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December 11, 2013 1:35 PM   Subscribe

Wayside Creations' surprisingly high-budget, on location shot Fallout New Vegas fan-series returns with: Nuka Break Season 2! (Full episode playlist). Rejoin Twig the Vault-Dweller, Ben The Ghoul , Scarlet The Escaped Slave and the Mysterious Ranger as they deal with the explosive aftermath of Season 1. (Nuka Break Previously, Wayside Creations previously)
posted by The Whelk (47 comments total) 19 users marked this as a favorite

 
psst, typo on slave
posted by BrotherCaine at 1:42 PM on December 11, 2013


Some very good news ...
posted by jbickers at 1:45 PM on December 11, 2013 [2 favorites]


sometimes I feel like Bart in the Kamp Krusty episode "New Fallout is coming, new fallout is coming..."
posted by The Whelk at 1:59 PM on December 11, 2013 [1 favorite]


No, not a typo. "Escaped Salve" is a lovely turn of phrase, ergo it cannot be a mere typo.

Maaayyyybe a "freudian typo" but that would be the extent of it.

So let it be written, so let it be done.
posted by aramaic at 2:00 PM on December 11, 2013 [1 favorite]


[Fixed. Lay off the Nuka Cola, man.]
posted by cortex at 2:06 PM on December 11, 2013


i can quit whenever I want man, I just have to go to literally any doctor
posted by The Whelk at 2:14 PM on December 11, 2013


Sarsaparilla's fine, though.
posted by Navelgazer at 2:15 PM on December 11, 2013


Can't get past the gratuitous fanservice. Maybe by the time I'm 70, video games will have matured to the point where I don't have to be embarrassed about my hobby.
posted by escape from the potato planet at 4:36 PM on December 11, 2013


Worth mentioning: the fake Fallout 4 ARG recently, followed by more Fallout 4 (unconfirmed) rumors.

I almost put together a FPP about the ARG since it was so convincing.
posted by codacorolla at 5:49 PM on December 11, 2013


Boston doesn't exactly scream post-apoc, but I'd be up for some hospital exploring. As for the shorts, the cinematography is getting better, but the first episode is rather steeped into cliché. Thanks for the update.
posted by ersatz at 5:56 PM on December 11, 2013


I'm happy if Bethesda leaves its meddling to the East Coast and lets other studios (hopefully Obsidian) to the canonical west coast, and thematically more interesting mid-west / Texas / Gulf States areas.

Apart from that, I think that the Institute and the frozen hell-hole that surrounds it has some promise for a setting. There're hints at both a cryo-frozen pre-war survivor, or some manner of android serving as the PC this time, which both seem pretty cool.

RE: Nuka Break... I think it's definitely cliche, but also fits the spirit of the games pretty well. And the production values are great (that Ranger armor!) I'm not really getting the fan service comment... do you mean scantily clad ladies, because I don't remember that from the first season and haven't encountered it in 2 so far.
posted by codacorolla at 6:04 PM on December 11, 2013


Damn, I wish I wasn't abysmally terrible at video games. The stuff coming down the pike just lately looks like such fun, and so well put-together.
posted by dogheart at 6:41 PM on December 11, 2013


Damn, I wish I wasn't abysmally terrible at video games.

The two most recent Fallout games are great—especially New Vegas. Give it a try! It's not a twitchy first-person shooter at all (unless you want it to be)—combat is handled through the VATS system, which lets you take your time picking your targets, weighing the pros and cons of different tactics, etc.

And they aren't particularly difficult games—there's so much to do that if you have difficulty with one thing, you can just go do other things until you're more powerful.

The vanilla version of New Vegas is only $9.99 on Steam right now, and will keep you occupied for many hours.
posted by escape from the potato planet at 7:21 PM on December 11, 2013 [2 favorites]


New Vegas is so good that it made me like Fallout 3 less in hindsight. Bethesda makes engines, Obsidian makes worlds.
posted by Justinian at 7:26 PM on December 11, 2013


Yeah I enjoyed F3 but I developed an emotionally co-dependant relationship with New Vegas, even knowing like half the planned content is missing, it feels like a distinct, lived in world.
posted by The Whelk at 7:46 PM on December 11, 2013


No! Fallout 3 is way better than New Vegas, and anyone that says otherwise is fixing for a fight. I may be in the minority but I believe this with every fiber of my being. Something about exploring the DC ruins is so great. New Vegas just had a totally different vibe and it just didn't do it for me. As much. I mean, I still put in like 60 hours, so, you know.

But Fallout 3. Three Dog Lives!
posted by kbanas at 8:04 PM on December 11, 2013 [1 favorite]



I almost put together a FPP about the ARG since it was so convincing.

I was honestly trying to combine the two until like three days ago when it revealed to be a hoax.

Something about exploring the DC ruins is so great. New Vegas just had a totally different vibe and it just didn't do it for me. As much. I mean, I still put in like 60 hours, so, you know.


I will say this, I enjoyed exploring urban ruins more then I enjoyed exploring desert towns but the characters and world-building (and humor) of NV drew me in more.
posted by The Whelk at 8:07 PM on December 11, 2013


Yeah I enjoyed F3 but I developed an emotionally co-dependant relationship with New Vegas, even knowing like half the planned content is missing, it feels like a distinct, lived in world.

So, this, but exactly the opposite. Am I seriously alone here? Fallout 3 is seriously my favorite game of all time forever. It's sick, really. There's a sense of decay and urban exploration that feels missing from New Vegas for me. Plus, the Lone Wanderer is so much cooler than the Courier.
posted by kbanas at 8:09 PM on December 11, 2013


That's fair enough. Fawkes will spare you... for now.
posted by kbanas at 8:11 PM on December 11, 2013


Fallout 3 is Post-Apocalyptic.

New Vegas is Post-Post-Apocalyptic

And the best detail ever are the slanted shelves full of cameras and tin-cans in Episode 2. I kinda screamed when I saw that.
posted by The Whelk at 8:14 PM on December 11, 2013


I am biased slightly because on launch New Vegas was riddled with bugs... Like, a lot even for a Bethesda/Obsidian game, and my game got wedged in some state where some NCR guy wouldn't spawn so I could complete the final battle and between that and the crashing every 20 minutes I was super grumbly about the entire thing, which is probably unfair to the game itself in a lot of ways. These have probably largely been addressed.

Let's keep talking Fallout forever.

If you're at all interested, checkout /r/fallout over on Reddit. They were all over the ARG stuff and a lot of neat/funny stuff gets posted over there.
posted by kbanas at 8:18 PM on December 11, 2013


Last post, then I'll stop... Getgamesgo.com had the GOTY edition of New Vegas on sale this last weekend. $4.99 for the game and all DLC together (!!!!)... And you got a Steam key for the whole bundle. I picked it up for my wife, who has yet to experience New Vegas. Not sure if it's still going on, but that's a pretty great deal.
posted by kbanas at 8:25 PM on December 11, 2013


As someone who's lived around DC for a long time, the treatment it got in FO3 was really disappointing.
posted by codacorolla at 8:31 PM on December 11, 2013


really all I wanted was an absurdly long Dupont Circle escalator.
posted by The Whelk at 8:38 PM on December 11, 2013


Fallout 3 = 157 hours played.
Fallout: New Vegas = 323 hours played.

Just having had a rather spirited discussion at work about the merits of the (modern) Fallout games (and Skyrim) at work today, this post feels a bit well timed. And welcome, I might add.

He was of the opinion that something like Mass Effect was a better story telling experience. It had a job to do, and it did it. He was wrong, obviously, and here's why. Mass Effect, and in general, most triple A games these days, tell a single story. They do this job as well as one would expect, must like a tentpole hollywood summer blockbuster would . Which is to say, not very well, but it sure is fun and pretty to look at.

The disagreement I put forth was this... in the Fallout games and the Elder Scrools games, I get to tell war stories.

Case in point: let's say you and I are both playing Mass Effect. We start a new game at the same time. For the first ten hours our so, we really have nothing to talk about other than things we both have done in about the same time frame. Ten hours in we are both the same, story and character wise. He might be a bit more combat oriented and i might be a bit more tactical. But it's the same damn thing.

Fallout: New Vegas, ten hours in, and you have just made your way to the third leg of the story, following the quest markers and linear story design, nothing special. I, on the other hand, have gotten chased to New Vegas proper by a rouge deathclaw, via the red rocks canyon, then I led that beast to the Kahns, where he ate every last one of them, then he chased me to a bunker of angry powder gangers hiding in an isolated vault you never found. Helping them, I then escaped the vault where the deathclaw was STILL waiting for me to come out, ran past him, locking the gate behind me, and into a tribe of bandits waiting to ambush me and never expecting to find a ravenous deathclaw looking for his next meal there to devour them instead of me. A near dead monster then turned to me, and with the weapons I got from helping the powder gangers, I put two shells in his brain and casually limp my way into New Vegas a conquering hero.

This kind of war story is why I play these games. You make your own legend up as you play. Everything else is just an extended movie. Metal Gear Solid, I'm looking at you.
posted by gideonswann at 9:16 PM on December 11, 2013 [2 favorites]


I am stuck in New Vegas, and have been for about nine months. I am at a point in the plot where I need to decide which faction to support and all the options seem sort of awful and I don't really care for any of the companions or completing their quests so maybe I should polish off the DLC but then Johnny Guitar comes on the radio so I leave the game because ... uggh, Johnny Guitar. So I exit the game and play some ME3 multiplayer or Dragon Age 2 for the nth time.

I miss Three Dog.
posted by rewil at 9:21 PM on December 11, 2013


rewil, support yourself. kill mr. house, say hell no to the ncr and legion and become your own government. it's easy, be the autocrat you would most want to support, yourself!
posted by gideonswann at 9:24 PM on December 11, 2013


That does seem to be the best choice, at least for the first playthrough. (Power corrupts, though! I don't want to become a monster! But it works for the short term.)

I will, eventually, try out all the options. I like poking into all the nooks and crannies in these games. I just need to get myself back into the swing of things.
posted by rewil at 9:40 PM on December 11, 2013


The Whelk's Three New Vegas Adventures:

Banders: A charismatic medical doctor with a silver tongue. Cuts a swath toward New Vegas based on charm, persuasion, and an extensive knowledge of field limb repair. Diehard NCR through and through, turns over Primm, saves the President, disconnects Mr. House, while maintaining his do-gooer karma and perfect charm, mostly when dealing with rival gangs. Totally depends on companions for the dirty work and has melted the cynical heart of Arcade Ganon. Does not hesitate to nuke the Legion. Fixes a lot of social problems around with his quick wits and know-how. NCR FOREVER!

Lass: A brilliant but asocial and aggressively anti-charismatic woman, Lass gets what she needs done through technical knowledge and stealth. A master sniper, she's rarely in the same room when she kills somebody, but she'd prefer to find a way to flood their rooms with deadly nuerotoxin or rob them blind. Stalwart and stuck on her main goal, she avoids all faction entanglements and decides to let all the settlements rule for themselves with No Gods, No Masters. Despite this, she follows Veronica on her quest, both for the rich technical knowledge it contains, and because she sees a bit of herself in the young scribe.

Decki: 1 INTL and 9 LUCK, Decki punches first and does not ask questions, cause why the fuck would you ask questions? Rage stomping, body looting, bomb throwing Decki must be bleesed by the gods cause he is as dumb as the world is wide and always comes out unharmed. Thinks the Legion has nice outfits and a liberal "shooting fleeing townsfolk" policy. Yeah, no one made it out of Goodsprings alive.
posted by The Whelk at 9:43 PM on December 11, 2013 [1 favorite]


Who says Kickstarter doesn't deliver? I got my Nuka Break Season 2 last week and my Wasteland 2 beta access today. If anyone needs me, I'll be in my bunk.
posted by hades at 9:59 PM on December 11, 2013


The Whelk you are a mutant after my own heart. Just remember it's MY heart, and even with the cannibal perk, you can't have it.
posted by gideonswann at 10:09 PM on December 11, 2013 [1 favorite]


I'm so confused by people who liked FO3 better than NV! I can't think of a single thing FO3 did better. None of it makes any sense! The ending doesn't make any sense! WHY CANT THE BIG MUTANT GUY GO INTO THE CHAMBER INSTEAD OF ME. BECAUSE REASONS.
posted by Justinian at 11:00 PM on December 11, 2013


Does not hesitate to nuke the Legion.

But surely by this point you've walked into the Legion's compound and killed every last slaving motherfucker that was there...
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 11:11 PM on December 11, 2013


But there are children there, and they ...just keep...playing

*shudder*
posted by The Whelk at 11:17 PM on December 11, 2013


The ending doesn't make any sense!

That was the last straw for me, the first time I played it through. I had put up with Liam Neeson's terrible voice acting and a bunch of stupid forced choices with only mild grumbling, but at that point I lost it and started shouting obscenities at the screen.

They've fixed it since then, I think as part of the Broken Steel DLC. Fawkes will go into the radiation-filled chamber for you again. You get painted in the end cinematic as a coward who shirked your duty to emulate your father and sacrifice yourself, and Fawkes gets called a true hero (not like you, you coward), but fuck it. The character who is immune to radiation finally gets to go into the radiation-filled chamber and push the buttons, instead of telling you it's your destiny to kill yourself doing it. I'm still pissed about the original writing there, though.
posted by hades at 11:19 PM on December 11, 2013


The vanilla version of New Vegas is only $9.99 on Steam right now, and will keep you occupied for many hours.
Steam Winter Sale is days away and Bethesda games are always on sale.
posted by fullerine at 1:06 AM on December 12, 2013


WHY CANT THE BIG MUTANT GUY GO INTO THE CHAMBER INSTEAD OF ME. BECAUSE REASONS.

Because it's your story, not Fawkes'. Who goes through all that and then asks someone else to close the circle? I agree Neeson sounded pretty bored - almost as flat as Sean Bean in Oblivion. But I loved loved loved the moment when you turn the machine on and see the silhouette of the human figure that for a moment might be anyone.

Anyway.

In the Fallout 4 games I make up in my head you play as a supermutant, intelligent like Marcus or Fawkes. Sort of. In stressful situations sometimes you can't keep it together and you go totally berserk, hallucinate freely, and kill pretty much everyone and everything you can reach, until you calm down. You're a bit like the Hulk in that sense. Gameplay-wise I always imagine this as a meter that starts to go into the red when you're frightened/in pain, people are trying to hurt you or people you care about, etc. It's not really something you can control. It happens or it doesn't.

There's a back story in which you live the life of a child and then a teenager in a vault (this is the mandatory tutorial chapter, gah), which ends with an attack by supermutants in which you are captured and presumably given a FEV bath.

You can acquire companions, and each provides both a benefit and a drawback: there's a little girl, and when she travels with you it's nearly impossible for you to go berserk. If you are berserk, she can calm you down almost instantly. Her drawback is that she will try to leave you whenever she finds a couple who agree to adopt her. This makes it tricky for you to go into settlements if you want to keep her around.

There's an elderly gent who is your classic salesman/politician type. He is very good at making settlements friendly enough towards you that they will allow you in, but if he is left in a settlement too long he will get into mischief and the people there will drive him, and you, out for good.

There's a centaur who was once a philosophy professor and somehow managed to retain her mind after the transformation. Travelling and conversing with her will boost your long-term ability to resist going berserk, an effect that persists even when the professor isn't around. The drawback is that no settlement, regardless of how friendly they are to you, will ever allow you in with her as your companion. Also, centaurs don't move very fast so you'll be going a lot slower.

And so on.

So, some of the game is about exploring and managing relationships with companions, and also with wasteland settlements. Nearly all human settlements are initially hostile, but if you prove yourself they will gradually start to trust you. Supermutant bases are the opposite: the more of your humanity you retain, the less they will tolerate you. And they won't tolerate non-mutated companions at all.

Another part of the game is about managing yourself. Get into a lot of fights and you will improve as a fighter and become ever-more destructive when berserk, but regular people cease to relate to you (in the game your conversational options are skewed towards violence) and the easier it is to fall into a rage. Or you can avoid conflict, make more friends, and be less effective and more vulnerable in a fight.

Oh yeah, and it also has a story of some sort.

In most games you start out with nothing and fight to gain everything, so for a change I'd like to play a game where you start out powerful and fight to keep things from being slowly and inevitably taken away.

Get on it, Bethesda.
posted by um at 1:07 AM on December 12, 2013 [2 favorites]


If you liked NV because of the charm of its writing and you could live without 3D graphics, you should try playing Fallout 2. It occupies the same post-post-apoc niche, you get to form (or not) NCR, it has possibly the best writing of the series and it has some really memorable quests that you can solve just by being chatty or, the old-fashioned way, by punching people in the face. You also get to play in New Reno.

Old World Blues was very enjoyable DLC for NV that you should play if you appreciate SF B-movies in the slightest.
posted by ersatz at 2:24 AM on December 12, 2013 [1 favorite]


No! Fallout 3 is way better than New Vegas, and anyone that says otherwise is fixing for a fight.

I loved, loved, loved Fallout 3 but somehow New Vegas never really grabbed me. I quit after a dozen hours or so and never went back. The desert setting is just so boring and repetitive.
posted by octothorpe at 5:27 AM on December 12, 2013


Old World Blues is - in terms of tone - as close to the original Fallout series as the reboots have come.
posted by absalom at 6:34 AM on December 12, 2013


Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics are free on GOG for the next 48 hrs. Then in January they disappear from there forever; something to do with litigation.
posted by griphus at 7:02 AM on December 12, 2013 [2 favorites]


Damn, looks like GOG is getting hammered. I still have my originals, but I wouldn't mind having them redownloadable on GOG. griphus, comment of the year.
posted by ersatz at 7:30 AM on December 12, 2013


i am installing wasteland 2 as we speak. someone had to be told.
posted by Justinian at 12:35 PM on December 12, 2013


For the love of god, max out toaster repair!

I'm not one for betas, but getting the KS update gave me the warm fuzzies.

posted by ersatz at 1:36 PM on December 12, 2013


This is better than Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in nearly every way.
posted by entropicamericana at 7:23 PM on December 12, 2013


Thanks guys, now I'm stuck playing New Vegas again... it's not like I haven't spent over 230 hours ingame already.
About GOG: you won't be able to buy FO 1, 2 and Tactics in the future, but of course still be allowed to download you owned copy.
posted by SAnderka at 1:26 AM on December 13, 2013


I am really excited about rumors of a fourth. I was just playing New Vegas again today, wistfully wishing there were another one. We were hoping it wouldn't be in New York - the possible location referenced above looks like it could be pretty cool, though.

It is interesting though, how much loyalty it gets and rightfully deserves.
posted by corb at 7:29 AM on December 15, 2013


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