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April 27, 2011 10:07 PM   Subscribe

The True Battle of Chernobyl (SLYT)
posted by mexican (20 comments total) 33 users marked this as a favorite

 
Thanks for the post, mexican. Looking forward to viewing later when I have the time.

I think it's appropriate to link here to this article:

Revolutionary care: Castro's doctors give hope to the children of Chernobyl

thanks to nicyskye, who linked to the article in another thread
posted by flapjax at midnite at 10:22 PM on April 27, 2011


Excellent video. Thanks for posting this mexican.

So many of the same lies, mistakes, withholding of information by Tepco and the Japanese government that also happened in Chernobyl. Tragic that replay of history.

Tonight I watched a PBS documentary about the immense volcanic explosions of Krakatoa in the late 1800's and the huge tsunamis that followed. It all made so much vivid sense now in light of the Tohoku earthquake in Japan on 3/11. What once seemed in the distant past was suddenly painfully fresh.

And now videos about Chernobyl, that once seemed vintage, safely in The Past, almost quaint in the mid-80's bygone era film colors, now all are terrifyingly up to date in light of Fukushima.

Wow, I didn't know there was a second explosion potential "that would have wiped out half of Europe"??!!! Omg!!

Related. ouch.

Arnie Gundersen says basically Three Mile Island and Chernobyl bookended the nuclear industry on one side and now Fukushima is the bookend this side that will terminate the nuclear industry, the costs are simply too great. There must be a better way. I utterly agree with him.
posted by nickyskye at 12:02 AM on April 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


Finished watching the whole thing. Wow, that was intense.

Listening to the vast quantity of critical and dangerous lies perpetrated by the authorities connected with the Chernobyl nuclear industry catastrophe, the insane denial about the radiation, denial of inconvenient truths, I am more inclined to believe Professor Busby's statements.

Mind boggling to hear Prof. P. Pellerin, Director of the Central Ionizing-Radiation Protection Service of the National Institute of Health and Medical Research deny the radioactive plume from Chernobyl crossed over France.

The conspiracy to suppress the truths about Chernobyl is staggering.

Just learned about the use of zeolite in treating ration connected with Chernobyl.
posted by nickyskye at 1:53 AM on April 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


The zeolite info is very interesting.
posted by Splunge at 4:10 AM on April 28, 2011


This always happen to me...

heh... its cool though. It is an excellent documentary and deserves a lot more attention.
posted by andryeevna at 5:30 AM on April 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Nice docu (watching it just now), thanks for sharing, andryeevna & mexican. I remember how upset I was about the mass-slaughtering of reindeer, all that meat gone to waste, all those berries we didn't eat. Better safe than sorry.
posted by dabitch at 6:21 AM on April 28, 2011


I was in Sweden, hence the reindeer slaughter.
posted by dabitch at 6:29 AM on April 28, 2011


History only confirms the reasonableness of paranoia about things nuclear.
posted by clarknova at 6:29 AM on April 28, 2011 [4 favorites]


"Our mission was this: dig a 150-meter tunnel ... Then dig a room 30 meters long and 30 meters wide to hold a refrigeration device for cooling down the reactor."

This under the white-hot pool of radioactive magma.
posted by dragonsi55 at 7:02 AM on April 28, 2011 [4 favorites]


Pretty amazing stuff. Some of the statements from officials are mind-boggling.

"A second explosion would have rendered Europe unihabitable..."
posted by jet_manifesto at 7:13 AM on April 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment (pdf). From the Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences (2009).
posted by Kabanos at 8:45 AM on April 28, 2011


"Our mission was this: dig a 150-meter tunnel ... Then dig a room 30 meters long and 30 meters wide to hold a refrigeration device for cooling down the reactor."

This under the white-hot pool of radioactive magma.


It certainly makes a person grateful for a boring desk job.
posted by infinitywaltz at 9:25 AM on April 28, 2011


Great film! Thanks for posting!
posted by ashtabula to opelika at 10:40 AM on April 28, 2011


Amazed to see the Chernobyl Liquidator medals up on eBay.
posted by nickyskye at 2:30 PM on April 28, 2011


Anyone got some links discussing this feared second explosion that would have rendered Europe inhabitable? As far as I can tell they're talking about a steam explosion but someone in this video (IIRC, watched it this morning) said 3 - 5 megatons? Is that right? The video hints at some sort of nuclear detonation. I'm trying to find an explaination but haven't yet.
posted by BeerFilter at 7:20 PM on April 28, 2011


Ya, I was going to ask exactly the same question BeerFilter. It just doesn't add up very well. I can offer that there was a hell of a lot of stored heat in the molten core, and dumping that on the right amount of water would be dramatic, but 3 megatons just doesn't sound plausible.
posted by Chuckles at 10:31 PM on April 28, 2011


I think most of the liquidator medals are just souvenirs, not medals given out to the liquidators at the time. This is the real thing
posted by estuardo at 3:51 AM on April 29, 2011


On second thoughts, that link seems to be 25 year anniversary medal. Still, I am sure most of the medals on ebay are not the real thing, given the number that are sold in Ukraine for a few dollars each.
posted by estuardo at 3:53 AM on April 29, 2011


I feel bad about all the fakes, as that probably reduces the prices on legitimate liquidator badges, and a lot of liquidators could probably use the money.

And then that's sad, because people who sacrificed so much now need to pawn the symbol of their sacrifice.
posted by mccarty.tim at 6:14 AM on April 29, 2011


pawn the symbol of your sacrifice
get what you can, it's a roll of the dice
they'll offer you peanuts, but don't think twice
just pawn the symbol of your sacrifice

pawn the symbol of your sacrifice
somebody's coming, and they'll pay the price
pie in the sky, you ain't getting a slice
pawn the symbol of your sacrifice.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 10:05 AM on April 29, 2011


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