal album art scene is gonna have to get some lawyers on this... (the NSBM scene dealing with earlier line items can go fuck itself, of course)
posted by FatherDagon at 11:24 AM on December 11, 2023
> well, that's also how you get Weimar-style wheelbarrow economies (but with the connivance of the central bank I guess)
indexing the minimum wage to inflation will not, sadly, lead to hyperinflation.
but also: inflation is a measure of how valuable the present is compared to the past. hyperinflation is a mass transfer of power from people who own things from the past to people who do things in the present, carried out through massively increasing the value of present work and present benefits. at least three cheers for hyperinflation, the closest thing we've got to a jubilee.
moreover: one of the nice things about digital technology is that for the most part money is just bits these days, and so all the wheelbarrows full of money you could ever need can fit in your pocket. shoot, if you don't like representing cash values using scientific notation we could establish a nightly revalue, with the last few zeroes in everyone's bank accounts rounded off at midnight.
posted by bombastic lowercase pronouncements at 11:33 AM on December 11, 2023 [1 favorite]
indexing the minimum wage to inflation will not, sadly, lead to hyperinflation.
but also: inflation is a measure of how valuable the present is compared to the past. hyperinflation is a mass transfer of power from people who own things from the past to people who do things in the present, carried out through massively increasing the value of present work and present benefits. at least three cheers for hyperinflation, the closest thing we've got to a jubilee.
moreover: one of the nice things about digital technology is that for the most part money is just bits these days, and so all the wheelbarrows full of money you could ever need can fit in your pocket. shoot, if you don't like representing cash values using scientific notation we could establish a nightly revalue, with the last few zeroes in everyone's bank accounts rounded off at midnight.
posted by bombastic lowercase pronouncements at 11:33 AM on December 11, 2023 [1 favorite]
For people with questions, if you google the bill number, you'll get a leginfo.legislature.ca.gov link that takes you to the text of the bill, as well as floor analyses, which can usually answer most of the basic questions about implementation and exact language, usually including a non-partisan analysis on both budgetary and policy implications.
For example, if you wanted to know whether the Fast Food Council includes anyone who has worked at a fast food restaurant, inside the bill's text, you'd find:
For example, if you wanted to know whether the Fast Food Council includes anyone who has worked at a fast food restaurant, inside the bill's text, you'd find:
(1) The Fast Food Council is hereby established within the Department of Industrial Relations and shall consist of the following nine voting members:posted by klangklangston at 2:21 PM on December 11, 2023
(A) Two representatives of the fast food restaurant industry.
(B) Two representatives of fast food restaurant franchisees or restaurant owners.
(C) Two representatives of fast food restaurant employees.
(D) Two representatives of advocates for fast food restaurant employees.
(E) One unaffiliated member of the public who is not an owner, franchisee, officer, or employee in the fast food industry; who is not an employee or officer of a labor organization or a member of a labor organization representing fast food restaurant employees; and who has not received income from the fast food industry or any labor organization for a period of two years prior to appointment.
(2) In addition to the voting members, the council shall include the following nonvoting members:
(A) One representative from the Department of Industrial Relations.
(B) One representative from the Governor’s Office of Business and Economic Development.
(3) The Governor shall appoint the representatives of fast food restaurant employees, fast food restaurant franchisees or restaurant owners, the fast food restaurant industry, and the member of the public. The Speaker of the Assembly and the Senate Committee on Rules shall each appoint one representative of an advocate for fast food restaurant employees.
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