Ladies and Gentlemen: Power Coffee
October 17, 2014 6:08 PM   Subscribe

"I am seldom considered liberal, but happily so when regarding the quantity of healthy fat in my coffee. "

"You will not get the fats fully emulsified in the coffee without some powerful blending action. This is key to getting the right flavor. You need that frothiness in order to experience the full force of power coffee. "
posted by showbiz_liz (71 comments total) 5 users marked this as a favorite
 
Maybe this is better than it looks, but I will not be doing that to my morning coffee any time soon.
posted by selenized at 6:17 PM on October 17, 2014 [2 favorites]


This is a person whose lifestyle and choices are more often than not completely different to my own. Right down to the coffee. (Has this guy ever experienced a full fat cappuccino, I wonder?) Fascinating.
posted by Mizu at 6:21 PM on October 17, 2014


Kill it
posted by Potomac Avenue at 6:22 PM on October 17, 2014 [4 favorites]


Ugh, I can't imagine drinking that. Unless it had pumpkin spice.
posted by Metroid Baby at 6:28 PM on October 17, 2014 [12 favorites]


I recently had Tibetan tea which has yak butter in it, and it was claimed it gives Tibetans the energy to work at high altitudes and cold temperatures. However, since I don't live on the Himalayan plateau and it was moderately unpleasant to drink, I shan't be repeating the experience or putting sodding Kerrygold into my lovely coffee.

I'd suggest porridge with a wee dram in it, kedgeree or a proper black-pudding-laden fry up if you want a real power breakfast.
posted by sobarel at 6:30 PM on October 17, 2014 [3 favorites]


I stumbled across the whole bulletproof coffee thing a few months ago, it's weird how viral it's become. I guess its a confluence of the current food zeitgeists of low-carb/anti-sugar/grain-brain-thinking + coconut oil re-emergence/saturated-fat-atherosclerosis repudiation + coffee snobbishness + extreme foody-ism. But how to make it in my new aeropress?
posted by Auden at 6:31 PM on October 17, 2014 [10 favorites]


yeah, actually, I sometimes drop some kerrygold in my pu-erh, sobarel.
posted by Auden at 6:32 PM on October 17, 2014 [1 favorite]


Reading this made me a little queasy.
posted by pemberkins at 6:32 PM on October 17, 2014 [1 favorite]


What can I smear this on?
posted by oceanjesse at 6:33 PM on October 17, 2014


Looks interesting, I'll probably give it a try.

That said, this article exemplifies the kind of woo that so many fitness sites peddle. Very specific instructions with no reason but much emphasis: UNSALTED butter, and of COURSE creatine, but the monohydrate is fine! Proof by repetition, with links to sites like "dangerouslyhardcore dot com" and for-profit consulting sites... well, I'm convinced.

Is it really that hard to come across decent fitness information?
posted by underflow at 6:34 PM on October 17, 2014 [8 favorites]


yeah, actually, I sometimes drop some kerrygold in my pu-erh, sobarel.

On purpose, or just by accident when it's en route to being smothered over a nice croissant?
posted by sobarel at 6:38 PM on October 17, 2014 [3 favorites]


If some random dude with no engineering background whatsoever told you all about his amazing revolutionary bridge he'd built over the ravine with these ideas that took on a lot of the sacred cows of, you know, conventional bridge engineering, because check out all these links to sort of esoteric articles about structural dynamics that seemed sort of relevant but then again weren't really something you had the background or training to really interpret fully, plus he had a picture showing him totally driving a backhoe across it one time, you know, you wouldn't drive your car across that bridge. Also, he's got his entire family doing crossfit. Also, that second to last paragraph on his disclaimer page. I'll keep the creatine out of my morning cup thanks.
posted by nanojath at 6:39 PM on October 17, 2014 [22 favorites]


But Wait...What Brand Of Coffee Do I Need To Use?
posted by oceanjesse at 6:40 PM on October 17, 2014 [3 favorites]


I love it. "Breakfast isn't important! Who needs breakfast? You can skip breakfast - just put several hundred calories of fat into your coffee. Take THAT, breakfast!!" I wonder if it would BLOW his MIND to learn that nearly every day I eat a breakfast that has fewer calories than that concoction.
posted by Joey Buttafoucault at 6:49 PM on October 17, 2014 [2 favorites]


Does the addition of butter in the correct proportion and state slow down the transit of coffee to my mouth in any way?



Because if so, I will straight-up murder you.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 6:50 PM on October 17, 2014 [6 favorites]


I've put just coconut oil in coffee before, reasoning that it's not much different in effect from coffee creamer or whole cream. It was ok. However, I didn't blend/emulsify it. After a while you end with a greasy scum on top of the coffee. That makes it somewhat less appealing.

Haven't tried butter. Will try it some day, just in the spirit of inquiry. But butter AND coconut oil? I get heartburn just thinking of it.
posted by Archer25 at 6:51 PM on October 17, 2014 [1 favorite]


I find whole milk in coffee a little excessive. I can't imagine putting in butter. Butter belongs in the pastry that goes with the coffee.
posted by jeather at 6:52 PM on October 17, 2014 [1 favorite]


Why would someone want to do this to a perfectly nice cup of coffee?
posted by freakazoid at 7:00 PM on October 17, 2014 [3 favorites]


So I haven't actually tried it yet, but I did recently Kickstart a project that made Bulletproof Coffee blocks. I need to try them soon here. For what it's worth, there's a lot of (obviously all anecdotal) stuff out there about this style of coffee and the benefits/issues with it. It seems like a good way to get a burst of healthy fats (and the attendant energy and satiety effects) in the morning if you eat low-carb and don't have time for/enjoy eating breakfast. I swing back and forth on breakfast, so I figured I'd try these the next time I hit a "Morning cooking is too much work right now," phase.

Can't believe I hadn't thought about taking my creatine with coffee before now. That's actually really clever, even if you aren't adding in the rest of it. Underflow, as regards creatine, the science is pretty solid at this point: it's harmless, it enhances physical and mental abilities, and monohydrate, the cheapest type, provides all of the benefits. That part, at least, isn't woo.
posted by protocoach at 7:04 PM on October 17, 2014 [3 favorites]


I recently had Tibetan tea which has yak butter in it, [...] and it was moderately unpleasant to drink

I tried it at a nearby Tibetan restaurant; it was like drinking somebody else's saliva. I managed two mouthfuls and had to stop.

Possibly irrelevantly, that restaurant has since been replaced by one of those burger joints that worships bacon.
posted by George_Spiggott at 7:06 PM on October 17, 2014 [2 favorites]


Such incredible bro science here
posted by Joe Chip at 7:07 PM on October 17, 2014 [14 favorites]


Butter is stupid. It's all about HEAVY WHIPPING CREAM. So good.
posted by leotrotsky at 7:19 PM on October 17, 2014 [13 favorites]


I don't know about this creatine business, but butter in coffee is delicious and -- calorie for calorie -- keeps me from wanting a snack before lunch better than just about anything else.
posted by the jam at 7:23 PM on October 17, 2014 [4 favorites]


Yeah, I've been drinking (excessive) amounts of heavy cream in my coffee "instead" of breakfast for years, as part of an overall low-ish carb diet. It's truly heavenly, and a beautiful way to start the day.

I tried the butter-in-the-bender thing a while back when I first heard of this. The idea has been making the rounds of paleo blogs for a few years. It's ok. I'll do it occasionally when I'm out of cream. But I'm accustomed to and at this point really require a fair bit of fat in my coffee. Couldn't comment on the supplements and whatnot, clearly this fellow and I have different ideas and/or "needs" in that department.
posted by jeweled accumulation at 7:28 PM on October 17, 2014 [1 favorite]


I should note that despite this "perfect" breakfast, just about all I have is that "stubborn midsection fat." I thought it was genetics, maybe I should invest in a Keurig and some creatine...
posted by jeweled accumulation at 7:32 PM on October 17, 2014


Butter is basically just.... churned cream.

I've had bulletproof coffee a few times. It's delicious and frothy. I like my coffee super piping hot, and dislike the way blending it cools it down though, so it's not something I'd ever have on the regular.
posted by the webmistress at 7:49 PM on October 17, 2014 [1 favorite]


So basically this is one of those iced coffee weirdness things, only hot?
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 7:57 PM on October 17, 2014


zeitgeists of low-carb/anti-sugar/grain-brain-thinking + coconut oil re-emergence/saturated-fat-atherosclerosis repudiation + coffee snobbishness + extreme foody-ism

wha


what
posted by Ray Walston, Luck Dragon at 8:04 PM on October 17, 2014 [5 favorites]


affogatto is an italian dessert consisting of a demitasse of espresso or very strong coffee with a scoop of ice cream in it, and it tastes just as good when you wake up as it does after dinner.

business idea from long ago: a chain of tibetan-themed stores peddling yak products, et. al., "yakshack".
posted by bruce at 8:07 PM on October 17, 2014 [8 favorites]


I've had bulletproof coffee a few times. It's delicious and frothy. I like my coffee super piping hot, and dislike the way blending it cools it down though, so it's not something I'd ever have on the regular.

Well of course it gets cold, unless you get the blender blades up to red hot from friction, using an artisanal hand-driven blender, propelled by a broheim on steroids.
posted by charlie don't surf at 8:17 PM on October 17, 2014


Doesn't one of those does everything blenders heat as well as blend, for making soup or something? You could use that, for your thick, buttery morning coffee.
posted by thylacinthine at 8:24 PM on October 17, 2014 [1 favorite]


I was about to say just wait until the internet hears about egg coffee - and then I realized I was too late.

I can't wait for bacon-fat coffee. Bacon fat - THE PERFECT EMULSIFIER BRO!
posted by jnnla at 8:35 PM on October 17, 2014 [1 favorite]


Nope, hate anything in my coffee except coffee. Of course, I'm a snob who grinds my beans fresh and does an over night cold soak and if you heat my coffee I'll be very sad.

So, butter + coffee? Not a chance it dulls the flavor of the coffee!
posted by drewbage1847 at 8:45 PM on October 17, 2014


I drink my coffee black and came in here prepared to be grossed out and indignant. I leave oddly compelled and likely to check the fridge for butter in the morning.
posted by ryanshepard at 8:50 PM on October 17, 2014 [1 favorite]


When I first heard of bulletproof coffee I wanted to hate it - it sounded disgusting and over-the-top and stupid. But you know what? It's tasty. And it makes for a great start to the morning. I have energy and happy feelings in the morning, no matter how little I slept. Good stuff.
posted by joan_holloway at 9:51 PM on October 17, 2014 [2 favorites]


I've had butter in my coffee when we've run out of milk. It's thick and frothy, a nice change of pace, and actually pretty tasty, but not really something I'd go in for on a regular basis. It takes a lot of butter for the flavor and texture to work for my tastes; seriously close to a tablespoon per 9 ounces or so of coffee, and I usually end up bumping with a tad extra sugar to balance it out. That's a lot more calorically than my usual splash of two-percent, and I don't think I could ever be down with a glob of oil on top of that.

As to health benefits, I'm quite convinced there's nothing special going on here. Fat contributes to satisfaction, and consuming calories at breakfast time helps you hold out until lunch. These are, like, basic facts about eating. If you're really just using coffee as a supplement – coconut oil and creatine, seriously? – well, you are some kind of flavor criminal and should consider brewing coffee that you actually enjoy instead of literally referring to your food as a tool.
posted by WCWedin at 9:55 PM on October 17, 2014 [1 favorite]


When I eat low-carb I skip breakfast to achieve a fasting interval. Instead I enjoy a coffee with a hefty dose of heavy cream. It achieves the same end as this nonsense and is a) perfectly delicious and b) attainable at most normal coffee shops. Ask for "breve" or a little steamed heavy cream in the bottom of the cup. (Add cinnamon and a drop or two of liquid Sucralose and it's a low carb Cinnabon in a cup.)
posted by annekate at 10:02 PM on October 17, 2014 [4 favorites]


affogati are the perfect breakfast.

yes, plural.

affogato+shot of good brandy = a grown-up four loko
posted by raihan_ at 10:03 PM on October 17, 2014 [11 favorites]


As an aside, what's with all the K-cups everywhere all the time? They really are just plain bad, and not particularly cheap, either. For the same price as a 24 pack of K-cups, I can get a pound of fresh, locally-roasted beans and brew about 24 cups at proper strength. For the price for a Keurig machine, you can get a french press, a burr grinder, an electric kettle, and a kitchen timer. You'll have better, fresher coffee, and three out of those four devices are useful for other things. There's something to be said for a coffee maker that can be washed with soap and water, too.
posted by WCWedin at 10:05 PM on October 17, 2014 [12 favorites]


As to health benefits, I'm quite convinced there's nothing special going on here. Fat contributes to satisfaction, and consuming calories at breakfast time helps you hold out until lunch. These are, like, basic facts about eating. If you're really just using coffee as a supplement – coconut oil and creatine, seriously? – well, you are some kind of flavor criminal and should consider brewing coffee that you actually enjoy instead of literally referring to your food as a tool.
Life's a rich tapestry, yo. Sometimes you want gourmet shit that tastes of the finest ground whatever beans hand picked with love on a mountainside outside Santiago de Los Caballeros and other times you want to slam a stupid kcup into the stupid machine and get out the stupid door because it is morning and everything is stupid. If you have performance or aesthetic goals, food's a tool for reaching them. It doesn't mean the food has to be terrible, but if you've got macro numbers and you want to meet them, sometimes the flavor is sacrificed. It doesn't make you a bad person, it's just a different value system. Food can serve many purposes, it's neat that way.
posted by protocoach at 10:38 PM on October 17, 2014 [5 favorites]


He lost me at "with the goal of encouraging other men to faithfully lead their families with conviction and purpose."
posted by a humble nudibranch at 11:16 PM on October 17, 2014 [6 favorites]


Butter is stupid. It's all about HEAVY WHIPPING CREAM. So good.

Seriously. Isn't butter just cream a bit further down the road? Put cream in your coffee and the fat content would be the same, and you can drink a nice cafe ole. Instead of...coffee with butter. The fuck.

That said, I know that the natives of Lapland will put reindeer fat in their coffee and it's supposed to be quite good.
posted by zardoz at 11:43 PM on October 17, 2014 [1 favorite]


I can't wait for bacon-fat coffee

It's really good. I can't do coconut oil in coffee though, I'd rather just eat the coconut oil straight.
posted by lastobelus at 1:35 AM on October 18, 2014


I knew a guy that did this who had basically zero body fat who looked like Bruce Willis in the first Die Hard if Bruce Willis did Die Hard every day for most of his life. He also basically ate a quarter pound to half pound of butter on a half a loaf of bread for breakfast every morning.

But I suspect that his fitness had more to do with the fact he pretty much crawled the walls 20 hours a day and never stopped moving.

I could still kick his ass, though, because at the time we had a mutual fitness program called "try and kick my ass whenever you feel like it" to keep each other on our respective toes because of reasons, and I wrassled him good every time.

Granted I probably had 50-100 pounds on him and was also eating a lot of butter, but I mainly just got fat and indigestion, and I still prefer my coffee black because what the fuck is wrong with you people who hate coffee so much that you put cow excretions in it?

Anyway, yeah, major fat in coffee is a thing that works great, if you burn like 8000 calories a day moving cubic yards of compost then doing trapeze exercises for a relaxing break before playing with a jackhammer and flinging bags of concrete around like throw pillows.

Very few people do.
posted by loquacious at 1:43 AM on October 18, 2014 [1 favorite]


Dave Asprey, the founder of Bulletproof Coffee, is a quack, with no medical background whatsoever to justify his rather ludicrous claims...

"It seems like a good way to get a burst of healthy fats"

If, by healthy fats, you mean the same fats that have been tested again and again, only to show that they very rapidly reduce coronary blood flow... all based on a diet that has been shown to be inferior, as far as heart health, to that of healthier, lower-fat diets... including diets like the Ornish diet, that has been shown to reverse heart disease.

I'm not saying you can't lose some weight with Atkins. I'm just saying that there's nothing less bulletproof than a high-powered, libertarian-minded, free-market executive, brought down in the prime of life by a heart attack or stroke.

To their credit, vegetarians don't think it particularly hip to add flax seeds to their coffee, even if it would likely be good for them.
posted by markkraft at 1:47 AM on October 18, 2014 [1 favorite]


Also, that second to last paragraph on his disclaimer page.

Yeah, hoo boy, I was almost starting to feel bad about making fun of him until I read that.
posted by en forme de poire at 2:14 AM on October 18, 2014 [1 favorite]


A shop opened at the mall near us a while ago that sells this coffee. I bought some out of curiosity, and it was actually really tasty, but about a third of the way through, I suddenly felt VERY FULL, kind of like you do at the end of a three course dinner. And I hadn't eaten anything that morning before the coffee. It was a very strange feeling. I had to throw the rest away. I don't recall feeling especially productive or powerful afterwards, either, sadly.
posted by lollusc at 2:56 AM on October 18, 2014


This just made me hate the coffee fetish even more (see also: chocolate stupidity).
posted by sonascope at 3:52 AM on October 18, 2014


I tried it to avoid the post-coffee munchies and it worked pretty well. I tried the coconut oil to see if it helped smooth out the jittery and it did. So, yay. As a lazy coffee drinker and a fan of the iced, it's pretty much boiled down to a shot of coconut oil.

If you add sugar to it, is better.

I drink my coffee in the mornin
I drink my coffee at night
I drink it black or with soy milk
It makes me feel arite

I drink my coffee in times of peace
My coffee in times of war
I drink my coffee before I drink my coffee
And then I drink two more

pickitup pickitup, pickitup, hep! hep
posted by petebest at 4:51 AM on October 18, 2014 [2 favorites]


I think you're mixed up, Pete. Why aren't you starting with two coffees in the morning?
posted by I-Write-Essays at 5:10 AM on October 18, 2014 [1 favorite]


I am like the one person outside of Tibet who actually loves Tibetan yak-butter tea.

The first time I ordered it, the waiter actually warned me not to get it because no one ever liked it. But I am the kind of person who, if I see something like "Gluten Stick" on a menu will order it immediately because I worry it will get lonely if no one ever orders it.

It was wonderful. I ended up getting a refill. The waiter was ... surprised.
posted by kyrademon at 5:44 AM on October 18, 2014 [5 favorites]


You know who is really into Bulletproof Coffee for some reason? Brandon Routh. It seems like 75% of his twitter feed is Bulletproof Coffee related. Anyways, just a random thing I know that now you do too. Also, Brandon is great on Arrow this year.
posted by joelhunt at 6:22 AM on October 18, 2014


I have a colleague who does this, but with a different mix of appalling ingredients: whipping cream + coconut oil + 2 tbsp whey protein + 2 tbsp cinnamon (yep, tablespoons) + 4 tbsp unsweetened cocoa. Looks and smells like hair product of doom. He's a young lad, no body fat, insanely active; good luck with that.
posted by scruss at 7:25 AM on October 18, 2014


But I am the kind of person who, if I see something like "Gluten Stick" on a menu will order it immediately because I worry it will get lonely if no one ever orders it.

So you pet the crouton, and then you eat it?
posted by leotrotsky at 7:38 AM on October 18, 2014 [6 favorites]


because what the fuck is wrong with you people who hate coffee so much that you put cow excretions in it?

As with tea, putting fat in coffee masks the tannins, letting you taste more of the actual coffee itself.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 8:24 AM on October 18, 2014 [3 favorites]


I recently started the keto diet thing and I've had BPC every day for about 5 weeks. At this point, I can't really function without it. It takes about 3 minutes to make and keeps me (an enormous man) full for about 5-6 hours.

I use

2 tablespoons of coconut oil
1 tablespoon of the Kerrygold butter
1 scoop of Isopure Dutch chocolate protein powder
1 tablespoon of heavy whipping cream.
Blend in a Magic Bullet for 30-45 seconds, pulsing occasionally

I'm not buying the bullshit about using only the finest beans because of enzymes or whateverthefuck the guy is on about, but for the purposes of my diet it is perfect.

I'm actually thinking of doing an FPP on keto diets, as it has been nothing short of miraculous for me. This coffee is perhaps the most important part of that diet for me.
posted by lattiboy at 9:01 AM on October 18, 2014 [10 favorites]


if the name of this "beverage" is not Diarrhea Juggernaut then there is nothing good and true left in this world at all
posted by poffin boffin at 9:09 AM on October 18, 2014 [16 favorites]


I like butter coffee. I briefly flirted with creating a fake blog "Butter Coffee Saved my Life" but I don't have that much time.

People go on and on about UNSALTED ONLY which is ridiculous. The amount of salt in salted butter is enough to enhance the flavor of the butter, not enough to make your coffee taste like salt-water.

Butter coffee definitely has a different taste than coffee with whipping cream--both have a slickness but the butter is more like the oil on a coffee bean than is the cream. I prefer butter over whipping cream, honestly, in coffee, but I like 2% milk best.
posted by crush-onastick at 9:17 AM on October 18, 2014


I think "diarrhea juggernaut" should also have flax seeds for good measure
posted by en forme de poire at 10:50 AM on October 18, 2014


As with coffee, a better grade of tea brewed properly eliminates the need for this sort of thing.

Yes and no. Tannins will be present, the same way they'll be present in oak-aged wines, for example.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 11:51 AM on October 18, 2014 [2 favorites]


You want to create the habit of consuming the end products of a functional recipe.

That sentence (from TFA) is where I realized the author was talking to someone else, because that is not what I want to do. I want to eat and drink lots of healthy, delicious food. There may or may not be some overlap there with "consuming the end products of a functional recipe," but I just can't think about my food that way without getting miserable and neurotic about it all.
posted by Anticipation Of A New Lover's Arrival, The at 12:38 PM on October 18, 2014 [3 favorites]


I'm actually thinking of doing an FPP on keto diets, as it has been nothing short of miraculous for me.

I hope you do it, I'm also doing a low-carb stretch at the moment, burning through another ketostix each morning. If you do make a FPP, I hope you also cover the various psychological benefits (including the phenomenon of ketosis euphoria due to ketone body GHB analogue BHB)
posted by Auden at 1:43 PM on October 18, 2014


I prefer "Triple Shart Farte" to "Diarrhea Juggernaut"
posted by azarbayejani at 1:49 PM on October 18, 2014 [5 favorites]


The BulletProof Exec "Upgraded" coffee that "harbors the lowest possible mold toxins and heavy metal load" is so silly. Put butter in your coffee if you must, but don't buy his coffee.

The BPC coffee is just some no ferment, fully washed South American coffee, a little above commodity grade. Millions of pounds of coffee like that winds up in the grocery aisle every year, and millions of pounds of coffee processed with fermentation also winds up there. I find it hard to believe a. there are mold toxins or anything else from fermentation that could survive the roasting process and b. that if these toxins did exist, that people wouldn't have noticed already, because fully washed coffees have been a thing for quite a while now.

Doesn't stop him from radically marking up highly mediocre coffee.
posted by MetropolisOfMentalLife at 2:54 PM on October 18, 2014 [1 favorite]


"I recently started the keto diet thing and I've had BPC every day for about 5 weeks.. . .
I use 2 tablespoons of coconut oil, 1 tablespoon of the Kerrygold butter, 1 scoop of Isopure Dutch chocolate protein powder, 1 tablespoon of heavy whipping cream. keeps me (an enormous man) full for about 5-6 hours."


Given that you just described a beverage with about 700 calories, I would kind of hope so.

You know what else has 700 calories and keeps you full for 5-6 hours... or longer?

How about a full cup of dried oatmeal, cooked and served with fresh blueberries, a low calorie sweetener, and almond milk... a huge artichoke -- prepared effortlessly by sticking it in a rice cooker or steamer and basically forgetting it -- served with a dip made out of two tablespoons of hummus mixed with fresh dill, lemon juice, and a half cup of non-fat yogurt, two cups of kim chee and a cup of edamame for snacks, and ten cups of spinach, with half of that flash-boiled, then quickly drained and put in the freezer, prepared as ohitashi, with toasted sesame seeds and ponzu sauce... and the other half as a salad with a quarter of an avocado, sliced, pickled ginger, more sesame seeds, and a wasabi / ponzu / seasoned rice vinegar dressing?

How long does all that take to prepare, anyway? Not long. And would you be surprised if that could potentially fill you up for an entire day, as opposed to just a third of a day? Oh, and it has far more in the way of nutrients, too, in a form more easily absorbed by the body than supplements.

Yes, you can lose weight eating a high fat diet. You can lose weight eating a high carb diet too. You can lose weight by consuming nothing other than supplements. But by and large, losing weight by eating a diet loaded with vegetables and nutrients is better for you. I say this based on having been an enormous man diagnosed with arterial fibrillation, a likely fatty liver, and plantar's feet largely due to my weight, who has lost over 90 lbs. -- and kept it off -- by gradually switching to a largely plant-based diet over the last three years or so. I'm not ultra-religious about it, but I am now mostly vegan. Oh, and I haven't had a fibrillation incident or a bad attack of plantar's feet for well over a year now, too.... and I'm still gradually dropping weight, while maintaining and improving upon my fitness level and muscularity, too.
posted by markkraft at 4:11 PM on October 18, 2014 [7 favorites]


I usually drink black coffee, but the butter-coconut oil add is pretty delicious. The unsalted / salted doesn't matter: salt actually seems to reduce the bitterness of some coffee. I tend to go for it when I don't plan to have lunch, and it seems to hold me over until late afternoon.

Of course, if you don't have a blender, it's going to suck royally. Thus Marco Arment, and L.V. Anderson's review, which basically shows that if you don't follow instructions, it won't work. But when it's blended, it tastes a little like a cappuccino. That's why one blends it. Why make something incorrectly and then say it's a bunch of crap?

I'm kind of on the side of the recent analysis of the fat-heart disease connection that wonders why there's an increase in obesity while also an increase in low-fat options. I've recently gone on a no sugar, no wheat lifestyle change that's resulted in me losing bout 14 lbs in six weeks (included - a severe restriction on beer, for I'm not a sweet-tooth).

Vegetables are good, especially sautéd or fried in pork fat or tallow.
posted by john wilkins at 5:01 PM on October 18, 2014


2 tablespoons coffee medium grind
1 tablespoon pumice
2 tablespoons whale oil
1 tablespoon paprika
1 tablespoon activated charcoal
3/4 tablespoon acetone

No that's not an actual recipe but I felt like it belonged in this thread.
posted by charlie don't surf at 5:21 PM on October 18, 2014 [11 favorites]


"I recently started the keto diet thing and I've had BPC every day for about 5 weeks.. . .
I use 2 tablespoons of coconut oil, 1 tablespoon of the Kerrygold butter, 1 scoop of Isopure Dutch chocolate protein powder, 1 tablespoon of heavy whipping cream. keeps me (an enormous man) full for about 5-6 hours."

Given that you just described a beverage with about 700 calories, I would kind of hope so.

You know what else has 700 calories and keeps you full for 5-6 hours... or longer?


this comment bugged me , so I DID THE MATH:

2 TBSP coconut oil: 234 calories
1 TBSP butter: 102 calories
1 scoop Isopure Duch Chocolate Protein Powder: 100 calories
1 TBSP heavy whipping cream: 52 calories

total: 484

your claim: 700 calories.
posted by Auden at 5:21 PM on October 18, 2014 [1 favorite]


"I'm kind of on the side of the recent analysis of the fat-heart disease connection that wonders why there's an increase in obesity while also an increase in low-fat options. I've recently gone on a no sugar, no wheat lifestyle change that's resulted in me losing bout 14 lbs in six weeks"

The obvious reason that low-fat food is bad for you is that it tends to be much higher in sugar and processed carbs, more or less in that order.

Did I mention that you can eat plants, and stay away from sugar and processed foods at the same time?! In fact, the menu I offered as a substitute for a single cup of bulletproof coffee does *exactly* that.

The fact is, there are risk factors for many different kinds of foods... sugar probably being the worst for you, then processed carbs with all the natural fibers removed... probably followed by nasty artificial stuff such as hydrogenated fats and the like. But after that, you have meat, dairy, and saturated fats, all of which have been shown to be linked with cancer and heart disease.

So, yeah... eating just meat, dairy, and butter will be better for you than eating that diet with processed sugars and carbs. There's good evidence that combining fats with processed sugars and carbs creates foods that are nearly addictive in nature, yet fail to satiate you. However, the BBC did a documentary with two twins recently, one who went on a low-fat, high sugar diet, while the other went on a high fat, low sugar diet. After a month, the person on the high fat diet was pre-diabetic, and tested worse on both physical and mental exercises, while the person who was high-sugar did substantially better... for a person on a high sugar diet.

It's just plain bad science to assume that the failure of society to lose weight based on additional low-fat, high sugar products being available is in any way a recommendation for a high-fat, high-meat diet. Likewise, it's bad science to think that losing weight is the only measurement that counts, especially when you are eating a diet that could make you into a diabetic with heart problems. What we *do* know is that eating a minimally processed diet with low caloric, high water density, lots of natural fiber, and lots of nutrients is, as a general rule, good for you. In fact, if you get rid of the processed carbs and the animal products, it has been shown to reverse heart disease.

That's why a heart-healthy vegan diet with few-to-no added fats, sugars, or processed carbs has attracted former heart patients like Bill Clinton, someone who can get the best medical and dietary treatment in the world. Likewise, it has attracted people such as Samuel L. Jackson... who is looking pretty lean in his lederhosen for a 65 -year-old. Atkins proponents can talk about weight loss, in the same way that those espousing high sugar diets can... but what they haven't shown is that they can completely reverse things like diabetes and heart disease.

So, really, it all depends what you want. If you want bacon more than anything else, Atkins sounds nice. But if you want a life geared towards heart health, with a lower chance for cancer to boot, try something more like an Esselstyn or Ornish diet. And if you want some smoked salmon or a slice of bacon on your Ezekiel bread BLT now and then... go ahead. You've earned it. Just don't make it a regular thing, or you will lose a lot of the benefits you'd ordinarily accrue.

As for me, I know it's helped. (Hey, look, collarbones... and no palpitations!) I only hope that by the time I hit 49, I'll have as sexy a midrift as this 49-year-old vegan.
posted by markkraft at 6:37 PM on October 18, 2014 [2 favorites]


As for the calories in the coffee, I didn't look up the precise calories, but rather I was going by the general number of calories in that much fat. Basically, whether we are talking about around 500 calories or 700 calories depends upon how closely someone measures out their portion sizes.

Most people, frankly, do not closely measure all their portion sizes, and generally consume considerably more calories than they think... so yes, if you make a point of always using a knife to level off those scoops of coconut oil and that powdered mix, and always cut your butter directly upon the lines on the package, then you will be in the 500 calorie range and not closer to the 700 calorie range I suggested. How many percent of people taking bulletproof coffee do you think do this, each and every time, though?

The thing about my diet, though... I feel liberated, because I don't have to count calories, period. After years of trying various diets -- including Atkins -- this is a pretty wonderful thing. I don't worry about portion control. Rather, I concern myself more about making sure that my meals start with -- or are heavily based on -- foods without a lot of caloric density. If anything, I need to make a point of getting a little extra as far as healthier carbs and proteins, especially when I am going on long hikes and the like.

So yeah, you can live in the real world, and eat foods that just plain work for you... or you can lock yourself into a measured, portioned diet and hope your willpower holds out. Either way though, you will have to cut certain types of food out of your diet that aren't good for you.
posted by markkraft at 6:55 PM on October 18, 2014 [1 favorite]


" Your favorite diet sucks. "

Everyone's an expert on their own body but not anyone else's. People's critiques of the way I eat have no effect on me, as it should be for me, and for them as well. Carry on.
posted by the webmistress at 7:57 AM on October 19, 2014 [4 favorites]


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