Twisted little people go out every day and deface this great city...we call them advertising agencies and town planners.
January 6, 2007 2:53 PM   Subscribe

"Is graffiti art or vandalism? That word has a lot of negative connotations and it alienates people, so no, I don't like to use the word 'art' at all.".The 'art' of my hometown boy, BANKSY.
posted by Rufus T. Firefly (28 comments total)

This post was deleted for the following reason: we've seen banksy before here, often



 
art.

vandalism.

art!

vandalism!


art!

VARTALISM!
posted by nola at 2:58 PM on January 6, 2007



It's "art" as long as it's not your property being defaced, I guess.
posted by wfc123 at 3:04 PM on January 6, 2007


I like Banksy as much as the next guy but he has been covered before.
posted by nathancaswell at 3:04 PM on January 6, 2007


But I love Duck Soup!
posted by nathancaswell at 3:08 PM on January 6, 2007


Rufus T. Firefly "Twisted little people go out every day and deface this great city...we call them advertising agencies and town planners."

Using, increasingly, the medium of...graffiti!!

The movie "pi" was advertised in Tokyo by someone (presumably the indie movie theatre owners) going out and spraypainting π symbols everywhere, which remained there for years after the movie was no longer showing.

Sony has gotten in trouble for spraypainting PSP graffiti in North American cities.

Microsoft has used graffiti to advertise Gears of War.

IBM used graffiti to advertise Linux.

To my knowledge, those four were all unauthorized and illegal. There have been a few other cases, but I can't remember the details.
posted by Bugbread at 3:10 PM on January 6, 2007


art or vandalism?

Don't care. Whatever it is, it's really compelling. I find this one fascinating.
posted by quin at 3:18 PM on January 6, 2007


Ah, another one: HBO vandalized New York streets to adverise "Sex in the City".

In the UK, Saatchi & Saatchi used graffiti to advertise liquor. Boxfresh used it to advertise clothes.
posted by Bugbread at 3:20 PM on January 6, 2007


The last word on Banksy:

"Renegade urban graffiti artist Banksy is clearly a guffhead of massive proportions, yet he's often feted as a genius straddling the bleeding edge of now. Why? Because his work looks dazzlingly clever to idiots. And apparently that'll do."
posted by game warden to the events rhino at 3:23 PM on January 6, 2007 [1 favorite]


Banksy has been done to death on here, and is about as interesting and subversive as the targets he mocks.
posted by fire&wings at 3:32 PM on January 6, 2007


Yeah, people who think Banksy is clever are the sam... no I can't be bothered.
posted by cillit bang at 4:04 PM on January 6, 2007


Bugbread:

Are you sure that was for the movie Pi? Up in the Northwest area there was a crew of taggers using the pi symbol for something like 3 or 4 years straight. Had nothing to do with the movie.
posted by yeloson at 4:15 PM on January 6, 2007


If I were a pedant, I'd use the word graffito.
posted by furtive at 4:16 PM on January 6, 2007


yeloson, I believe Bugbread is correct regarding Pi. Bomb the System used a similar campaign at Tribeca 2003.
posted by nathancaswell at 4:19 PM on January 6, 2007


I wish it were legal for property owners to shoot graffiti "artists."
posted by keswick at 4:20 PM on January 6, 2007


because ending someone's life with a bullet is a rational and proportionate response to putting some paint on your wall.


You're a jackass, Keswick.
posted by stenseng at 4:39 PM on January 6, 2007


because ending someone's life with a bullet may discourage some other asshole from putting some paint on my wall.
posted by Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese at 4:43 PM on January 6, 2007


I hadn't seen graffiti being used as advertising, interesting. The London Borough of Camden prosecuted a senior Sony executive for fly-posting last year. The court gave her an anti-social behaviour order - more commonly associated with rowdy yoof than major Japanese companies.
posted by athenian at 4:44 PM on January 6, 2007


Who said you had to kill them? A few flesh wounds and they'll never be back.
posted by IronLizard at 4:44 PM on January 6, 2007


because ending someone's life with a bullet may discourage some other asshole from putting some paint on my wall

Wow. Kraftmatic, I didn't realize you were an asshole. I learned something new today!
posted by jonson at 5:01 PM on January 6, 2007 [1 favorite]


FREE BORF!
posted by bardic at 5:02 PM on January 6, 2007


I got to protect my paint, jonson.
posted by Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese at 5:11 PM on January 6, 2007


Thank you so much for that link, game warden to the events rhino. (Note that it was written by the guy who used to do TVGoHome, and who--along with Chris Morris--created the hilarious and, in its own way, kind of profound, comedy Nathan Barley.)
posted by Ian A.T. at 5:28 PM on January 6, 2007


I wish it were legal for property owners to shoot graffiti "artists."

It would be even more fun if graffiti artists could shoot back as well. That'd seperate the men from the boys on *both* sides.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 5:43 PM on January 6, 2007


Cornbread or Cool Earl?
posted by fixedgear at 5:49 PM on January 6, 2007


Unable to rise to the erudite level of proper cacocalia, Keswick finds it easier to ape other buffoons in his trolls.
posted by isopraxis at 5:54 PM on January 6, 2007


Yeah, I'm with Brooker on this - only a thicko would find Banksy clever.

Though, because of the carefully preserved anonymity thing, and having met him at what I think was his first gallery show - predictably, much of the work was presented on specially built and distressed walls - I do sometimes wonder whether 'Banksy' might be a rather interesting project by an unknown artist or group of artists intended to lampoon the commercialisation of street art, unthinkingly cynical attitudes to contemporary art, &c. Certainly a lot of his work leans on specific art-historical contexts in a way that doesn't look accidental, and which doesn't fit with his supposed anti-art stance. Even the fact that he gained attention at a time when Bristol was fashionable, in a Sunday supplement way, seems fishy.

Re: graffiti advertising - the insufferably dull producer Mylo promoted one of his albums with a blanket graffiti campaign in the UK, and in Glasgow many of those stencils are accompanied with a stencil in the same style that reads 'Stop Corporate Graffiti'.
posted by jack_mo at 5:55 PM on January 6, 2007 [1 favorite]


Fixedgear: cornbread! Can anyone find a picture of the elephant?
posted by nathancaswell at 5:55 PM on January 6, 2007


Let me shoot a load all over Banksy's mother. If he calls that art, I'm fine. If not, I hope all the bad things in life happen to ONLY him.
posted by Debaser626 at 6:07 PM on January 6, 2007


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