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Dune 2 [Trailer][YouTube] The saga continues as award-winning filmmaker Denis Villeneuve embarks on “Dune: Part Two,” the next chapter of Frank Herbert’s celebrated novel Dune.
👀 credit sheet at the end includes Christopher Walken. IMDB confirms he will be playing Emperor Shaddam IV
posted by mcstayinskool at 9:48 AM on May 3, 2023 [20 favorites]
posted by mcstayinskool at 9:48 AM on May 3, 2023 [20 favorites]
That's as bold a choice as Jose Ferrer for Emperor. Actually, that's weirder, which is wonderful
posted by drewbage1847 at 9:50 AM on May 3, 2023 [6 favorites]
posted by drewbage1847 at 9:50 AM on May 3, 2023 [6 favorites]
Christopher Walken as the Emperor Shaddam IV?! Awesome!
Sniff. Makes me think of Salvador Dali...
posted by doctornemo at 9:54 AM on May 3, 2023 [4 favorites]
Sniff. Makes me think of Salvador Dali...
posted by doctornemo at 9:54 AM on May 3, 2023 [4 favorites]
I am ready. May his passage cleanse the world.
posted by jquinby at 9:58 AM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by jquinby at 9:58 AM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
Forwarded this trailer to one of my girlfriends because she loves her some Tippytoes Chardonnay.
I enjoyed the first one--I mean, Oscar Isaac is a Hot Dad Dot Com, FFS--and will likely enjoy this one. I have never read the books and I don't plan to, so here is another instance where Shepherd answers questions I might have about the internal mythology and plot.
posted by Kitteh at 10:00 AM on May 3, 2023 [3 favorites]
I enjoyed the first one--I mean, Oscar Isaac is a Hot Dad Dot Com, FFS--and will likely enjoy this one. I have never read the books and I don't plan to, so here is another instance where Shepherd answers questions I might have about the internal mythology and plot.
posted by Kitteh at 10:00 AM on May 3, 2023 [3 favorites]
2UNE
posted by phong3d at 10:13 AM on May 3, 2023 [32 favorites]
posted by phong3d at 10:13 AM on May 3, 2023 [32 favorites]
You wait all year for a Dune 2 trailer post and then two come along at the same time!
posted by chavenet at 10:13 AM on May 3, 2023 [3 favorites]
posted by chavenet at 10:13 AM on May 3, 2023 [3 favorites]
Tim Blake Nelson is in the new one, and though he doesn't have a character name attached he seems like a good bet for Fenring.
posted by whir at 10:16 AM on May 3, 2023 [3 favorites]
posted by whir at 10:16 AM on May 3, 2023 [3 favorites]
(S)And Another Thing...
posted by lumensimus at 10:16 AM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by lumensimus at 10:16 AM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
-the arena fight - not count Fenring?
Shouldn't be.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 10:33 AM on May 3, 2023
Shouldn't be.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 10:33 AM on May 3, 2023
Oh, also, YAAAAAAAY!
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 10:34 AM on May 3, 2023
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 10:34 AM on May 3, 2023
I assume that the new very smooth man is Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen. I guess they wanted a more uniform appearance for the whole family.
posted by confluency at 10:35 AM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by confluency at 10:35 AM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
Like the first film, it looks austere and French-Canadian...
posted by Jessica Savitch's Coke Spoon at 10:37 AM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by Jessica Savitch's Coke Spoon at 10:37 AM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
i hope the cineplex near me does the 1/2 double feature thing.
posted by j_curiouser at 10:46 AM on May 3, 2023 [3 favorites]
posted by j_curiouser at 10:46 AM on May 3, 2023 [3 favorites]
Is it just me, or does this feel like we should be expecting a surprise part 3?
(I guess it's more likely that everything about the movie is so FX-heavy that they only have coverage of a few events trailer-ready.)
posted by praemunire at 10:49 AM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
(I guess it's more likely that everything about the movie is so FX-heavy that they only have coverage of a few events trailer-ready.)
posted by praemunire at 10:49 AM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
Chani, looking impossibly hot, to Paul: "Have you ever had a dream about your first ride?" (Yes, only mine looked like Sting in metal underwear.)
posted by Nelson at 10:49 AM on May 3, 2023 [14 favorites]
posted by Nelson at 10:49 AM on May 3, 2023 [14 favorites]
Like the first film, it looks austere and French-Canadian...
Yeah, pretty strong Juste Pour Rire Gags vibes
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:52 AM on May 3, 2023 [8 favorites]
Yeah, pretty strong Juste Pour Rire Gags vibes
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:52 AM on May 3, 2023 [8 favorites]
You wait all year for a Dune 2 trailer post and then two come along at the same time!
Ironically for Dune, when it rains it pours!
posted by Greg_Ace at 10:53 AM on May 3, 2023 [13 favorites]
Ironically for Dune, when it rains it pours!
posted by Greg_Ace at 10:53 AM on May 3, 2023 [13 favorites]
I am seeing the future, but is this one the golden path?
posted by meinvt at 10:59 AM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by meinvt at 10:59 AM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
and then two come along at the same time!
We could describe that phenomenon as... Children of Dune.
posted by doctornemo at 11:05 AM on May 3, 2023 [8 favorites]
We could describe that phenomenon as... Children of Dune.
posted by doctornemo at 11:05 AM on May 3, 2023 [8 favorites]
is this one the golden path?
Let me check with Moneo.
posted by doctornemo at 11:05 AM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
Let me check with Moneo.
posted by doctornemo at 11:05 AM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
Dune 2: Dunes
posted by The Card Cheat at 11:07 AM on May 3, 2023 [18 favorites]
posted by The Card Cheat at 11:07 AM on May 3, 2023 [18 favorites]
Dune 2: Electric Dunealoo.
> I assume that the new very smooth man is Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen.
That's Elvis! (Austin Butler). Curious if he will adopt a new accent post-Dune. A Dunecent.
2021 was a dark year for me and although this seems insane to say: the prospect of the first Villeneuve Dune kept me going. Irrationally excited about twink Muaddib riding the worm.
Speaking of which: "includes Christopher Walken".
It probably won't fit the general mood but I want nothing more than for him to say the words: "walk without rhythm so you don't attract the worm" while doing a little dance. It would show that everything is right in the world.
posted by dis_integration at 11:13 AM on May 3, 2023 [20 favorites]
> I assume that the new very smooth man is Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen.
That's Elvis! (Austin Butler). Curious if he will adopt a new accent post-Dune. A Dunecent.
2021 was a dark year for me and although this seems insane to say: the prospect of the first Villeneuve Dune kept me going. Irrationally excited about twink Muaddib riding the worm.
Speaking of which: "includes Christopher Walken".
It probably won't fit the general mood but I want nothing more than for him to say the words: "walk without rhythm so you don't attract the worm" while doing a little dance. It would show that everything is right in the world.
posted by dis_integration at 11:13 AM on May 3, 2023 [20 favorites]
Is it just me, or does this feel like we should be expecting a surprise part 3?
I got the same feeling based on the limited scenes shown. The first one made 400 million on a 165 million budget and apparently it's done pretty well post-theater, so a third part does sound like something the studio would go for.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 11:17 AM on May 3, 2023
I got the same feeling based on the limited scenes shown. The first one made 400 million on a 165 million budget and apparently it's done pretty well post-theater, so a third part does sound like something the studio would go for.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 11:17 AM on May 3, 2023
I want nothing more than for him to say the words: "walk without rhythm so you don't attract the worm"
But he needs to say it using the same inflection he used in Pulp Fiction telling the story of the watch
posted by Insert Clever Name Here at 11:36 AM on May 3, 2023 [6 favorites]
But he needs to say it using the same inflection he used in Pulp Fiction telling the story of the watch
posted by Insert Clever Name Here at 11:36 AM on May 3, 2023 [6 favorites]
DUNE, then N rotates right as the DU and E fade.
posted by emelenjr at 11:41 AM on May 3, 2023 [11 favorites]
posted by emelenjr at 11:41 AM on May 3, 2023 [11 favorites]
should be expecting a surprise part 3?
I would love to see someone adapt Dune Messiah as the complex, surprising tragedy it is.
posted by doctornemo at 11:43 AM on May 3, 2023 [16 favorites]
I would love to see someone adapt Dune Messiah as the complex, surprising tragedy it is.
posted by doctornemo at 11:43 AM on May 3, 2023 [16 favorites]
It could certainly use 3 movies to capture the book. I'd rather a third film than a rushed feeling second film.
posted by doctor_negative at 11:45 AM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by doctor_negative at 11:45 AM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
Ahh, now I feel sad that our split sequel threads have disappeared into the maw of Shai-hulud.
posted by drewbage1847 at 11:48 AM on May 3, 2023 [4 favorites]
posted by drewbage1847 at 11:48 AM on May 3, 2023 [4 favorites]
Ironically for Dune, when it rains it pours!
Maybe not so ironic!
posted by tclark at 11:48 AM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
Maybe not so ironic!
posted by tclark at 11:48 AM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
Don't forget the (slightly mis-timed) video-game tie-in!
posted by genpfault at 11:55 AM on May 3, 2023
posted by genpfault at 11:55 AM on May 3, 2023
I'd rather a third film than a rushed feeling second film.
As a I recall from the book, the climatic final did feel rather rushed after a long period introducing Paul training with the freeman and lady Jessica’s transformation. I feel like if you split it, the second of 3 movies would be really slow-lots of myth building with limited payoff. I say do it in 2 and then start on sequels
posted by CostcoCultist at 11:56 AM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
As a I recall from the book, the climatic final did feel rather rushed after a long period introducing Paul training with the freeman and lady Jessica’s transformation. I feel like if you split it, the second of 3 movies would be really slow-lots of myth building with limited payoff. I say do it in 2 and then start on sequels
posted by CostcoCultist at 11:56 AM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
I thought the Christopher Walken casting was long known ?
posted by Pendragon at 12:05 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by Pendragon at 12:05 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
then start on sequels
Do you think we will get to God Emperor of Dune ?
posted by Pendragon at 12:07 PM on May 3, 2023 [7 favorites]
Do you think we will get to God Emperor of Dune ?
posted by Pendragon at 12:07 PM on May 3, 2023 [7 favorites]
People weren't fleeing from the theaters after the Spider Thing was shown, so we're probably good now for God Emperor and the attendant minor horrors I vaguely remember.
posted by Slackermagee at 12:17 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by Slackermagee at 12:17 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
confluency: I assume that the new very smooth man is Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen.
Smooth, professional whitebackground antagonist?
posted by wenestvedt at 12:17 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
Smooth, professional white
posted by wenestvedt at 12:17 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
doctor_negative: It could certainly use 3 movies to capture the book. I'd rather a third film than a rushed feeling second film.
I couldn't call the first rushed by any stretch. Maybe I should've watched it at 150% or 200% speed to render the Zimmer soundtrack like ordinary orchestral music.
posted by k3ninho at 12:17 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
I couldn't call the first rushed by any stretch. Maybe I should've watched it at 150% or 200% speed to render the Zimmer soundtrack like ordinary orchestral music.
posted by k3ninho at 12:17 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
I am all in for an adaptation that goes up through God Emperor. I generally agree with the sentiment in the other thread that the sequels to Dune decline in quality, but they have their moments and I want nothing more than a big budget descent into the weirdness of God Emperor.
posted by EvaDestruction at 12:21 PM on May 3, 2023 [9 favorites]
posted by EvaDestruction at 12:21 PM on May 3, 2023 [9 favorites]
Tim Blake Nelson is in the new one
"Well that's it, boys. I've used the Prana/Bindu and converted the Water of Life. The Maker's done warshed away all my sins and transgressions. It's the straight and narrow from here on out, no Zensunni pilgrimage, and expanded conciousness's my reward."
posted by haileris23 at 12:23 PM on May 3, 2023 [23 favorites]
"Well that's it, boys. I've used the Prana/Bindu and converted the Water of Life. The Maker's done warshed away all my sins and transgressions. It's the straight and narrow from here on out, no Zensunni pilgrimage, and expanded conciousness's my reward."
posted by haileris23 at 12:23 PM on May 3, 2023 [23 favorites]
As a I recall from the book, the climatic final did feel rather rushed after a long period introducing Paul training with the freeman and lady Jessica’s transformation.
That's my impression, too, but it's been a lonnnnng time since I read the book.
posted by praemunire at 12:28 PM on May 3, 2023
That's my impression, too, but it's been a lonnnnng time since I read the book.
posted by praemunire at 12:28 PM on May 3, 2023
The first one made 400 million
Now that I think of it that was 400 million in the theater during early Covid.
Yeah, there's gold in them thar dunes.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 12:29 PM on May 3, 2023 [6 favorites]
Now that I think of it that was 400 million in the theater during early Covid.
Yeah, there's gold in them thar dunes.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 12:29 PM on May 3, 2023 [6 favorites]
Ironically for Dune, when it rains it pours!
Maybe not so ironic!
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a crysknife
posted by Greg_Ace at 12:32 PM on May 3, 2023 [18 favorites]
Maybe not so ironic!
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a crysknife
posted by Greg_Ace at 12:32 PM on May 3, 2023 [18 favorites]
I'm a fan, but gotta admit I laughed at this re-captioned version of the poster.
posted by straight at 12:39 PM on May 3, 2023 [24 favorites]
posted by straight at 12:39 PM on May 3, 2023 [24 favorites]
It's meeting the man of your dreams who's so fine
and then meeting his bound concubine
posted by cmfletcher at 12:40 PM on May 3, 2023 [5 favorites]
and then meeting his bound concubine
posted by cmfletcher at 12:40 PM on May 3, 2023 [5 favorites]
Just give me two hours of massive brutalist ships hovering over wide vistas. Maybe throw in a droning, eerie chorus and we’re good.
posted by dephlogisticated at 1:12 PM on May 3, 2023 [16 favorites]
posted by dephlogisticated at 1:12 PM on May 3, 2023 [16 favorites]
Koyaaduneqatzi
posted by hippybear at 1:14 PM on May 3, 2023 [16 favorites]
posted by hippybear at 1:14 PM on May 3, 2023 [16 favorites]
That trailer had a trailer! But this is looking good.
Is it just me, or does this feel like we should be expecting a surprise part 3?
'May thy knife chip and shatter' that's from the final duel, so this looks like the movie will cover the events of the 1st book. I think I heard they'll also be doing Dune Messiah though. I'll admit I find the latter books considerably less interesting.
posted by WaterAndPixels at 1:17 PM on May 3, 2023 [4 favorites]
Is it just me, or does this feel like we should be expecting a surprise part 3?
'May thy knife chip and shatter' that's from the final duel, so this looks like the movie will cover the events of the 1st book. I think I heard they'll also be doing Dune Messiah though. I'll admit I find the latter books considerably less interesting.
posted by WaterAndPixels at 1:17 PM on May 3, 2023 [4 favorites]
This itching feeling, not sure if it's anticipation, the spice, or sand in my stillsuit.
posted by furtive at 1:21 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by furtive at 1:21 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
Fun fact: in the Lynch film, the shot where the scale of the sandworm is hooked and peeled back so it can expose the interior and irritate the sandworm so it will rotate and stay up out of the sand... the part under the scale is made up of a giant stack of unwrapped condoms.
posted by hippybear at 1:34 PM on May 3, 2023 [5 favorites]
posted by hippybear at 1:34 PM on May 3, 2023 [5 favorites]
I'm all for Villeneuve doing movies through God Emperor. I struggle to see how well Children of Dune would work, but Villeneuve would have an amazing time with God Emperor.
As for Heretics and Chapterhouse, those are spinoff TV series. If anyone deserves an extended treatment, it's the Bene Gesserit.
posted by fatbird at 1:39 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
As for Heretics and Chapterhouse, those are spinoff TV series. If anyone deserves an extended treatment, it's the Bene Gesserit.
posted by fatbird at 1:39 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
It's like sand in your stillsuit when you're already wormriding
posted by Greg_Ace at 1:41 PM on May 3, 2023 [10 favorites]
posted by Greg_Ace at 1:41 PM on May 3, 2023 [10 favorites]
The Onion: ‘Dune: Part Two’ To Pick Up Right Where Viewers Fell Asleep During First One
(With apologies to true believers in Dune)
posted by DirtyOldTown at 1:42 PM on May 3, 2023 [17 favorites]
(With apologies to true believers in Dune)
posted by DirtyOldTown at 1:42 PM on May 3, 2023 [17 favorites]
I'll show myself out of the sietch
posted by Greg_Ace at 1:42 PM on May 3, 2023 [7 favorites]
posted by Greg_Ace at 1:42 PM on May 3, 2023 [7 favorites]
I want to love this as deeply as I wanted to love the first film, but the trailer seems to say “tone down that omnipresent, dialogue drowning out, wannabe Passion soundtrack to Last Temptation, but, you know, with guitars, and bad soundtrack? Nah, full on bro!”
I wonder how much of the dialogue I’ll have to try to follow through the Japanese subtitles in this one? Still looking forward to it, but dreading the soundtrack already isn’t the best way to psych oneself up for a movie you’ve been wanting to see made for years.
posted by Ghidorah at 1:43 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
I wonder how much of the dialogue I’ll have to try to follow through the Japanese subtitles in this one? Still looking forward to it, but dreading the soundtrack already isn’t the best way to psych oneself up for a movie you’ve been wanting to see made for years.
posted by Ghidorah at 1:43 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
I have often wondered across the decades (I'm old enough that new Dune books were hitting the best seller list while I was in high school) whether if Herbert had lived long enough to finish Dune 7 he would have pulled off an ending that justified this lengthy, millennia-spanning paean to eugenics and genocide.
posted by hippybear at 1:45 PM on May 3, 2023
posted by hippybear at 1:45 PM on May 3, 2023
The trailer itself is fairly underwhelming, but given the modern penchant for 3-minute trailers that summarize the entire movie, I'll take underwhelming. No matter anyway--I am so down for this movie. With Part 1 they did an excellent job adapting the dense source material while making it very accessible. I expect they will do the same with the sequel, and there will almost certainly be more eye-popping scenes that they deliberately kept out of the trailer.
posted by zardoz at 2:04 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by zardoz at 2:04 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
if Herbert had lived long enough to finish Dune 7 he would have pulled off an ending that justified this
I'd be really curious to see his actual notes and outlines because I don't believe Herbert had an overall arc, and suggestions that he did seem to be in conflict with his persistent theme of an infinite, indeterminate universe.
Bryan Herbert/Kevin Anderson's "IT WAS OMNIOUS ALL ALONG" bullshit is just too clueless of most of the underlying themes that actually connect the first books to 5 and 6. I suspect that 7, had it been written, would have been as random and alienating from Chapterhouse as Heretics was from God Emperor.
posted by fatbird at 2:18 PM on May 3, 2023 [4 favorites]
I'd be really curious to see his actual notes and outlines because I don't believe Herbert had an overall arc, and suggestions that he did seem to be in conflict with his persistent theme of an infinite, indeterminate universe.
Bryan Herbert/Kevin Anderson's "IT WAS OMNIOUS ALL ALONG" bullshit is just too clueless of most of the underlying themes that actually connect the first books to 5 and 6. I suspect that 7, had it been written, would have been as random and alienating from Chapterhouse as Heretics was from God Emperor.
posted by fatbird at 2:18 PM on May 3, 2023 [4 favorites]
haileris23 - God, I have been hoping for a God Emperor movie for so long.
posted by Chocomog at 2:24 PM on May 3, 2023 [3 favorites]
posted by Chocomog at 2:24 PM on May 3, 2023 [3 favorites]
Honestly, they could just repeat the first movie and throw Florence Pugh and Christopher Walken in for five minutes each and I'd still go see it.
posted by Halloween Jack at 2:34 PM on May 3, 2023
posted by Halloween Jack at 2:34 PM on May 3, 2023
Whoever came up with that ⊃⋃ ⋂∈ text design does not get paid enough.
posted by mhoye at 2:39 PM on May 3, 2023 [13 favorites]
posted by mhoye at 2:39 PM on May 3, 2023 [13 favorites]
I'm all for Villeneuve doing movies through God Emperor. I struggle to see how well Children of Dune would work, but Villeneuve would have an amazing time with God Emperor.
Children of Dune is a season or two of a TV show. Maybe three.
posted by restless_nomad at 3:04 PM on May 3, 2023
Children of Dune is a season or two of a TV show. Maybe three.
posted by restless_nomad at 3:04 PM on May 3, 2023
It Is By Will Alone I Set My Franchise In Motion
I like the Lynch version. Fight me. Actually don't fight me, I know it.
posted by kleinsteradikaleminderheit at 3:04 PM on May 3, 2023 [13 favorites]
I like the Lynch version. Fight me. Actually don't fight me, I know it.
posted by kleinsteradikaleminderheit at 3:04 PM on May 3, 2023 [13 favorites]
dunc... dcscrt planct...
posted by Sebmojo at 3:05 PM on May 3, 2023 [5 favorites]
posted by Sebmojo at 3:05 PM on May 3, 2023 [5 favorites]
SPICE...
posted by Windopaene at 3:06 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by Windopaene at 3:06 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
Well, lest we forget, the Sci-Fi Channel did a Dune limited series. I think they covered Dune Messiah and Children Of Dune across 6 hours total.
I actually enjoyed them. They were totally hokey East European productions with some characters entirely dubbed, but they had decent for the time production values and I felt they told the story pretty well.
posted by hippybear at 3:08 PM on May 3, 2023 [6 favorites]
I actually enjoyed them. They were totally hokey East European productions with some characters entirely dubbed, but they had decent for the time production values and I felt they told the story pretty well.
posted by hippybear at 3:08 PM on May 3, 2023 [6 favorites]
Who did you contact first to tell them the good news about Part Two?
Definitely, because of his incredible enthusiasm, it was Timothée. I spent almost a year with Timothée where he was saying to me, “Can I put a little bit of the Muad’Dib here?” I said, “No, Timothée. You’re not the Muad’Dib yet.” I spent a year saying to him, “Relax, man. It’s for Part Two.” So I just wrote him a text message saying: “Muad’Dib time.” And then it was a burst of joy in Timothée.
posted by The Notorious B.F.G. at 3:34 PM on May 3, 2023 [12 favorites]
Definitely, because of his incredible enthusiasm, it was Timothée. I spent almost a year with Timothée where he was saying to me, “Can I put a little bit of the Muad’Dib here?” I said, “No, Timothée. You’re not the Muad’Dib yet.” I spent a year saying to him, “Relax, man. It’s for Part Two.” So I just wrote him a text message saying: “Muad’Dib time.” And then it was a burst of joy in Timothée.
posted by The Notorious B.F.G. at 3:34 PM on May 3, 2023 [12 favorites]
Whoever came up with that ⊃⋃ ⋂∈ text design does not get paid enough.
It ain’t no Papyrus
posted by Insert Clever Name Here at 3:37 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
It ain’t no Papyrus
posted by Insert Clever Name Here at 3:37 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
not count Fenring?
One would hm-mmm-ah-mmm-hope at least that hmm-mm-hmm he'd make a token hm-ah-appearance at his wife's hmm-hm-side, no?
I'll show myself out of the sietch
Having read these books as a kid meant for me at least that I went an embarrassingly long time thinking that "sietch" and some of Herbert's other concocted terms were real words.
posted by xigxag at 3:40 PM on May 3, 2023 [4 favorites]
One would hm-mmm-ah-mmm-hope at least that hmm-mm-hmm he'd make a token hm-ah-appearance at his wife's hmm-hm-side, no?
I'll show myself out of the sietch
Having read these books as a kid meant for me at least that I went an embarrassingly long time thinking that "sietch" and some of Herbert's other concocted terms were real words.
posted by xigxag at 3:40 PM on May 3, 2023 [4 favorites]
The Mystery of the Dune Font (no not that one, the original one)
posted by bonehead at 4:04 PM on May 3, 2023
posted by bonehead at 4:04 PM on May 3, 2023
Whoever came up with that ⊃⋃ ⋂∈ text design does not get paid enough.
Pro Tip: use Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics for a more consistent browser layout experience:
Pro Tip: use Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics for a more consistent browser layout experience:
ᑐ ᑌ ᑎ ᕮposted by The Tensor at 4:09 PM on May 3, 2023 [27 favorites]
Paul Atreides and the Temple of Dune.
posted by kaibutsu at 4:14 PM on May 3, 2023 [5 favorites]
posted by kaibutsu at 4:14 PM on May 3, 2023 [5 favorites]
Just give me two hours of massive brutalist ships hovering over wide vistas. Maybe throw in a droning, eerie chorus and we’re good.
I will need a cut to long tracking shots of throat-singing amidst human sacrifice in radioactive rain for two out of every twenty minutes, but with that minor addition I’m totally onboard.
posted by Ryvar at 4:21 PM on May 3, 2023 [8 favorites]
I will need a cut to long tracking shots of throat-singing amidst human sacrifice in radioactive rain for two out of every twenty minutes, but with that minor addition I’m totally onboard.
posted by Ryvar at 4:21 PM on May 3, 2023 [8 favorites]
I could watch several more of these for sure. It's a testament to how immersive I found the first one that I completely forgot there were two parts, and was starting to wonder how long the whole movie was going to have to be to fit in the rest of the book when suddenly it ended. I thought the pacing was exactly right.
I'd love a similarly leisurely adaptation of Dune Messiah and Children of Dune. After that things get a bit weird, but someone could probably do a good job with the remaining (original) novels.
posted by confluency at 4:26 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
I'd love a similarly leisurely adaptation of Dune Messiah and Children of Dune. After that things get a bit weird, but someone could probably do a good job with the remaining (original) novels.
posted by confluency at 4:26 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
I just dropped in to say I could not stomach the book but Dune 1 was amazing.
posted by bluesky43 at 4:30 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by bluesky43 at 4:30 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
It's a testament to how immersive I found the first one that I completely forgot there were two parts, and was starting to wonder how long the whole movie was going to have to be to fit in the rest of the book when suddenly it ended. I thought the pacing was exactly right.
I agree it was well done and I was really absorbed into the story, but I thought the final scene--the knife fight--was somewhat anticlimactic. I wonder if it would've fit better at the start of part two.
posted by zardoz at 4:32 PM on May 3, 2023
I agree it was well done and I was really absorbed into the story, but I thought the final scene--the knife fight--was somewhat anticlimactic. I wonder if it would've fit better at the start of part two.
posted by zardoz at 4:32 PM on May 3, 2023
You sort of have to end it there. You can't leave it with Paul not yet accepted amongst the Fremen. That transition point in the story is the perfect place to pause the tale.
posted by hippybear at 4:33 PM on May 3, 2023 [3 favorites]
posted by hippybear at 4:33 PM on May 3, 2023 [3 favorites]
Yeah…it would have been too much of a “continued next season” style cliffhanger.
posted by Insert Clever Name Here at 4:42 PM on May 3, 2023
posted by Insert Clever Name Here at 4:42 PM on May 3, 2023
That title font got me briefly excited that they would be teaching set theory in math classrooms again.
posted by wenestvedt at 5:23 PM on May 3, 2023 [11 favorites]
posted by wenestvedt at 5:23 PM on May 3, 2023 [11 favorites]
Arrakis. A desert planet so harsh, hot and bright that you don't even need sunglasses.
posted by SoberHighland at 5:28 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by SoberHighland at 5:28 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
sequels to Dune decline
My take is that the first book is one of the great achievements of science fiction.
The sequel is daring as heck. It drastically changes the tone from heroic adventure to mordant tragedy. It also has some great plotting and classic Frank Herbert dialog. It really undoes so much of the first book (including turning the conquest into horror, hippybear).
The third novel is another adventure with a heroic finale, but it also turns on the first two books to critique them - a daring move, again, commercially. I'd like to reread it to see how it holds up.
God Emperor changes things up again, yanking the reader into that old, rare species of philosophical novel, more like Olaf Stapledon than anything.
5+6... I still find them weaker. The Face Dancers become flimsy and goofy. There's too much repetition from the originals, even Duncan damned Idaho. But the end of book 6- is it a tribute to Herbert's deceased wife, Beverly?
I'm old enough that new Dune books were hitting the best seller list while I was in high school
Me too!
posted by doctornemo at 5:44 PM on May 3, 2023 [9 favorites]
My take is that the first book is one of the great achievements of science fiction.
The sequel is daring as heck. It drastically changes the tone from heroic adventure to mordant tragedy. It also has some great plotting and classic Frank Herbert dialog. It really undoes so much of the first book (including turning the conquest into horror, hippybear).
The third novel is another adventure with a heroic finale, but it also turns on the first two books to critique them - a daring move, again, commercially. I'd like to reread it to see how it holds up.
God Emperor changes things up again, yanking the reader into that old, rare species of philosophical novel, more like Olaf Stapledon than anything.
5+6... I still find them weaker. The Face Dancers become flimsy and goofy. There's too much repetition from the originals, even Duncan damned Idaho. But the end of book 6- is it a tribute to Herbert's deceased wife, Beverly?
I'm old enough that new Dune books were hitting the best seller list while I was in high school
Me too!
posted by doctornemo at 5:44 PM on May 3, 2023 [9 favorites]
2UNE
2 Dune, 2 Furious
...or maybe:
2 Feyd, 2 Furious
posted by Artifice_Eternity at 6:11 PM on May 3, 2023 [8 favorites]
2 Dune, 2 Furious
...or maybe:
2 Feyd, 2 Furious
posted by Artifice_Eternity at 6:11 PM on May 3, 2023 [8 favorites]
seeing this trailer got me to re-watch part one. It's just so great seeing something that was made by talented, motivated people who care about the source material.
posted by LegallyBread at 6:19 PM on May 3, 2023 [6 favorites]
posted by LegallyBread at 6:19 PM on May 3, 2023 [6 favorites]
The universe runs on worm poop.
posted by praemunire at 6:19 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by praemunire at 6:19 PM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]
I couldn't call the first rushed by any stretch.
You are being very gentle.
posted by grobstein at 7:17 PM on May 3, 2023
You are being very gentle.
posted by grobstein at 7:17 PM on May 3, 2023
ᑐ ᑌ ᑎ ᕮ
But, seriously, they are leaning into the math typology right. That *is* nifty. Good job, whomever
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 8:46 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
But, seriously, they are leaning into the math typology right. That *is* nifty. Good job, whomever
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 8:46 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
When the Harkonnen heir is attempting to
copy Gurney, that’s a Feyd oud.
When he dying, that’s a Feyd to black.
posted by curious nu at 8:54 PM on May 3, 2023 [7 favorites]
copy Gurney, that’s a Feyd oud.
When he dying, that’s a Feyd to black.
posted by curious nu at 8:54 PM on May 3, 2023 [7 favorites]
The sometimes-narrator is Irulan?
posted by brendano at 9:24 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by brendano at 9:24 PM on May 3, 2023 [2 favorites]
Honestly the way they started the first film with Paul Atreides' motorcycle accident on Caladan, then moving almost straight to the desert and his horror-attraction for the war, was clever. The adaptation of the book's really ambiguous telling of Paul's experience with the Harkonnens in Deraa (or whatever happened to him there) was done about as well as you could for the 1960s. Omar Sharif as Stilgar was an inspired bit of casting, but Alec Guinness in brownface as Duke Leto hasn't stood up to posterity. And some magnificent lines of dialogue. I! Am! A River! To! My! People!
Great music though.
posted by Fiasco da Gama at 10:07 PM on May 3, 2023 [8 favorites]
Great music though.
posted by Fiasco da Gama at 10:07 PM on May 3, 2023 [8 favorites]
For the banquet celebrating this news, nothing fancy.
Just make sure to prepare the gravy of life before taming mighty Pork-Hulud.
posted by protorp at 12:57 AM on May 4, 2023 [1 favorite]
Just make sure to prepare the gravy of life before taming mighty Pork-Hulud.
posted by protorp at 12:57 AM on May 4, 2023 [1 favorite]
Looks good but I wish someone hadn't linked the Auralnauts How To Make A Blockbuster Movie Trailer immediately before I watched this one.
posted by TheophileEscargot at 1:14 AM on May 4, 2023 [3 favorites]
posted by TheophileEscargot at 1:14 AM on May 4, 2023 [3 favorites]
Originally Dune was published as two books. These films split in the same place as those original books.
So the knife fight with Jamis is part of Paul's acceptance into the Fremen.
The next book kicks in after he's been with them for a little while.
My only quibble so far is that Chani would not call Paul, Atreides.
She would call him Usul
posted by Just this guy, y'know at 1:36 AM on May 4, 2023 [3 favorites]
So the knife fight with Jamis is part of Paul's acceptance into the Fremen.
The next book kicks in after he's been with them for a little while.
My only quibble so far is that Chani would not call Paul, Atreides.
She would call him Usul
posted by Just this guy, y'know at 1:36 AM on May 4, 2023 [3 favorites]
Originally Dune was published as two books. These films split in the same place as those original books.
"Dune World" ends with Paul and Jessica buried in a stilltent, before they meet the Fremen. (The same place Book One of the published novel ends.)
posted by The Tensor at 2:27 AM on May 4, 2023 [5 favorites]
"Dune World" ends with Paul and Jessica buried in a stilltent, before they meet the Fremen. (The same place Book One of the published novel ends.)
posted by The Tensor at 2:27 AM on May 4, 2023 [5 favorites]
I've decided that instead of a hype train, we are all riding on the Hype Sandworm.
See? It was even in the trailer. ALL ABOARD THE HYPEWORM.
posted by Katemonkey at 3:56 AM on May 4, 2023 [5 favorites]
See? It was even in the trailer. ALL ABOARD THE HYPEWORM.
posted by Katemonkey at 3:56 AM on May 4, 2023 [5 favorites]
"Dune World" ends with Paul and Jessica buried in a stilltent, before they meet the Fremen. (The same place Book One of the published novel ends.)
Ah, thanks!
I stand corrected.
posted by Just this guy, y'know at 5:55 AM on May 4, 2023
Ah, thanks!
I stand corrected.
posted by Just this guy, y'know at 5:55 AM on May 4, 2023
ALL ABOARD THE HYPEWORM.
Um, can I get a ride with you on your worm? The candle in my thumper keeps going out, and I burned my thumb lighting it. Just not my day, y'know?
posted by wenestvedt at 5:59 AM on May 4, 2023 [1 favorite]
Um, can I get a ride with you on your worm? The candle in my thumper keeps going out, and I burned my thumb lighting it. Just not my day, y'know?
posted by wenestvedt at 5:59 AM on May 4, 2023 [1 favorite]
Having read these books as a kid meant for me at least that I went an embarrassingly long time thinking that "sietch" and some of Herbert's other concocted terms were real words.
I know you probably meant "English words" but a lot of his 'invented' words are borrowed, sometimes with a little tweak, from other real languages, usually used for a related concept to its 'fictional' use. "Sich" is an armed Cossack camp, for example. And that's probably part of why they just feel really good as 'fake words,' because they're drawing from actual human language instead of just being a bunch of fun syllables.
posted by Tomorrowful at 7:47 AM on May 4, 2023 [8 favorites]
I know you probably meant "English words" but a lot of his 'invented' words are borrowed, sometimes with a little tweak, from other real languages, usually used for a related concept to its 'fictional' use. "Sich" is an armed Cossack camp, for example. And that's probably part of why they just feel really good as 'fake words,' because they're drawing from actual human language instead of just being a bunch of fun syllables.
posted by Tomorrowful at 7:47 AM on May 4, 2023 [8 favorites]
The universe runs on worm poop.
Isn't it worm vomit? An "exhalation"?
-from _Notes on Sietch Pedantic_
posted by doctornemo at 8:49 AM on May 4, 2023
Isn't it worm vomit? An "exhalation"?
-from _Notes on Sietch Pedantic_
posted by doctornemo at 8:49 AM on May 4, 2023
You're thinking of water of life, which is the puke from a drowned baby sandworm.
Sandtrout shit pre-spice which gets gloobered up with the water they're encapsulating when the pre-spice mass asplode.
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 9:06 AM on May 4, 2023 [2 favorites]
Sandtrout shit pre-spice which gets gloobered up with the water they're encapsulating when the pre-spice mass asplode.
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 9:06 AM on May 4, 2023 [2 favorites]
Spice is no worse than ambergris.
posted by surlyben at 9:14 AM on May 4, 2023 [3 favorites]
posted by surlyben at 9:14 AM on May 4, 2023 [3 favorites]
I thought the final scene--the knife fight--was somewhat anticlimactic. I wonder if it would've fit better at the start of part two.
“Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife - chopping off what's incomplete and saying: 'Now, it's complete because it's ended here.' -- from Collected Sayings of Maud'Dib by the Princess Irulan
posted by gauche at 10:12 AM on May 4, 2023 [7 favorites]
“Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife - chopping off what's incomplete and saying: 'Now, it's complete because it's ended here.' -- from Collected Sayings of Maud'Dib by the Princess Irulan
posted by gauche at 10:12 AM on May 4, 2023 [7 favorites]
“Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife - chopping off what's incomplete and saying: 'Now, it's complete because it's ended here.' -- from Collected Sayings of Maud'Dib by the Princess Irulan
Powerful argument against doing a part 2
posted by grobstein at 11:10 AM on May 4, 2023 [6 favorites]
Powerful argument against doing a part 2
posted by grobstein at 11:10 AM on May 4, 2023 [6 favorites]
I generally agree with the sentiment in the other thread that the sequels to Dune decline in quality
The first Dune is just another iteration of the hero's journey. Powerful dude goes to a place, faces hardship, takes over and takes revenge on the people that wronged him. You need the sequels to see, that all of that is actually toxic. And then it gets weirder and weirder again until Brian Herbert takes over and things immediately get very boring. Children of Dune is kind of weak, but I think all the other books are really neat and more interesting than the first Dune.
I’m looking forward to this movie, loved the design of the first half.
posted by the_dreamwriter at 12:16 PM on May 4, 2023 [3 favorites]
The first Dune is just another iteration of the hero's journey. Powerful dude goes to a place, faces hardship, takes over and takes revenge on the people that wronged him. You need the sequels to see, that all of that is actually toxic. And then it gets weirder and weirder again until Brian Herbert takes over and things immediately get very boring. Children of Dune is kind of weak, but I think all the other books are really neat and more interesting than the first Dune.
I’m looking forward to this movie, loved the design of the first half.
posted by the_dreamwriter at 12:16 PM on May 4, 2023 [3 favorites]
I'm torn because I know that the visuals are probably best viewed in the theater, but when I saw the first one in the theater, the sound mixing was so bad I missed probably 20% of the dialogue. Part of me just wants to watch it at home where I can turn on the subtitles, and turn down the volume so that the droning musical stuff doesn't hurt my ears.
posted by creepygirl at 1:30 PM on May 4, 2023 [5 favorites]
posted by creepygirl at 1:30 PM on May 4, 2023 [5 favorites]
Obviously this is your inspiration for a truly major home theater upgrade! You have months to get it designed and put together.
posted by hippybear at 1:39 PM on May 4, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by hippybear at 1:39 PM on May 4, 2023 [2 favorites]
I'm torn because I know that the visuals are probably best viewed in the theater, but when I saw the first one in the theater, the sound mixing was so bad I missed probably 20% of the dialogue. Part of me just wants to watch it at home where I can turn on the subtitles, and turn down the volume so that the droning musical stuff doesn't hurt my ears.
Not only do I recommend this anyway, one of my favorite things about Dune is the lush and intensely detailed set designs, costumes, etc. My next rewatch I'm going to probably rewind and rewatch a bunch of scenes just to drink in details that would otherwise flash by. The whole sequence introducing the Sardaukar, with the crucifixions and annointing - that's just a couple of shots and there's so much worldbuilding-through-art-direction in it.
posted by Tomorrowful at 3:01 PM on May 4, 2023 [3 favorites]
Not only do I recommend this anyway, one of my favorite things about Dune is the lush and intensely detailed set designs, costumes, etc. My next rewatch I'm going to probably rewind and rewatch a bunch of scenes just to drink in details that would otherwise flash by. The whole sequence introducing the Sardaukar, with the crucifixions and annointing - that's just a couple of shots and there's so much worldbuilding-through-art-direction in it.
posted by Tomorrowful at 3:01 PM on May 4, 2023 [3 favorites]
I'm torn because I know that the visuals are probably best viewed in the theater, but when I saw the first one in the theater, the sound mixing was so bad I missed probably 20% of the dialogue. Part of me just wants to watch it at home where I can turn on the subtitles, and turn down the volume so that the droning musical stuff doesn't hurt my ears.
Sound design these days seems motivated by violence. I watched it at home, and the bass was so heavy that it left my speaker with a permanent crackle. I ended up junking the TV over it and buying a new one because it wasn’t worth the cost of repair. The new TV, however, seems to handle it fine.
posted by dephlogisticated at 4:05 PM on May 4, 2023 [1 favorite]
Sound design these days seems motivated by violence. I watched it at home, and the bass was so heavy that it left my speaker with a permanent crackle. I ended up junking the TV over it and buying a new one because it wasn’t worth the cost of repair. The new TV, however, seems to handle it fine.
posted by dephlogisticated at 4:05 PM on May 4, 2023 [1 favorite]
Sound design these days seems motivated by violence.
In some videogames the background music, the dialog, and the sound effects all have their own sliders so you can mix it to taste. It's too bad that whatever committee came up with digital home video standards didn't do the same so we could adjust the mix to our taste.
It's not like the basic tech isn't there. Lots of movies have separate tracks for foreign language dubbing. But I think that each audio track is just the entire localized audio, e.g.: english + bgm + sfx or spanish + bgm + sfx, etc., with no easy way to separate out each element. I know some TVs use AI to enhance the dialog, but I think it's just on or off, and doesn't allow you to turn the non-dialog all the way down.
TV manufacturers are always looking for something to push as the next premium feature. Get on this, er, Hisense!
posted by xigxag at 6:26 PM on May 4, 2023 [5 favorites]
In some videogames the background music, the dialog, and the sound effects all have their own sliders so you can mix it to taste. It's too bad that whatever committee came up with digital home video standards didn't do the same so we could adjust the mix to our taste.
It's not like the basic tech isn't there. Lots of movies have separate tracks for foreign language dubbing. But I think that each audio track is just the entire localized audio, e.g.: english + bgm + sfx or spanish + bgm + sfx, etc., with no easy way to separate out each element. I know some TVs use AI to enhance the dialog, but I think it's just on or off, and doesn't allow you to turn the non-dialog all the way down.
TV manufacturers are always looking for something to push as the next premium feature. Get on this, er, Hisense!
posted by xigxag at 6:26 PM on May 4, 2023 [5 favorites]
Previously on Metafilter: Here's Why Movie Dialogue Has Gotten More Difficult To Understand. It's a combination of bad film making stylistic choice and outright bad film making. The most egregious example to me was Interstellar, whose sound mix was so bad that movie theaters posted signs saying "don't complain, it's supposed to sound like that". The crucial plot reveal was nearly unintelligible because the dialog was mumbled under Zimmer's score. When called out specifically on that Nolan defended the choice. "Some of the words are intentionally downplayed in favor of the emotion of that moment" is a thing the sound designer literally said. Or so it was reported, you couldn't quite make out the exact words as he said them.
Dune is also a Zimmer score but I didn't have trouble in a theater understanding the dialog. It may help that I know the story really well.
Some theaters have a subtitle system as an adaptation for people with hearing trouble. It seems a little ridiculous but it might be a way to get the theater experience while also being able to understand the words. Either that or wait for thewebrip streaming release.
posted by Nelson at 7:28 PM on May 4, 2023 [5 favorites]
Dune is also a Zimmer score but I didn't have trouble in a theater understanding the dialog. It may help that I know the story really well.
Some theaters have a subtitle system as an adaptation for people with hearing trouble. It seems a little ridiculous but it might be a way to get the theater experience while also being able to understand the words. Either that or wait for the
posted by Nelson at 7:28 PM on May 4, 2023 [5 favorites]
Many movie theaters these days are also doing closed captioned showings of movies, if they're offered as an option. This means basically subtitles on the screen during the showing.
They also might have visual description showings, which is a common option in most viewings individually through a headphone device, but in these, they play the descriptions as part of the theater soundtrack.
These kinds of optional showings are common even in this medium sized city, so you might look at Fandango or whatever and see what those little symbols for each showing mean.
posted by hippybear at 8:09 PM on May 4, 2023 [2 favorites]
They also might have visual description showings, which is a common option in most viewings individually through a headphone device, but in these, they play the descriptions as part of the theater soundtrack.
These kinds of optional showings are common even in this medium sized city, so you might look at Fandango or whatever and see what those little symbols for each showing mean.
posted by hippybear at 8:09 PM on May 4, 2023 [2 favorites]
Many movie theaters these days are also doing closed captioned showings of movies
Just for people who might be looking for it, this is called open, not closed, captions, at least by Regal.
Descriptive audio doesn't amplify the dialogue, unfortunately.
posted by praemunire at 10:37 PM on May 4, 2023 [1 favorite]
Just for people who might be looking for it, this is called open, not closed, captions, at least by Regal.
Descriptive audio doesn't amplify the dialogue, unfortunately.
posted by praemunire at 10:37 PM on May 4, 2023 [1 favorite]
Dune II: The Battle for Arrakis
No, wait, that was a 1992 MS-DOS game.
posted by asnider at 3:18 PM on May 5, 2023
No, wait, that was a 1992 MS-DOS game.
posted by asnider at 3:18 PM on May 5, 2023
> It's too bad that whatever committee came up with digital home video standards didn't do the same so we could adjust the mix to our taste.
This would be great. It's not the same thing, but at least some TVs and sound bars include a "dialogue" mode, that picks up and amplifies speaking parts. I pretty much have it permanently turned on, but even with it I find that I sometimes need subtitles to understand what's being said in some recent shows and movies because of the way modern sound design tends to be done.
I'll also sometimes use "night mode" even in the day time, just to balance everything out so I'm not constantly adjusting the volume (action scenes are too loud! quieter, speaking scenes are too quiet!).
posted by asnider at 3:22 PM on May 5, 2023 [1 favorite]
This would be great. It's not the same thing, but at least some TVs and sound bars include a "dialogue" mode, that picks up and amplifies speaking parts. I pretty much have it permanently turned on, but even with it I find that I sometimes need subtitles to understand what's being said in some recent shows and movies because of the way modern sound design tends to be done.
I'll also sometimes use "night mode" even in the day time, just to balance everything out so I'm not constantly adjusting the volume (action scenes are too loud! quieter, speaking scenes are too quiet!).
posted by asnider at 3:22 PM on May 5, 2023 [1 favorite]
If I wanted to fuck with the audio mix I could get into the menus of my amplifier and boost the center speaker in my 5.1 system. But there is no easy way to revert to the mix I want as a standard so I leave all this alone.
I assume soundbars don't allow you to select a single speaker and boost that volume because they don't work that way. But boosting the center speaker, if you can, should make a lot of dialogue better.
This is not universal. The ways movies are mixed can vary widely.
posted by hippybear at 4:22 PM on May 5, 2023
I assume soundbars don't allow you to select a single speaker and boost that volume because they don't work that way. But boosting the center speaker, if you can, should make a lot of dialogue better.
This is not universal. The ways movies are mixed can vary widely.
posted by hippybear at 4:22 PM on May 5, 2023
If I wanted to fuck with the audio mix I could get into the menus of my amplifier and boost the center speaker in my 5.1 system.
I didn't mean the existing 5.1 mix, which is a front left/right, rear left/right and center mix with a non-positional bass component. I meant a (currently unavailable) adjustment where bgm as a whole had an independent slider, vocals as a whole had an independent slider and sound fx as a whole had an independent slider, and you could then boost the mumbly vocals or turn down the blaring soundtrack, etc., to your taste.
posted by xigxag at 11:48 PM on May 8, 2023
I didn't mean the existing 5.1 mix, which is a front left/right, rear left/right and center mix with a non-positional bass component. I meant a (currently unavailable) adjustment where bgm as a whole had an independent slider, vocals as a whole had an independent slider and sound fx as a whole had an independent slider, and you could then boost the mumbly vocals or turn down the blaring soundtrack, etc., to your taste.
posted by xigxag at 11:48 PM on May 8, 2023
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-the arena fight - not count Fenring?
posted by doctornemo at 9:27 AM on May 3, 2023 [1 favorite]