What did Clinton say... something like "You have to be FOR something not just AGAINST something"Yeah, Occupy Wallstreet should be out there banging fat interns and passing more free trade deals, and ending welfare as we know it, and making the democratic party more business friendly. Oh and deregulating derivatives trading and ending glass-steagall.
The "McCain" style candidate, the reasonable centrist business tool, Romney, is getting hammered in turn by every candidate. Every one! Michelle Bachman, and then Rick Perry, and then Herman Cain, and now Newt Gingrich. Everyone knows Romney is the only one sane enough to nab the nomination, but the energized radical base, the Tea-Partiers and the Dittoheads an the Fox Newshounds, hates him. They're going to stay away from the polls.Does anyone really believe it's about anything other then Mormonism? If he were a "real Christian" he wouldn't have any problems.
That person will probably be either Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich. Whatever your opinion of them, they're not extreme right-wingers.Gingrich is not an extreme right winger? This is a guy who, off the top of my head said Obama supports infanticide, and he is a Kenyan anti-colonist Luo tribesmen. He said recently, during the campaign that we should fire unionized janitors and replace them with school children (in schools), that we should take kids away from poor children and put them in orphanages, and that we should adopt Singapore's model for the war on drugs (i.e. execute pot smokers)
Appointment of a CEO of Goldman Sachs to Secretary of the TreasuryPretty sure Geithner is still secretary of treasury, and never worked for Goldman Sachs. A bunch of Goldman people work in the Obama Administration, that's for sure.
Appointment of another Sachs CEO as Secretary of the Treasury when the first didn't work out
Tried that. Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, said no and said it repeatedly. This goes back to the infrastructure point I was making. 2012 is more or less a done deal. Start with 2014 and build.This is such a pile of bullshit it's not even funny. First of all, Congress not only didn't 'disallow' the closure of Gitmo in one year, they actually specifically funded the closure of Gitmo that year (don't remember which one, maybe FY2010?). Secondly congress can't just de-fund the constitution. If Obama had gone to court to challenge those provisions he probably could have won. He certainly didn't try. He asked nicely, congress said 'no' (but later changed it to yes for one year) and he gave up. He didn't actually fight to close the prison. And not only that, he's opening up other prisons that do the same thing!
Only 6% of Americans consider themselves "Very Liberal."Yawn. I'm sure more Americans consider themselves "Liberal" then "Supporters of Wallstreet Banks". Or "Think we need more corporate money in politics" or "Think lobbyists are wonderful"
Where are your votes? And, if you don't have the votes, please don't mess it up like last time, ok? 1.5 million Iraqis will thank you.
To this foreigner, all legitimate machinery of change looks to be entirely captured. Absolute corruption has been written into law and is above challenge by sameTo this foreigner OWS doesn't seem to be about changing things directly but about simply showing that change is needed. It is about more and more people who know this, who say this and who are seen by others to be saying this.
a specially-designed judicial robe
"You say to somebody, you shouldn't go to work before you're what, 14, 16 years of age, fine," Mr. Gingrich said. "You're totally poor. You're in a school that is failing with a teacher that is failing. I've tried for years to have a very simple model. Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they'd begin the process of rising."He wants young teenagers paid to clear up shit, vomit, and drains. And do electrical repairs, building repairs, plumbing, and waste from the school science lab.
Since we are in condescending academic mode, you may want to note that it's usually just called ethics or ethical theory. Your other statements stand up just as poorly.Yet, you can't explain why, beyond an irrelevant terminology pedantry. What difference does it make if it's usually called 'ethics', I wanted to make it clear to people who weren't academic philosophers that I was talking about ethics in the philosophical sense, so I called it the 'philosophy of ethics', I suppose 'philosophical ethics' might have been smoother, but it would have had a slightly different connotation.
Really? Congress can defund whatever the fuck they want. See the Foreign Assistance Act of 1974 and a whole host of other Acts which wiped out a bunch of wars.Wars are not a constitutional right. The fact that congress can de-fund a war does not mean they can de-fund basic constitutional rights. Another example of logical failure on your part.
You know, comments like this drive me absolutely bugshit because they assume power dynamics with a Republican in charge is the same as when Obama is in charge, and they aren't. Republicans are willing to filibuster everything and anything proposed by a Democrat, for reasons no better than "because I feel like being a dick today." Democrats aren't willing to do that, either because they're Republicans embarrassed to call themselves such (like Ben Nelson) or because they actually believe in procedure and that the governing party should get to govern (like Harry Reid). The Democrats will only filibuster against those aims that are so patently against the core principles of their party that they feel forced to do so.I love how the argument starts out by saying "You have to vote for the democrats because the republicans are evil" and the argument ends up "You have to vote for the democrats because the democrats suck and will just do whatever the republicans want!"
Romney is hated and all the monthly flavors are loved for the solitary reason that actually matters to teabaggers: how much they think he or she pisses off liberals.Nah, it's Mormonism. That's why Romney needs to run as a moderate this time, rather then trying to seem like a more hard-core rightwinger. But the religious bigotry is definitely real. Something like 40% of the population says they won't vote for a Mormon for president.
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Could something like the 1968 Democratic National Convention happen in 2012?
posted by KokuRyu at 4:10 AM on December 1, 2011 [1 favorite]