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November 22, 2013 5:29 AM   Subscribe

Charles Manson Today: The Final Confessions of a Psychopath. He made for terrific TV. But after a booming, almost sexually aggressive chat with Diane Sawyer in 1994, the state of California banned the use of recording devices during prisoner interviews. This upsets Manson greatly. It's the reason why you haven't heard from him lately. He tends to sulk about it.
posted by Sticherbeast (26 comments total) 11 users marked this as a favorite
 
well hell, the transcripts of his parole hearings "I'll kill them, kill them all, and pile their bodies to the sky" are enough .. The guy is about as crazy pants as they come.
posted by k5.user at 6:17 AM on November 22, 2013 [1 favorite]


Do excuse me, I gotta go...scrub my brain with bleach or something after reading that.
posted by halcyonday at 6:23 AM on November 22, 2013 [1 favorite]


He looks sort of like Gary Glitter these days.
posted by Artw at 6:29 AM on November 22, 2013


He's a bit more than a psychopath, I would say. But he does always have great quotes, I see why a magazine would want to speak to him still.
posted by agregoli at 6:45 AM on November 22, 2013


I occasionally wonder what a properly-medicated Charlie Manson would've acted like.
posted by not_on_display at 6:49 AM on November 22, 2013 [1 favorite]


True, but he had a horrible life prior to the murders too.
posted by agregoli at 7:03 AM on November 22, 2013


"Good. If they're bullying you, they're afraid. They're just a bunch of Internet fat mouths," he says. Although, of course, he's never been on the Internet in his life.


I think he'd like it.
posted by codacorolla at 7:05 AM on November 22, 2013 [21 favorites]


The best part is the twist ending that the article is from the future!
posted by ian1977 at 7:21 AM on November 22, 2013 [3 favorites]


This upsets Manson greatly. It's the reason why you haven't heard from him lately.

Stick a fork in him; he's done.
posted by pracowity at 7:33 AM on November 22, 2013


"I know this, because I have been on the receiving end for months now. He calls while I'm at the movies, while I'm driving, while I'm at cocktail parties, while I'm walking my dogs in the park, while I am everyplace he'll never be again."

It must be really surreal when your friends ask "who's that calling you all the time?" and you answer with "Charles Manson."
posted by gucci mane at 8:06 AM on November 22, 2013 [21 favorites]


I started reading but stopped on the first page when Manson starts creepily fondling the reporter while reminiscing about the good ol' orgy days while his 25-year-old girlfriend gets his candy bars and soda ready.

Yech. Why would anyone keep going? What could Charles Manson possibly have to offer of interest now?
posted by mediareport at 8:08 AM on November 22, 2013 [1 favorite]


"People are so weird"

You got that right, sister.
posted by CosmicRayCharles at 8:14 AM on November 22, 2013 [1 favorite]


He looks sort of like Gary Glitter these days.

Yeah, except for the swastika.
posted by TedW at 8:30 AM on November 22, 2013


I read about half of the story and stopped once I realized there was nothing being revealed that I didn't already about what a sad little man Manson is. He's actually boring and even more pathetic in his old age. No one gives a shit about an incarcerated 79-yr old psychopath and that's exactly the way it should be. What's sad is that the confused young girl who he's conned like so many before her will outlive him but she'll never outlive the internet search results every time an employer or friend googles her name.
posted by photoslob at 8:34 AM on November 22, 2013 [3 favorites]


I should have waited before posting that.

"Whoever gets killed, that's the will of God. Without killing, we got no chance." He paused, then went on, "You might want to keep that out of your paper and say to yourself, 'How can that work for me?'" At the time, I didn't think much of it. It took a while for what he was suggesting to sink in.

What is he suggesting here?

Then he'll get irritated about something and start shouting, "I'm an outlaw, I'm a gangster, I'm a rebel, I'm a desperado, and I don't fire no warning shots," which always makes me smile, because it's a pretty comical thing to say about yourself.

I gotta admit, this is pretty comical. It sounds like something out of Sin City that Mickey Rourke would say.
posted by gucci mane at 8:37 AM on November 22, 2013




gucci mane --

I took the suggestion to be "The end is coming and it will be dog eat dog and you might want to keep this wisdom quiet so you can kill rather than be killed".
posted by jclarkin at 8:44 AM on November 22, 2013 [2 favorites]


The second thing [you notice about Manson] is how nicely turned out he is. Despite his age, there's none of that gross old-man stuff about him, no ear hair, no nose hair, no gunk collecting in the corners of his mouth, and his prison-approved blue shirt has not a wrinkle or a food stain on it.

Ugh. Ageist much, Erik Hedegaard?
posted by scody at 8:44 AM on November 22, 2013 [4 favorites]


"I'm an outlaw, I'm a gangster, I'm a rebel, I'm a desperado, and I don't fire no warning shots," which always makes me smile, because it's a pretty comical thing to say about yourself.

Hehe. I see crap like this on the FB feeds of some of my trashier relatives. Usually in some stupid image with a "This is SO TRUE, LOL".

Sigh.
posted by Pogo_Fuzzybutt at 8:46 AM on November 22, 2013 [2 favorites]


Man, fuck this guy. On one hand, I was kind of disappointed to hear that Shawcross had died without much fanfare, but then I got to thinking, GOOD. Guy deserved to be put into the ground without being celebrated. Same goes for Manson.
posted by disconnect at 8:59 AM on November 22, 2013 [1 favorite]


I wonder if Boyd Rice is still in touch with Manson.

I wonder if Boyd Rice still dresses up like a Nazi.

I wonder if Boyd Rice still acts like a misogynist.

I wonder if Boyd Rice still lives with his Mother.

Oh wait: NO I DON'T.
posted by alex_skazat at 9:44 AM on November 22, 2013 [4 favorites]


> she'll never outlive the internet search results every time an employer or friend googles her name.

Well, there's also the cross she's carved into her forehead.
posted by The Card Cheat at 10:24 AM on November 22, 2013


Guy deserved to be put into the ground without being celebrated. Same goes for Manson.

Hey, he's not all bad. For instance, there's that time he rescued Timmy from the well.
posted by Atom Eyes at 3:16 PM on November 22, 2013 [2 favorites]


I'm struck by the contrasting characters of Manson and Bugliosi. They are the same age, each from modest background, each the product of diametrically opposed life choices. Bugliosi did all the "right" things, but Manson gets all the attention, forever. Charlie is stuck in jail, which is a downer, but he has 25-year-old women throwing themselves at him. He's the only destitute 80-year-old man on the planet with those bragging rights.

It would be fodder for an opera, but I see someone's already written one.
posted by gentian at 7:50 PM on November 22, 2013


I took the suggestion to be "The end is coming and it will be dog eat dog and you might want to keep this wisdom quiet so you can kill rather than be killed".

Probably. This is the gist of Manson's whole worldview. It's why he committed the crimes he did in the 60s. Start the apocalypse yourself and you have a better chance of coming out on top.

The problem with this is that Charles Manson is wrong/evil/psycho/twisted/all of the above, whichever you prefer.
posted by Sara C. at 8:24 PM on November 22, 2013


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posted by Ray Walston, Luck Dragon at 9:37 PM on November 22, 2013


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