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I Forgot My Phone (SLYT)
posted by 2bucksplus (74 comments total) 27 users marked this as a favorite

 
I gave up smart devices about a year ago, switched just an old nokia (the kind you used to get for $30 as a freebie along with your 300 minutes with a prepaid setup). There was a bit of transition period, but it has been worth it.
posted by idiopath at 1:29 PM on August 23, 2013 [5 favorites]


Heh, idiopath, I'm about to go the opposite way - I am really damned tired of not knowing when the next bus comes.
posted by maryr at 1:33 PM on August 23, 2013 [7 favorites]


This is old, but is as useful now as it was 12:34 PM - 17 Jun 10.

"My new standard of cool: when I'm hanging out with you, I never see your phone ever ever ever."
-Scott Simpson

(I'm not sure if it counts when I keep my phone in my pocket because of this.)
posted by uphc at 1:33 PM on August 23, 2013 [7 favorites]


I've noticed that other people's constant phone usage bothers us more than our own constant phone usage.
posted by mattbucher at 1:36 PM on August 23, 2013 [23 favorites]


Think it's bad now, just wait until smart phones are available as implants in artificial eyes.
posted by happyroach at 1:44 PM on August 23, 2013


Like looking into a mirror... a shiny black mirror.

I'm not happy about that.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 1:54 PM on August 23, 2013 [1 favorite]


I like my phone. I'm okay with you liking your phone.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
posted by MoxieProxy at 1:55 PM on August 23, 2013 [9 favorites]


I use my cellphone as a phone. I use my computer as a computer. And never the twain shall meet...
posted by jim in austin at 1:55 PM on August 23, 2013 [5 favorites]


I use my phone as a phone and a computer and I use my computer as a phone and a computer.
I just try to use neither of them too much for anything.
Different strokes . . .
posted by Seamus at 1:57 PM on August 23, 2013 [1 favorite]


Think it's bad now, just wait until smart phones are available as implants in artificial eyes.

Or in our butts. You think they're just being incredibly rude when they bend over and spread their butt cheeks but then you realize they are live streaming in 1080p and that actually annoys you even more.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 1:59 PM on August 23, 2013 [7 favorites]


So... you're all saying that sending SMS's during sex is not acceptable? Well... now I feel embarrassed!
posted by greenhornet at 2:07 PM on August 23, 2013


That poor, poor woman.
posted by aturoff at 2:07 PM on August 23, 2013


I'm about to go the opposite way - I am really damned tired of not knowing when the next bus comes.

Me, too. I grew up before computers and cell phones, and would wait at the bus stop at random times hoping a bus would show up.
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium at 2:08 PM on August 23, 2013 [2 favorites]


This is why I think Google Glass is actually important. I mean, there's nothing wrong with wanting to capture an important moment on film, or share something with someone you love far away. Maybe I'm nutso, but I think a more invisible connection to the uberbrain of the internet will allow us to exist in the real world again while still having confidence that our experiences are archived (or, where appropriate, broadcast).

I started to feel this way after I had my kid, btw. So many amazing moments I want to keep with me forever and my own memory just isn't good enough. So I take tons of pictures with my phone. It would be better if there wasn't a phone, but I still got to have the pictures.

I guess what I'm saying is that my brain is better when it's connected to the internet and I'll be happy when that doesn't involve a little black box in between me and the world. Bring on the hivemind!
posted by annekate at 2:08 PM on August 23, 2013 [3 favorites]


I stopped taking photos and videos of most things when I realized that I rarely ever looked at them afterwards. Why the hell, really, would I watch the entire shitty phone recording of my favorite band playing an entire song? People throughout history have been able to happily reminisce about their lives with no or limited photographic evidence of each fun activity they've done, so I can do it too. You don't realize how much looking at the world through a screen takes you out of the moment until you stop doing it.

I'm not convinced that people are somehow happier or feel more fulfilled by taking more photos and videos of their life as it progresses, but I admit I haven't looked for any literature on the topic.
posted by Defenestrator at 2:20 PM on August 23, 2013 [19 favorites]


mattbucher: I've noticed that other people's constant phone usage bothers us more than our own constant phone usage.

It's because my conversation with you is something that requires your full attention, but your conversation with me is totally something I can multi-task my way through.

Wait, did you say you want a cheeseburger goat? That doesn't make any sense. And that is why I don't really listen to you in the first place.

Oh, did you know you can rent goats to mow your lawn from The Goat Guy? Yeah, I did just look it up while you were talking about cheeseburger goats.
posted by filthy light thief at 2:21 PM on August 23, 2013 [10 favorites]


Defenestrator: People throughout history have been able to happily reminisce about their lives with no or limited photographic evidence of each fun activity they've done, so I can do it too.

Not me. My memory sucks. I really enjoy flipping back through random pictures I've taken in past years (or even past weeks), just like I enjoy reading through my old comments. After all, once I've captured something digitally, I can let go of it mentally.
posted by filthy light thief at 2:23 PM on August 23, 2013 [5 favorites]


Btw Charlene deGuzman, star of this vid, is a refreshingly funny and smart up and coming comedian : tweets, videos
posted by Bwithh at 2:24 PM on August 23, 2013 [2 favorites]


Seconding sucky memory. I revisit the pictures of my kid ALL THE TIME and enjoy flipping through old MeFi activity, Facebook posts, Quora answers, etc from time to time. Even (gasp) LiveJournal.
posted by annekate at 2:26 PM on August 23, 2013


She knocked down two pins. Is that really high-five worthy?
posted by Toekneesan at 2:27 PM on August 23, 2013 [8 favorites]


Relevant (Black Mirror ep. 3, "The Entire History of You")
posted by christopherious at 2:28 PM on August 23, 2013 [2 favorites]




Btw Charlene deGuzman, star of this vid, is a refreshingly funny and smart up and coming comedian : tweets, videos


LET'S GET FOOD
posted by sweetkid at 2:30 PM on August 23, 2013 [22 favorites]


The video's a bit preachy, but I have to admit I get royally annoyed at this sort of behaviour too.

That said, as long as you're not blocking someone else's view, holding your phone up at a concert or whatever is sort of up to you. Getting your phone out in the middle of an actual conversation is obviously rude, but I don't think that kind of attitude is uniquely attributable to smart phones.

What really gets me is when people are in a situation where they're not actively interacting, but still should be nominally paying attention, but feel the need to get their phones out anyway. Like walking down a street, or waiting at the bar. Yeah, it's boring, but pay attention.
posted by lucidium at 2:33 PM on August 23, 2013


I am really damned tired of not knowing when the next bus comes.

For me, this has always* been the #1 killer smartphone application. It's not an iPhone, it's a Bus Scheduler 3000!

Then again, knowing the schedule doesn't necessarily mean you know when the next bus will actually show up...

* since smartphones became a thing, you pedant
posted by neckro23 at 2:37 PM on August 23, 2013 [1 favorite]


LET'S GET FOOD

THAT is the very argument I have with my roommate, nearly every night!! That's brilliant. I love it.
posted by MoxieProxy at 2:41 PM on August 23, 2013


I liked this--well executed, definitely some truth in there.

We're all still feeling this out, aren't we? For instance, I used to take pics of my food, of my special moments for a while, and then I decided I don't get anything out of doing that, that I end up feeling a bit of a jackass.

I do use the camera for the fantastic note-taker that it can be: business cards, book covers, serial number tags. All the time, shoomp--right into Dropbox.

I do not initiate whipping out my phone in company, but I notice that--especially if it's just you and I--if you do it, I am going to follow suit, because I don't want to be bored and alone while you are jacked in.

Great for bet-settling and "what is Dee Snyder doing now" topics in company. I've had it be sprinkles on the social sundae in that way, more times than I can remember.

Never boring, watching conventions and etiquette emerge and ramify.
posted by sandettie light vessel automatic at 2:48 PM on August 23, 2013 [2 favorites]


Also, fuck yeah, it has changed the use of public transportation wonderfully.
posted by sandettie light vessel automatic at 2:50 PM on August 23, 2013


I use my cellphone as a phone. I use my computer as a computer. And never the twain shall meet..

This is the new "I don't even own a television".
posted by zabuni at 2:50 PM on August 23, 2013 [12 favorites]


LET'S GET FOOD

THAT is the very argument I have with my roommate, nearly every night!!


your downstairs neighbors must hate you
posted by echo target at 3:00 PM on August 23, 2013 [3 favorites]


I am really damned tired of not knowing when the next bus comes.

When you find out, what do you do differently than "waiting"?
posted by DU at 3:11 PM on August 23, 2013 [3 favorites]


Now imagine the camera zooming out to reveal that this whole short film was being filmed by a third guy using his phone.
posted by belarius at 3:14 PM on August 23, 2013 [2 favorites]


This is the new "I don't even own a television".

I don't even own a cellphone. What do I get?
posted by RobotHero at 3:16 PM on August 23, 2013 [2 favorites]


DU: "When you find out, what do you do differently than "waiting"?"

You sit in your house and surf Metafilter for an extra 10 minutes before walking to the bus stop.
posted by Defenestrator at 3:19 PM on August 23, 2013 [11 favorites]


I am really damned tired of not knowing when the next bus comes.

When you find out, what do you do differently than "waiting"?


Walk across the street to the other bus stop to take another bus line that goes roughly the same place, as I did at the last place I lived.
posted by Copronymus at 3:26 PM on August 23, 2013 [3 favorites]


DU: "I am really damned tired of not knowing when the next bus comes.

When you find out, what do you do differently than "waiting"?
"

One night in downtown LA I waited for 45 minutes until I realized I'd missed the last bus on that route for the night and had to wander around at 1 AM looking for another way home. Another day, on the second leg of my bus journey, I arrived to find the bus stop unexpectedly closed due to a street closure, with no notice on the sign on where I could pick up the detoured bus.

Obviously, I made it out of these situations, but a smart phone would've reduced stress, saved time, and could keep you out of potentially dangerous situations.
posted by bluecore at 3:29 PM on August 23, 2013 [2 favorites]


Then again, knowing the schedule doesn't necessarily mean you know when the next bus will actually show up...

That is why NextBus, which tells me when the bus is actually showing up, is so godammned awesome.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 3:37 PM on August 23, 2013 [2 favorites]


your downstairs neighbors must hate you
posted by echo target
posted by oulipian at 3:37 PM on August 23, 2013


NextBus is great... when it works. I've had a lot of "phantom" buses in my experience.
posted by 2bucksplus at 3:40 PM on August 23, 2013


This is the new "I don't even own a television".

Oh, I own one but rarely turn it on. And if it's on I rarely bother to watch. Given my druthers I would rather listen to KMFA...
posted by jim in austin at 3:41 PM on August 23, 2013


I watched this in the bathroom.
posted by krix at 3:45 PM on August 23, 2013 [1 favorite]


This mission is too important for us to allow her to jeopardize it.
posted by not_on_display at 4:03 PM on August 23, 2013


This emotionally resonates with me. Sometimes when I'm out and I have my smartphone in my pocket and I take it out and get that hit of NEW DATA I feel like it's a bump of some kind of drug and I put my phone away and I say, "No! You're out! You're having an experience in REAL LIFE. Twitter will be there later. Your e-mail will be there later. Put it away."

And I put it away.

But 5 minutes later, I'm feeling twitchy, like I need another hit or something. And before I know it my phone is in my hand again and I'm browsing and reading and in-loading something ANYTHING and... it bothers me.

It really bothers me.

I can't watch a TV show anymore. I can't just sit down and watch. I have to have that secondary input stream.

I have this fantasy where I'm kind of bit by bit being transformed into this addled creature with no attention span and a ravenous need to always consume something new and..

I dunno. Sometimes I want to throw my phone away. Sometimes I want a new, better, smarter phone. Sometimes I think it's not a problem. Sometimes I think it's a tremendous problem and we're all doomed.

What the fuck, man. I don't know.
posted by kbanas at 4:07 PM on August 23, 2013 [20 favorites]


greenhornet: "So... you're all saying that sending SMS's during sex is not acceptable? Well... now I feel embarrassed!"

"A friend of mine" had that happen to him during a one-night stand. "He told me" that he faked sleeping until she started snoring, raided the fridge for beer, stole her pack of cigarettes, and did the two hour walk home of shame as the sun came up.

What an asshole, right?
posted by mannequito at 4:08 PM on August 23, 2013


Never done anything during sex BUT sex. Don't know how anyone can do anything during sex but sex (except maybe partner dirty talkin' or a running a mental fantasy film loop).

However, I AM guilty of electronics in bed. I used to work nights and the ex-wife worked mornings. Part of my bedtime ritual is reading. My solution? Reading on my (DAMN YOU PALM FOR STOPPING MAKING THEM) beloved Palm T|X. She once thanked me for the idea.

So, yeah, take that as you will.
posted by Samizdata at 4:17 PM on August 23, 2013


I like my phone. I'm okay with you liking your phone.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
I hate my phone. I hate your phone. Stop looking at your phone and look at me. Look at me. LOOK AT ME. We have been in this restaurant for an hour and you have spent at least 30 minutes looking at your phone. Why did we come to this restaurant, if you are going to just look at your phone? Stop looking at your phone. I don't care that your friend is going on a date tonight and needs someone to tell her what to wear. If you wanted to help your friend prepare for her date, you should have said you were busy. I don't care that your brother is going to see a band you like. Look at the person you are with, instead of remote-socializing with the person you would obviously rather be with.

Really, it's just common courtesy. If you're going to spend time with me, give me at least, like, 85% of your attention. 85% is all I ask.
posted by deathpanels at 4:38 PM on August 23, 2013 [12 favorites]


/starts tumblr where people can post selfies with other people on their phones in the background
posted by obiwanwasabi at 4:47 PM on August 23, 2013 [3 favorites]


Why did we come to this restaurant, if you are going to just look at your phone?

That's a good question, why DID you go to a restaurant with someone who obviously wasn't interested in interacting with you? Next time, find someone else to dine with. There - aren't you happier now, instead of railing at a socially-inept jerk?
posted by Greg_Ace at 4:54 PM on August 23, 2013 [2 favorites]


and could keep you out of potentially dangerous situations.

Or, alternatively, it could put you in one.
posted by IvoShandor at 5:06 PM on August 23, 2013


When you find out, what do you do differently than "waiting"?

As mentioned above, I either take another form of transportation home (taxi, long walk to subway, longer walk home) or I use my time more efficiently (grab a coffee, brush my teeth, run to ATM). I live an 6-8 minute walk from my usual bus to work and there's another bus I can take an extra 4 minutes down the road - I need to know if I've already missed the first bus and, if I have, I need to know if I can still make the second one. And if I can't, I need to kill 30 minutes and might as well buy donuts for my co-workers. I miss the bus much more rarely these days thanks to NextBus and an open wifi signal at my bus stop.

You asked.
posted by maryr at 5:12 PM on August 23, 2013 [2 favorites]


When you find out, what do you do differently than "waiting"?

Wait somewhere where I am not in danger of freezing to death, for one.
posted by louche mustachio at 5:42 PM on August 23, 2013 [1 favorite]


That too.
posted by maryr at 5:51 PM on August 23, 2013


Got no television and no smartphone covered already. Can someone tell me what the next hip new thing not have will be? (please say microwaves, otherwise I may have to get rid of something)
posted by Cold Lurkey at 6:03 PM on August 23, 2013 [2 favorites]


If you want to be really hip you should get rid of your computer and Internet connection right now, before it becomes passé.
posted by Greg_Ace at 6:10 PM on August 23, 2013


Hey you! Can you stop speaking with your family for like 2 minutes and pay proper attention to this thread please?
posted by ODiV at 6:13 PM on August 23, 2013


I remember watching the London opening ceremony, and every other athlete was holding up a phone. Really? You're going to experience this once in a lifetime event through the screen of your phone? Laying bed? Big deal. But once in a lifetime events, c'mon!
posted by Brocktoon at 6:26 PM on August 23, 2013


At least the video didn't exaggerate to make a point. I hate when videos exaggerate to make a point.
posted by mullicious at 6:43 PM on August 23, 2013 [1 favorite]


If you want to talk to me at the restaurant, maybe try texting me. I suppose we could clear this whole thing up if I just admit that I hate your voice. Shut the fuck up, already, Siri.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 7:04 PM on August 23, 2013 [1 favorite]


I suddenly realize how inconsiderate I've been, acting just like all these people in the video.

Except instead of an iPhone in my hands, it's my penis. Really, I should put it away more often in social situations.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 7:19 PM on August 23, 2013 [1 favorite]


Not having a smartphone and also not having profiles on any of the social media sites people use their smartphones to constantly engage with increasingly makes me get the disjointed feeling that there's this whole other meta-world that I'm not opted into, and that I don't really understand. Like while you're looking at trees, everyone else is chasing shmoogles around so they can put their 5-bops in the exterium and kweeze a dorfer. Just this whole other stratum that doesn't make sense to you and to which you're not privy. Sometime this annoys me; I really would like to magically know when to show up at the bus stop; but for the most part I enjoy interacting with the world with minimal mediation.

(Also, personally, the obsession with recording everything all the time strikes me as fetishistic and deeply disordered.)
posted by threeants at 8:14 PM on August 23, 2013 [3 favorites]


My now ex-husband used to be bad about using his phone when we were at a restaurant. This was before the smart phones! One evening I tucked a paperback book in my purse when we headed for a restaurant. He pulled out his phone at the table, I pulled out my book and started reading. The look on his face was priceless, he accused me of being rude. One of the many reasons why he is an ex.
posted by JujuB at 8:44 PM on August 23, 2013


I wish there were snipers with a license to maybe not kill but at least maim any time I see people experiencing a concert through the back of their iPhone.

Seriously, just put the phone away and be present in the moment you choad.
posted by photoslob at 9:46 PM on August 23, 2013


Every minute you spend hating on and fantasizing the death of those choads is a minute you spend exactly as "un-present in the moment" as those you despise.
posted by Greg_Ace at 10:11 PM on August 23, 2013 [5 favorites]


I love my smart phone. I take lots of happy giggly pictures of my toddler and when I have a nightmare (frequent occurrence) I just grab my phone, scroll through pictures until I feel better and go right back to sleep relaxed and happy.
posted by HMSSM at 10:17 PM on August 23, 2013


"I could kill them all... but then I still wouldn't be able to enjoy the concert because they'd probably stop it and call the cops or something. Where is the justice?"

I don't know if I can really put this on the phones. I've been out with people who spent the whole time quoting fucking Family Guy, so... maybe it's just that annoying people are gonna annoy? Then again, I'm in my thirties, so could it be an age thing? I haven't had a meal with people who spend the whole time on their phones and I can't imagine I'd be eager to repeat the experience if it happened once.
posted by ODiV at 10:21 PM on August 23, 2013 [1 favorite]


"Then again, I'm in my thirties, so could it be an age thing?"

Yeh, I don't know. I think it's gotten out of hand when my 67-year-old mother zones out of a conversation we're having because she's reading and answering a text message.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 5:33 AM on August 24, 2013


My late 60s technophone and increasingly grumpy Boomer dad spends half his time in the car and at malls and restaurants talking about the idiots and morons and lamebrains who can't get off their phones. He spends the other half of the time fumbling with his iPhone ("this piece of shit doesn't work") compulsively checking his email (while loudly complaining about how email ruined America), and texting with his work/sports sidekick like they're middle school BFFs, or checking scores and reading reviews while ignoring others around him.

The cognitive dissonance always gives me a bit of vertigo. And lemon face.
posted by snuffleupagus at 6:10 AM on August 24, 2013


Btw Charlene deGuzman, star of this vid, is a refreshingly funny and smart up and coming comedian : tweets, videos

Yeah, her videos are good. Funny and cleverly set up.
posted by snuffleupagus at 6:53 AM on August 24, 2013


people experiencing a concert through the back of their iPhone.

a few years ago a friend and I went to a concert (Won tickets to the cheap seats!) Major experience of the night was the teenage couple behind us filming themselves making out with the concert behind them, who drunkenly fell onto us and just kept filming and snogging as they rolled over us and down to the seats below
... and then proceeded to continue filming themselves groping each other right in front of us...

hope I am not on facebook in that movie but I probably am.
posted by chapps at 6:59 AM on August 24, 2013 [1 favorite]


As an old guy with a dumb phone in my pocket, I'm really in no position to judge the world of smart phone users. Yesterday in the parking lot I graciously let a youngster live by not running her over while she strolled in front of my car, engrossed in her device. But I've even heard young people annoyed by smart phone scenarios like this one that began annoying me this past summer:

Group of people amiably chatting. A matter of what happened when to whom or what a word means or which -stan country has the most egregious dictator comes up. In the old days, opinions were tossed around, sometimes a state of not-knowing resulted. Fine with me! Now, there is some guy (I guess it could conceivably be a woman) who whips out his phone and finds The Answer. You could argue it is a good thing. I'd take issue with you. Fisticuffs would ensue. (You would be at a disadvantage is you were unable to release your grasp on your phone, of course, unless you really trust your Otter or you have one of those old cell phones the size of bricks.)

It's not unlike having a camera (remember those?). Last year I went to New Orleans. Sometimes I carried a camera, in which case I would be constantly framing shots as I walked. However, forgetting to bring my camera to the famous cemetery just north of the French Quarter turned out to be a good thing. There were just too many great shots (all of them on Tumblr, I'm sure), and I got to just enjoy the place.

So, yeah, I'm that pretty Asian girl, aside from jumping up and down because my bowling ball didn't go into the gutter.
posted by kozad at 8:16 AM on August 24, 2013


... a shiny black mirror
posted by Tom-B at 8:45 AM on August 24, 2013 [3 favorites]


We have been in this restaurant for an hour and you have spent at least 30 minutes looking at your phone.

And you say "Hey, great to see you, I gotta go" and leave. I love this video, but that’s the part that got left out. When the phone comes out I’m gone. Isn’t that what you do when someone is being rude, not sit there and suffer like in the video? I’m not going to chastise someone about their phone use, they can do whatever they want and I’m no one’s dad. But I’m not going to chastise them about belching or gossiping either, I’m just going to be nice and leave.


I think kbanas spoke the truth about 90% of the matter, the rest is mostly people making excuses. Addicts do that a lot.
posted by bongo_x at 9:19 AM on August 24, 2013 [5 favorites]


I haven't changed my behavior at all since smart phones. I used to read books that way. I used to get up from the dinner table to go look things up. I was the kid in the parking lot you almost ran down, because I was walking while I was reading. I read at the dinner table.

But if you made me put my book away, I sort of looked as if I was paying attention, but I wasn't. I was telling myself stories, planning, speculating, or, if things went on too long, rocking slightly in my chair because the effort of behaving myself was getting to me. Or I was interrupting. If I take a class, I have to take notes compulsively (whether on paper or on computer) because otherwise I'll call out, talk to my neighbors, or just get up and walk. For me, the point is not that phones have made me think I can multitask. It's that I've never been able to do anything but multitask.

Now I am not alone in my behavior. It's rather nice.
posted by Peach at 4:30 AM on August 25, 2013 [2 favorites]


Interesting how people are focusing so much on the rudeness of someone using their phone while they are with you. I think the video has a lot more to say than that, like how people are not living in the moment but just trying to document life. And that's a tough balancing act. I love looking back through photos that I would never have had in the days of cameras, and especially not in the days of film cameras. But you can get too caught up in it, especially if you always have the recording device with you.
posted by smackfu at 1:18 PM on August 26, 2013 [2 favorites]


I use my smartphone all the time, but I don't have one.

I liked this video more than I like most internet sketch videos. Subtle, and not of the SNL school of "funny" (yell catchphrase over and over, louder each time, until funny). Does anyone have any links to more like it?
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