Lottin said in the movie Star Wars the character Han Solo cut open and animal with his light saber and placed Luke Skywalker inside the animal. This was due to Luke freezing to death in cold weather. Lottin said there was nothing religious about what she did and didn't intend to offend anyone."At some point in your career you say yeah I've seen a lot of bad stuff -- you see this kind of picture and you realize maybe you haven't seen everything, " said Washington County Sgt. Dave Thompson.
Lottin said in the movie Star Wars the character Han Solo cut open and animal with his light saber and placed Luke Skywalker inside the animal. This was due to Luke freezing to death in cold weather. Lottin said there was nothing religious about what she did and didn't intend to offend anyone.Washington County Sheriff's Office Sgt. David Thompson tells Seattle Weekly that while the case is "truly bizarre", deputies aren't interested in telling people what weird stuff to put or not put on the Internet.
Just so everyone knows, There was no pagan ritual involved. The horse was over 30 years old, and was blind, and was starting to get foot rot (among other problems). It had lived a full and happy life with the woman who had raised it from a colt. The slaughter was EXEMPLARY of a humane killing. She was petting the horse and talking to it when he shot it with a .300 win mag from 30 yds in the brain box.posted by Dano St at 11:19 AM on November 3, 2011 [2 favorites]
Since they couldn't carry the whole dead horse away to the burial spot (which is where you can't shoot), they had to cut it up and carry it away. She was wearing semi-nice clothes, so she stripped to avoid bloodying them. Blood washes out of blonde hair just fine, btw.
so please everyone. Leave poor Jasha alone. She's a super sweet girl. A good hugger, too. :D
hide out in your house and let it all blow overI did not read that word as "house" on first glance.
What does that have to do with Damien Hirst?If she were Damien Hirst this would be art and worth several million.If she had any talent, she wouldn't have to pose naked inside a horse to get attention.
Somebody mentioned that maybe vegetarians are less offended by this than others, and that seems to be the case with me as well. Because, let's say you had a chicken sandwich for lunch today. I would find it puzzling if somebody online said that it's a pity that a chicken can't behead you, cook you, and then put you between two slices of bread for an enjoyable mid-afternoon meal.I'm not a vegetarian either but it seems like a lot of people in society don't seem to realize the kind of routine cruelty that happens to animals as part of industrialized farming. Or non-industrialized farming. You can't get meat out of an animal without mutilating it's body. Why exactly is it worse to get naked and climb inside it's body at the same time?
I have hunch it's not so much that she killed the horse in and of itself; it was going to be euthanized. Also, not that she cut it to pieces; we do cut food animals to pieces. But we don't do so in order to....play with them.Isn't cooking and eating something essentially 'playing' with it? Or there's lady gaga's meat dress. Ultimately people don't eat meat because they need it to survive, but rather for pleasure. They just like the way it tastes.
Not that everyone in meat packing plants is rending their garments when they go home, it's just that people don't really....fuck around while they're doing it, or if they do, it's a very quick, subtle, whistling-past-the-graveyard thing that they keep private to a trusted friend and then they go back to work.Huh? You know this because you've spent a lot of time at meat-packing plants? From what I've heard people get desensitized and so sometimes play with the animals. People throw chickens up against walls. That kind of thing.
And I read that, and thought "wait -- maybe the difference is what each of these people did AFTER killing the animal. Maybe there is a difference between 'killing an animal because you want to eat it' and 'killing an animal because you want to do freaky shit to the corpse.' Yeah, there's something about the 'doing freaky shit to a corpse' that just creeps people out, more so than just straightforward killing does."Well, the problem here is: What difference does it make if it creeped people out? Lots of things creep people out, it's not a reliable guide to morality. The question is whether or not this was within the bounds of what's creepy but not immoral. I'm not hearing a good answer exactly.
And then I thought some more and thought, "hey, wait, there is a known instance of a human who did freaky shit to human corpses, and that seemed to creep people out in a similar way.
And then I thought some more and thought, "hey, wait, there is a known instance of a human who did freaky shit to human corpses, and that seemed to creep people out in a similar way. Hey, maybe that's the thing -- maybe there is some sort of universal, subconscious repulsion at the idea of fucking around with a corpse, animal OR human, post-mortem.Well, generally we consider murder and cannibalism as reprehensible, even though killing and eating animals isn't. So obviously there's a different moral reaction to things done to humans and things done to non-humans.
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