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Dilma Rousseff's Political Future and the World Cup
July 12, 2014 7:01 AM   Subscribe

Dilma Rousseff is the current president of Brazil and the first woman to hold the office. She faces re-election in October this year. While by the end of her first year in office she held higher approval ratings than any of her directly elected predecessors (59%), by early June of 2014 her approval rating had fallen to its lowest point (33%) since she assumed office in January 2011. A major contributor to this decline in approval ratings has been the country's hosting of the World Cup, plagued by cost overruns and accidents during hasty infrastructure construction. Estimated to have cost the country between $11 and $14 billion, the World Cup sparked protests up to the opening game (previously). Stadium construction was carried out in 12 instead of the required 8 cities, resulting in white elephants projects in Brasília and Manaus. Brazil's crushing 7-1 loss to Germany in the World Cup semifinals generated speculation about its impact on Dilma Rousseff's political future. While some sports moments are attributed to have changed the course of national politics and identity, how the World Cup loss will affect Dilma Rousseff's re-election chances remains murky.
posted by needled (759 comments total) 12 users marked this as a favorite

 
Eight people died during construction of those stadiums. Leading up to WC10 in South Africa there was one death, for WC06 there was luckily none.

As for the stadiums being obsolete, I came across a proposal to, at least partly, convert them into housing. “Casa Futebol” Proposes a Different Olympic Legacy For Brazil’s Stadiums
posted by travelwithcats at 8:49 AM on July 12


It's frustrating but unsurprising that seven goals might affect her career more than eight deaths.
posted by justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow at 9:00 AM on July 12 [6 favorites]


call me a half-full type but I can't help but see that 7-1 loss as a positive for Brazil. Because the potential is there for maturation. A nation gets to look at itself in the mirror and wonder what the f*** it's doing mourning over a lost game when it's got all manner of real problems and challenges that need attention. In other words, the football humiliation could be an Emperor's New Clothes moment with the corruption, indulgence, incompetence of those running the nation suddenly becoming very visible to all, and thus ... CHANGE.

Here's hoping.
posted by philip-random at 9:01 AM on July 12 [1 favorite]


The worst now for Brazil in this WC is if Argentina wins....
posted by Bwithh at 9:19 AM on July 12


From Goldblatt's The Ball Is Round:
It was not as if Argentina had not had a long time to prepare for hosting the World Cup. They had been awarded the hosting rights to the 1978 event in 1964 at FIFA's Tokyo congress. But by the time of Peron's death little had been achieved beyond deciding that the country would somehow find the money for three completely new stadiums in cities with minuscule football teams - Mendoza, Mar del Plata and Cordoba; facelifts for other stadiums in Rosario and Buenos Aires; and a major upgrade of air, road and telecommunications links throughout the country. Money was meant to be coming in from the recently established football pools, but somehow it never quite managed to arrive. [...] FIFA's visits to review the preparations verged on the farcical; one trip to a park in Mendoza that would be cleared for a stadium that was not yet designed and no visit at all to Mar del Plata owing to transport problems. [After the military coup in 1976,] a harsh economic programme was introduced, slashing public spending and restraining inflation at the cost of widespread industrial recession and unemployment. Nonetheless, money was found to execute the preparations for the World Cup. The roads, airports and stadiums were built or rebuilt, and Argentina acquired colour television though the World Cup itself would only be seen in colour outside the country. The total cost of the spectacular remains uncertain but it was at least $700 million - considerably more than was spent in Spain four years later and far more than was prudently available from the Argentinian national budget. Opposition to the Mundial at home and abroad was brushed aside.
Nothing ever changes, it just gets more expensive.
posted by languagehat at 10:20 AM on July 12 [4 favorites]


And after this they can look forward to the 2016 Rio Olympics because if there is one organisation that is a paragon of clean governance and sustainable, cost effective sporting events it's the International Olympic Committee.
posted by PenDevil at 10:40 AM on July 12


for WC06 there was luckily none.

I think luck had very little to do with it, and the prevalence of already existing top class stadiums and worker protection laws in Germany had everything to do with it -- similar to the lack-of-people-dying to set up the London Olympics.

One of the logical positives for the US or UK hosting again is they already have plenty of top flight stadiums and plenty of transport links. The real factor against them is they also have very strong and strongly enforced anti-corruption laws, which makes it tougher for FIFA to payoff everybody it has to pay off to keep raking in the dough it does.
posted by eriko at 10:45 AM on July 12 [1 favorite]


Eight people died during construction of those stadiums.

Which works out to less than a month's worth of World Cup construction deaths in Qatar. All for a cup that's seeming less and less likely to ever actually be held there.

Qatar 2022 is a massive crime, and so far as reflecting poorly on the host country, puts the inevitable cost overruns and loss to Germany, even as comprehensive a loss as Brazil's, very much in perspective. Though I'm not sure the Brazilian voters will have quite as much forbearance about the whole thing.
posted by strangely stunted trees at 11:08 AM on July 12


For all the graft and bad choices in Brazil, it's nothing compared to Qatar. The Guardian has been covering this for awhile, but to little improvement in working conditions. Workers are dying on the Qatar construction at a rate of one a day.

Qatar government admits almost 1,000 fatalities among migrants. Who would have thought a massive construction effort would have been a problem in a country with an abysmal human trafficking record.
posted by 26.2 at 12:03 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]


The "Why Your World Cup Stadium Sucks" series on Deadspin is worth a read. Each stadium of the 2014 World Cup is rated along criteria such as number of workplace deaths and how corrupt it is.

Estádio Nacional de Brasilia, Brasília, where today's third place match between Brazil and the Netherlands is being played, is the most expensive stadium in Brazil, constructed with $900 million in public funds, where originally $300 million had been budgeted for its construction. Much of this overrun is attributed to graft and overbilling from the construction firm, which pocketed the difference.
posted by needled at 12:36 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]


The Guardian's MBM blog for today's Brazil/Netherlands consolation match has a lengthy prologue (7:30 pm BST entry) about the prospects for each side. Instead of the usual speculation about potential team lineups and strategies, the journo's cast his gaze farther afield, touching on Rousseff's political career and the emotional impact of this game on the nation of Brazil.
posted by ardgedee at 12:40 PM on July 12


but where is everyone

nvm found it
posted by elizardbits at 12:45 PM on July 12


Qatar government admits almost 1,000 fatalities among migrants.

Fuck.
posted by homunculus at 1:13 PM on July 12


"admits" is a hell of a word.
posted by ardgedee at 1:51 PM on July 12


As far as politics go, I think the pressing question is: if Argentina loses the World Cup, will they compensate by invading the Falklands?
posted by happyroach at 2:55 PM on July 12


Qatar government admits almost 1,000 fatalities among migrants.

In a nearby parallel universe, FIFA is flexing its muscles, insisting that the games will go elsewhere unless the worker death toll stops skyrocketing and the withholding of passports stops.

I'm surprised our-world FIFA doesn't yank it away. It gives them a pretext for a whole new round of bribery.
posted by justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow at 4:36 PM on July 12


Probably not, since it lowers their value if they're inconsistent.

Bribery is like any other form of capitalism: Premium product commands the best prices. Burning a client after they've paid you will be remembered by your client's peers.

I can't help but feel this indicates that in the 21st century FIFA and Olympic event locations are going to happen increasingly often at countries on the lower range of this chart, though.
posted by ardgedee at 6:20 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]


Manaus doesn't have a league football team. They built a stadium for the World Cup. It cost $300 Milllion. It was used for *four* games.
posted by dry white toast at 10:30 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]


Qatar will likely lose the 2022 WC. The pressure on FIFA is getting intense, not just from fans and observers but also their biggest sponsors. Sony, Adidas, Hyundai and others are calling for investigations into the awarding of the tournament to Qatar. The heat is a huge concern, enough that there have been proposals to play it in the winter. That's not happening because all of the major leagues are in full swing and they aren't going to be releasing hundreds of players to national teams.

The two top candidates for 2022 were said to be the US and Australia. I can't speak to how Australia's infrastructure is for holding the tournament but I would imagine it's pretty solid. The US is a turn-key option. We could host a World Cup on pretty short notice. 12 of the 20 largest stadiums in the world are in the US and we've got excellent transportation and other infrastructure. I can think of 10 stadiums just in the west coast states that would be able to host WC games.

I think the reason we're not hearing more from FIFA right now about reconsidering the 2022 host is because they've already got a World Cup tourney going on. They don't want to steal the media attention away from that. If they do indeed decide to re-vote 2022 it will be massive news in the soccer world. I think they will.
posted by azpenguin at 11:26 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]


[knocks]

Is this where the World Cup Final game day thread lives?
posted by wensink at 11:37 AM on July 13


It would be really funny if the mods reopened the cricket spam post and we used that instead.
posted by elizardbits at 11:38 AM on July 13 [2 favorites]


*peers around nervously*
posted by languagehat at 11:39 AM on July 13


[knocks]

Can ARGGER come out and play?
posted by wensink at 11:44 AM on July 13


So it turns out they built a completely unnecessary stadium in São Paulo for the World Cup, as they already had a newly built stadium.

Eagerly awaiting the writeup of Maracanã, where today's World Cup final takes place!
posted by needled at 11:45 AM on July 13


*Turns on flashlight. Spots empty cans of hair product in the corner.*
posted by Dr. Zira at 11:46 AM on July 13


Unless a new thread appears within the next 10 minutes we might as well use this one. Unfortunate, because this is a great post that deserves its own discussion but by god we need to shout about football somewhere
posted by elizardbits at 11:48 AM on July 13 [1 favorite]


You'll stay on topic as long as you remember to complain about something about this World Cup, FIFA, or corruption.
posted by needled at 11:50 AM on July 13


I left a big message in the old thread pointing people here.

COME ON ARGENTINA

Head - 3-1 to Germany, heart 3-0 to Argentina, anyone else?
posted by marienbad at 11:52 AM on July 13


I'm going with Germany 2-0.
posted by Dr. Zira at 11:53 AM on July 13


needled - that will be easy once they show Blatter on the big screen.
posted by marienbad at 11:53 AM on July 13


I hope they have a tacky closing ceremony like the Olympics in London.
posted by marienbad at 11:54 AM on July 13


Germany 3-1. I think Germany has more momentum; Argentina only won in penalty kicks (look at me, pretending I know anything about soccer).
posted by desjardins at 11:55 AM on July 13


They showed a bit of it on ESPN earlier. Carlos Santana was playing and there were samba dancers.
posted by Dr. Zira at 11:55 AM on July 13


Did Muller just wink at the camera? That's ace.
posted by marienbad at 11:55 AM on July 13


BOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just practicing for Blatter.
posted by eriko at 11:55 AM on July 13


I feel pretty certain that Germany will take it but Arg will give a good fight, maybe 3-2 with the last goal in extra time.
posted by elizardbits at 11:55 AM on July 13


German national anthem sounds like a hymn at a lutheran church.
posted by desjardins at 11:56 AM on July 13


It probably is, musically.
posted by marienbad at 11:57 AM on July 13


It's pouring with rain in my part of Germany and in the last five minutes I could see people scurrying between the houses to go watch with their friends. I like the feeling of being part of something even though I'm watching alone so that I can txt my husband and have English commentary.
posted by shelleycat at 11:57 AM on July 13


BOOOOOOO
posted by Dr. Zira at 11:57 AM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Dilma & Sepp!
posted by marienbad at 11:57 AM on July 13


My three year old is calling all soccer World Cump Soccer Ball so my World Cup won't end today
posted by shothotbot at 11:58 AM on July 13


Putin and Blatter sitting next to each other? C'MON METEOR FC.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 11:58 AM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Mueller is saucy.
posted by From Bklyn at 11:58 AM on July 13


Oh hey Sami Khedira is injured.
posted by Dr. Zira at 11:58 AM on July 13


Also I was oddly amused to see Putin entering the VIP area earlier. Doesn't he have a populace to oppress?
posted by elizardbits at 11:58 AM on July 13


Germany, but not by much. I think they can shut down Messi, or at least his supply, and keep with Lavezzi quietish.

Although, just seeing Khedira out. That could be huge.
posted by Pink Frost at 11:58 AM on July 13


saucy hahaha
posted by marienbad at 11:58 AM on July 13


Rooting for Messi here.
posted by shothotbot at 11:58 AM on July 13


Why don't the coaches get a shot of them crossing arms?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 11:59 AM on July 13


On the German national team, every German name sounds like the most German name until you read the next German name.
posted by dry white toast at 11:59 AM on July 13 [2 favorites]


And according to the Estado de São Paulo newspaper, police were teargassing protesters who appeared to be heading towards the stadium. This was a group that broke away from the main group of protesters on Ave. Conde de Bonfim, about 2 km from the stadium. Police are subduing them "with violence."
posted by needled at 11:59 AM on July 13 [2 favorites]


Ian Darke just noted that Jogi "could pass for a Bond villain." Why hasn't this man been knighted yet?
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:00 PM on July 13


oh fuck i have to get the washing out of the dryer

EVERYONE STOP PLAYING
posted by elizardbits at 12:00 PM on July 13


If I never hear the name Maradona again I will do a novena.
posted by syncope at 12:00 PM on July 13


I have friend in Brazil I've been texting with today, and essentially, Argentina winning on their turf would be the apocalypse.
posted by dry white toast at 12:01 PM on July 13


feels weird to favourite your comment there, needled.
posted by marienbad at 12:01 PM on July 13


Very tricksy of them to start earlier! Augh!
posted by TwoStride at 12:02 PM on July 13


Please don't fall down this time, Mueller.
posted by TwoStride at 12:03 PM on July 13


You just know the Germans won't be affected by the occasion and they'll be cool, efficient and ruthless, which is why I want Argentina to win.
posted by fullerine at 12:03 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


The Germans are planning some of their tricking.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:03 PM on July 13


Wow, I'm impressed by the lameness of that free kick.
posted by eriko at 12:03 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


Well, eriko, at least everyone remained upright on the attempt?
posted by TwoStride at 12:04 PM on July 13


i was sure it would at least lead to an effort on goal, ericko
posted by marienbad at 12:04 PM on July 13


Let's go Argentina! Cook those Germans like a delicious papilla.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 12:05 PM on July 13


Steve McManaman is my fav. Last Cup, he said "England plays like they are ponderous and fat" It's a running joke in our house - whenever someone is moving too slow we say "You're leaving the house like you're ponderous and fat" (Still funny, even though I might be both!)
posted by 26.2 at 12:06 PM on July 13


Needless to say I am hoping for an Argentine win but with di María missing in action I'm not exactly confident.
posted by languagehat at 12:06 PM on July 13


Wow, there's hatred, there's deep hatred, and there's this crowd and Argentina.
posted by eriko at 12:06 PM on July 13


Ref's under eye bags have under eye bags. He hasn't slept for four days and will start calling the 1992 Dream Team Olympic Final soon.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:07 PM on July 13


how is Muller in all that space again?
posted by marienbad at 12:09 PM on July 13


Wow, that was an amazing sprint by Messi...
posted by RedOrGreen at 12:10 PM on July 13


Argentina just can't quite put it together.
posted by eriko at 12:10 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


> Wow, there's hatred, there's deep hatred, and there's this crowd and Argentina.

Guardian: "The majority in the Maracana, supporting Argentina it would seem..."
posted by languagehat at 12:10 PM on July 13


nice pass to an entirely empty area of the pitch there, well done indeed
posted by elizardbits at 12:10 PM on July 13


yeah they have improved from the start but still
posted by marienbad at 12:11 PM on July 13


poor ball in
posted by marienbad at 12:11 PM on July 13


> Argentina just can't quite put it together.

It's only been eleven minutes!
posted by languagehat at 12:11 PM on July 13


Been talking to myself in the other thread, misread marienbad's instructions
posted by infini at 12:12 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


ffs argentina, control and look
posted by marienbad at 12:12 PM on July 13


Eleven minutes! Shouldn't somebody have scored two goals by now?
posted by needled at 12:12 PM on July 13


As I was saying, if goals were that easy to get, this wouldn't be the finals now would it...
posted by infini at 12:12 PM on July 13


yeah but at the last german game there were 15 goals by this point, maybe 16
posted by elizardbits at 12:12 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Oezil having a good start so far.
posted by TwoStride at 12:13 PM on July 13


Go Germany, I support my neighbors to the east.
posted by Pendragon at 12:13 PM on July 13


Fucking hell, why'd they start the game an hour before all the other games?
posted by ardgedee at 12:13 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


don't exaggerate - it was only 11.
posted by 26.2 at 12:14 PM on July 13


The thing is if Argentina had put those last two crosses in the right place, they'd be up 2-0. They're getting great runs in when they get possession (except the last couple of minutes) but they're not getting the finish.
posted by eriko at 12:14 PM on July 13


Yay, everybody's here for the Final!
posted by marienbad at 12:15 PM on July 13


Clearasil missing a sponsorship opportunity here.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:15 PM on July 13


crap corner, good idea badly done
posted by marienbad at 12:15 PM on July 13


What a crazy burst of speed there.
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 12:15 PM on July 13


Both teams are playing very tight defense - going to take some real effort or a defensive screwup to score.
posted by leslies at 12:16 PM on July 13


I feel like anything that happens today is going to be inevitably anticlimactic after the tragic farce that was Brazil's total collapse. I'm halfway rooting for something completely bizarre and unpredictable to happen just to keep the entertainment going.
posted by yasaman at 12:16 PM on July 13


Anyone else Stateside going to any of the International Champions Cup of Champions games later this month?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:16 PM on July 13


Suarez parachutes in dressed as Dracula, bites Putin, flees.
posted by elizardbits at 12:17 PM on July 13


Kramer was out for a minute...
posted by Pendragon at 12:17 PM on July 13


bloody hell, ref!
posted by marienbad at 12:17 PM on July 13


And OUCH - that's going to ring his chimes
posted by leslies at 12:17 PM on July 13


Kramer went down like he was poleaxed. Ouch.
posted by eriko at 12:18 PM on July 13


Robocop: It's in Berkeley. I'm sure I could get Mr. 26.2 to make the trip with me.
posted by 26.2 at 12:18 PM on July 13


Suarez isn't allowed in any football stadiums
posted by marienbad at 12:18 PM on July 13


Kramer still looks out of it.
posted by needled at 12:18 PM on July 13


hence the parachute OBVSLY
posted by elizardbits at 12:18 PM on July 13 [5 favorites]


Argentina is now playing worse than they were in the first ten. They're forcing passes and losing the ball.

Müller may have hurt himself a bit there.
posted by eriko at 12:19 PM on July 13


20 minutes in and no goals? WTF Germany.
posted by homunculus at 12:20 PM on July 13


How did he miss that!!
posted by leslies at 12:20 PM on July 13


Any more biting and he loses 3 million

In the meantime, there's a particularly fine miss right there....
posted by infini at 12:20 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


DAMNIT!
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 12:20 PM on July 13


Oh fucking hell!!
posted by languagehat at 12:20 PM on July 13


GAH!
posted by 26.2 at 12:20 PM on July 13


HUGUAIN YOU HAD ONE JOB!!!!
posted by eriko at 12:20 PM on July 13


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by marienbad at 12:20 PM on July 13


What a terrible whiff.
posted by Justinian at 12:20 PM on July 13


JFC what a terrible clear and thank god a terrible choke on the shot!
posted by TwoStride at 12:20 PM on July 13


Oh Higuain, how could you!
posted by ardgedee at 12:20 PM on July 13


What a miss
posted by fullerine at 12:21 PM on July 13


That was a David Luiz move, there.
posted by one more dead town's last parade at 12:21 PM on July 13


Higuain just Wondoed the ball.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:21 PM on July 13


Oof, Kroos.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:21 PM on July 13


Let's have 'em, Argentina!
posted by marienbad at 12:21 PM on July 13


Dr Zira that is harsh! (but funny!)
posted by leslies at 12:22 PM on July 13


26.2 - The games are all over the place. I'm watching Liverpool at Fenway and Yankee Stadium.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:22 PM on July 13


I'm watching this in the waiting room before boarding my long delayed plane. Go Germany!
posted by ersatz at 12:23 PM on July 13


Whoa...
posted by infini at 12:23 PM on July 13


Is it me, or have the refs been getting in the way of the ball all World Cup ?
posted by Pendragon at 12:23 PM on July 13


Robocop - I might be able to get to Berkeley or Denver. Marriage level negotiation will commence after today's match. (Though he's huge fan, so I think it's in the bag.)
posted by 26.2 at 12:24 PM on July 13


Not just you - one US player actually crashed into a ref.
posted by leslies at 12:24 PM on July 13


Grim determination.
posted by infini at 12:25 PM on July 13


I think the Germans forgot what it looks like when people actually defend in the midfield.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:26 PM on July 13


Argentina need to get a foot on the ball here, the game is slipping away from them
posted by marienbad at 12:26 PM on July 13


Heh. French housemate just yelled "bosch" at the screen.
posted by infini at 12:27 PM on July 13


Well, it would help if when they did get a foot on the ball they didn't kick it out of touch.
posted by eriko at 12:27 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Lawro on the BBC: It was more delia than belia
posted by marienbad at 12:27 PM on July 13


Flying tackle?
posted by infini at 12:27 PM on July 13


This formation is not working, every time down the Argentina left they are getting in.
posted by marienbad at 12:28 PM on July 13


Wtf is the yellow for?
posted by infini at 12:28 PM on July 13


a yellow for basti!
posted by elizardbits at 12:28 PM on July 13


a card??! Wasn't that egregious.
posted by leslies at 12:28 PM on July 13


Die Gelbkarten!
posted by eriko at 12:28 PM on July 13


He put out that card with authority.
posted by 26.2 at 12:28 PM on July 13


Schweinsteiger!
posted by needled at 12:28 PM on July 13


Where's the foam?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:29 PM on July 13


That card was excessive. C'mon.
posted by TwoStride at 12:29 PM on July 13


If Schweinsteiger deserved a yellow for that, then every whistle in this game should have produced a yellow.
posted by one more dead town's last parade at 12:29 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Wtf is the yellow for?

Crimes against sauerkraut?
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 12:29 PM on July 13


woooooooooooooooooooo
posted by desjardins at 12:29 PM on July 13


goaaaaaaaaaaaal!!!!
posted by infini at 12:29 PM on July 13


GOOOOOLlllll....side.
posted by eriko at 12:29 PM on July 13


oh noes offside
posted by elizardbits at 12:29 PM on July 13


goaaaaaaaaal - but nope - offsides
posted by leslies at 12:29 PM on July 13


Offside
posted by 26.2 at 12:29 PM on July 13


nonononononon
posted by marienbad at 12:30 PM on July 13


AHHHHHHHH, YEAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 12:30 PM on July 13


definitely offside.
posted by Justinian at 12:30 PM on July 13


Clearly offside.
posted by Pendragon at 12:30 PM on July 13


GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!
posted by languagehat at 12:30 PM on July 13


Wasn't even close to being onside.
posted by eriko at 12:30 PM on July 13


Linesman all raising the flag like a boss. "Yeah, I know you'll see me eventually, fella. You'll see me."
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:30 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


....SHIT.
posted by languagehat at 12:30 PM on July 13


Ouch. that smarts
posted by 26.2 at 12:30 PM on July 13


Kramer looks really bad - gotta be concussed and needs to be out.
posted by leslies at 12:30 PM on July 13


Kramer off, Schurrle on
posted by marienbad at 12:30 PM on July 13


Lot of clapping for the offside here from a German and Spanish crowd.
posted by ersatz at 12:30 PM on July 13


Wow, Kramer doesn't look good.
posted by Pendragon at 12:30 PM on July 13


Lavezzi will tear you apart.

Ooh, Kramer going off - commentator calls it "genuinely sad from a human perspective".
posted by Pink Frost at 12:31 PM on July 13


Well, that was an efficient way to reveal who in the pub is cheering for whom.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 12:31 PM on July 13


Kramer off -- and he should have come off well before.
posted by eriko at 12:31 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


Could see him going offside before the cross was even struck.
He's had a terrible few minutes.
posted by fullerine at 12:31 PM on July 13


oddly, the twitter "official" hashtag is way behind
posted by desjardins at 12:31 PM on July 13


robocop - when the linesman raises their flag a buzzer on the refs arm goes off to let him know.
posted by marienbad at 12:31 PM on July 13


Kramer looks confused and porridgelike, yikes.
posted by elizardbits at 12:31 PM on July 13


What's going on with Kramer? (I don't understand the commentary) and Where did the goal go?

On preview: got all my questions answered
posted by infini at 12:31 PM on July 13


Yes, that linesman must have felt huge at that moment. Hearing the crowd roar behind him, but holding one flag against them, and win.
posted by Free word order! at 12:32 PM on July 13


Triple salchow and marks for artistic impression - hah!
posted by leslies at 12:33 PM on July 13


Levezzi has just been recruited by Cirque du Soleil.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:33 PM on July 13


Germans collecting yellows like Brazilian goals
posted by elizardbits at 12:33 PM on July 13


Kramer took a shoulder, hard, to the face about 15 minutes ago. The ball was kicked into the net by a player who was offside.
posted by one more dead town's last parade at 12:33 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Ref spreads mustard on another German.
posted by languagehat at 12:33 PM on July 13


infiini: Kramer's head collided with an Argentinian player's head and he was concussed a bit.
posted by marienbad at 12:33 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Kramer took a bad elbow to the head earlier.
posted by leslies at 12:33 PM on July 13


Kramer took a blow to head, infini.
posted by desjardins at 12:33 PM on July 13


I don't know how you implement a real concussion protocol given the limited substitutions in soccer. You can bench a guy for a bit in football or basketball, but if you want to test, you have to either sub off (and lose the guy regardless) or go down a man until you're sure.

About the only way I can see it working is to allow a 10 minute sub -- you sub the guy in, have an official and the doc look, if the clear him, allow him to undo. Not that I can see any way to abuse that!

And that should have been a red.
posted by eriko at 12:33 PM on July 13


OUch... I could see him tearing up a bit but couldn't figure out it was a concussion...

thank you

will try to preview first the next time!
posted by infini at 12:34 PM on July 13


I think this Globo announcer is calling him "Basteiger" - I don't think I've heard him say the "Schwein" part of his name.
posted by needled at 12:34 PM on July 13


What an ugly defensive sequence there by Argentina.
posted by eriko at 12:35 PM on July 13


Messi misse?
posted by infini at 12:35 PM on July 13


I think FIFA should implement a rule where you can sub a player for free if he clearly has a concussion.
posted by Pendragon at 12:35 PM on July 13


Another Argentina attack that can't make the last connection.
posted by eriko at 12:35 PM on July 13


Lawro makes me laugh.
posted by marienbad at 12:36 PM on July 13


Love hearing the crowd yell "Leo" and then slowly fade away...
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 12:36 PM on July 13


Messy defense again, and they almost paid for it.
posted by eriko at 12:36 PM on July 13


I don't give a fuck about the substitution rule when it's put into the context of second-impact syndrome.
posted by 26.2 at 12:36 PM on July 13


Taylor Twellman and his corsage are going to be apoplectic at halftime on ESPN. He's been very vocal on FIFA's lax treatment of concussions.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:37 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


save by Romero
posted by marienbad at 12:37 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Heh, Univision commentators are all about the "teeky tacky" foul calling.
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 12:37 PM on July 13


(Worked for an NFL agent for awhile so the protection of players is near to my cold bitter heart.)
posted by 26.2 at 12:37 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Well, Twellman's MLS career ended because of too many concussions/hits to the head.
posted by TwoStride at 12:38 PM on July 13


You can only see this going one way so far really.
posted by marienbad at 12:38 PM on July 13


a dance off?
posted by elizardbits at 12:39 PM on July 13


About the only way I can see it working -- if the ref sees a head injury, he forces a sub. After 15 minutes, if the player passes a concussion tests, the team can (if it wishes), undo that substitution.
posted by eriko at 12:39 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


JESUS CHRIST HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU NEED ARGENTINA?
posted by eriko at 12:39 PM on July 13


Another opportunity...gone
posted by 26.2 at 12:40 PM on July 13


Great save by Boateng.
posted by needled at 12:40 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Argentina, why you no finish?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:40 PM on July 13


Messi almost became a legend in Argentina!
posted by ersatz at 12:40 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


I take back most of the negative comments I've had about Boateng!
posted by TwoStride at 12:40 PM on July 13


If Argentina made half the shots they should have, it would be 3-0.
posted by eriko at 12:40 PM on July 13


please don't say that, eriko!
posted by marienbad at 12:42 PM on July 13




Romero is my new hero
posted by infini at 12:43 PM on July 13


Augh stop shooting right at the keeper, Germany!
posted by TwoStride at 12:43 PM on July 13


Damn Özil's footwork is amazing.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:43 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


> About the only way I can see it working -- if the ref sees a head injury, he forces a sub. After 15 minutes, if the player passes a concussion tests, the team can (if it wishes), undo that substitution.

Resubbing during game time would slow down a game that's already facing a lot of slowdowns.

How about: A head injury that passes a concussion test is allowed to replace his sub in the next period without counting as a penalty. So, eg, if A is replaced by B in the first half, B can be replaced by A at the start of the second half and it does not count towards the team's three substitutions. If A is pulled out in the second half, he can play again in extra time.
posted by ardgedee at 12:44 PM on July 13


So close, Klose!
posted by needled at 12:44 PM on July 13


So Klose!!!
posted by RedOrGreen at 12:44 PM on July 13


Metafilter: We can overthink an elbow in the ear
posted by infini at 12:45 PM on July 13


You guys were watching the whole world cup to type that, weren't you?
posted by eriko at 12:45 PM on July 13 [4 favorites]


It would be great if they did a pickup game of whoever's left hanging around after the final, and everyone would have to play in those inflatable plastic bubbles.
posted by elizardbits at 12:46 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


LAWL offsides.
posted by Justinian at 12:46 PM on July 13


I love Mats Hummels. He looks like a villain in a Disney film.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:46 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Noooooooooooooooooo post!
posted by TwoStride at 12:46 PM on July 13


Oh god that was close...
posted by languagehat at 12:46 PM on July 13


Yikes!
posted by homunculus at 12:46 PM on July 13


Oh come on, Germany!
posted by ersatz at 12:46 PM on July 13


holy moly.
posted by marienbad at 12:46 PM on July 13


yay goalpost
posted by infini at 12:47 PM on July 13


wow arg got lucky there
posted by desjardins at 12:47 PM on July 13


Apparently, the Evil Field of Sepp Blatter is preventing people from scoring goals.

PEEP!
posted by eriko at 12:47 PM on July 13


peep, peep, PEEP!!
posted by Pendragon at 12:47 PM on July 13


Post for Golden Glove!
posted by ardgedee at 12:47 PM on July 13 [3 favorites]


Alright, everybody get your orange slices.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:47 PM on July 13


Whichever team loses is going to have a lot of regrets.
posted by languagehat at 12:47 PM on July 13


Halftime: Review offside rules.
posted by 26.2 at 12:47 PM on July 13


Medio tiempo. Agony.
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 12:47 PM on July 13


Fim do primeiro tempo!
posted by needled at 12:47 PM on July 13


LAWL offsides.

The header wasn't offside. The offside call was only because Müller was offside when the rebound bounced off him.
posted by one more dead town's last parade at 12:48 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


H/T.

I feel like I am part of some nomadic tribe that wanders from thread to thread to take them over and discuss the football.
posted by marienbad at 12:48 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


I'm really wishin' I'd put the goal post on my fantasy team.
posted by 26.2 at 12:48 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


OMG my nerves are already shot.
posted by TwoStride at 12:50 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Half time came just in time.
posted by infini at 12:51 PM on July 13


Apparently my flight will never leave this airport. Maybe there'll be extra time and I'll still be here. The game is on.
posted by ersatz at 12:52 PM on July 13


Cheesecake anyone?
posted by infini at 12:52 PM on July 13


I think I'm gonna need a beer.
posted by languagehat at 12:52 PM on July 13


I'm drinking radlers to celebrate Germany (and also slow down my consumption in case there's extra time).
posted by TwoStride at 12:54 PM on July 13


So, I've missed my connecting flight but I don't mind that much because I get to see the game.

Or don't mind that much right now at least.

posted by ersatz at 12:54 PM on July 13


Germany to come out and score in the first 5 minutes. Or, better, nearly score and Argentina score on the break. Unfortunately I think the first is more likely then the second.
posted by marienbad at 12:54 PM on July 13


Lets make a bet.
posted by infini at 12:58 PM on July 13


I bet there will be at least 45 more minutes of game.
posted by ardgedee at 12:59 PM on July 13


I bet the ref will blow a whistle.
posted by eriko at 1:00 PM on July 13


robocop - when the linesman raises their flag a buzzer on the refs arm goes off to let him know.

I didn't know that, that's cool!

I think I'm gonna need a beer.

I'm cursing that I forgot to buy beer yesterday and one of the fun things about Germany is that all the shops, like aaaalllll the shops, are shut all day on Sunday. So no beer for me. Boo.
posted by shelleycat at 1:00 PM on July 13


I think languagehat saw the Cerveja Brahma ad that came on Globo.
posted by needled at 1:00 PM on July 13


I bet someone will fall down and make a big fuss about it.
posted by elizardbits at 1:00 PM on July 13


For some reason, the Officially Licensed FIFA World Cup 2014 miniball I got for my son has a Canadian flag on it.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:01 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Oh, capaldi Dr who trailer for the half time entertainment on bbc1.
posted by biffa at 1:01 PM on July 13


What's with the Indian dress people?
posted by infini at 1:01 PM on July 13


Best stupidest comment from Taylor Twellman this tournament from an earlier US game (and there are many options): "Well, both teams are going to have to play 90 minutes."
posted by TwoStride at 1:02 PM on July 13


I bet Schurrle will be the blondest dude on the pitch.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:02 PM on July 13


Has an England player died by the way, the BBC commentators look like they are waiting on a funeral.
posted by biffa at 1:02 PM on July 13


Beckham!
posted by infini at 1:02 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Truly a gift for stating the obvious.
posted by leslies at 1:03 PM on July 13


not as I know of, biffa, just dressed up for the final maybe?
posted by marienbad at 1:03 PM on July 13


Lavezzi is out??
posted by languagehat at 1:04 PM on July 13


Nah, they just had him on, he's still alive.
posted by biffa at 1:04 PM on July 13


Aguero? More like Aguermeh.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:04 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Interesting. Watch Aguero suddenly find his form.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:04 PM on July 13


Aguero? That's a bit of a gamble.
posted by eriko at 1:04 PM on July 13


"Sua majestade, Edson Arantes do Nascimento, Rei Pele!" (Take that, Argentina!)
posted by needled at 1:04 PM on July 13


oh man, aguerro on for lavazzi
posted by marienbad at 1:04 PM on July 13


People have been talking about expanding to 4 subs for a couple years now, ever since the bench was expanded to 7 players (obviously not a factor at the WC). I think it'll probably happen in the next six or seven years, maybe starting as one extra sub available only in extra time.

It's been a good game so far, about the standard I would expect. If it opens up just a little more in the second half, this could become a classic.
posted by Errant at 1:05 PM on July 13


Higuian offside again!
posted by eriko at 1:05 PM on July 13


Sepp Blatter's in the house so they're contractually obligated to put on their best before paying obeisance lest they offend his delicate sensibilities and permanently end England's prospects for hosting another World Cup.
posted by ardgedee at 1:05 PM on July 13


After watching two Brazilian matches in a row, it is almost stirring to see two functional defenses on the pitch.
posted by KathrynT at 1:05 PM on July 13 [4 favorites]


I prefer the other linesman who looks like he's an agent of Skynet.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:06 PM on July 13


MESSI MISSES!

WHAT DARK MAGIC IS THIS?
posted by eriko at 1:06 PM on July 13


Messi misses! Goddammit, people!
posted by languagehat at 1:06 PM on July 13


nononononononoonno not again
posted by marienbad at 1:06 PM on July 13


Thank god I have a beer.
posted by languagehat at 1:06 PM on July 13


Thought Lavazzi was playing OK, he had some good runs there. Really not liking the idea of three City players winning the World Cup.
posted by Pink Frost at 1:07 PM on July 13


for fuck's sake this had better not go to penalties.
posted by ardgedee at 1:07 PM on July 13


Messi feeling his hamstring? please no
posted by marienbad at 1:07 PM on July 13


Anyone see the resemblance between Romero and the Hulk?
posted by infini at 1:08 PM on July 13


Looks like I picked the wrong World Cup to stop sniffing glue.
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 1:08 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Sepp Blatter's in the house so they're contractually obligated to put on their best before paying obeisance lest they offend his delicate sensibilities and permanently end England's prospects for hosting another World Cup.

Easier to carry wads of cash in cargo pants, though. Maybe they have some gold pressed latinum under their formal wear?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:08 PM on July 13


Ahh, mandatory jesus shot.
posted by eriko at 1:08 PM on July 13


Sunsets halo? Symbolic
posted by infini at 1:08 PM on July 13


awesome shot of christ the redeemer and the setting sun.
posted by marienbad at 1:09 PM on July 13


Big Stone Jesus says, "Continue Play!"
posted by ardgedee at 1:09 PM on July 13


Too much jesus
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:09 PM on July 13


WE ALREADY DID THE MANDATORY JESUS SHOT!
posted by eriko at 1:10 PM on July 13


Jesus again! Why?
posted by languagehat at 1:10 PM on July 13


Masch, look - he was way offside
posted by marienbad at 1:10 PM on July 13


Commentators waxing poetic about the Cristo Redentor on Corcovado.
posted by needled at 1:10 PM on July 13


He's got the whole world sun in his hands...
posted by 26.2 at 1:10 PM on July 13


WHAT DARK MAGIC IS THIS?

Some of the fans appeared to be practicing some kind of finger-wiggling voodoo earlier, perhaps it backfired and cursed the game.
posted by homunculus at 1:10 PM on July 13


ESPN: "It's a nice shot but the game is goin' on!"
posted by languagehat at 1:10 PM on July 13


" Once I created a sun this big"
posted by biffa at 1:11 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


"And here's our commentator, Christ the Redeemer, to show how far Argentina scuffed that last shot! Christ?"

"OH, ABOUT THIS FAR, MACCA."
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:11 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Hilarious hearing the commentators try to find something to say about the Jesus shots.
posted by TwoStride at 1:11 PM on July 13


are we all watching ABC? or is this just a coincidence?
posted by desjardins at 1:11 PM on July 13


Rude jokes in my timeline about ARG missing like they do interest payments on debt.
posted by infini at 1:11 PM on July 13


I suspect the work of a Bavarian witch.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:11 PM on July 13


Sepp Blatter's in the house so they're contractually obligated to put on their best before paying obeisance lest they offend his delicate sensibilities and permanently end England's prospects for hosting another World Cup.

England are screwed for the foreseeable future, partly due to their print media asking uncomfortable questions and being critical of corruption in some key FIFA member states.
posted by Pink Frost at 1:11 PM on July 13


He's grabbing his sun to throw at David Luiz.
posted by 26.2 at 1:12 PM on July 13


boateng with a great tackle
posted by marienbad at 1:12 PM on July 13


nvm, ABC licensed ESPN's broadcast.
posted by desjardins at 1:12 PM on July 13


Jesus Post saves.
posted by homunculus at 1:12 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


BBC, during the third extended shot of Christ the Redeemer in five minutes: "It just doesn't look real, doesn't it? That's how amazing it is."

Okay, I'm convinced. Edutainment public television series about modern art and architecture should be written and read by sports announcers rather than architects and art critics.
posted by ardgedee at 1:12 PM on July 13


One set of cameras, global commentary in individual languages. My channel has 4 Finns in high state of excitement, very rare.
posted by infini at 1:13 PM on July 13


the change to 4-3-3 has worked wonders for argentina
posted by marienbad at 1:13 PM on July 13


desjardins: We're all watching the same FIFA feed. It's like Highlander: There can be only one. It's just the network commentators that differ.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:13 PM on July 13


All the TV shows take the same feed from the Brazilian provider I think. I'm on BBC.
posted by biffa at 1:13 PM on July 13


Should have been a free kick.
posted by Pendragon at 1:13 PM on July 13


till now
posted by marienbad at 1:14 PM on July 13


Hi everyone! Thanks for the redirect from the other thread; I'm really enjoying watching football with MeFi. Also I just got here, is it 5-0? No? Oh thank Christ.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:14 PM on July 13


> nvm, ABC licensed ESPN's broadcast.

The entire world (including the jumbotrons in the stadium right now) are getting exactly the same video feed. The only thing every broadcaster provides is their own announcing.
posted by ardgedee at 1:14 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Ok, if Schweinsteiger got carded for his challenge, then Garay should've gotten a card there, too.
posted by TwoStride at 1:14 PM on July 13


Ref playing advantage, I think, Pendragon.
posted by Pink Frost at 1:15 PM on July 13


sssh, kid, don't mention Him.
posted by infini at 1:15 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Like, uh, what everybody else has pointed out.
posted by ardgedee at 1:15 PM on July 13


ABC didn't license from ESPN, both are owned by Disney.
posted by eriko at 1:15 PM on July 13


Oof fuck!
posted by infini at 1:16 PM on July 13


Some serious thews in the face, there.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:16 PM on July 13


How the fuck was that a free kick to Germany? ridiculous!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:16 PM on July 13


May not be a foul but ouch!
posted by leslies at 1:16 PM on July 13


If that wasn't a goalkeeper's punch but a defender's header that would've been a penalty
posted by fullerine at 1:17 PM on July 13


Another blow to the head. Shit.
posted by languagehat at 1:17 PM on July 13


Higuaín has an argument about for a card -- that's on the edge of reckless play.

He's also probably concussed.
posted by eriko at 1:17 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Your clock is cleaned sir.
posted by 26.2 at 1:17 PM on July 13


Because he viciously attacked Neuer's knee with his face
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:18 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


I had sympathy pains when he was holding his neck as he was walking off the field
posted by desjardins at 1:18 PM on July 13


Romero!
posted by infini at 1:18 PM on July 13


How the fuck was that a free kick to Germany? ridiculous!

Goalies in their box have to truly do something egregious to get called for a foul. I don't agree with that, but that's the way it is around the world.
posted by eriko at 1:18 PM on July 13


Looking at it from different angles that was a brutal hit.
posted by 26.2 at 1:18 PM on July 13


But the keeper wasn't in his box.
posted by Pendragon at 1:19 PM on July 13


It's like Highlander: There can be only one.

The game would be much more exciting if everyone had a sword.
posted by homunculus at 1:19 PM on July 13


He did get the ball first. Should have just been a throw.
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:19 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Screencap of the sunset
posted by infini at 1:20 PM on July 13


mr. needled and i are in the same house and we're not even watching the same broadcast - i'm watching on Globo and he's watching the game on BBC.
posted by needled at 1:20 PM on July 13


But the keeper wasn't in his box.

He was -- otherwise, that punch becomes a handball.
posted by eriko at 1:20 PM on July 13


Another terrible shot on goal!
posted by languagehat at 1:21 PM on July 13


Now that was holding.
posted by eriko at 1:22 PM on July 13


This game is simultaneously supremely frustrating and wildly exciting.
posted by languagehat at 1:22 PM on July 13 [3 favorites]


Well said.
posted by ardgedee at 1:22 PM on July 13


How do you say "backpass" in German?
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:22 PM on July 13


yeah this is pretty exciting for a scoreless game.
posted by desjardins at 1:23 PM on July 13


I am mesmerized.
posted by infini at 1:23 PM on July 13


Needs more Jesus. There has been no Jesus in at least 5 minutes.
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:23 PM on July 13


>"Rückpass"
posted by Small Dollar at 1:24 PM on July 13


ruckpass surely
posted by elizardbits at 1:24 PM on July 13


That was a shitty play, Aguero.
posted by eriko at 1:24 PM on July 13


German goalie reminds me of a younger, more cherubic John Malkovich.
posted by Atrahasis at 1:24 PM on July 13


Yellows for everyone!
posted by 26.2 at 1:24 PM on July 13


Another yellow!
posted by languagehat at 1:24 PM on July 13


Must be card o'clock.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:24 PM on July 13


A flurry of yellow cards for Argentina!
posted by needled at 1:24 PM on July 13


Put that goddamn yellow card away, ref.
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 1:24 PM on July 13


Two different colored cleats? How did I miss that?
posted by 26.2 at 1:25 PM on July 13


It's around this part of the game where I start imagining the players are all Pokemon.

"Messi! Messi! Messi!"
"Ozil!"
"Higuain! Higuain!"
"Klose! Klose! Kloooooooose!"
"Boateng! Boateng!"
"SCHWEEEEIINSTEIIIGER!"
posted by ardgedee at 1:25 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


Please just no extra time. I can't take extra time. Hurry up and score, Germany.
posted by yasaman at 1:25 PM on July 13


Game is getting a bit chippy.
posted by eriko at 1:25 PM on July 13


This whole pink and blue cleat situation has been an abomination and we should never speak of it again.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:26 PM on July 13 [3 favorites]


El chiquito Romero!!
posted by languagehat at 1:26 PM on July 13


I am reminded of mascerano talking himself off the pitch for Liverpool once he got wound up.
posted by biffa at 1:26 PM on July 13


when they get in each other's face and trashtalk each other, what language are they speaking?
posted by desjardins at 1:26 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


when they get in each other's face and trashtalk each other, what language are they speaking?

The international language of love?
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 1:27 PM on July 13 [8 favorites]


Put that goddamn yellow card away, ref.

You must have hated the 2010 final, then.
posted by eriko at 1:28 PM on July 13


I imagine that English works well as the international language of trashtalk and insults...
posted by TwoStride at 1:28 PM on July 13


Kobaïan
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:28 PM on July 13


Good God Neuer looks like a Marvel superhero when he punches the ball away.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:28 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Alexi Lallas said it doesn't matter, everyone knows what you're talking about when you're casting aspersions and making fellatio references.
posted by yasaman at 1:28 PM on July 13


Probably screaming anything that sounds like obscenities is sufficient to get the point across. Precise communication isn't necessary.
posted by ardgedee at 1:29 PM on July 13


Well, that was a lame cross.

MANDATORY CUP SHOT!
posted by eriko at 1:29 PM on July 13


I find that Italian is the best language for cursing. German is sort of useless for cursing.
posted by 26.2 at 1:29 PM on July 13


How to aim for nothing...
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:29 PM on July 13


Romeo...
posted by infini at 1:29 PM on July 13


Guardian: Demichelis wins the header and sends the ball into the arms of Romero, who then engages Schurrle in a Hegelian dialectic.
posted by Pink Frost at 1:29 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


20 minutes left for anything to happen.
posted by ardgedee at 1:30 PM on July 13


Guardian: "Demichelis wins the header and sends the ball into the arms of Romero, who then engages Schurrle in a Hegelian dialectic."
posted by languagehat at 1:30 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Messi off?
posted by marienbad at 1:30 PM on July 13


Dammit, Pink Frost!
posted by languagehat at 1:30 PM on July 13


What the hell was that?
posted by eriko at 1:31 PM on July 13


That's the last time I waste time on italics.
posted by languagehat at 1:31 PM on July 13 [4 favorites]



The international language of love?


I wish it were possible for me to share the comments in my living room - housemates are flamboyant and Frenchmen.
posted by infini at 1:31 PM on July 13


They showed some guy yawning in the stands.
posted by desjardins at 1:31 PM on July 13


MetaFilter: That's the last time I waste time on italics.
posted by one more dead town's last parade at 1:32 PM on July 13


This is going to be one of those each side gets 10 shots at the end of the game game.
posted by infini at 1:32 PM on July 13


I'm tempted to hit the big-box sports supply store tomorrow and see if they have any Fuleco trinkets in the clearance bins.
posted by ardgedee at 1:33 PM on July 13


I really wish ESPN would stop harping that Messi isn't Maradona.
posted by 26.2 at 1:34 PM on July 13


wtf interrupted by severe storm warning????
posted by RedOrGreen at 1:34 PM on July 13


Maybe you can pick up some Seleção shirts on clearance, too.
posted by needled at 1:34 PM on July 13


Some beautiful passing between Zabaleta and Messi but Messi biffs the shot again, so it doesn't matter.
posted by ardgedee at 1:34 PM on July 13


> I really wish ESPN would stop harping that Messi isn't Maradona.

That's going to be the universal judgment if they lose this game. If they win, all is forgiven. Meanwhile, I'm watching Univision.
posted by languagehat at 1:35 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


I think Loew has worn that exact same shirt since the cup started. Possibly longer.
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:35 PM on July 13


> some Seleção shirts on clearance

70% off, includes free head-sized paper bag and roll of duct tape to cover the player name and number.
posted by ardgedee at 1:35 PM on July 13




Every time I see Höwedes I think Höwedes Döwedes
posted by eriko at 1:37 PM on July 13


Higuain needs a hug.


Like everybody.
posted by infini at 1:37 PM on July 13


Higuain out, Palacio in.
posted by needled at 1:37 PM on July 13


Aguerro has been good since he came on.

Sabella rolls again
posted by marienbad at 1:37 PM on July 13


oh shit palacio is a padawan
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:37 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Palacio's hair is so ridic
posted by elizardbits at 1:37 PM on July 13


Palacio has his hair done at the Nick Bendtner Barber College.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:38 PM on July 13


That ponytail is the low point of this world cup.
posted by biffa at 1:38 PM on July 13


Footwork.
posted by infini at 1:39 PM on July 13


Augh how many German players in front of the goal and no one gets a toe in?
posted by TwoStride at 1:40 PM on July 13


10 minutes left for anything to happen.
posted by ardgedee at 1:40 PM on July 13


Oh, that post...
posted by infini at 1:40 PM on July 13


Agh I missed palacio coming in and now I will spend the entire time trying to catch a glimpse of his hair.
posted by tofu_crouton at 1:40 PM on July 13


Germany surely must score soon
posted by marienbad at 1:40 PM on July 13


Best thing about Palacio hair - the tail is off-center. The centered rat tail would be too common.
posted by 26.2 at 1:41 PM on July 13


Wow. Yet another chance wasted.
posted by eriko at 1:41 PM on July 13


There must be a three degree slant to the pitch.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:41 PM on July 13


Another terrible shot on goal!
posted by languagehat at 1:41 PM on July 13


what is that background noise that sounds like a truck backing up? it's driving me nuts.
posted by desjardins at 1:41 PM on July 13


Höwedes in good conscience do you dive like that at this point in a World Cup Final?
posted by wensink at 1:41 PM on July 13


I'm looking forward to watching Özil hit up Alexis Sanchez with those opportunities all next season at Arsenal.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:42 PM on July 13


Ah, a dive. I'd missed that.
posted by 26.2 at 1:42 PM on July 13


Jesu is purple now?
posted by infini at 1:42 PM on July 13


Wow, how many streakers does that make this world cup ?
posted by Pendragon at 1:42 PM on July 13


Pitch invasion from my commentary, desjardins
posted by romakimmy at 1:42 PM on July 13


Finally, moar Jesus!
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:42 PM on July 13


Well, now I can't unhear it, desjardins. That is annoying.
posted by yasaman at 1:43 PM on July 13


Aguero fall down go boom.
posted by eriko at 1:43 PM on July 13


sorry, yasaman!
posted by desjardins at 1:43 PM on July 13


The guardian commentator keeps talking about a brouhaha in his trousers and clearly that does not mean what I think it means
posted by tofu_crouton at 1:43 PM on July 13


All the Jesus shots have to be a reference to 'The hand of God'.
posted by night_train at 1:44 PM on July 13


T-5 and counting.
posted by eriko at 1:44 PM on July 13


So far the Man of The Match has to be Christ the Redeemer.
posted by infini at 1:44 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Perez off, Gago on.
posted by eriko at 1:45 PM on July 13


That's because the Guardian commentator fielded a complaint that he was using the word "stramash" too much...
posted by TwoStride at 1:45 PM on July 13


Am I the only person who thinks of Gilles de Rais from Fate/Zero whenever they see Özil?

It's just me? Carry on, then.
posted by needled at 1:45 PM on July 13


Historically speaking we're due a terrible dive and a Germany penalty about now.
posted by fullerine at 1:45 PM on July 13


Götze on. Surely the game will open up now.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:47 PM on July 13


It seems crazy that you have to wait for the ref to notice to put on a sub, why not have a signal to the ref's headset?
posted by biffa at 1:47 PM on July 13


Klose, a football legend.
posted by Pendragon at 1:47 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Goodbye Klose, well done mate
posted by marienbad at 1:47 PM on July 13


Awwww, Klose.

Great handslap with the ref as he goes off.
posted by TwoStride at 1:47 PM on July 13


Klose off, Götze on.
posted by eriko at 1:47 PM on July 13


Klose!!!! What a career!
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:47 PM on July 13


Klose call
posted by infini at 1:47 PM on July 13


Applause for Klose.
posted by eriko at 1:47 PM on July 13


If it goes to ET then Germany will be massive favourites surely
posted by marienbad at 1:48 PM on July 13


C'mon Göatse!
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:48 PM on July 13 [4 favorites]


I just want someone to wigsnatch that silly thing off the back of his head.
posted by elizardbits at 1:49 PM on July 13 [4 favorites]


Argentina's coach looks like Bilbo Baggins
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:49 PM on July 13


Three More.
posted by eriko at 1:49 PM on July 13


Three minutes. Come on,, Argentina!
posted by languagehat at 1:50 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Go Germany!
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:50 PM on July 13


Wonderful standing ovation for Klose in what is surely his last World Cup game. Great career, and by all accounts, a genuinely good and hard-working man. That was a nice moment.
posted by Errant at 1:51 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


This is why they started an hour early. Europe needs to go to work on Monday morning.
posted by infini at 1:51 PM on July 13


GO REF!
posted by eriko at 1:52 PM on July 13


Forza Cristo Redondo!
posted by Pink Frost at 1:52 PM on July 13


Peep Peep PEEP!
posted by eriko at 1:52 PM on July 13


Extra time. Goddammit.
posted by languagehat at 1:53 PM on July 13


why is ET better for Germany?
posted by desjardins at 1:53 PM on July 13


My poor nerves! Time for a bathroom break and then to grab a restorative radler from the fridge.
posted by TwoStride at 1:53 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


ARG with two really, really bad turnovers at midfield there in stoppage time.
posted by wensink at 1:53 PM on July 13


Must be better conditioned teams, not so much of the North Korean-style mass field massage exercises this break.
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 1:54 PM on July 13


Well this gives me and my friend more time to discuss if the manager of Argentina really looks like Bilbo or if Bilbo is more or less rotund (thanks for nothing Hairy Lobster).
posted by tofu_crouton at 1:54 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Hah! I'm drinking Radlers too!
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:54 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Will not miss that chickenfat commercial.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:55 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


The Chicken Fat song commercial - did y'all do the Chicken Fat song in gym class as kids? My husband has never heard it before.
posted by 26.2 at 1:55 PM on July 13


I'm drinking Paulaner. I'll say this for the Germans: they make a good beer.
posted by languagehat at 1:55 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


I see the BBC is offering live streaming player cams on Messi and on Muller. How dedicated to boredom would you have to be to watch the WC final that way?
posted by biffa at 1:56 PM on July 13


Jesu needs to turn and grab the arena now.
posted by 26.2 at 1:56 PM on July 13


The German manager is cute. Consensus in my household.
posted by infini at 1:56 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


My Radler is actually Paulaner based!
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:57 PM on July 13


> why is ET better for Germany?

Germany last played Tuesday, Argentina last played Wednesday. For that and the natures of each match, Germany started this game better-rested than Argentina. Presumably they'll be able to run longer and keep their wits about them for longer.
posted by ardgedee at 1:57 PM on July 13


I'm also drinking Radlers.
posted by Pendragon at 1:57 PM on July 13


Time for an extra half hour in the ball pit.
posted by Small Dollar at 1:57 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


On such theories are bets made and millions lost.
posted by infini at 1:57 PM on July 13


Well, aside from the Lineker gag ("football is a game in which 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and in the end the Germans win"), Germany's pretty well known for their conditioning. They also had a walk of a second half in their last game, compared with Argentina's ET and penalties, and they have an extra day of rest. I think the needle probably moves in their direction.
posted by Errant at 1:57 PM on July 13


I am drinking St Peter's Best Bitter, to remind myself England can produce something worthwhile during the world cup.
posted by biffa at 1:58 PM on July 13


why is ET better for Germany?

They should have more energy, because they only played 90 minutes against Brazil, and that game was a day earlier than Argentina-Netherlands. [On preview, what Errant and ardegee said].
posted by Pink Frost at 1:58 PM on July 13


Cannot...take...the inevitable German win.
posted by wensink at 1:58 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


What is the head referree wearing on his arms under his shirt? It looks like he's wearing a child's Hulk costume under there.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:59 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


I see the BBC is offering live streaming player cams on Messi and on Muller. How dedicated to boredom would you have to be to watch the WC final that way?
At least they can use the same camera, just train it on the one who is moving.
posted by fullerine at 1:59 PM on July 13


Radlers for everyone! Even for stone Jesus!
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:59 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


HAY GUYS DID U KNOW THERE'S A BIG STATION OF JESUS IN BRAZIL!
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 1:59 PM on July 13


MY HEART!!!
posted by languagehat at 1:59 PM on July 13


OMG
posted by Hairy Lobster at 1:59 PM on July 13


Time for genius to wake Messi's tired legs, or alternately for Germany to win. Or for something else to happen. I don't know. Maybe Jesus will come on.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:59 PM on July 13


wow that Romero save was the most exciting moment of the entire thing so far
posted by desjardins at 1:59 PM on July 13


Aguero stood up Messi like he was someone he just met on okcupid.com.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:01 PM on July 13


Messi! Everyone else is napping...
posted by RedOrGreen at 2:01 PM on July 13


I definitely napped through the last twenty minutes.
posted by Small Dollar at 2:02 PM on July 13


Katallus just got published on the Guardian's commentary. What, we're not good enough for him?
posted by Pink Frost at 2:02 PM on July 13


He's a genius. Romero, not Katallus, on edit. ;p
posted by infini at 2:02 PM on July 13


why is ET better for Germany?
posted by desjardins

Argentina played 120 minutes and penalties a day after germany played an easy 90 minutes
posted by marienbad at 2:02 PM on July 13


I just finished a Highlander IPA when extra time started. Will be sticking with water for a while, I guess.
posted by ardgedee at 2:03 PM on July 13


Dammit everyone stop watching the iPlayer, my feed is choking.
posted by shelleycat at 2:03 PM on July 13


> Katallus just got published on the Guardian's commentary. What, we're not good enough for him?

He's there somewhat frequently. But yes, the least he could do is give us a shout out, you'd think.
posted by ardgedee at 2:04 PM on July 13


Sticking with water as I have to go back to writing SQL queries once the game is over.
posted by needled at 2:04 PM on July 13


Dammit everyone stop watching the iPlayer, my feed is choking.

I have to, the CBC feed doesn't even load.
posted by Sys Rq at 2:04 PM on July 13


not sure how much more of this I can watch
posted by marienbad at 2:04 PM on July 13


Thumbs down on Goetze's neckbeard in this viewing household.
posted by TwoStride at 2:04 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


Ah, the universal pose of tense waiting: one hand crossed over the chest, the other up at the chin or mouth.
posted by yasaman at 2:04 PM on July 13


Remember in the olden days when counterattacks were successful and stuff?
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:05 PM on July 13


Oh Palacio.
posted by desjardins at 2:05 PM on July 13


Oh my heart
posted by marienbad at 2:05 PM on July 13


Wow, another golden opportunity missed.
posted by eriko at 2:05 PM on July 13


Finish!
posted by 26.2 at 2:05 PM on July 13


Oof heart attack moment.
posted by needled at 2:05 PM on July 13


Arch! My heart almost stopsed!
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:05 PM on July 13


He looks nothing like Bilbo.
posted by infini at 2:05 PM on July 13


Another brief moment of excitement.
posted by languagehat at 2:06 PM on July 13


Oh the rats tail! Such a chance!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:06 PM on July 13


Well, Germany started the extra time with a mad running game that was exciting and fun, and then realized that might be interesting and decided to put the clamps on again. Bah.

At least Argentina is trying to liven things up with their signature absurdist goal shots.
posted by ardgedee at 2:06 PM on July 13


Argentina will pay for all these misses
posted by marienbad at 2:06 PM on July 13


He totally looks like older Bilbo (LOTR not Hobbit)
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:08 PM on July 13


oh man i hope the golden boot ends up going to rodriguez
posted by elizardbits at 2:08 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Aguero has best hair.
posted by desjardins at 2:08 PM on July 13


Thumbs down on Goetze's neckbeard in this viewing household.
Any ruling on Özil's protuberant eyes?
posted by evidenceofabsence at 2:09 PM on July 13


Mueller is on my fantasy team, but my household is Colombian, so no matter which way the golden boot goes, there will be sadness.
posted by tofu_crouton at 2:10 PM on July 13


Added kick in the ass?
posted by RedOrGreen at 2:10 PM on July 13


You know me well, Purposeful. I am wanting argentina to win myself but it is looking less and less likely unfortunately
posted by marienbad at 2:10 PM on July 13


mascherano has injured schweini's bum, merkel vows vengeance
posted by elizardbits at 2:10 PM on July 13


No but I hear the ref's ass looks real good in those navy blue tailored shorts.
posted by infini at 2:10 PM on July 13


Any ruling on Özil's protuberant eyes?

Refer to my earlier comment on his resemblance to a certain anime character.
posted by needled at 2:10 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


Well, Oezil can't exactly do anything about his eyes, but someone could get Goetze a razor.
posted by TwoStride at 2:11 PM on July 13




As seen on Twitter: What do Argentina and a drunk frat boy have in common? Neither can finish.
posted by desjardins at 2:12 PM on July 13


Well now we're getting a tornado warning. I hope they don't score in the meantime. That'd be bloody typical...
posted by RedOrGreen at 2:12 PM on July 13


This game has now been going so long Jogi Löw has just been awarded tenure at the University of Phoenix.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:12 PM on July 13


Penalties anyone?
posted by marienbad at 2:13 PM on July 13


(I actually kind of like his eyes.)
posted by evidenceofabsence at 2:13 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


my prediction for pks is that i will just not care
posted by elizardbits at 2:14 PM on July 13


Peep!
posted by eriko at 2:14 PM on July 13


Universal Comment for World Cup 2014: "Seriously, what is up with that guy's hair?"
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:14 PM on July 13


Well do I know, marienbad. It was a comedic reference to this.

Edit: Well, nevermind. It appears some mod doesn't know the reference either. Thanks, person of no humor!
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 2:14 PM on July 13


Jeez, Argentina, if they had been more decisive and quiker and thought a bit in the final third, they could have got the ball through and a man on goal.
posted by marienbad at 2:14 PM on July 13


Nice second kick at Lahm's ankle. Grrrr.
posted by TwoStride at 2:14 PM on July 13


That truck-backing-up noise is driving me nuts. I don't understand the earlier comment about it being a "pitch invasion."
posted by desjardins at 2:14 PM on July 13


> my prediction for pks is that i will just not care

You say that now, but you know you will.
posted by languagehat at 2:15 PM on July 13


I have the strongest sense of deja vu

Some earlier final, with W. Germany... ?
posted by infini at 2:15 PM on July 13


And he'll tease you
He'll unease you
All the better just to tackle ya
he's precocious, and he knows just
What it takes to make a goalie blush
All the fans think he's so sly
he's got Mesut Oezil eyes
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:15 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


Ugh come on it'll be a shame to end on penalties.
posted by RedOrGreen at 2:15 PM on July 13


Lahm is an exceptionally sweaty man.
posted by 26.2 at 2:15 PM on July 13


Neuer with what looks to be a vacuum tube in his hand.
posted by wensink at 2:15 PM on July 13


That was a very disturbing view of Boateng's groin massage.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:16 PM on July 13 [3 favorites]


This is definitely the kind of game where you wish they'd do a second half hour of ET, just to be sure.
posted by Errant at 2:16 PM on July 13


Apparently the first instance of gratuitous Jesus footage was a cutaway from a nude streaker.
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:16 PM on July 13 [3 favorites]


Someone please score I need to leave for work in five minutes
posted by Pink Frost at 2:17 PM on July 13


They should really just play until the players collapse in an increasingly ominous deathmatch.
posted by elizardbits at 2:18 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Someone please score I need to leave for work in five minutes

It's not sudden-death.
posted by one more dead town's last parade at 2:18 PM on July 13


Yeah I know, but I figure there'll only be one goal in it.
posted by Pink Frost at 2:19 PM on July 13


Hairy Lobster, apparently LeBron James captured it on his Instagram.
posted by Small Dollar at 2:19 PM on July 13


Ugh every free kick and corner has been terrible.
posted by TwoStride at 2:19 PM on July 13


I figure there'll only be one goal in it.

I figure you need to leave for work in between 15 and 30 minutes.
posted by one more dead town's last parade at 2:19 PM on July 13


Have there really been no good corners or free kicks all game?
posted by marienbad at 2:20 PM on July 13


Germany's definitely got the legs on Argentina right now.
posted by eriko at 2:20 PM on July 13


Wow, late tackles in stereo.
posted by biffa at 2:20 PM on July 13


They should really just play until the players collapse in an increasingly ominous deathmatch.
It's Germany, the crowd would die first.
posted by fullerine at 2:20 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Looks like elizardbits is going to get wish
posted by infini at 2:20 PM on July 13


Leave Schweini alone already.
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:21 PM on July 13


whoa he's bleeding
posted by elizardbits at 2:21 PM on July 13


First blood
posted by infini at 2:21 PM on July 13


Schweinsteiger is punching bag of the match.
posted by ardgedee at 2:21 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


GET THE STAPLER!
posted by eriko at 2:21 PM on July 13 [3 favorites]


Holy crap/
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:21 PM on July 13


Schweinsteiger is down!
posted by needled at 2:21 PM on July 13


Jeez Aguero trim your damn fingernails.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:21 PM on July 13


Oof, Schweinsteiger bleeding like a stuck pig.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:21 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


He wasn't even naked. Put some effort in to it, Streaker Man.
posted by 26.2 at 2:22 PM on July 13


That's because I should know better than to comment when distracted by the game and my toddler who refuses to stay asleep tonight, desjardins. My addlepated brain conflated the pitch invasion furor with whatever the hell that noise is. I'll go back to keeping quiet now...
posted by romakimmy at 2:22 PM on July 13


Damn that should have been a second yellow for Aguero.
posted by ardgedee at 2:22 PM on July 13


Owwwwww! Concussion for sure.
posted by RedOrGreen at 2:22 PM on July 13


I'm having so many sympathy pains.
posted by desjardins at 2:22 PM on July 13


Oof.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 2:22 PM on July 13


The problem is that both these teams have historically been World Cup champions numerous times. Way too much invested here.
posted by infini at 2:22 PM on July 13


I figure you need to leave for work in between 15 and 30 minutes.

Heh. Very true. One goal, if we're lucky, I should have said. And I'm on the bus not driving, so I don't really have the choice to wait :(. Enjoy the shootout, people.
posted by Pink Frost at 2:22 PM on July 13


Bad Gago reflex
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:23 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Did they staple Schweinsteiger's face?
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:23 PM on July 13


Face staples!
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:24 PM on July 13


I guess they used glue.
posted by Pendragon at 2:24 PM on July 13


If I'm big Jesus, don't I reward the country with the most Catholics? (ARG: 31.8 million, GER: 24.3 million)
posted by wensink at 2:24 PM on July 13


GOAL!
posted by eriko at 2:24 PM on July 13


OMG GOTZE
posted by elizardbits at 2:24 PM on July 13


goal.
posted by infini at 2:24 PM on July 13


Auf, Goatse!
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:24 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


GOAL!!!
posted by Pendragon at 2:24 PM on July 13


OK I guess you can leave for work now.
posted by desjardins at 2:24 PM on July 13


Heartbreaker goal too.
posted by eriko at 2:24 PM on July 13


NOICE
posted by Justinian at 2:24 PM on July 13


fuck
posted by languagehat at 2:25 PM on July 13


There it is.
posted by RedOrGreen at 2:25 PM on July 13


SUPER MARIO!!!!!
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:25 PM on July 13


bugger
posted by fullerine at 2:25 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Hey, big Jesus? You're a big jerk.
posted by wensink at 2:25 PM on July 13


sad trombone
posted by 26.2 at 2:25 PM on July 13


OMG finally. GOOOOAAAALLLL.
posted by yasaman at 2:25 PM on July 13


He's shy
posted by infini at 2:25 PM on July 13


See I told you Götze would open it up!
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:25 PM on July 13 [5 favorites]


his beautifully manicured eyebrows have proved lucky indeed
posted by elizardbits at 2:25 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Damn. Game over
posted by marienbad at 2:25 PM on July 13


Götze unmarked. Argentina just doesn't have anything left.
posted by eriko at 2:25 PM on July 13


Beautiful goal too. Wow!
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:25 PM on July 13


GOOOOOOOOOOL DA ALEMANHA!!!
posted by needled at 2:26 PM on July 13


Awesome goal.
posted by Anything at 2:26 PM on July 13


Wow. Great goal, that will be a fitting winner.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:26 PM on July 13


Well, poop.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 2:26 PM on July 13


Fuck me running. Goddamnit.
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 2:26 PM on July 13


Alles istn't vorbei
posted by Sys Rq at 2:26 PM on July 13


Household now split on whether neckbeard is forgiven. I vote yes!
posted by TwoStride at 2:26 PM on July 13


(Yeah, medical grade cyanoacrylate to seal the bleed)
posted by 26.2 at 2:26 PM on July 13


...and here come the crying fan shots.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:26 PM on July 13


children weeping angrily in the stands
posted by elizardbits at 2:26 PM on July 13


Already with the crying kids??
posted by RedOrGreen at 2:27 PM on July 13


Quick shot of a crying child there. cheer up son, you're not Brazilian.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:27 PM on July 13


At least it's not crying children
posted by 26.2 at 2:27 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


NO CRYING CHILDREN. PLEASE!!!
posted by Pendragon at 2:27 PM on July 13


I like that the weeping kid's dad pulled him back as if to hide his tears from the big screen.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:27 PM on July 13


Stop with the crying kids!!! /How am I supposed to celebrate???
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:27 PM on July 13


Who's gonna get some Caramel Creams or Cow Tales in celebration?
posted by Small Dollar at 2:27 PM on July 13


That goal truly was an example of the German's superb teamwork.
posted by infini at 2:28 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Assuming you guys aren't just trolling me here, i must have missed that by about 30 seconds
posted by Pink Frost at 2:28 PM on July 13


Assuming you guys aren't just trolling me here, i must have missed that by about 30 seconds

I told you you should have been late for work!
posted by one more dead town's last parade at 2:28 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


*passes aquavit to Pink Frost*
posted by infini at 2:29 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


We aren't trolling unfortunately
posted by marienbad at 2:29 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


You'd think Löw would look a bit more excited right now.
posted by needled at 2:29 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


SO CLOSE MESSI
posted by elizardbits at 2:29 PM on July 13


Oh, Messi.
posted by ardgedee at 2:30 PM on July 13


I think Low is only going to crack a smile when the trophy is actually in their hands.
posted by yasaman at 2:30 PM on July 13


That IS Loew looking excited
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:30 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Just not good enough today, argentina.
posted by marienbad at 2:31 PM on July 13


You'll know he's excited when he gets out a second piece of gum.
posted by MartinWisse at 2:31 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Argentinians are being punished for claiming Messi is better than Pele.
posted by needled at 2:31 PM on July 13


Schweinsteiger's blood sacrifice to the dark gods of football has paid off at last...
posted by Atrahasis at 2:32 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Loew looks ike a guy who has the best ever shag carpet in his sunken den.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:32 PM on July 13 [5 favorites]


Beaten by a neckbeard. The indignity of it all.
posted by 26.2 at 2:33 PM on July 13


Free kick, last chance?
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:33 PM on July 13


And a very well stocked bar.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:33 PM on July 13


no pressure or anything
posted by elizardbits at 2:33 PM on July 13


Schweini down and they're out of subs... Hope the magic sponge will work.
posted by TwoStride at 2:34 PM on July 13


OH GOD MORE CRYING ARGENTINIAN TODDLERS
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:34 PM on July 13


if you thought YOUR job was stressful...
posted by desjardins at 2:34 PM on July 13


Wha?
posted by RedOrGreen at 2:35 PM on July 13


Messi has been dreadful.
posted by fullerine at 2:35 PM on July 13


Messi, overrated or what?
posted by biffa at 2:35 PM on July 13


Its over - Germany are the World Champions!
posted by marienbad at 2:36 PM on July 13


Argentinian low-earth orbit space program is launched!
posted by ardgedee at 2:36 PM on July 13


Löw smiles!
posted by Free word order! at 2:36 PM on July 13


GERMANY!!!!!
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:36 PM on July 13


Messi isn't overrated.
posted by Pendragon at 2:36 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


damn
posted by marienbad at 2:36 PM on July 13


Schweinsteiger = WC piñata
posted by biffa at 2:36 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


well done though, really.
posted by elizardbits at 2:36 PM on July 13


What did we get, 45 secs of stoppage and two mins of German over-acting?
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 2:36 PM on July 13


Thank God I thought we might have to piece Schweinsteiger back together like a Frankenstein.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:36 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Germans: more effusive than you would think
posted by desjardins at 2:36 PM on July 13


Mediocre game by a great player. Calling him overrated based on one game is sort of whack.
posted by 26.2 at 2:37 PM on July 13 [5 favorites]


Tonight we are all crying Argentinian children.
posted by fullerine at 2:37 PM on July 13 [3 favorites]


LOW IS SMILING it is the breaking of the seventh seal
posted by elizardbits at 2:37 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


Congratulations, Germany - you made history, and a well deserved world victory for a great team. Congratulations to Argentina for pushing them all the way.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:37 PM on July 13 [4 favorites]


Um Götze willen.
posted by wensink at 2:37 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Not the outcome I wanted, but I'll take it over PKs.
posted by ardgedee at 2:37 PM on July 13


Loew announces immediate release of all detained loved ones of German players.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:38 PM on July 13


isn't there a passage about about Loew smiling in Revelations?
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:38 PM on July 13


OMG is that a little Poldi? Adorbs!
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:38 PM on July 13


Alemanha é tetracampeão do mundo!

Löw finally smiles!
posted by needled at 2:38 PM on July 13


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH SO HAPPY!

And I'm especially happy that Klose gets to retire with this victory.
posted by TwoStride at 2:38 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


Happy with the outcome; could not have endured any more Brazilian suffering.
posted by lalex at 2:38 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


Well then...
posted by infini at 2:39 PM on July 13


Dammit, it still should've been us.

*sigh*

2018 here we come.
posted by MartinWisse at 2:39 PM on July 13 [3 favorites]


I can't wait for the frequency analysis of "Nazi" twitter mentions for this match.
posted by Small Dollar at 2:39 PM on July 13


Grr elizardbits. Beat me to the joke!
posted by Hairy Lobster at 2:39 PM on July 13


I was teasing about Messi but he has had a fairly mediocre WC.
posted by biffa at 2:39 PM on July 13


Yay! Smiles all around! Though omg, maybe get Schweini some medical attention or a bath full of ice or something.
posted by yasaman at 2:40 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


I have suffered, but at least it's in good company. Meet you here in 2018.
posted by languagehat at 2:40 PM on July 13 [3 favorites]


Congrats to the Germans. So, is anybody going to watch the European Championships in 2016 ?
posted by Pendragon at 2:41 PM on July 13


yay james rodriguez wins the boot
posted by elizardbits at 2:41 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


I really dread the inevitable Gotze/Goatse memes.
posted by desjardins at 2:42 PM on July 13


Don't cry for me, Argentina


sorry sorry sorry
posted by infini at 2:42 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Whee! James!
posted by 26.2 at 2:42 PM on July 13


I think probably the best team in the tournament won, although on the night it could really have gone either way and that's the best Argentina have played all tournament. This German side has been lighting up international competition since 2006; it is a win long in the making.

In case some of you Americans are up later, my Sounders play Portland later tonight. It's nowhere near World Cup quality soccer, but it is about as much hate and rivalry as exists in MLS. It should be pretty fun.
posted by Errant at 2:43 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


I was so hoping for Argentina. I wanted this for Messi. I don't dislike the German team though.
posted by biggreenplant at 2:45 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Now you mention it I do fancy going to Euro 2026, overlaps with the start of the Tour as well.
posted by biffa at 2:45 PM on July 13


Also, totally melting at Podolski and his kid...
posted by TwoStride at 2:45 PM on July 13


2016 even.
posted by biffa at 2:45 PM on July 13


'54 '74 '90 '14

Now I hope Goetze will proudly announce that he's gay.
posted by travelwithcats at 2:46 PM on July 13


Aguero and his beautiful hair crying
posted by desjardins at 2:48 PM on July 13


Neuer does look like he should be playing a Marvel superhero.
posted by needled at 2:48 PM on July 13


now i must track down a mystery smell in my house and destroy it
posted by elizardbits at 2:49 PM on July 13


Final verdict: totes old Bilbo
posted by tofu_crouton at 2:49 PM on July 13


I'm just happy that beeping stopped
posted by desjardins at 2:49 PM on July 13


Now live blogging the minor league All-Star game over on MLB Network. Who's with me?
posted by wensink at 2:52 PM on July 13


Neuer is an exceptionally attractive man in the "blonde and bland" mode.
posted by 26.2 at 2:52 PM on July 13


Losing in the final doubly sucks because they have to keep standing there on the pitch.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:52 PM on July 13


Enough crying fans!
posted by 26.2 at 2:52 PM on July 13


I'm still watching. Apparently flight attendants are part of the ceremony.
posted by desjardins at 2:53 PM on July 13


Enough crying fans!

I'm SORRY, I just can't seem to hold the tears back!
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 2:54 PM on July 13


BOOOOURRRRNS!
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:54 PM on July 13


Actually, Mr. Burns would be way more popular than Sepp Blatter.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:55 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Dilma, this is a big moment and you wore something from DressBarn.
posted by 26.2 at 2:56 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Golden ball for Messi. Ok I guess.
posted by RedOrGreen at 2:56 PM on July 13


Messi looks so forlorn
posted by Small Dollar at 2:57 PM on July 13


Wow Sad Messi needs his own Tumblr now.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:57 PM on July 13


Oh, Leo.
posted by 26.2 at 2:57 PM on July 13


Wow, the difference in body language between Messi and Neuer. I just want to give Messi a hug.
posted by desjardins at 2:57 PM on July 13


sad days indeed when the Germans win the World Cup.
posted by marienbad at 2:58 PM on July 13


This is probably the most torturous hour in all of sports for the losing side.
posted by Errant at 2:59 PM on July 13


Messi looks like he wants to just get into bed and huddle under the blankets weeping, which is the expression I wanted to see on Arjen Robben's face and not his, dammit.
posted by elizardbits at 2:59 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Shit, they turned the TV off while I was in the loo. Damn Monday morning anyway...
posted by infini at 2:59 PM on July 13


Messi is comically tiny next to Neuer.
posted by needled at 3:00 PM on July 13


Gotta go, I want to have a look at a couple of other threads then go to bed as I have (yet again!) work early in the morning. Thanks for everything everyone, its been an absolute blast, loads of fun, I've loved the discussion and jokes, and its very different from how I've ever watched a World Cup before, so thanks again.
posted by marienbad at 3:01 PM on July 13 [4 favorites]


AAAH THE MOMENT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ALL MONTH

THE HUG
posted by elizardbits at 3:02 PM on July 13


The stewardesses look like they're staring at something in the sky.../
posted by Hairy Lobster at 3:05 PM on July 13


Does this mean we don't have to listen to the "Bippity Boppity Boo" commercials anymore?
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:07 PM on July 13


Messi looks like he wants to just get into bed and huddle under the blankets weeping, which is the expression I wanted to see on Arjen Robben's face and not his, dammit.

Don't worry. He's signing for ManU. You will see his tears.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:07 PM on July 13


Latest report I read says that we'll be spared Floppin Robben next year in the Premier League.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:09 PM on July 13


If I follow the primier league next year, who should I root for that I can see in the states but have a chance to do ok.
posted by shothotbot at 3:11 PM on July 13


You might check out some of the previous AskMe threads on the matter, but I think you should just start watching and let a team pick you.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:12 PM on July 13


Yeah, NBC Sports has been doing really well with their coverage. This is the only context where I'd say, "And if you have Comcast, it's even better!"
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:16 PM on July 13


What Dr. Zira said. Watch as many games as you can, and sooner or later you'll find yourself cheering one team in particular. You only get to pick once, might as well take your time.
posted by Errant at 3:19 PM on July 13


We do a MeFi Premier League Fantasy League every year, so watch the MeTa posts for that.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:20 PM on July 13


Latest report I read says that we'll be spared Floppin Robben next year in the Premier League.

Yeah, Guardian quotes him as saying that Van Gaal asked if he wanted to join United, but he wants to stay at Bayern (unsurprisingly).
posted by Pink Frost at 3:22 PM on July 13


Arsenal has a cannon on their badge, so that is a big point in their favor.
posted by shothotbot at 3:22 PM on July 13


If I follow the primier league next year, who should I root for that I can see in the states but have a chance to do ok.

Sunderland. Then you can learn a new language at the same time...
posted by Thing at 3:25 PM on July 13 [4 favorites]


Listening to post-game coverage on BBC Radio Five. Turns out sports talk radio in the UK is just as inane as it is here.
posted by wensink at 3:25 PM on July 13


If I follow the primier league next year, who should I root for that I can see in the states but have a chance to do ok.
It's football, watch some games to find out who you hate and then support their rivals.
posted by fullerine at 3:26 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Sure, I mean, Arsenal is the only correct answer, but you can pick whomever.
posted by Errant at 3:28 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]




This is the Mitchell & Webb bit that helped make me a Liverpool fan. I WAS ON THAT TANK TOO!
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:31 PM on July 13


A Germany world cup thread discussing Mitchell and Webb, surely you mean this one?
posted by fullerine at 3:37 PM on July 13


I have a bit of love for Chelsea, though Hot Totts games are always on in bars here.
posted by 26.2 at 3:37 PM on July 13




Why limit yourself to Premier League when there's also the endless hilarity and majesty of Serie A and La Liga and the Bundesliga though
posted by elizardbits at 3:46 PM on July 13


Can I also say I've really enjoyed watching the games with you MeFites. Especially because I've been having a little stress over the past few weeks leaving my job, packing up my house and getting ready to move overseas for a while (tomorrow). So it has been a real brick to be able to read up and join in the World Cup threads, punctuating this frustrating time with stress-free fun and football frolics. Apologies for the games I didn't see with you all, I was either saying goodbye to people or moving possessions from hither to yon. Anyways, you've been a little rock for me recently, team MetaFilter; may your commentary microphone and your TV reception never fail, and I hope I can pay you all back sometime with a beer and a chat. Much love from House quidnunc, in exile.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:47 PM on July 13 [14 favorites]


quidnunc - safe travels!

Mefites, this has been gobs of fun.
posted by 26.2 at 3:51 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Well, that didn't take long. Can't wait for all the fun with the Schweinsteiger-Podolski(?) extended air kiss...
posted by TwoStride at 3:53 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


good work everyone, 3 month break and we'll all meet back here for the 2016 euro qualifiers
posted by elizardbits at 3:55 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


ESPN just showed German Matt Damon's celebration after the goal. Taylor Twellman asked him if he practiced his goal celebration. Quoth the Ballack: "Sure, seven times during the semifinal."
posted by Dr. Zira at 4:02 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


I don't want it to end. Thanks for the fun everyone.
posted by shothotbot at 4:03 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


I've got a good feeling about Spurs this season, a good feeling they will delude themselves that they are a top team and have a hope in hell of getting anywhere and be a running joke, just like last season.
posted by biffa at 4:19 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


> Can I also say I've really enjoyed watching the games with you MeFites.

Likewise, quid. It's great to be able to discuss the action with supporters of both sides and not have tiresome trash talk or nationalistic bullshit, just mutual appreciation of good stuff and deploring of bad stuff. Looking forward to the next time. And bon voyage!
posted by languagehat at 4:25 PM on July 13 [5 favorites]


Okay. Late to the show. I can't stream soccer and comment at the same time and message with family and answer the phone, so.
Been reading most of all of this and it's been great. And also it's my birthday and Germany won and we had TWO bottles of bubbly in the fridge to celebrate. So. Yay everything and everybody!
posted by Namlit at 4:30 PM on July 13 [2 favorites]


Happy birthday, Namlit! What a great way to celebrate!
posted by TwoStride at 4:32 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


good work everyone, 3 month break and we'll all meet back here for the 2016 euro qualifiers

Surely we could slip a regular Premier League* thread past the mods though? Surely we could do that?

* [or La Liga or Serie A or Champs League]
posted by Pink Frost at 4:57 PM on July 13


No Götze, no glory. [Sorry!]

This has been fun. Thanks all for doggedly putting up new game day posts. And thanks to Dr. Zira for those AskMeFi links.
posted by wensink at 5:51 PM on July 13 [1 favorite]


Hi again, everyone. I'm happy about Germany's success because they have been trying to improve their team for over a decade and they turned their unattractive football of 2002 into successive teams that played well and, in the end, found the success they deserved. Well done, Germany, and well done Argentina for almost making it and for scaring many people in Germany.

It was great chatting with Mefites during the cup and you should all watch the Basketball World Cup too next month!

Incidentally, I'm also moving, but I can't help voting #1 quidnunc kid for Prime Mover. Good luck, tqk.
posted by ersatz at 5:55 PM on July 13 [3 favorites]




That NCPG twist to their ad is fucking brilliant.
posted by marienbad at 1:00 AM on July 14


Whatever you're going to watch, don't watch the Dutch Eredivisie. You will be bored to death.
posted by Pendragon at 1:28 AM on July 14


And thanks everybody, for a memorable World Cup viewing experience.
posted by Pendragon at 1:32 AM on July 14 [1 favorite]


Argentina's coach looks like Bilbo Baggins

I was thinking the elderly Marlon Brando.
posted by aught at 6:55 AM on July 14


CBC's excellent World Cup montage (despite Coldplay). It's been a blast, folks!
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 9:50 AM on July 14 [1 favorite]


Don't miss the Zonal Marking post; it's a great read, and you can't argue with his "Conclusion": "Germany had more possession but Argentina had the best chances at 0-0. However, the most shocking statistic is that Argentina failed to manage a shot on target in 120 minutes [...]. Wasteful finishing cost Argentina." Yup.
posted by languagehat at 11:15 AM on July 14 [1 favorite]


CBC's excellent World Cup montage vimeo (despite Coldplay).

Deleted because DMCA takedown.

("Vimeo has removed or disabled access to the following material as a result of a third-party notification by Federation Internationale De Football Association claiming that this material is infringing: World Cup 2014 Compilation - CBC.")

[Expletives deleted.]
posted by RedOrGreen at 11:15 AM on July 14




("Vimeo has removed or disabled access to the following material as a result of a third-party notification by Federation Internationale De Football Association claiming that this material is infringing: World Cup 2014 Compilation - CBC.")

Here's the link to the video on the CBC website, but I'm quite sure it doesn't work outside Canada. BLATTER!
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 9:41 PM on July 14


So is nobody doing a World Cup summary post collecting all the weird and wonderful things that happened during World Cup 2014?
posted by needled at 9:38 AM on July 15


Here. Good lord, we've stretched the mods' tolerance enough, the last thing we need is to try to sneak in yet another Cup post. Let's save any remaining reservoirs of indulgence for the next big event.
posted by languagehat at 2:07 PM on July 15




Ugh. I remember World Cup Withdrawal from four years ago and its just as bad now going back to my rewarding, interesting job and loving, supportive family. I spent an hour today reading wrap-ups.
posted by shothotbot at 6:40 PM on July 15


Emirates Spent Millions to Get Its Flight Attendants on the World Cup Pitch

Were they working stewardesses? I took Emirates several years ago and the staff did look like it was out of a high budget TV show.
posted by shothotbot at 6:43 PM on July 15


CURRENT FIFA WORLD RANKINGS

Germany are top for the first time in 20 years.
Argentina are up to second.
Spain, Portugal and Brazil drop out of top 5

Netherlands and Chile move up 12 places

England down to 20th - a drop of 10 places.
posted by marienbad at 1:29 AM on July 17


England is below USA. Who is the master now?
posted by shothotbot at 5:13 AM on July 17


Germany.
posted by ardgedee at 8:46 AM on July 17 [3 favorites]


Oliver Farry's wrapup on the World Cup, for those of you who are still jonesing for talk about Germany, Messi, Luís Suárez, "Honduras, whose intended game-plan of kicking more gifted opposition failed miserably," and the like.
posted by languagehat at 10:20 AM on July 31


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