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Kid's reaction to meeting a gay couple for the first time. (slyt)
posted by phunniemee (101 comments total) 48 users marked this as a favorite

 
That kid is absolutely right. Ping pong is awesome.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 7:27 PM on July 11, 2011 [4 favorites]


That wasn't difficult, now was it?
posted by kimdog at 7:27 PM on July 11, 2011 [17 favorites]


Hey, jerks on the wrong side of human rights and history: behold the future. This is what we mean when we say it's just a matter of time and demographics. Now watch this a few more times and see if you can follow the logic.
posted by FelliniBlank at 7:29 PM on July 11, 2011 [37 favorites]


D'aww. I don't really have anything to share other than that kid just slays me. Eee.
posted by Neofelis at 7:32 PM on July 11, 2011


"So that means you love each other"

So simply the truth.
posted by gomichild at 7:33 PM on July 11, 2011 [34 favorites]


That was adorable and awesome.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 7:34 PM on July 11, 2011


dawwwwwwww
posted by Hoopo at 7:34 PM on July 11, 2011


I love the look of intense concentration around the time he asks "you're both husbands?"
posted by Gymnopedist at 7:38 PM on July 11, 2011


I am pleased to see that this is back on YouTube, but it's a viral video from circa March 2010 that was pulled after a few weeks by the child's parents. Can't find it at the moment but I believe it was covered on the Blue back then.

husbands and husbands!
posted by telegraph at 7:41 PM on July 11, 2011 [1 favorite]


why is the 700 club in the "related videos"? Icky. Also: this rules. The kid's weird kid accent is hilarious: "You love each OTHAH." Aw.
posted by sweetkid at 7:41 PM on July 11, 2011


My favorite thing is the little guy's world-weariness when he says, "I usually see husbands and wives...you're my first husbands and husbands!" It's like he's traveled the world and can't believe there's a new thing he has yet to encounter.
posted by xingcat at 7:42 PM on July 11, 2011 [47 favorites]


I feel like that kid is definitely gonna grow up to be a chatty dentist. I can feel this in my bones.
posted by Greg Nog at 7:42 PM on July 11, 2011 [55 favorites]


What sealed the adorableness for me was the sudden and totally true to children lack of interest in adult stuff at the end. You can almost see his mind going 'Right, okay, two husbands, fair enough. YAY FOR PING PONG. Okay, I'll share the awesomeness of ping pong, if they want to play. NOW I'M OFF OFF FOR PING PONG. YAY'
posted by lesbiassparrow at 7:43 PM on July 11, 2011 [16 favorites]


This kid just internalized and accepted in 60 seconds what our elder statesmen have been choking on for 60 years.
posted by WhitenoisE at 7:43 PM on July 11, 2011 [58 favorites]


Oh God, the comments section for that video is half 'eeeee' and half hate.
posted by Slackermagee at 7:44 PM on July 11, 2011


As usual, childish innocence trumps adult prejudice. That, and ping pong.
posted by kinnakeet at 7:45 PM on July 11, 2011 [4 favorites]


(´・ω・`)
posted by p3on at 7:46 PM on July 11, 2011 [2 favorites]


This is a bit of a YouTube classic, from a couple of years back, no? Pretty sure I saw it first time around on MeFi.

Never mind, the 'you are much alike' line is still just lovely.
posted by jack_mo at 7:47 PM on July 11, 2011 [1 favorite]


Ping Pong, hey? So that's what the kids are calling it these days.
posted by mannequito at 7:47 PM on July 11, 2011


Usually I think anonymity on webcomments is a good thing, can't understand why people demand to know your true-name, but, yes, in some of the comments it's strange to think that such is the stuff a co-worker or guy next to me might be thinking.
posted by skepticallypleased at 7:47 PM on July 11, 2011


I love this because my son is exactly like this. Except he's not so surprised. He says he hates girls, because they have girl germs, and has been planning on marrying his best friend Oliver (pronounced Oviler) for months.
posted by Jimbob at 7:47 PM on July 11, 2011 [11 favorites]


So, just remember: next time you see or hear some horrible social conservative bigot bloviating about how homosexuality is a perverted choice that will destroy the American family and call down god's wrath or somethingsomethingmumblegrumble, it took a small child ~sixty seconds to absorb the concept of gay marriage, be stoked about it and then be entirely over it and ready to play ping-pong again. Rick Santorum, James Dobson, Michelle Bachman, Pat Robertson and every other homophobe on the planet are the mental became the mental and social inferiors of a small child in one. minute.
posted by EatTheWeak at 7:49 PM on July 11, 2011 [16 favorites]


Right now the only age group in the US that opposes gay marriage are people 55 and older. Twenty years from now when that kid is grown up, no one will even remember what all the fuss was about.
posted by octothorpe at 7:49 PM on July 11, 2011 [6 favorites]


(also: "You guys can play if you want" omg, omg)
posted by EatTheWeak at 7:50 PM on July 11, 2011


Right now the only age group in the US that opposes gay marriage are people 55 and older.

For some reason, this surprises and disappoints me. I thought the olds were more live and let live.
posted by sweetkid at 7:51 PM on July 11, 2011 [1 favorite]


On not-previewing, telegraph has it. IIRC, it was pulled because the YouTube commenters were (predictably) vile about the kid.
posted by jack_mo at 7:51 PM on July 11, 2011 [2 favorites]


(Gah. last sentence should read: Rick Santorum, James Dobson, Michelle Bachman, Pat Robertson and every other homophobe on the planet became the mental and social inferiors of a small child in one. minute.)
posted by EatTheWeak at 7:51 PM on July 11, 2011 [1 favorite]


This kid sounds like my 75 year old Mah Jongg teacher. That alone makes him awesome.
posted by Leezie at 7:53 PM on July 11, 2011 [3 favorites]


This should be a good rule of thumb for our congressmen. Any time you feel yourself getting GRARy over a constituents right to personal freedom: STOP. Ping-Pong time!

Want to legislate which substances are moral or immoral to ingest? STOP. Ping-Pong time!

Getting an itch to pass some kind of obscenity law? STOP. Ping-Pong time!

Get an urge to make life miserable for two people who love each other? You guessed it, break out the paddles boys.
posted by WhitenoisE at 7:57 PM on July 11, 2011 [11 favorites]


Sounds a little bit like a kid version of Christopher Walken to me, particularly the way he says "so that means you love each other."
posted by uri at 7:59 PM on July 11, 2011


I feel the need to mass-mail this to a bunch of politicians and say "This is how it's handled, guys."

This kid is fantastic. Learn new thing, okay, now TIME FOR PING PONG!
posted by cmyk at 8:00 PM on July 11, 2011 [3 favorites]


Right now the only age group in the US that opposes gay marriage are people 55 and older.

Wrong. People 55 years or older who hate gay marriage have plenty of kids and neighbors who are under 55 who oppose gay marriage. Plenty of the people signing petitions against gay marriage are younger than 55. Plenty of the politicians in office who are the loudest voices against gay marriage are under 55. Anti-gay groups are banking on the fact that people aren't paying attention enough to know that they are concentrating all their firepower on recruiting the young to their hate -- just the way they accuse gays of recruiting the young to their "lifestyle."

It is a delusion to think that "Oh, we can just just kick back and wait till all the old fucks die off." This is the second time I've seen this false meme make an appearance on mefi today and it's just plain wrong.
posted by blucevalo at 8:00 PM on July 11, 2011 [13 favorites]


"So that means you love each other?"

"Yeah."

"Yeah."

Thanks, this was fantastic.
posted by Devils Rancher at 8:04 PM on July 11, 2011 [1 favorite]


bluecevalo, I'm not sure what your point is, but the polling numbers are extremely clear that support for gay marriage is strongly correlated with age, and that those under 35 are overwhelmingly in favor.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 8:10 PM on July 11, 2011 [4 favorites]


I don't think you're right about that, blucevalo. According to this poll, 70% of Americans ages 18-34, 53% of those ages 35-54, and 39% of those over age 55 support legalizing same-sex marriage. I'm not saying we should be complacent, and of course it could be that younger people will get more conservative as they age. (And it's also relevant that older people are more likely to vote.) But there really does seem to be a significant generational divide.
posted by craichead at 8:12 PM on July 11, 2011 [1 favorite]


Right now the only age group in the US that opposes gay marriage are people 55 and older.

Wrong. People 55 years or older who hate gay marriage have plenty of kids and neighbors who are under 55 who oppose gay marriage.


Um... can you go into a little more depth on this? Because nobody's claiming that every single person under 55 loves the gays and everyone over 55 is a bigot. The point is that age is incredibly strongly correlated with approval of gay marriage, and gay rights in general. For example, this poll (warning: big-ass PDF with methodology etc) from March has over-50% approval of gay marriage up to age 50, with a whopping 45% approval in the 50-64 segment. Every age group approves of gay marriage more and more every year, and the increases are dramatic. All of the evidence points to a huge and rapid shift in public opinion, even before taking into account the fact that people are aging and younger, more-liberal types take their elders' place.

Nobody's arguing that we don't have to do any work, but the overwhelming conclusion I come to from recent years' polling is that there is an enormous generational factor at play here, and public opinion is trending very rapidly toward much greater approval of gay rights, on average. Do you have any evidence to contradict this?

ON AN UNRELATED NOTE that kid is great, and I love how "a husband and a husband" is noteworthy mainly in its novelty.
posted by Tomorrowful at 8:13 PM on July 11, 2011 [3 favorites]


uri: "Sounds a little bit like a kid version of Christopher Walken to me, particularly the way he says "so that means you love each other.""

great, now I want to see a video of Christopher Walken mimicking this kid's exact words.

Really, really bad.
posted by bwg at 8:17 PM on July 11, 2011 [7 favorites]


Wrong. People 55 years or older who hate gay marriage have plenty of kids and neighbors who are under 55 who oppose gay marriage.

Well sure but I didn't mean every single person in each age demographic but, as people above have posted, the younger the person, the more likely they are to support gay marriage. As someone who's closer to 55 than 18, it makes me very happy that people younger than me have a lot more common sense about this issue than my peers do.
posted by octothorpe at 8:21 PM on July 11, 2011 [1 favorite]


Thanks blucevalo. Sometimes the elderly grar here bothers me. I understand it demographically, but still doesn't feel so great to hear that others are cheering on your demise.

And yeah that kid is awesome. Loved whitenoise's comment:

This kid just internalized and accepted in 60 seconds what our elder statesmen have been choking on for 60 years.
posted by marsha56 at 8:29 PM on July 11, 2011 [1 favorite]


I think clearly the answer to all of these debates about which groups are more opposed to gay marriage than others is to give 6 year olds the vote. They can't screw things up any more than the adults have.
posted by lesbiassparrow at 8:30 PM on July 11, 2011 [2 favorites]


This kid just internalized and accepted in 60 seconds what our elder statesmen have been choking on for 60 years.

Just like our elder statesmen internalized and accepted in 60 seconds all the things adults told them when they were kids. Hmm.
posted by The World Famous at 8:31 PM on July 11, 2011 [6 favorites]


Articulate and inquisitive kids are the best.
posted by painquale at 8:40 PM on July 11, 2011


I still think it's creepy when adults use kids to make a point. Even if the kid is right.
posted by toekneebullard at 8:41 PM on July 11, 2011 [5 favorites]


LETS LEGALIZE GAY RIGHTS AND THEN GO PLAY PING PONG!
posted by wheelieman at 8:41 PM on July 11, 2011 [4 favorites]


First it is husbands and husbands. Next it is husbands, husbands, and robotsises or doggy woggies. DOGGY WOGGIES!
posted by munchingzombie at 8:41 PM on July 11, 2011 [5 favorites]


This is pretty much the only social issue I feel optimistic about. So yay love & equality!
posted by smirkette at 8:44 PM on July 11, 2011


WhitenoisE: ... what our elder statesmen have been choking on for 60 years.

I see what you did there.

...Too soon?
posted by Greg_Ace at 8:45 PM on July 11, 2011 [4 favorites]


LETS LEGALIZE GAY RIGHTS AND THEN GO PLAY PING PONG!

Somebody please go make this a bumper sticker!
posted by cyphill at 8:48 PM on July 11, 2011 [1 favorite]


Two things I love about this video:

1. Everything
2. He remembers to use the good manners and invite them to play ping pong too if they want to
posted by FAMOUS MONSTER at 8:51 PM on July 11, 2011 [14 favorites]


This kid just internalized and accepted in 60 seconds what our elder statesmen have been choking on for 60 years.

Dear Congress,

We're gonna go and play ping pong now. You can play if you want to.
posted by NoraReed at 8:51 PM on July 11, 2011 [9 favorites]


I was talking to a group partner in my Genetics class once and like many people he was surprised to meet someone in San Francisco who was actually born there and had grown up there. He asked me how I viewed gay people as an SF native. I told him that there was a gay couple that lived right next door to me when I was a kid, and first I thought "gay" just meant "two people that lived together", then I thought it meant two people in a relationship of any kind, then I finally grasped what it actually meant. Also, there was a gay person who lived right across the street from me, and around the time he moved away a gay couple with adopted twins moved in next door to that house. It's never been anything but totally normal to me. I suspect that in the future there will be a lot more people that can truthfully make that statement.

Oh, and the kid's adorable.
posted by MattMangels at 8:52 PM on July 11, 2011 [2 favorites]


Absolutely proves that Hate is taught. That kid is awesome.
posted by helmutdog at 8:55 PM on July 11, 2011


This weekend I was talking to a kid at a convention, and I mentioned that in my city, Wheel of Fortune came on before Jeopardy! She had a harder time grasping that than this guy had grasping this.
posted by persona at 9:04 PM on July 11, 2011 [8 favorites]


one day this kid will realise that there are other options--the best thing about this for me, is that its the first time another option is presented, and he is so open to it, and so the optimism of choice.

also, i'm really bad at ping pong.
posted by PinkMoose at 9:08 PM on July 11, 2011


Ten years ago, when Kid #2 was five years old, he announced that when he grew up, he was going to marry me (his mother). The rest of the conversation went this way:

"You can't marry me, honey. I'm already married," I explained.
"You are? Who to?"
"I'm married to Daddy."
"Oh," said Kid 2. "Then when I grow up I'm going to marry Kid #1."
"You can't marry him, either. You're brothers."
"But Uncle Fred and Uncle Joe [my best friend from university and his partner] are married."
"Yes, but they're not brothers. And they're not exactly married."
"Huh?"
"Uncle Fred and Uncle Joe love each other and live together just like Mummy and Daddy do. But in this country, in order to be married, you have to have a piece of paper from the government. And the government won't give that piece of paper to two women who love each other or two men. Only to a man and a woman."
Kid 2 got quite sad and a little bit angry. "That's not fair," he said. I agreed that it wasn't fair.

I'm delighted to say that about 7 years later we all went to visit Uncles Fred and Joe on the occasion of their 25th anniversary, at which time they also went to city hall and got married. But before same-sex marriage was legal in Canada, a five year old nailed the facts of the issue.
posted by angiep at 9:30 PM on July 11, 2011 [33 favorites]


I still think it's creepy when adults use kids to make a point. Even if the kid is right.

Man, I feel the exact opposite. They're not using this kid. This is a happy, friendly, respectful conversation where a kid works through something new and challenging in his mind and out loud, is satisfied with what he settles on, and moves on with his life.
posted by ORthey at 9:31 PM on July 11, 2011 [9 favorites]


I feel like that kid is definitely gonna grow up to be a chatty dentist. I can feel this in my bones.

Totally off-topic, but I literally laughed out loud when I read this. I wish I could favourite it twice.
posted by asnider at 9:44 PM on July 11, 2011 [1 favorite]


"So how was your day, son?"

"Okay. Met a couple of guys who were married to each other. Played some ping pong. You know."

Now we just need to the majority of the kids in school to be like this and we're really making progress. Meanwhile I think I'll email this to a few right-wing bigots I know, just to annoy the hell out of them. Tee hee.
posted by Decani at 9:50 PM on July 11, 2011 [2 favorites]


This weekend I was talking to a kid at a convention, and I mentioned that in my city, Wheel of Fortune came on before Jeopardy! She had a harder time grasping that than this guy had grasping this.

Wait, there is a city wherein Jeopardy airs before the-game-show-which-shall-not-be-named?

Which gay marriage paradise is this?
posted by joe lisboa at 9:51 PM on July 11, 2011 [10 favorites]


I feel like that kid is definitely gonna grow up to be a chatty dentist.

Are there quiet dentists? I haven't met one.
posted by sweetkid at 9:57 PM on July 11, 2011 [1 favorite]


Heavily edited, but still touching.

You can see it plain as day on his face when he makes the connection. What a little mensch.
posted by Sphinx at 10:01 PM on July 11, 2011


39% of those over age 55 support legalizing same-sex marriage....
posted by craichead


Does that mean there's a 60% chance that I'm not over 55?

Because that would be awesome.
posted by tspae at 10:06 PM on July 11, 2011 [2 favorites]


Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, that kid is awesome.
posted by sarcasticah at 10:45 PM on July 11, 2011


Now lets find out how that kid feels about legalizing pot.
posted by Bonzai at 11:16 PM on July 11, 2011 [4 favorites]


WhitenoisE: "This kid just internalized and accepted in 60 seconds what our elder statesmen have been choking on for 60 years."

Sometimes my brain should just not read things in certain lights.
posted by symbioid at 11:23 PM on July 11, 2011


I like the part where he figures out why he's being recorded, and obliges with something cute, totally hamming it up. Doesn't matter though, they still laugh, while he studies their reactions.
posted by AlsoMike at 11:35 PM on July 11, 2011


Can someone please make a mashup juxtaposing this with some lawmakers saying absolutely ridiculous, awful things about homosexuality destroying family bonds and blah blah blah and destroying our children? I think that the absurdity would max out in stark contrast.
posted by disillusioned at 12:15 AM on July 12, 2011 [1 favorite]


This seems to be a wonderful example of how people will use anything to reinforce their own opinions...

What I mean is, isn't this exactly what homophobes complain about? Kids will be accepting of homosexuality if we don't keep it a big secret.

People like me will watch this video and think 'Oh how great, kids don't care about homosexuality... aren't they so progressive, awww!" and homophobes will watch it and say "Oh no! Kids accept homosexuality! They're doomed to life of wanton debauchery and Satan! GRAR!'

Considering that the homophobic section of the society apparently believe that homosexuality is the ultimate apple of temptation, this just proves their point to themselves.

Incidentally, I'm not the only one to find videoing a kid like this a bit weird, am I?
posted by knapah at 3:28 AM on July 12, 2011


Incidentally, I'm not the only one to find videoing a kid like this a bit weird, am I?

I still think it's creepy when adults use kids to make a point. Even if the kid is right.

Also, they are in a bathroom. It's weird. It's like he's cornered into having this conversation when he'd rather be playing ping pong.

Still, PING PONG!
posted by chavenet at 4:03 AM on July 12, 2011


Um... can you go into a little more depth on this? Because nobody's claiming that every single person under 55 loves the gays and everyone over 55 is a bigot.

According to this poll, 70% of Americans ages 18-34, 53% of those ages 35-54, and 39% of those over age 55 support legalizing same-sex marriage.

the polling numbers are extremely clear that support for gay marriage is strongly correlated with age, and that those under 35 are overwhelmingly in favor.

Did any of you even bother to read the comment to which I was replying? Obviously not.

The comment was, verbatim: "Right now the only age group in the US that opposes gay marriage are people 55 and older." Which is patently untrue. The only age group that opposes gay marriage in the US is NOT the 55+ group.
posted by blucevalo at 5:08 AM on July 12, 2011


1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works.

2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it.

3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.


- Douglas Adams

I tend to agree with the sentiment that we're on the way to societal integration after a mass die-off of the last generations that were bred in a system that encouraged 1950s it's-true-because-we-say-so beliefs about the world. Even among the children of hard right teahadhists, the anti-gay believers are decreasing in numbers, because the ability to control information that doesn't support your position is waning. For decades, the haters could say "homosexuals are like this" and "homosexuals are bad because" without being corrected, because they lived in a closed ecosystem with their squelched, insulated progeny.

This is less true every day, and the younger folks are more inclined to just shrug and wonder why they should be so tied up in what others are doing, even if they don't approve on a personal level.
posted by sonascope at 6:03 AM on July 12, 2011 [3 favorites]


Yes, blucevalo, they are the only age group that as a whole opposes gay marriage. The age group, not the single individuals.

As of 2011:

70% of 18-34 year olds support gay marriage.
53% of 35-54 year olds support gay marriage.
35% of 55+ year olds support gay marriage.

Which means that the majority of people between 18 and 54 years of age supports gay marriage, while the majority of people aged 55 or higher opposes gay marriage.
posted by lydhre at 6:40 AM on July 12, 2011 [1 favorite]


the majority of people between 18 and 54 years of age support gay marriage, while the majority of people aged 55 or higher oppose gay marriage

Yeah, but a lot of those over 55s are already married. They shouldn't be double dipping.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 6:59 AM on July 12, 2011


the majority of people aged 55 or higher opposes gay marriage

Leave us keep in mind that some of those people aged 55 or greater are gay, and have been fighting a very difficult and fight for rights for many of their years. They, especially, deserve to see their hard work come to fruition. Which is why "wait 'till the olds die off" isn't any kind of solution.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 7:17 AM on July 12, 2011 [1 favorite]


Yes, blucevalo, they are the only age group that as a whole opposes gay marriage. The age group, not the single individuals.
...
35% of 55+ year olds support gay marriage.


Your stats disprove your words. They are the only age group that has a MAJORITY of people who oppose gay marriage, but the whole age group does not.

/pedant
posted by antifuse at 7:33 AM on July 12, 2011


Right now the only age group in the US that opposes gay marriage are people 55 and older.

I'll thank you to be more careful with your stereotypes in the future.
posted by Danf at 7:34 AM on July 12, 2011


"So that means you love each other"

I teared up a little. I'm man enough to admit it.

And then, when I had time to reflect: What kind of psychopath must you be if you don't recognize this?
posted by Deathalicious at 7:37 AM on July 12, 2011 [1 favorite]


oh for goodness sake, pedants.

The 55+ age group is the only age group in which a majority of the group are opposed to gay marriage.

Better?

so it was poorly worded. Surely you get the point of the statement.
posted by gaspode at 7:43 AM on July 12, 2011


Incidentally, I'm not the only one to find videoing a kid like this a bit weird, am I?


Even if you were the only one, knapah, that's perfectly okay:)
posted by Jody Tresidder at 7:45 AM on July 12, 2011


Are there quiet dentists? I haven't met one.

Actually, my last dentist was pretty quiet. Getting him to talk was like pulling teeth.

ducks
posted by Deathalicious at 7:46 AM on July 12, 2011 [1 favorite]


In fairness, this kid is also probably in support of Cap'n Crunch for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
posted by punkfloyd at 8:25 AM on July 12, 2011


antifuse: Yes, blucevalo, they are the only age group that as a whole opposes gay marriage.

"As a whole" and 65% do not mean the same thing. And "as a whole" is not what the original comment said.

gaspode: so it was poorly worded. Surely you get the point of the statement.

The point of the statement is defeated by its phrasing. It's erroneous, and no, it's SURELY not pedantry to point that out.
posted by blucevalo at 8:33 AM on July 12, 2011


When discussing age groups and demographics, it is taken as a given that statements of trending are not universally applied to every single person who belongs to demo (X), but rather that the trending is based on the statistical likelihood of whatever is being discussed. So, basically, "Yes, blucevalo, they are the only age group that as a whole opposes gay marriage."
posted by FatherDagon at 9:29 AM on July 12, 2011


"As a whole" is not what the original comment said.
posted by blucevalo at 9:30 AM on July 12, 2011


Right now the only age group in the US that opposes gay marriage are people 55 and older.

"As a whole" is not what the original comment said.


What did you think the original comment meant? That all people over 55 opposed gay marriage and that no one under 55 did? I can't even figure out how you misunderstood that comment.
posted by andoatnp at 9:35 AM on July 12, 2011


I apologize for my poor wording but I thought that it was obvious that I didn't mean each and every person born before 1956. For what it's worth, the vast majority of people that age that I personally know are very much in favor of gay marriage.
posted by octothorpe at 10:00 AM on July 12, 2011


oh for goodness sake, pedants.

The 55+ age group is the only age group in which a majority of the group are opposed to gay marriage.

Better?


gaspode. . .point taken.

But do you want to be lumped in with Yankee fans, due to your present geographical circumstances? Now multiply that by a lot.
posted by Danf at 10:05 AM on July 12, 2011


In fairness, this kid is also probably in support of Cap'n Crunch for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Not if he's going to be a dentist, he's not.
posted by deadcowdan at 10:11 AM on July 12, 2011 [2 favorites]


But do you want to be lumped in with Yankee fans, due to your present geographical circumstances? Now multiply that by a lot.

No, but I would get that they didn't mean literally every person in NYC.

But I know that it smarts to be lumped in like that.
posted by gaspode at 10:25 AM on July 12, 2011


"As a whole" and 65% do not mean the same thing. And "as a whole" is not what the original comment said.

To be fair, you're quoting me quoting somebody else. I was agreeing with you. :P
posted by antifuse at 10:32 AM on July 12, 2011


I think I'm the one who started the semi-derail about shifting attitudes about teh ghey, so I apologize. Mea naughty! Also, I didn't mean to imply that we can just be passive lumps since assholes dying off = problem solved.

But if I look at my particular little corner of rural, worldview-inbred hell out here where the gods left their shoes, then there has been a change in, for instance, the attitudes of my students over the last 20 years. It's not giant, or necessarily permanent, but the way 18-25 year olds talk about their own and others' orientations and experiences is more open. It's less OK to say stupid-ass homophobic things in public -- even [Joe Pesci voice] youths [/JPV] who believe that shit know that it's something many others think you should be ashamed of.

Trivial but astounding anec-factoid: every spring I read roughly 200 writing samples from high school seniors all over West Michigan, and this year when they one topic choice was about an organization they're part of that communicates positively, there were probably 20 papers on the school's "gay-straight alliance" or similar group. A) These things now exist, B) at schools all over a Republican-dominated area, C) and kids admit that they belong to them, D) and proudly choose them as topics to write about. I know it's a fad right now, but it's kind of an exhilarating one, as fads go.
posted by FelliniBlank at 10:34 AM on July 12, 2011 [3 favorites]


I will always remember my youngest cousin's understand of "gay" when he was about 3 or 4. He lived in San Francisco and his family was up to visit my family in Seattle. I was about 10 and playing scrabble with his older brother and his dad. Someone played the word "gay" and the youngest, who had been watching was just aghast. "You can't play that! It's a BAD WORD!" His father just asked, "well, if it's a bad word, what does it mean." He replied "It means...IN LOVE!"

We told him he was (mostly?) correct but there was nothing bad about the word. He's a good kid.
posted by piratebowling at 12:42 PM on July 12, 2011


Shizer, I'm nineteen hours too late:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by TheColonelFrog.

Can anybody tell me what happens?
posted by Chichibio at 2:15 PM on July 12, 2011


really want a mirror of this or something :(
posted by dash_slot- at 2:37 PM on July 12, 2011 [1 favorite]


But let's be honest here, that kid is probably to young to consider the destructive effects that couple has on hetero marriages. I know that's a point I often overlooked when I had other things to consider like which matchbox car was my favorite.
posted by Metro Gnome at 2:52 PM on July 12, 2011


gaspode: To be fair, you're quoting me quoting somebody else. I was agreeing with you. :P

Sorry about that, gaspode.

FelliniBlank: But if I look at my particular little corner of rural, worldview-inbred hell out here where the gods left their shoes, then there has been a change in, for instance, the attitudes of my students over the last 20 years.

I don't disagree. If you look at attitudes today compared to attitudes 20 years ago, both in rural areas and urban areas, there's an ocean of difference. I'll stop being obstinate about the original comment, which was not yours but octothorpe's. If octothorpe meant that the majority of people over 55 still oppose gay marriage, I can't argue with that. I retract my grar.

I still strongly believe, though, that there will be strong opposition to gay marriage, albeit a minority, among under-55s for some time to come. Maybe the preponderance of under-55s will be enough to vote out of office the politicians (both those over and under 55) who still oppose and legislate against gay marriage. I hope so.
posted by blucevalo at 4:25 PM on July 12, 2011


Incidentally, I'm not the only one to find videoing a kid like this a bit weird, am I?

Why? There are cute videos of kids doing cute stuff all over the place all the time. There are whole TV shows made out of it, where they pay the parents some nugatory amount for the right to milk the child for advertising revenue. There are plain old commercial breaks, which feature children miming the act of defecation in order to sell air-freshener. There are children's dance competitions, beauty pageants and fashion shows.

There was MacCauley Kulkin.

Yeah. This is a bit weird.
posted by howfar at 4:33 PM on July 12, 2011


Chichibio, this link should work (at least for a little while).
posted by zerbinetta at 4:46 PM on July 12, 2011 [1 favorite]


Thanks zerbinetta.

So, did I understand correctly upthread where telegraph said that it was the kid's parents playing cease and desist whack-a-mole with this video?

His parents go by the pseudonym TheColonelFrog?

I think it's quite amazingly viral in that it can have 305 views (from zerbinetta's link) and still generate six pages of typical YouTube vitriol. Anybody making graphs plotting comments vs. views? Is it a predictable model?

Those are my four questions.
posted by Chichibio at 4:56 PM on July 12, 2011


Youtube view counts for popular videos tend to get frozen at the 300-or-so mark; they aren't updated in real time.
posted by NMcCoy at 10:10 PM on July 12, 2011 [1 favorite]


Why? There are cute videos of kids doing cute stuff all over the place all the time. There are whole TV shows made out of it, where they pay the parents some nugatory amount for the right to milk the child for advertising revenue. There are plain old commercial breaks, which feature children miming the act of defecation in order to sell air-freshener. There are children's dance competitions, beauty pageants and fashion shows.

There was MacCauley Kulkin.

Yeah. This is a bit weird.


I didn't say that this was the only thing that could be weird, did I?

I just find it strange to take out a camera and film a kid talking to you. Doesn't matter what the topic of conversation is really, it just seems a bit odd. Maybe I'm not fully integrated into 21st century society where everything is YouTube material.
posted by knapah at 3:49 AM on July 13, 2011


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