Who else could substitute for Chris Squire?
April 9, 2017 1:52 AM Subscribe
Rolling Stone has lots of coverage of the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony, including video and transcripts, but I just want to draw your attention to Rush's Geddy Lee playing bass with Yes in a performance of Roundabout. [Direct video link]
I mean, given Lifeson's and Lee's induction speeches for Yes, it must be surreal to be 63 years old and suddenly be playing with your childhood heroes on one of their most famous songs.
posted by hippybear at 2:01 AM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by hippybear at 2:01 AM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
Oh MAN I want to watch this video but I worry that upon doing so, I will not get so much as find that I have always owned an airbrushed panel van
posted by DoctorFedora at 2:19 AM on April 9, 2017 [25 favorites]
posted by DoctorFedora at 2:19 AM on April 9, 2017 [25 favorites]
The airbrushed panel van was in your heart all along.
posted by hippybear at 2:20 AM on April 9, 2017 [29 favorites]
posted by hippybear at 2:20 AM on April 9, 2017 [29 favorites]
This was all the things. Thanks!!
posted by I_Love_Bananas at 2:27 AM on April 9, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by I_Love_Bananas at 2:27 AM on April 9, 2017 [1 favorite]
The cape. THE CAPE.
posted by I_Love_Bananas at 2:30 AM on April 9, 2017 [9 favorites]
posted by I_Love_Bananas at 2:30 AM on April 9, 2017 [9 favorites]
Grumpy Old Rick's speech was hilarious.
posted by parki at 2:59 AM on April 9, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by parki at 2:59 AM on April 9, 2017 [1 favorite]
Some amazing performances there as per usual. Lenny Kravitz's Prince tribute was great. He's one of the only people I can think of who even approaches Prince in term of star quality.
posted by I_Love_Bananas at 3:16 AM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by I_Love_Bananas at 3:16 AM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
Who else could substitute for Chris Squire?
When there was that Yes schism in the late 80's, "Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, and Howe" hired Tony Levin to tour. Levin got sick during the tour, and they called Jeff Berlin to substitute on an emergency basis. Like he had 3 days notice and one rehearsal. And, after Squire became ill, they used a guy who had produced Yes in the 90's, Billy Sherwood, who is still playing with the band, to do the tour that was scheduled.
But sure, none of those guys would have brought the excitement or prog gravitas of Geddy Lee's guest spot, for the induction.
OK, I like to answer rhetorical questions
posted by thelonius at 4:30 AM on April 9, 2017 [5 favorites]
When there was that Yes schism in the late 80's, "Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, and Howe" hired Tony Levin to tour. Levin got sick during the tour, and they called Jeff Berlin to substitute on an emergency basis. Like he had 3 days notice and one rehearsal. And, after Squire became ill, they used a guy who had produced Yes in the 90's, Billy Sherwood, who is still playing with the band, to do the tour that was scheduled.
But sure, none of those guys would have brought the excitement or prog gravitas of Geddy Lee's guest spot, for the induction.
OK, I like to answer rhetorical questions
posted by thelonius at 4:30 AM on April 9, 2017 [5 favorites]
I love Lenny Kravitz, but when I think of someone who matches Prince's charisma my mind goes immediately to Janelle Monae.
posted by pxe2000 at 5:22 AM on April 9, 2017 [16 favorites]
posted by pxe2000 at 5:22 AM on April 9, 2017 [16 favorites]
There have been so many members of Yes over the years that there's separate Wikipedia page just to track the different permutations.
posted by octothorpe at 6:25 AM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by octothorpe at 6:25 AM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
I was very surprised when at around 0:40 in the video when Geddy Lee revealed himself to be Dio all along
posted by Merus at 6:30 AM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by Merus at 6:30 AM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
Interesting, where most Wikipedia band pages have a a color-coded timeline to track membership, that one represents the information as a symplectic structure on a non-simply connected 4-manifold.
posted by Wolfdog at 6:37 AM on April 9, 2017 [10 favorites]
posted by Wolfdog at 6:37 AM on April 9, 2017 [10 favorites]
As an aside - an old neighbor of mine was an employee of Rush for 20 years and claims Geddy is a true gentleman. Just an all around nice guy.
posted by davebush at 6:43 AM on April 9, 2017 [7 favorites]
posted by davebush at 6:43 AM on April 9, 2017 [7 favorites]
Dave Letterman gives the induction speech for Pearl Jam
That is the beard of a man who could not give a damn ever again even if his life depended on it. Nice speech too.
posted by wabbittwax at 6:51 AM on April 9, 2017 [5 favorites]
That is the beard of a man who could not give a damn ever again even if his life depended on it. Nice speech too.
posted by wabbittwax at 6:51 AM on April 9, 2017 [5 favorites]
Dave Letterman gives the induction speech for Pearl Jam
That is the beard of a man who could not give a damn ever again even if his life depended on it. Nice speech too.
Jeff Ament's t-shirt was pretty great.
posted by Ufez Jones at 7:33 AM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
That is the beard of a man who could not give a damn ever again even if his life depended on it. Nice speech too.
Jeff Ament's t-shirt was pretty great.
posted by Ufez Jones at 7:33 AM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
"What do Joan Baez, Tupac Shakur and rock and roll have in common?"
"They're cover to distract people from asking why Journey was even allowed to buy a ticket."
posted by delfin at 7:41 AM on April 9, 2017 [3 favorites]
"They're cover to distract people from asking why Journey was even allowed to buy a ticket."
posted by delfin at 7:41 AM on April 9, 2017 [3 favorites]
Rush's Geddy Lee playing bass with Yes
Ten bucks is ten bucks.
posted by 1970s Antihero at 7:56 AM on April 9, 2017 [14 favorites]
Ten bucks is ten bucks.
posted by 1970s Antihero at 7:56 AM on April 9, 2017 [14 favorites]
I love Rush, but loathe Yes. Don't ask me why. (although Rick Wakeman seems like a cool guy)
posted by jonmc at 8:41 AM on April 9, 2017
posted by jonmc at 8:41 AM on April 9, 2017
Fragile is such a great album. I listen to it regularly. I don't listen to Rush anymore, as much as I love them, their music seems very dated to me in a way, for example, that Fragile does not.
One of the first albums I ever bought, I think in seventh grade, was Wakeman's Journey to the Center of the Earth. I've never owned an airbrushed panel van, but that doesn't mean I haven't always secretly wanted one.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 9:09 AM on April 9, 2017 [5 favorites]
One of the first albums I ever bought, I think in seventh grade, was Wakeman's Journey to the Center of the Earth. I've never owned an airbrushed panel van, but that doesn't mean I haven't always secretly wanted one.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 9:09 AM on April 9, 2017 [5 favorites]
Ivan, in Ozzy Osbourne's autobiography, he talks about a period where Sabbath and Yes were recording in different parts of the same studio. Yes were meditating and eating macriobiotic meals and Sabbath, were, well, being Sabbath. Rick Wakeman would often sneak over to Sabbath's area to drink whiskey and eat burgers.
posted by jonmc at 9:12 AM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by jonmc at 9:12 AM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
I've long felt that Rick Wakeman's ideal job would be doing stand-up in a 1970s working man's club - a sort of Bernard Manning type who could play for the singalong at the end of the night.
posted by Grangousier at 10:34 AM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by Grangousier at 10:34 AM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
Also, I still think the Dictators should be in the RRHOF. Let's start a campaign!!!
*runs outside screaming a la Bluto in Animal House*
posted by jonmc at 10:52 AM on April 9, 2017 [3 favorites]
*runs outside screaming a la Bluto in Animal House*
posted by jonmc at 10:52 AM on April 9, 2017 [3 favorites]
I love Rush, but loathe Yes. Don't ask me why. (although Rick Wakeman seems like a cool guy)... [he] would often sneak over to Sabbath's area to drink whiskey and eat burgers.
We've discussed this before, and let me say again that it's true – I have seen, with mine own eyes, a) that Rick is a great guy and b) the rest of Yes, at a backstage party, huddled in a corner eating macrobiotic rice while he drank beer, ate a burger, and hung out with us.
p.s. I have never paid much attention to Rush – I wouldn't say I loathe them, but they’ve never really appealed to me. However, I recently watched a video feature on Geddy Lee, and he also seems like a great guy.
posted by LeLiLo at 10:52 AM on April 9, 2017 [5 favorites]
We've discussed this before, and let me say again that it's true – I have seen, with mine own eyes, a) that Rick is a great guy and b) the rest of Yes, at a backstage party, huddled in a corner eating macrobiotic rice while he drank beer, ate a burger, and hung out with us.
p.s. I have never paid much attention to Rush – I wouldn't say I loathe them, but they’ve never really appealed to me. However, I recently watched a video feature on Geddy Lee, and he also seems like a great guy.
posted by LeLiLo at 10:52 AM on April 9, 2017 [5 favorites]
Decent bass, eh?
Sure, but I was hoping for the Rickenbacker
posted by thelonius at 11:12 AM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
Sure, but I was hoping for the Rickenbacker
posted by thelonius at 11:12 AM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
I'm an old man so this stuff is mother's milk to me. It's a pity that Chris Squire didn't live to see this day but seeing Geddy sit in and rain down thunder gives me some joy. And I think during the speeches everyone breathed a sigh of relief when Alex said something other than blah-blah-blah.
Yes has such a fractious and tangled history and damn, there's some band members that should have been inducted that weren't. But the RnRHOF has always sucked in this regard, making choices that leave fans pulling their hair out.
Also, Jeff Ament's t-shirt omitted Jethro Tull. C'mon man. Fucking Tull?
posted by Ber at 11:18 AM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
Yes has such a fractious and tangled history and damn, there's some band members that should have been inducted that weren't. But the RnRHOF has always sucked in this regard, making choices that leave fans pulling their hair out.
Also, Jeff Ament's t-shirt omitted Jethro Tull. C'mon man. Fucking Tull?
posted by Ber at 11:18 AM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
Next year, somebody should wear a shirt that includes all of the people that didn't make it on to Jeff Ament's shirt.
posted by Joey Michaels at 11:37 AM on April 9, 2017 [6 favorites]
posted by Joey Michaels at 11:37 AM on April 9, 2017 [6 favorites]
I have no doubt in my mind that Geddy had Squire's entire repertoire down cold decades ago.
posted by Greg_Ace at 11:40 AM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by Greg_Ace at 11:40 AM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
Ber, I have a co-worker who played the flute in high school, so I mentioned Tull to him, and he said that he dug them but he'd never heard "Bouree" or "Teacher" so I ordered the kid to check them out.
posted by jonmc at 11:44 AM on April 9, 2017
posted by jonmc at 11:44 AM on April 9, 2017
It's cool that Joan Baez got in. Wonder how many years Heart will have to wait?
posted by Halloween Jack at 11:45 AM on April 9, 2017
posted by Halloween Jack at 11:45 AM on April 9, 2017
Induct TWO women in one year? Oh, hell will freeze over first.
posted by hippybear at 12:11 PM on April 9, 2017
posted by hippybear at 12:11 PM on April 9, 2017
I was just glad to see Jon Anderson singing with the group. When he had seemingly-career-ending throat problems he 'retired' to live just down the road from me in San Luis Obispo County, then when his voice came back, he tested it with solo shows in tiny clubs in the area (all of which I sadly missed). But then Yes-with-a-new-singer-who-doesn't-sound-like-Jon did a performance at a medium-sized amphitheater just north of here and I thought there was a permanent falling out.
I also had a high-school-bandmate who played the flute and worshiped Ian from Tull and he broke into "Bouree" at random times so often the rest of the woodwind section told him to "cut it out!!!"
posted by oneswellfoop at 12:22 PM on April 9, 2017
I also had a high-school-bandmate who played the flute and worshiped Ian from Tull and he broke into "Bouree" at random times so often the rest of the woodwind section told him to "cut it out!!!"
posted by oneswellfoop at 12:22 PM on April 9, 2017
I want to see the Smiths get into the Hall because Johnny deserves it and their induction would be a fun train wreck to watch.
posted by 4ster at 12:28 PM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by 4ster at 12:28 PM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
Wonder how many years Heart will have to wait?
they've been in since 2013
posted by pyramid termite at 12:30 PM on April 9, 2017 [7 favorites]
they've been in since 2013
posted by pyramid termite at 12:30 PM on April 9, 2017 [7 favorites]
p.s. I have never paid much attention to Rush – I wouldn't say I loathe them, but they’ve never really appealed to me. However, I recently watched a video feature on Geddy Lee, and he also seems like a great guy.
I have a weird relationship with Rush. I never paid much attention to them either, especially because years ago the guy on the other side of the wall in my dorm had a copy of Signals when it came out and played it non-stop full blast. He'd put each side on repeat and let it play a couple times, then he'd flip it and do the same, then back to the other side. All day every day. Until one day he suddenly wasn't there anymore.
That was my nightmare Rush story. But 30 years later I realized I kind of liked that album. So now it's on my phone, along with Moving Pictures. Rush is weird.
Anyway, I get to post this again.
posted by lagomorphius at 12:44 PM on April 9, 2017 [3 favorites]
I have a weird relationship with Rush. I never paid much attention to them either, especially because years ago the guy on the other side of the wall in my dorm had a copy of Signals when it came out and played it non-stop full blast. He'd put each side on repeat and let it play a couple times, then he'd flip it and do the same, then back to the other side. All day every day. Until one day he suddenly wasn't there anymore.
That was my nightmare Rush story. But 30 years later I realized I kind of liked that album. So now it's on my phone, along with Moving Pictures. Rush is weird.
Anyway, I get to post this again.
posted by lagomorphius at 12:44 PM on April 9, 2017 [3 favorites]
What about the voice of Geddy Lee? I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy.
I know him, and he does.
And you're my fact-checking cuz.
posted by jonp72 at 1:02 PM on April 9, 2017 [3 favorites]
I know him, and he does.
And you're my fact-checking cuz.
posted by jonp72 at 1:02 PM on April 9, 2017 [3 favorites]
I love listening to Roundabout, but can't Rolling Stone afford to get a decent video of the performance?
During the guitar intro, let's focus on Jon, hopping up and down. During the keyboard breaks, let's watch the basses. When the basses and keyboard get together, let's finally see what Steve's doing... oh, not much.
posted by MtDewd at 1:48 PM on April 9, 2017 [3 favorites]
During the guitar intro, let's focus on Jon, hopping up and down. During the keyboard breaks, let's watch the basses. When the basses and keyboard get together, let's finally see what Steve's doing... oh, not much.
posted by MtDewd at 1:48 PM on April 9, 2017 [3 favorites]
I must admit I find the idea of The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame the least rock and roll thing I can think of, with the possible exception of fruit jellies in the shape of teddy bears, but I was wondering whether it might be possible to get The Fall in, as that could be quite funny. Especially when Mark E. Smith steps up to the microphone, pint in hand and with a cigarette dangling from his bottom lip, to berate the audience, his spite and aggression undiminished by the fact that no one can understand a word he's saying.
posted by Grangousier at 1:57 PM on April 9, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by Grangousier at 1:57 PM on April 9, 2017 [3 favorites]
Also, getting all the ex-members of The Fall on one stage could be quite amusing.
posted by Grangousier at 1:58 PM on April 9, 2017 [5 favorites]
posted by Grangousier at 1:58 PM on April 9, 2017 [5 favorites]
I was thinking about that too. There are some youtube videos of MES at British awards shows, its like he was born to not give a fuck on stage at awards shows.
Godlike Genius Awards
posted by kittensofthenight at 2:11 PM on April 9, 2017 [1 favorite]
Godlike Genius Awards
posted by kittensofthenight at 2:11 PM on April 9, 2017 [1 favorite]
Hell, they didn't include 3 of Pearl Jam's 5 drummers as part of the induction. That excluded Dave Abbruzzese. #crime
posted by hippybear at 2:14 PM on April 9, 2017
posted by hippybear at 2:14 PM on April 9, 2017
I love listening to Roundabout, but can't Rolling Stone afford to get a decent video of the performance?
HBO has the video rights to the performance.
posted by JoeZydeco at 3:04 PM on April 9, 2017
HBO has the video rights to the performance.
posted by JoeZydeco at 3:04 PM on April 9, 2017
Yeah, we'll get a 3-4 hour special in about 3 months, or something. HBO does that. Why not broadcast it live? The world will never know.
posted by hippybear at 3:07 PM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by hippybear at 3:07 PM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
I must admit I find the idea of The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame the least rock and roll thing I can think of, with the possible exception of fruit jellies in the shape of teddy bears, but I was wondering whether it might be possible to get The Fall in, as that could be quite funny. Especially when Mark E. Smith steps up to the microphone, pint in hand and with a cigarette dangling from his bottom lip, to berate the audience, his spite and aggression undiminished by the fact that no one can understand a word he's saying.
Maybe he'll just read the football scores.
posted by lagomorphius at 3:13 PM on April 9, 2017 [1 favorite]
Maybe he'll just read the football scores.
posted by lagomorphius at 3:13 PM on April 9, 2017 [1 favorite]
For anyone looking for a shockingly good imitation of Prince, the mannerisms, the clothes, the attitude, the solo, the beautiful woman, the lyrics, everything really, check this video out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s92smjLq_38
posted by Beholder at 3:48 PM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s92smjLq_38
posted by Beholder at 3:48 PM on April 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
How can we talk about the ceremony without discussing Steve Perry's very classy acceptance speech, and the biggest bummer of the night, him not rejoining Journey for a song.
posted by Beholder at 3:53 PM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by Beholder at 3:53 PM on April 9, 2017 [4 favorites]
It's cool that Joan Baez got in. Wonder how many years Heart will have to wait?
Induct TWO women in one year? Oh, hell will freeze over first.
Heart is already in.
posted by Beholder at 3:55 PM on April 9, 2017
Induct TWO women in one year? Oh, hell will freeze over first.
Heart is already in.
posted by Beholder at 3:55 PM on April 9, 2017
I just finished reading Albert Camus' La Chute, the novel from whose title The Fall purportedly got its name. It's basically a 130-page-long barroom rant, so maybe that the true derivation. But it lacks the transcendental poetry of Mr. Smith's lyrical work.
I hope to dear god that the good people in Cleveland show some respect by never offering their Induction to him.
posted by bertran at 4:27 PM on April 9, 2017
I hope to dear god that the good people in Cleveland show some respect by never offering their Induction to him.
posted by bertran at 4:27 PM on April 9, 2017
I was very surprised when at around 0:40 in the video when Geddy Lee revealed himself to be Dio all along＜=TO=BE=CONTINUED===
posted by DoctorFedora at 6:21 PM on April 9, 2017
It was great hearing and seeing Lettermsn again. He was hilarious and hell yes to his call for WZ getting in soon.
posted by Joey Michaels at 8:03 PM on April 9, 2017
posted by Joey Michaels at 8:03 PM on April 9, 2017
[A]nd hell yes to his call for WZ getting in soon.
From your lips to the ears of the vast indifference of heaven. I love WZ to death, but, if we're going to consider induction into the RnRHoF on the merits, I don't know if he makes it. As a force of rock and roll, though? As someone who *LIVED* rock and roll? Absolutely.
posted by aureliobuendia at 8:16 PM on April 9, 2017 [1 favorite]
From your lips to the ears of the vast indifference of heaven. I love WZ to death, but, if we're going to consider induction into the RnRHoF on the merits, I don't know if he makes it. As a force of rock and roll, though? As someone who *LIVED* rock and roll? Absolutely.
posted by aureliobuendia at 8:16 PM on April 9, 2017 [1 favorite]
Who decides or votes on who gets in, anyway? Can former roadies vote?
posted by thelonius at 7:27 AM on April 10, 2017
posted by thelonius at 7:27 AM on April 10, 2017
I hope to dear god that the good people in Cleveland show some respect by never offering their Induction to him.
Would venture to guess that no one connected with the RRHOF has a clue regarding the Fall or Mark E. Smith.
posted by e1c at 11:12 AM on April 11, 2017
Would venture to guess that no one connected with the RRHOF has a clue regarding the Fall or Mark E. Smith.
posted by e1c at 11:12 AM on April 11, 2017
Would venture to guess that no one connected with the RRHOF has a clue regarding the Fall or Mark E. Smith.
Which is the problem with the RRHoF. Is there a human being still alive, more or less, who embodies the spirit of rock and roll more than Mark E. Smith?
(And I don't even particularly like The Fall, but credit where credit's due.)
The RRHoF is an exercise in domestication and taxidermy more than celebration.
posted by Grangousier at 1:47 AM on April 14, 2017
Which is the problem with the RRHoF. Is there a human being still alive, more or less, who embodies the spirit of rock and roll more than Mark E. Smith?
(And I don't even particularly like The Fall, but credit where credit's due.)
The RRHoF is an exercise in domestication and taxidermy more than celebration.
posted by Grangousier at 1:47 AM on April 14, 2017
Gosh, that was mean, wasn't it? Sorry. I wonder what was in my coffee this morning to induce that?
posted by Grangousier at 3:03 AM on April 14, 2017
posted by Grangousier at 3:03 AM on April 14, 2017
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