Saint Stephen with a rose / in and out of the garden he goes
July 3, 2015 5:31 PM Subscribe
I'm watching it on DISH PPV for $30, and enjoying the fuck out of it so far.
It must be so strange to be Trey, playing on stage with THAT BAND for THESE CONCERTS.
They're in good form so far. I'm looking forward to how the evening unfolds.
posted by hippybear at 5:58 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
It must be so strange to be Trey, playing on stage with THAT BAND for THESE CONCERTS.
They're in good form so far. I'm looking forward to how the evening unfolds.
posted by hippybear at 5:58 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
Will you come with me? Won't you come with me?
posted by parki at 6:02 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by parki at 6:02 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
They can call it The Grateful Dead but Anastasio is no Garcia and the Dead without Jerry is not the Grateful Dead.
posted by octothorpe at 6:02 PM on July 3, 2015 [15 favorites]
posted by octothorpe at 6:02 PM on July 3, 2015 [15 favorites]
If the thunder don't getcha then the lightning will (chorus sung just now)
posted by hippybear at 6:03 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by hippybear at 6:03 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
Does that include the Cadillac?
posted by thelonius at 6:04 PM on July 3, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by thelonius at 6:04 PM on July 3, 2015 [3 favorites]
I remember complaining in high school that Dead tickets were $20 instead of the usually $10-15 for other concerts. I guess that's the 80s version of phosphates at the corner drugstore only costing a nickel.
posted by bibliowench at 6:08 PM on July 3, 2015 [6 favorites]
posted by bibliowench at 6:08 PM on July 3, 2015 [6 favorites]
I'm jealous! you ol hippy
posted by growabrain at 6:09 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by growabrain at 6:09 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
(and since I didn't go, I posted this ad on craigslist. Man, I got about 15 serious emails back, including one from a Jim who said that he can turn it around and use it at his pet cemetery, and to call him)
posted by growabrain at 6:13 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by growabrain at 6:13 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
I remember complaining in high school that Dead tickets were $20 instead of the usually $10-15 for other concerts.
I remember when the Eagles Hell Freezes Over crossed the $50 barrier and it was major news everywhere for a couple of days. Pre-internet, even.
posted by hippybear at 6:16 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
I remember when the Eagles Hell Freezes Over crossed the $50 barrier and it was major news everywhere for a couple of days. Pre-internet, even.
posted by hippybear at 6:16 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
ANY money spent w/ your dad is worth that time 1000x....
In other words, time with family is time you will treasure long after the iphone and Lexus has died.
Well worth it...clap clap clap clap clap clap
GOOD SON!!!
posted by shockingbluamp at 6:20 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
In other words, time with family is time you will treasure long after the iphone and Lexus has died.
Well worth it...clap clap clap clap clap clap
GOOD SON!!!
posted by shockingbluamp at 6:20 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
Saw the Saturday show in Santa Clara. The band is in excellent form and Trey sounded great. Highly recommended if you can make it.
posted by doctor_negative at 6:32 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by doctor_negative at 6:32 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
I believe they opened with that tonight...
posted by hippybear at 6:35 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by hippybear at 6:35 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
Set I: Box of Rain, Jack Straw, Bertha, Passenger, The Wheel^ > Crazy Fingers > The Music Never Stopped (via)
posted by hippybear at 6:37 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by hippybear at 6:37 PM on July 3, 2015
They did, dang Jack Straw... not sure I can listen to this.
posted by daniel9223 at 6:37 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by daniel9223 at 6:37 PM on July 3, 2015
Oh wow.
posted by daniel9223 at 6:38 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by daniel9223 at 6:38 PM on July 3, 2015
"Box Of Rain" was played at the first Dead show I saw (Fox Theater in Atlanta in, I think, October 1986) and my Deadhead friends were all excited because, it seems, the band had not played it in many years.
That was a great concert. It's funny - I saw the Dead maybe 5 times, which would make me a big fan of most acts, but, of course, a dilettante by Deadhead standards.
posted by thelonius at 6:39 PM on July 3, 2015 [4 favorites]
That was a great concert. It's funny - I saw the Dead maybe 5 times, which would make me a big fan of most acts, but, of course, a dilettante by Deadhead standards.
posted by thelonius at 6:39 PM on July 3, 2015 [4 favorites]
I saw the show in Santa Clara last weekend. Take me back. Now I wish I was in Chicago.
posted by So You're Saying These Are Pants? at 6:40 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by So You're Saying These Are Pants? at 6:40 PM on July 3, 2015
Trey was ripping on jack straw. Enjoying the show so far.
posted by jenkinsEar at 6:46 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by jenkinsEar at 6:46 PM on July 3, 2015
I wish I saw the Dead more, but I have a Mickey Hart cymbal mallet that I got from a stage hand at a Rhythm Devils show that I cherish.
posted by Rob Rockets at 6:56 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by Rob Rockets at 6:56 PM on July 3, 2015
The Netflix documentary on Bob Weir and the Dead is available if you're playing along at home.
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 6:57 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 6:57 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
Saw both shows in Santa Clara, Saturday's with doctor_negative and some other friends. Even though I had "no expectations" about the playing, they were far better than I was expecting them to be.
I have a big rollout at work this weekend and could not have made the Chicago shows regardless, so I am very happy these were as satisfying as they were.
I could write a lot about what this band and this event mean to me, but instead I'll just say that the Santa Clara shows were more joyous and fulfilling than I was expecting, and that has helped a lot. The boys are going out with their heads held high. They Are Doing This Right, and that makes me very happy.
Fare you well, indeed.
posted by mosk at 7:00 PM on July 3, 2015 [4 favorites]
I have a big rollout at work this weekend and could not have made the Chicago shows regardless, so I am very happy these were as satisfying as they were.
I could write a lot about what this band and this event mean to me, but instead I'll just say that the Santa Clara shows were more joyous and fulfilling than I was expecting, and that has helped a lot. The boys are going out with their heads held high. They Are Doing This Right, and that makes me very happy.
Fare you well, indeed.
posted by mosk at 7:00 PM on July 3, 2015 [4 favorites]
The show on the 27th must have been mind blowing.
posted by daniel9223 at 7:03 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by daniel9223 at 7:03 PM on July 3, 2015
> The show on the 27th must have been mind blowing.
Yeah, it was a dream setlist to this Deadhead, and they played it pretty damn well. They took chances -- there were some misses and some first night miscues, but given that this is the Dead we're talking about, nothing too egregious. There were some very beautiful, special moments -- my favorite was a wonderful, delicate passage just before the second verse of Dark Star, when Trey restated the DS melody in a way that was both Garcia-esque and also entirely his own - that had me crying. And the set-closing Dew was a monster. Good times, good times :)
posted by mosk at 7:13 PM on July 3, 2015 [7 favorites]
Yeah, it was a dream setlist to this Deadhead, and they played it pretty damn well. They took chances -- there were some misses and some first night miscues, but given that this is the Dead we're talking about, nothing too egregious. There were some very beautiful, special moments -- my favorite was a wonderful, delicate passage just before the second verse of Dark Star, when Trey restated the DS melody in a way that was both Garcia-esque and also entirely his own - that had me crying. And the set-closing Dew was a monster. Good times, good times :)
posted by mosk at 7:13 PM on July 3, 2015 [7 favorites]
Good times mosk - thanks for sharing that. When I saw that set list I felt better about how much I am spending to see them tomorrow. The 27th is my dream set list too.
posted by daniel9223 at 7:18 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by daniel9223 at 7:18 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
I haven't seen the Grateful Dead since 1969.
posted by kozad at 7:24 PM on July 3, 2015 [8 favorites]
posted by kozad at 7:24 PM on July 3, 2015 [8 favorites]
The Dead without Garcia aren't the Dead--I think everyone who knows the music at all knows that--but the Santa Clara shows were good, and the first set of tonight's show melted some faces, Anastasio in particular.
The vocals are what you'd expect from 70-year-old former hardcore drug addicts, and the playing is what you'd expect from 70-year-old Grateful Dead alumni. There's a reason none of them have broken through with their own non-Dead projects; that said, there's a reason the Dead were one of the all-time great American bands.
Even past their prime, they're unquestionably worth hearing. Especially for free. (Ask around.)
posted by waxbanks at 7:26 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
The vocals are what you'd expect from 70-year-old former hardcore drug addicts, and the playing is what you'd expect from 70-year-old Grateful Dead alumni. There's a reason none of them have broken through with their own non-Dead projects; that said, there's a reason the Dead were one of the all-time great American bands.
Even past their prime, they're unquestionably worth hearing. Especially for free. (Ask around.)
posted by waxbanks at 7:26 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
And yet you've had plenty of opportunity, I'm sure. I mean, just even statistically.
posted by hippybear at 7:26 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by hippybear at 7:26 PM on July 3, 2015
Had a blast in Santa Clara. Enjoying tonight from the couch with the youtube stream and a glass of wine. Bring on the second set!
posted by casaubon at 7:32 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by casaubon at 7:32 PM on July 3, 2015
Technically, they aren't the grateful dead since pigpen died. /pedant
That said, I wish I was there. I'd joked around at work that if I'd been able to score tickets I'd have sold them to pay off student loans.
I can't even afford to stream the shows.
posted by schyler523 at 7:39 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
That said, I wish I was there. I'd joked around at work that if I'd been able to score tickets I'd have sold them to pay off student loans.
I can't even afford to stream the shows.
posted by schyler523 at 7:39 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
Seeing them without Jerry would probably just make me cry and cry. Hell, I'm misting up a little just thinking about it.
posted by palmcorder_yajna at 7:42 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by palmcorder_yajna at 7:42 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
Trey takes lead vocal for the first time on Scarlet Begonias and look like he's having an out of body experience.
posted by hippybear at 7:47 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by hippybear at 7:47 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
Listening to the trusty old 5-8-77 to get me through till it's up for free somewhere.
posted by schyler523 at 7:52 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by schyler523 at 7:52 PM on July 3, 2015
The Warlocks were never really the same without Pete Wanger and Wayne Ott.
Phish wasn't really Phish after Jeff Holdsworth left.
posted by crazylegs at 7:54 PM on July 3, 2015 [3 favorites]
Phish wasn't really Phish after Jeff Holdsworth left.
posted by crazylegs at 7:54 PM on July 3, 2015 [3 favorites]
Ah, yes, he did. I was wandering around the house doing a few things during that set.
posted by hippybear at 7:54 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by hippybear at 7:54 PM on July 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
oh my god Shakedown Street is one of the worst albums ever released by any band of any era. i've never heard those bonus tracks but they should have just released the Lowell George version of Good Lovin' instead of that stinker, original lead track. Bobby's singing is so cringe inducing throughout and its really just a precursor to the whole of the 80's when he somehow thought he was a falsetto. i still get shame shivers and can't hear anyone sing Midnight Hour without the picture of looking up at him in cutoffs and that lavender polo shirt yelling "heeeyy" and jerking his chin up every two minutes.
i really wish i'd gone to the Santa Clara show, because that i could afford; more just to see old friends in the crowd than the people on the stage.
posted by Conrad-Casserole at 8:09 PM on July 3, 2015 [5 favorites]
i really wish i'd gone to the Santa Clara show, because that i could afford; more just to see old friends in the crowd than the people on the stage.
posted by Conrad-Casserole at 8:09 PM on July 3, 2015 [5 favorites]
"that lavender polo shirt"
heh, I remember it being more pink but Google shows you are right.
posted by daniel9223 at 8:43 PM on July 3, 2015
heh, I remember it being more pink but Google shows you are right.
posted by daniel9223 at 8:43 PM on July 3, 2015
Set II: Mason’s Children, Scarlet Begonias > Fire on the Mountain > Drums > Space > New Potato Caboose > Playing in the Band% > Space > Let It Grow > Help on the Way > Slipknot! > Franklin’s Tower
posted by hippybear at 9:20 PM on July 3, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by hippybear at 9:20 PM on July 3, 2015 [3 favorites]
I guess Brokedown is the encore.
posted by daniel9223 at 9:23 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by daniel9223 at 9:23 PM on July 3, 2015
Ripple. One of my favorites. Was hoping to hear it Sunday... Oh well it's beautiful.
posted by holybagel at 9:28 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by holybagel at 9:28 PM on July 3, 2015 [2 favorites]
How does that site know!?! "% – jam had a “West LA Fadeaway” vibe and got really out there"
posted by daniel9223 at 9:31 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by daniel9223 at 9:31 PM on July 3, 2015
I think whoever writes it is scanning twitter and is aggregating the big picture into what gets posted.
posted by hippybear at 9:37 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by hippybear at 9:37 PM on July 3, 2015
But they had the comment about this jam up for an hour. Here it is! The way out West LA Fadeaway vibe.
posted by daniel9223 at 9:42 PM on July 3, 2015
posted by daniel9223 at 9:42 PM on July 3, 2015
Fascinated by this run, and glad in a way that they are capturing all the good and bad of the Dead.
6/27 was an amazing, inspired setlist as noted. 6/28 was almost a parody of how bad they got. "Alabama Getaway"? Seriously?
Looks like the plan was first night, 1960s, second night, 1980s, tonight, 1970s. So 4th show - 1990s? and 5th show = ????
Trey Anastasio is OK, though I would have preferred Greg Allman. But that's sort of an alternate history, not the world as it turned out.
Songs like "Wharf Rat" and "Morning Dew" remind me how much heart Jerry Garcia had as a singer. Everyone else sounds stilted compared to his yearning.
Now I'm just hoping for a hard-rocking "Easy Wind" in one of the last two shows.
posted by msalt at 1:51 AM on July 4, 2015 [1 favorite]
6/27 was an amazing, inspired setlist as noted. 6/28 was almost a parody of how bad they got. "Alabama Getaway"? Seriously?
Looks like the plan was first night, 1960s, second night, 1980s, tonight, 1970s. So 4th show - 1990s? and 5th show = ????
Trey Anastasio is OK, though I would have preferred Greg Allman. But that's sort of an alternate history, not the world as it turned out.
Songs like "Wharf Rat" and "Morning Dew" remind me how much heart Jerry Garcia had as a singer. Everyone else sounds stilted compared to his yearning.
Now I'm just hoping for a hard-rocking "Easy Wind" in one of the last two shows.
posted by msalt at 1:51 AM on July 4, 2015 [1 favorite]
"Alabama Getaway"? Seriously?
What I always cringed at were the Buddy Holly covers.
posted by thelonius at 5:26 AM on July 4, 2015
What I always cringed at were the Buddy Holly covers.
posted by thelonius at 5:26 AM on July 4, 2015
Does that include the Cadillac?
Some dude on NPR updated it to a Tesla.
posted by box at 5:28 AM on July 4, 2015 [3 favorites]
Some dude on NPR updated it to a Tesla.
posted by box at 5:28 AM on July 4, 2015 [3 favorites]
I. MISS. JERRY.
posted by mikelieman at 8:05 AM on July 4, 2015 [5 favorites]
posted by mikelieman at 8:05 AM on July 4, 2015 [5 favorites]
With that said, I'm using tonight's show as an excuse to go hang out with some old FRIENDS. Which is what the entire tour ecosystem was really for, anyway.
posted by mikelieman at 8:06 AM on July 4, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by mikelieman at 8:06 AM on July 4, 2015 [2 favorites]
What I always cringed at were the Buddy Holly covers.
Seriously? Not Fade Away is an absolute staple...
posted by holybagel at 8:52 AM on July 4, 2015 [3 favorites]
I always loved Not Fade Away, it was the Chuck Berry covers that I never liked much.
posted by octothorpe at 9:19 AM on July 4, 2015
posted by octothorpe at 9:19 AM on July 4, 2015
holybagel, I just thought it really sounded sad with the kind of flabby boogie beat that they brought to it
posted by thelonius at 12:03 PM on July 4, 2015
posted by thelonius at 12:03 PM on July 4, 2015
I always loved Not Fade Away, it was the Chuck Berry covers that I never liked much.
I don't think those worked very well either. As I said though, I came back; it wasn't like this was a deal-breaker for me. I only saw one show that I'd say was bad, and that was in '95. Garcia probably shouldn't have been on the road.
posted by thelonius at 12:05 PM on July 4, 2015
I don't think those worked very well either. As I said though, I came back; it wasn't like this was a deal-breaker for me. I only saw one show that I'd say was bad, and that was in '95. Garcia probably shouldn't have been on the road.
posted by thelonius at 12:05 PM on July 4, 2015
I am into the Dead at all, but the opportunity to see them on June 28th in Santa Clara presented itself so I took it. I really enjoyed the first set; by the second set it was chilly and making my back pain act up so I was in a less-than-optimal mood. Nevertheless, I couldn't help but feel a little sad--there really was a sense of community and being part of something bigger, and I wished I could've experienced what they were like in their heyday, and man, here I am finally getting into the Grateful Dead at one of their very last shows. Plus, Bruce Hornsby is one of America's greatest piano players; it would have been hard for me to be disappointed after getting to see him.
posted by DrAmerica at 12:16 PM on July 4, 2015
posted by DrAmerica at 12:16 PM on July 4, 2015
Is this something I need an attention span for a 20 minute song to understand?
posted by NikitaNikita at 1:36 AM on July 5, 2015
posted by NikitaNikita at 1:36 AM on July 5, 2015
Real magic would've been to have had The Cowsills open.
posted by Chitownfats at 9:54 AM on July 5, 2015
posted by Chitownfats at 9:54 AM on July 5, 2015
I actually did meet people in Palo Alto, 25 years ago, who disdained the band post-Warlocks
posted by thelonius at 7:47 AM on July 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by thelonius at 7:47 AM on July 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
I do feel like the band peaked around 1977 and were on a long slow decline after that. I kind of wish that Jerry had quit around '85 or so and concentrated on JGB, Garcia and Grisman and his various other side projects. I've been listening to a JGB recording from 1987 and he sounds so much more happy and engaged than he was in later GD recordings.
I remember reading an interview with him in the early nineties where he talked bout the Greatful Dead organization being something that you couldn't easily shutdown and that they had to keep touring to keep the machine running.
posted by octothorpe at 8:03 AM on July 6, 2015
I remember reading an interview with him in the early nineties where he talked bout the Greatful Dead organization being something that you couldn't easily shutdown and that they had to keep touring to keep the machine running.
posted by octothorpe at 8:03 AM on July 6, 2015
I'm more of the "peaked in 71-72" opinion, valuing grittiness, muscle and pith as I do.
73 and 77 were a lower, secondary peak in a new and interesting direction, but GAWD the noodliness was out of control and Donna Godchaux's wailing ruined many an otherwise fine performance. Has anyone designed a DonnaFilter that surgically removes her from recordings?
posted by msalt at 12:29 AM on July 8, 2015
73 and 77 were a lower, secondary peak in a new and interesting direction, but GAWD the noodliness was out of control and Donna Godchaux's wailing ruined many an otherwise fine performance. Has anyone designed a DonnaFilter that surgically removes her from recordings?
posted by msalt at 12:29 AM on July 8, 2015
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