Treaties
December 29, 2006 3:07 PM Subscribe
There are billions and billions of treaties on the Internet. These are just a few of my favourite ones.
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No, you don't get a Wii.
posted by cillit bang at 3:09 PM on December 29, 2006
posted by cillit bang at 3:09 PM on December 29, 2006
In your enthusiasm you seem to have forgotten that the actual post has to have a link in it.
posted by languagehat at 3:10 PM on December 29, 2006
posted by languagehat at 3:10 PM on December 29, 2006
Already got one, dude. Anyways, back to the matter at hand...
posted by Meatbomb at 3:11 PM on December 29, 2006
posted by Meatbomb at 3:11 PM on December 29, 2006
it created a map of Europe that is still recognisable today
that's because it looks like it was created in power point
posted by pyramid termite at 3:15 PM on December 29, 2006
that's because it looks like it was created in power point
posted by pyramid termite at 3:15 PM on December 29, 2006
PoopPoop
posted by loquacious at 3:20 PM on December 29, 2006 [1 favorite]
posted by loquacious at 3:20 PM on December 29, 2006 [1 favorite]
The Treaty of Westphalia of 1648, between the Holy Roman Emperor and the King of France and their respective allies, is my favourite for a lot of reasons: it is often considered the starting point of the modern era, with the recognition of sovereign nation-states and the creation of an international system
The first in a long list of European peace treaties that those same sovereign states routinely broke throughout the following 300 years whensoever it suited their personal interests (like most peace treaties, I suppose).
posted by kisch mokusch at 3:24 PM on December 29, 2006
The first in a long list of European peace treaties that those same sovereign states routinely broke throughout the following 300 years whensoever it suited their personal interests (like most peace treaties, I suppose).
posted by kisch mokusch at 3:24 PM on December 29, 2006
That's how sovereignty works; it's flexible. Always has been, always will be.
posted by koeselitz at 3:28 PM on December 29, 2006
posted by koeselitz at 3:28 PM on December 29, 2006
Is this really that poopy, loq? I tried so hard, honest.
posted by Meatbomb at 3:29 PM on December 29, 2006
posted by Meatbomb at 3:29 PM on December 29, 2006
What's wrong with you people? Is it too much too ask that you every now and then give a little nod to the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo?
posted by mds35 at 3:30 PM on December 29, 2006
posted by mds35 at 3:30 PM on December 29, 2006
*looks around at bits of meat shrapnel scattered around the blue*
posted by brain_drain at 3:30 PM on December 29, 2006
posted by brain_drain at 3:30 PM on December 29, 2006
*glances at the puddle of cerebrospinal fluid on the floor*
posted by nebulawindphone at 3:32 PM on December 29, 2006
posted by nebulawindphone at 3:32 PM on December 29, 2006
Which internet treaty allows me to post an image of it in this thread?
posted by cytherea at 3:33 PM on December 29, 2006
posted by cytherea at 3:33 PM on December 29, 2006
Treaty Williams.
posted by soundofsuburbia at 3:41 PM on December 29, 2006 [3 favorites]
posted by soundofsuburbia at 3:41 PM on December 29, 2006 [3 favorites]
Only 11,493 treaties to go
posted by InfidelZombie at 3:44 PM on December 29, 2006
posted by InfidelZombie at 3:44 PM on December 29, 2006
That's how sovereignty works; it's flexible. Always has been, always will be.
I know, and I agree that it should be that way.
It's just that if you read much about the history of Europe (and I don't hold myself to be an expert here), and see just how readily peace treaties were ignored, you'd start to wonder what they're for. Seems to me, the more potent inhibitor of war is the threat of reprisal from an invaded nation's allies.
posted by kisch mokusch at 3:47 PM on December 29, 2006
I know, and I agree that it should be that way.
It's just that if you read much about the history of Europe (and I don't hold myself to be an expert here), and see just how readily peace treaties were ignored, you'd start to wonder what they're for. Seems to me, the more potent inhibitor of war is the threat of reprisal from an invaded nation's allies.
posted by kisch mokusch at 3:47 PM on December 29, 2006
Somebody posts a link to the whole internet in 5... 4... 3... 2...
posted by koeselitz at 4:01 PM on December 29, 2006
posted by koeselitz at 4:01 PM on December 29, 2006
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The world's first peace treaty, between Ramses the Great, ruler of Egypt, and Hattusili, King of and the Hittites. Spin has been with us since the beginning - the Egyptian text claims the Hittites were the ones asking for peace, the Hittite text vice-versa.
The Peace of Nicias of 421BC was short-lived - the Pelopponesian war continued, after a short break, until 404 BC. The Athenians lost, and had to accept the Spartan terms. You can read about this war in Thucydides' History, and Xenophon's Hellenica.
The Treaty of Westphalia of 1648, between the Holy Roman Emperor and the King of France and their respective allies, is my favourite for a lot of reasons: it is often considered the starting point of the modern era, with the recognition of sovereign nation-states and the creation of an international system; it created a map of Europe that is still recognisable today (including the establishment of the Netherlands); and, finally, it is long and meaty, full of interesting detail. Hitler and the Communists hated it and al-Qaeda wants to destroy it, so it must be good.
The modern and medieval ages overlap. it wasn't until the Lateran pact of 1929 that the Catholic Church finally got out of the wholesale real-estate business to focus on their core competencies.
The source material for the lead up to World War Two is fascinating stuff. Here's the Munich Agreement of 1938 and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of 1939.
Here's a meta treaty: the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties.
Finally, the most bestest thing ever written down: the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
posted by Meatbomb at 3:08 PM on December 29, 2006