Best for Israel
August 4, 2004 7:36 PM Subscribe
Best For Israel.
A concerted effort to support the only democratic state in the Middle East, done webwise. My opinion: their premise's are incorrect, but I admire the effort. Agree? Disagree? We might as well indoctrinate them well into the vagaries of the Internet.
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And learn to properly pronounce "Allah Ahkbar", like they do in France.
posted by kablam at 7:52 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by kablam at 7:52 PM on August 4, 2004
[this is asinine]
posted by interrobang at 7:53 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by interrobang at 7:53 PM on August 4, 2004
Religion sucks
posted by Pretty_Generic at 7:55 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by Pretty_Generic at 7:55 PM on August 4, 2004
Well, I can see this is going to be intelligent, civil and productive, just like every other I/P thread.
posted by jonmc at 8:07 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by jonmc at 8:07 PM on August 4, 2004
Can I just clear something up... by "only democratic state in the Middle East" do people really mean "only republic in the Middle East"?
posted by Jimbob at 8:08 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by Jimbob at 8:08 PM on August 4, 2004
Hell that doesn't work either, does it? I don't get it, then.
posted by Jimbob at 8:08 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by Jimbob at 8:08 PM on August 4, 2004
The guy who made the website also did one for a Political Action Committee that hosted an event/fundraiser for Rick Santorum.
So, that means that this website is two degrees away from Santorum, who was in K Street, which was produced by George Clooney, who was in the The Thin Red Line with Sean Penn who was in Mystic River with Kevin Bacon.
posted by graventy at 8:15 PM on August 4, 2004
So, that means that this website is two degrees away from Santorum, who was in K Street, which was produced by George Clooney, who was in the The Thin Red Line with Sean Penn who was in Mystic River with Kevin Bacon.
posted by graventy at 8:15 PM on August 4, 2004
Bacon'd!
posted by Pretty_Generic at 8:17 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by Pretty_Generic at 8:17 PM on August 4, 2004
I don't get it
posted by angry modem at 8:31 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by angry modem at 8:31 PM on August 4, 2004
I heard Santorum is the answer to this little blind item.
And Bush is only Best for Israel if you want the apocalypse to happen in our lifetimes. Most of us Jews will not be voting Bush/Cheney, no matter how hard this guy tries. ...most Jews are well to Bush's left on economics, abortion, gay marriage, social programs, public education and the separation of church and state. Even the one issue where the administration sides with most Jewish voters - support of Israel - is couched in an evangelical belief of Armageddon that requires complete Jewish control of the Holy Land as a precursor to a Second Coming in which Jews would convert or die. Kerry's track record lets those single-issue voters support Israel without forming an unholy alliance with the likes of Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed.
For all the GOP hype, there's no hard evidence yet of success in swinging the Jewish vote. As Democratic strategist Steve Rabinowitz told the Philadelphia Inquirer, the attempt to convert Jewish voters is a long-running story that never seems to play out...
posted by amberglow at 8:35 PM on August 4, 2004
And Bush is only Best for Israel if you want the apocalypse to happen in our lifetimes. Most of us Jews will not be voting Bush/Cheney, no matter how hard this guy tries. ...most Jews are well to Bush's left on economics, abortion, gay marriage, social programs, public education and the separation of church and state. Even the one issue where the administration sides with most Jewish voters - support of Israel - is couched in an evangelical belief of Armageddon that requires complete Jewish control of the Holy Land as a precursor to a Second Coming in which Jews would convert or die. Kerry's track record lets those single-issue voters support Israel without forming an unholy alliance with the likes of Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed.
For all the GOP hype, there's no hard evidence yet of success in swinging the Jewish vote. As Democratic strategist Steve Rabinowitz told the Philadelphia Inquirer, the attempt to convert Jewish voters is a long-running story that never seems to play out...
posted by amberglow at 8:35 PM on August 4, 2004
Is this the Jeff Stiers of this site? Hmmm, makes sense--a climate change skeptic, worked for Giuliani, is voting for Bush.
posted by amberglow at 8:43 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by amberglow at 8:43 PM on August 4, 2004
faith sucks
I REFER YOU TO MY PREVIOUS ASSERTATION
posted by Pretty_Generic at 8:43 PM on August 4, 2004
I REFER YOU TO MY PREVIOUS ASSERTATION
posted by Pretty_Generic at 8:43 PM on August 4, 2004
Gee, Generic, now I remember why I stay away from here. Nice comeback.
posted by faith at 8:49 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by faith at 8:49 PM on August 4, 2004
stop assertating, pretty--it's getting stinky in here ; >
posted by amberglow at 8:58 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by amberglow at 8:58 PM on August 4, 2004
Well gee, Generic, you're made up word made the dictionary. Good for you. Still nothing better to say than "faith sucks"
Graventy, glad you got that right. Now answer me this, how does the identity of the web person have anything to do with the content of the site?
posted by faith at 8:59 PM on August 4, 2004
Graventy, glad you got that right. Now answer me this, how does the identity of the web person have anything to do with the content of the site?
posted by faith at 8:59 PM on August 4, 2004
Y-O-U-R
Y-O-U-APOSTROPHE-R-E
They're as DIFFERENT as NIGHT and DAY
DON'T you THINK that NIGHT and DAY are DIFFERENT
What's WRONG WITH YOU?
posted by Pretty_Generic at 9:04 PM on August 4, 2004
Y-O-U-APOSTROPHE-R-E
They're as DIFFERENT as NIGHT and DAY
DON'T you THINK that NIGHT and DAY are DIFFERENT
What's WRONG WITH YOU?
posted by Pretty_Generic at 9:04 PM on August 4, 2004
Because shooting missiles into apartment buildings is not terrorism, it's self defense!
posted by xmutex at 9:07 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by xmutex at 9:07 PM on August 4, 2004
Oh gee, you caught me in a typo. Now where's the intelligent comment? Oh right, you don't have one. Darn five digit member numbers, IQ seems to have declined as the numbers got larger.
posted by faith at 9:08 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by faith at 9:08 PM on August 4, 2004
*shushes the baby jesus*
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:11 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:11 PM on August 4, 2004
"Now answer me this, how does the identity of the web person have anything to do with the content of the site?"
Because bacon isn't kosher!
What do I win? A ticket to heaven?
posted by 2sheets at 9:12 PM on August 4, 2004
Because bacon isn't kosher!
What do I win? A ticket to heaven?
posted by 2sheets at 9:12 PM on August 4, 2004
I blame the Semites.
posted by Pretty_Generic at 9:14 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by Pretty_Generic at 9:14 PM on August 4, 2004
The internet was invented to keep morons occupied with endless Israel/Palestine flamewars while the Vogons kidnap us one by one and implant us with mind-control chips.
Also, I'm with Pretty_Generic on this one:
Faith (as in blindly accepting an idea without questioning it) sucks.
posted by spazzm at 9:16 PM on August 4, 2004
Also, I'm with Pretty_Generic on this one:
Faith (as in blindly accepting an idea without questioning it) sucks.
posted by spazzm at 9:16 PM on August 4, 2004
I agree with you that a person who creates a site is not responsible for its resulting content, in most instances.
However, there is a connection between the pro-Bush Best of Isreal site that claims "BestforIsrael.org is not affiliated with any campaign or political party," and another website of similar if not indentical politics (ie. pro-Isreal, pro-conservative politician), the YJLPAC. The YJLPAC has an elephant for an icon, a neat graphic touch I must say sincerely, which is a party identifier. Both of these sites were created by you. You are listed as the webmaster for the second. While I personally believe that one can create a website and be removed from its beliefs, I do not think that one cannot continually administer a website and not be entirely divided from its beliefs.
And good god do I want to stay out of an Israel/Palestine flamewar.
posted by graventy at 9:24 PM on August 4, 2004
However, there is a connection between the pro-Bush Best of Isreal site that claims "BestforIsrael.org is not affiliated with any campaign or political party," and another website of similar if not indentical politics (ie. pro-Isreal, pro-conservative politician), the YJLPAC. The YJLPAC has an elephant for an icon, a neat graphic touch I must say sincerely, which is a party identifier. Both of these sites were created by you. You are listed as the webmaster for the second. While I personally believe that one can create a website and be removed from its beliefs, I do not think that one cannot continually administer a website and not be entirely divided from its beliefs.
And good god do I want to stay out of an Israel/Palestine flamewar.
posted by graventy at 9:24 PM on August 4, 2004
A person who creates an advocacy site for one issue or another is certainly responsible for it. Finding out who that person is, since there's basically no info about him on the site (a red-flag-raising thing in itself, as reputable sites put more info about their creators online) is expected.
posted by amberglow at 9:39 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by amberglow at 9:39 PM on August 4, 2004
People, for pity's fuckin' sake, can't you deal with the issues instead of your own egos? This is folk using the web to foster an idea. Isn't that what it's supposed to be about? Good idea, bad idea? Deal with the fucking idea ... would you please?
posted by Wulfgar! at 9:39 PM on August 4, 2004
posted by Wulfgar! at 9:39 PM on August 4, 2004
People, for pity's fuckin' sake, can't you deal with the issues instead of your own egos?
No.
posted by homunculus at 9:48 PM on August 4, 2004
No.
posted by homunculus at 9:48 PM on August 4, 2004
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You lost me on the first sentence.
The world will be a better place when we evolve away from what passes for moral clarity as demonstrated by this administration.
posted by 2sheets at 7:47 PM on August 4, 2004