What Gener Was Talking About

November 24, 2013 12:19 PM

These demos represent the final writings and music of Gene Ween, before he departed and the inner FREEMAN emerged. On that note, we have received a two word personal statement from Aaron: "stay tuned."

previously - including this particularly insightful comment by kjh

posted by mannequito (19 comments total)

RIP Gener. Thanks for everything.
posted by frenetic at 12:37 PM on November 24, 2013 [1 favorite]

I doubt Ween will be having a reunion anytime soon based on how things ended, but I hope that's not the last I hear from them (individually or together). Marvelous Clouds was a fine album, but I'm more curious to hear what a solo album of songs written by Freeman himself would sound like.

And I hope Dean doesn't retire to fishing completely. He's one of the most versatile guitarists I know.
posted by fishmasta at 12:41 PM on November 24, 2013 [2 favorites]

And I hope Dean doesn't retire to fishing completely. He's one of the most versatile guitarists I know.

The episode of Guitar Moves with Dean was awesome.
posted by uncleozzy at 12:57 PM on November 24, 2013 [5 favorites]

And I hope Dean doesn't retire to fishing completely. He's one of the most versatile guitarists I know.

Moistboyz just released a new album, so he hasn't retired yet.
posted by dortmunder at 1:02 PM on November 24, 2013 [1 favorite]

They've got an awesome sound.
posted by mintcake! at 1:13 PM on November 24, 2013

Moistboyz will never retire.
posted by Saxon Kane at 1:19 PM on November 24, 2013 [1 favorite]

I was just mourning the passing of Ween a couple days ago while listening to White Pepper (my personal favorite). Was going to make a MeFi post to talk about it, no less. I remember listening to it on release thinking that their must be some hidden rancor between the two hearing Falling Out, even if its not strictly about Melchiondo . I don't feel that Ween will ever really be dead, however. Even if it takes ten years for the fake brothers Ween to find each other again. Gene Ween isn't a person obviously, it's a state of being.

I also remember reading about the flameout slash breakup when it happened and seeing footage of Freeman for the first time in unnumbered years and thinking "Holy fuck, who is this old man singing for Ween now?"

So I can see why he may have wanted to divorce himself from the relentlessly immature Ween.
posted by mediocre at 1:24 PM on November 24, 2013

the relentlessly immature Ween

I dunno. The Mollusk continues to strike me as one of the most mature albums I've ever heard. But it does, granted, seem to be the outlier of the Ween catalog.
posted by hippybear at 2:23 PM on November 24, 2013 [1 favorite]

The Mollusk continues to strike me as one of the most mature albums I've ever heard.

"Waving My Dick In The Wind" excepted of course.
posted by evisceratordeath at 2:32 PM on November 24, 2013 [1 favorite]

I felt sad that I didn't really connect with the last Gener demos like I thought I would. (I bought them as soon as they became available, because WEEN.) Though, too, I still haven't clicked with La Cucaracha as a whole. Some songs I love ("Fiesta", "Object", "With My Own Bare Hands", "Friends" - though I think the EP version was better, Shamemaker (which is SO Cracker)), but a lot of it is kinda meh ("Woman and Man", "Blue Balloon", "Your Party"), and one I flat out hate ("Fruit Man").

Of course, I'm thinking that these are pre-meeting-with-Deaner demos? So perhaps it's that they ARE in more of an unfinished state than Ween Demos (which I've heard a lot of and often dig) typically are.
posted by Rev. Syung Myung Me at 2:39 PM on November 24, 2013 [1 favorite]

"Gener's Gone" really seems to have an air of self aware finality about it. But that's probably just a happenstance retrospective analysis.
posted by mediocre at 2:42 PM on November 24, 2013

Thanks for the Moistboyz tip. Missed it all somehow. Am digging Paperboy at the moment.
posted by freakazoid at 3:54 PM on November 24, 2013

That Paperboy video is fucking great.
posted by mannequito at 6:18 PM on November 24, 2013

Ween is of a specific early-to-late 90's vintage with an exquisitely disturbing and trashy bouquet up front, followed by a long finish of superbly placed intellectual piss, vinegar and fox's ass. Unfortunately the lot's decanting life has well passed it's optimal date, but cases kept cool and out of sunlight can still be found and are best enjoyed at raucous moments of unkempt nostalgia.
posted by Annika Cicada at 6:29 PM on November 24, 2013 [4 favorites]

I am almost certain Ween would say fuck right off to that description of themselves.
posted by JLovebomb at 5:16 AM on November 25, 2013 [2 favorites]

I'm not in to the demos, but glad they both have survived so far.
I can't wait for his first proper studio outing of original material.
posted by Theta States at 6:24 AM on November 25, 2013

You forgot to mention the distinct guava, chocolate, cheese, and white pepper notes.
posted by Strange Interlude at 6:41 AM on November 25, 2013 [1 favorite]

What's that unholy glow I see?
Could BOOGNISH once again be rising??
posted by Dr. Wu at 7:26 AM on November 25, 2013

"Waving My Dick In The Wind" excepted of course.

That's a rather immature assumption.
posted by snottydick at 10:19 AM on November 26, 2013