Infiltrating Trump's MAGAverse with Jordan Klepper & Desi Lydic
July 16, 2022 7:11 PM Subscribe
Roy Wood, Jr. rounds up a couple of earlier Daily Show podcast episodes with Jordan Klepper and Desi Lydic [48m] (and some producers and other guests) talking about their work going into, um, difficult situations for news and comedy. It's an interesting look at what goes into that particular style that they do.
Jordan Klepper is so calm, so polite and oh so quick on his feet. He is a master at what he does.
posted by y2karl at 8:57 PM on July 16, 2022 [4 favorites]
posted by y2karl at 8:57 PM on July 16, 2022 [4 favorites]
A comedian's job should never be dangerous. They hate it so much. You tell them facts and it's a personal attack. It wounds their ego to be told the truth. It's because their opinions are based on feelings, so you've just hurt their feelings. It's been noted before, but these are the biggest fucking snowflakes in the world, and the hypocrisy is lost on them.
And it is fucking funny. Watch someone become red-faced with outrage at the concept of white fragility, proving its reality with an oblivious demonstration. That's funny.
But this should not be a dangerous job. Again with the hypocrisy: they can't stand free speech when they're confronted with it.
The most appalling part is when they try to be funny, it's cruel. Hillary getting raped is the punchline, GEDDIT??? 'Owning the libs for the lulz' often means laughing at people suffering. It's pretty sick and sad. When you stop seeing the humanity in others, and lose empathy, you lose your own humanity.
Once you lose your humanity, you can do terrible things and laugh.
posted by adept256 at 9:17 PM on July 16, 2022 [36 favorites]
And it is fucking funny. Watch someone become red-faced with outrage at the concept of white fragility, proving its reality with an oblivious demonstration. That's funny.
But this should not be a dangerous job. Again with the hypocrisy: they can't stand free speech when they're confronted with it.
The most appalling part is when they try to be funny, it's cruel. Hillary getting raped is the punchline, GEDDIT??? 'Owning the libs for the lulz' often means laughing at people suffering. It's pretty sick and sad. When you stop seeing the humanity in others, and lose empathy, you lose your own humanity.
Once you lose your humanity, you can do terrible things and laugh.
posted by adept256 at 9:17 PM on July 16, 2022 [36 favorites]
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
posted by SPrintF at 10:55 PM on July 16, 2022 [7 favorites]
posted by SPrintF at 10:55 PM on July 16, 2022 [7 favorites]
And if you want to listen to this on the go, this is part of a podcast feed - Daily Show: Beyond the Scenes
posted by mmascolino at 7:49 AM on July 17, 2022 [1 favorite]
posted by mmascolino at 7:49 AM on July 17, 2022 [1 favorite]
My teenage daughter loves laughing at these clips, and so do I, but I still feel like I have to try to hide the stomach churn that runs underneath: these are real people, who really believe this hateful garbage. I know she knows this intellectually, but (maybe thankfully) doesn’t yet share the raw fear it carries.
posted by gottabefunky at 8:47 AM on July 17, 2022 [1 favorite]
posted by gottabefunky at 8:47 AM on July 17, 2022 [1 favorite]
Jordan Klepper is so calm, so polite and oh so quick on his feet. He is a master at what he does.
I've long admired Klepper for his exceptional ability to do what he does, and as someone who is neither quick on her feet nor good at dealing with bigots, I've also tried to analyze it to figure out how he does it. Boiled down, I'd say that what he does is make sure he's informed himself about the issues at stake, and then he asks people straightforward, matter-of-fact questions (which they are usually very happy to answer) until he's led them by small, logical steps to the point where they realize they can't defend what they thought they believed. That bemused look on their faces when they go quiet and *almost* get it is always so hilarious.
My takeaway from this is when dealing with MAGA types the best approach is:
-- make sure *you* know what you're talking about
-- instead of telling people they're wrong or lecturing them, ask people questions until they see the inconsistencies for themselves
-- keep the exchange civil and relatively short
posted by orange swan at 9:34 AM on July 17, 2022 [9 favorites]
I've long admired Klepper for his exceptional ability to do what he does, and as someone who is neither quick on her feet nor good at dealing with bigots, I've also tried to analyze it to figure out how he does it. Boiled down, I'd say that what he does is make sure he's informed himself about the issues at stake, and then he asks people straightforward, matter-of-fact questions (which they are usually very happy to answer) until he's led them by small, logical steps to the point where they realize they can't defend what they thought they believed. That bemused look on their faces when they go quiet and *almost* get it is always so hilarious.
My takeaway from this is when dealing with MAGA types the best approach is:
-- make sure *you* know what you're talking about
-- instead of telling people they're wrong or lecturing them, ask people questions until they see the inconsistencies for themselves
-- keep the exchange civil and relatively short
posted by orange swan at 9:34 AM on July 17, 2022 [9 favorites]
> The most appalling part is when they try to be funny, it's cruel.
The conservative's sense of humor is the same as the bully's. Their idea of a punchline is a weaker person getting punched, while the strong laughs and laughs and laughs.
posted by AlSweigart at 11:03 AM on July 17, 2022 [5 favorites]
The conservative's sense of humor is the same as the bully's. Their idea of a punchline is a weaker person getting punched, while the strong laughs and laughs and laughs.
posted by AlSweigart at 11:03 AM on July 17, 2022 [5 favorites]
.... ask people questions until they see the inconsistencies for themselves
The problem is that this doesn't happen. They can't recognize cognitive dissonance. They're oblivious.
posted by BlueHorse at 12:20 PM on July 17, 2022 [3 favorites]
The problem is that this doesn't happen. They can't recognize cognitive dissonance. They're oblivious.
posted by BlueHorse at 12:20 PM on July 17, 2022 [3 favorites]
MANA!
Make (the other) American (countries) Non-geoblocked Again.
posted by Jessica Savitch's Coke Spoon at 6:00 PM on July 17, 2022
Make (the other) American (countries) Non-geoblocked Again.
posted by Jessica Savitch's Coke Spoon at 6:00 PM on July 17, 2022
I've also tried to analyze it to figure out how he does it.
Pretty sure this is the interview where he describes his planning process for the field interviews with the camera guys and security
posted by eustatic at 8:33 PM on July 17, 2022
Pretty sure this is the interview where he describes his planning process for the field interviews with the camera guys and security
posted by eustatic at 8:33 PM on July 17, 2022
Also...they are only showing you the times this approach produces gold...they aren't showing all the failures or worse the footage that is boring.
posted by mmascolino at 5:56 AM on July 18, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by mmascolino at 5:56 AM on July 18, 2022 [3 favorites]
I had to nope out of this interview around the 10 minute mark after watching people screaming at Klepper on camera for several minutes. My anxiety levels are already through the roof, and as much as I appreciate what he’s doing, I just can’t find any humor in it anymore.
posted by KGMoney at 8:00 AM on July 18, 2022
posted by KGMoney at 8:00 AM on July 18, 2022
I can't help thinking a good part of what makes him successful at this is that he's clearly a big guy capable of defending himself.
A smaller, weaker person I think would likely provoke a more violent answer from these clowns.
posted by atchafalaya at 7:53 AM on July 20, 2022
A smaller, weaker person I think would likely provoke a more violent answer from these clowns.
posted by atchafalaya at 7:53 AM on July 20, 2022
Yes, I've found myself thinking that. Being a 6'3" white straight male makes him far less likely to be attacked.
It's still dangerous for him and his team to be doing what he's doing, and they deserve credit for their fortitude. His cameraman was attacked outside the Capitol buildings on January 6th (Klepper and his team left soon after as it was getting too dangerous for them to be there), and Klepper was quick to jump in and try to protect him.
posted by orange swan at 11:06 AM on July 20, 2022 [1 favorite]
It's still dangerous for him and his team to be doing what he's doing, and they deserve credit for their fortitude. His cameraman was attacked outside the Capitol buildings on January 6th (Klepper and his team left soon after as it was getting too dangerous for them to be there), and Klepper was quick to jump in and try to protect him.
posted by orange swan at 11:06 AM on July 20, 2022 [1 favorite]
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