Not to defend joke thieves, as I think that's totally wrong, but I do find it interesting that there are such strong negative reactions when someone lifts any part of a comic's joke compared with the relative hospitality for thoughtfully re-using ideas in literature or movies. What makes the two practices different? (Sincere question.)
Where, like a pillow on a bed
I come to pluck your berries harsh and crude
Where through the Golden Coast, and groves of orange and citron
And one clear call for me
My genial spirits fail
The desire of the moth for the star
When first the College Rolls receive his name.
DecemberBoy- I understand where you're coming from but there is actually room for a few other perspectives here. I was raped. I have laughed at rape jokes. For me, it's about what Patton Oswalt calls "kicking up". If the rapist or rape culture is the butt of the joke, it can be ok for me. It can even be hilarious and healing. I don't presume to speak for all rape survivors but it's not cut and dry that 33% (or whatever it is) of your audience will never ever every be ok with it under any circumstances. I also think it's fine to respect the art but avoid certain artists if what they do doesn't make you feel comfortable. (I will never see a Lars Von Trier movie but I don't think he should stop.) It's also ok to leave without making a judgment about the artist. I like comedy so I know if a set veers into rape-territory chances are I will laugh (most comics are in my experience insightful, decent human beings) but sometimes I might be hurt. I have left shows that made me feel uncomfortable. Fortunately in most of those (very few) cases, the comic was doing a "kicking up" bit or one that might have turned into "kicking up" but for whatever reason it was doing more harm than good for me personally. I left. No judgement against the artist. But that's not to say I never judge under any circumstances. For what it's worth I started watching a Tosh special once and turned it off because I felt like he was just being misogynistic. So he won't get my cash and I'll say openly that I think his bits are hateful. That's just how I manage being a comedy fan/rape survivor.
anazgnos : Alright, let's get a name named up in here.
nadawi: i considered both mencia and dane cook - but it seems to me that a comic that got so fabulously wealthy would be described differently. they both have had more success than is indicated here.
But when it came time for him to make the transition to television, to movies, to big-time fame and success? He had nothing. And, without going into details, he flamed out, rather spectacularly, on national television. Like, spectacularly. It was gorgeous for Blaine and I to watch. By that point we’d built solid careers for ourselves and when Kid Thief’s career hit the killing floor? It drained away through the sluice gate.
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