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September 19, 2015 6:29 PM Subscribe
Evan Puschak, aka The Nerdwriter, watches Children of Men and asks us to not ignore the background
He looks at (among others):
The Flipside of Modernity in Blade Runner
Identity in Space in Ghost In The Shell
The Cinema of Excess in The Wolf of Wall Street
He looks at (among others):
The Flipside of Modernity in Blade Runner
Identity in Space in Ghost In The Shell
The Cinema of Excess in The Wolf of Wall Street
I noticed this on my first watch through. To the point I was so distracted I didn't even really remember the story. The point at which it kicks in for most people is the King crimson sequence, but for me I just locked on to the 50s Disney backgrounds.
There's like a Kubrick amount of detail in that movie. I notice new stuff every time I watch it.
posted by emptythought at 6:58 PM on September 19, 2015 [9 favorites]
There's like a Kubrick amount of detail in that movie. I notice new stuff every time I watch it.
posted by emptythought at 6:58 PM on September 19, 2015 [9 favorites]
That was surprisingly accessible analysis. Thanks!
CoM is one of my favorite films, and I agree with you, ryanshepherd, about it presaging the future of both the U.S. and UK. I think that believable image of the near future is what makes the movie so easy to get into. There's very little in it that your mind strongly rejects as not plausible. That's pretty scary when you think about it.
posted by Thorzdad at 7:19 PM on September 19, 2015 [9 favorites]
CoM is one of my favorite films, and I agree with you, ryanshepherd, about it presaging the future of both the U.S. and UK. I think that believable image of the near future is what makes the movie so easy to get into. There's very little in it that your mind strongly rejects as not plausible. That's pretty scary when you think about it.
posted by Thorzdad at 7:19 PM on September 19, 2015 [9 favorites]
This was great. I'm probably going to have to have a rewatch tonight. Might be Clive Owen's best, though Inside Job is a great favorite too.
posted by Lyn Never at 7:19 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Lyn Never at 7:19 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
CoM never clicked for me, despite all the pieces being great. The plot was just so ridiculous it was hard to take it all seriously.
Wonderfully shot and acted though.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:24 PM on September 19, 2015
Wonderfully shot and acted though.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:24 PM on September 19, 2015
One of my favorite movies. I watched this a while ago and I once again felt compelled to watch it.
posted by gucci mane at 7:30 PM on September 19, 2015
posted by gucci mane at 7:30 PM on September 19, 2015
I found the dystopian plot to be boring and a bit predictable. The background is what made the movie watchable. Even though it was pretty much reality as we see it, But then, all the best sci-fi is.
posted by evilDoug at 7:38 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by evilDoug at 7:38 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
One of my all-time favorite films. This is a really great overview of some of what makes it such an impressive piece of art to me. Always wished it had reached a wider audience. My wife and I went out to see this on our first date after our son was born, and that long, single tracking-shot battlefield scene was so tense and kicked our overprotective new parent instincts into such high gear, we put off the dinner plans we had made for after the movie and rushed home immediately to check on our son. The power and high drama of that scene alone made the film one of the most intense movie going experiences I've ever had.
posted by saulgoodman at 7:45 PM on September 19, 2015 [17 favorites]
posted by saulgoodman at 7:45 PM on September 19, 2015 [17 favorites]
While the core of the plot is a little absurd, Children of Men deserves more respect for capturing what is very likely the look-and-feel of the future of the US and UK - not slick sci fi, but a dirtier, threadbare and even more chaotic version of the present. Its attention to small details is impressive.
That's all from the book, which is brilliant. I never watched the film - one of those times I had no desire to see a book changed.
posted by jb at 7:50 PM on September 19, 2015
That's all from the book, which is brilliant. I never watched the film - one of those times I had no desire to see a book changed.
posted by jb at 7:50 PM on September 19, 2015
Also the central conceit and plot works very well in the book.
posted by jb at 7:51 PM on September 19, 2015
posted by jb at 7:51 PM on September 19, 2015
That was a really good video, and CoM is a really good movie.
But here's what I always say about it: Its version of dystopia is imagined by artists that have apparently never stepped foot in an economics class. Its vision -- that a depopulation crisis would lead to rampant xenophobia -- is completely upside down.
In a world where you aren't making new people, then people would steadily become the most valuable resource of all.
One doesn't have to look very hard to find real-world examples. There are many countries right now with very low or even negative population growth, such as Russia, Scandinavian countries and Japan. And while they may throttle immigration for various reasons, they give enormous tax breaks to encourage native births, or even simply pay women to have babies.
There was even the satire A Day Without a Mexican that pretty much pointed out the same fact -- people are useful, yo.
CoM is fiction, of course, and they can imagine whatever they want. I know the X-Men superpowers don't make sense, but I enjoy the movies anyway. But CoM is like watching a version of Titanic where the ship doesn't sink and they all live happily ever after. It ... just ... doesn't ... compute.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 8:03 PM on September 19, 2015 [12 favorites]
But here's what I always say about it: Its version of dystopia is imagined by artists that have apparently never stepped foot in an economics class. Its vision -- that a depopulation crisis would lead to rampant xenophobia -- is completely upside down.
In a world where you aren't making new people, then people would steadily become the most valuable resource of all.
One doesn't have to look very hard to find real-world examples. There are many countries right now with very low or even negative population growth, such as Russia, Scandinavian countries and Japan. And while they may throttle immigration for various reasons, they give enormous tax breaks to encourage native births, or even simply pay women to have babies.
There was even the satire A Day Without a Mexican that pretty much pointed out the same fact -- people are useful, yo.
CoM is fiction, of course, and they can imagine whatever they want. I know the X-Men superpowers don't make sense, but I enjoy the movies anyway. But CoM is like watching a version of Titanic where the ship doesn't sink and they all live happily ever after. It ... just ... doesn't ... compute.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 8:03 PM on September 19, 2015 [12 favorites]
My appreciation for the film's central conceit was vitiated by my inability to see the possible extinction of humanity (or at least severe paring of overpopulation) as a bad thing. It always seemed like a stealth right-to-life treatise to me.
posted by Captain l'escalier at 8:05 PM on September 19, 2015 [4 favorites]
posted by Captain l'escalier at 8:05 PM on September 19, 2015 [4 favorites]
There are many countries right now with very low or even negative population growth, such as Russia, Scandinavian countries and Japan. And while they may throttle immigration for various reasons, they give enormous tax breaks to encourage native births, or even simply pay women to have babies.
Wouldn't the fact that they throttle immigration while encourage people born in the right place be better evidence for Xenophobia than not?
posted by Gygesringtone at 8:08 PM on September 19, 2015 [30 favorites]
Wouldn't the fact that they throttle immigration while encourage people born in the right place be better evidence for Xenophobia than not?
posted by Gygesringtone at 8:08 PM on September 19, 2015 [30 favorites]
In a world where you aren't making new people, then people would steadily become the most valuable resource of all.
That's assuming that people and governments are rational.
posted by octothorpe at 8:13 PM on September 19, 2015 [13 favorites]
That's assuming that people and governments are rational.
posted by octothorpe at 8:13 PM on September 19, 2015 [13 favorites]
Its version of dystopia is imagined by artists that have apparently never stepped foot in an economics class. Its vision -- that a depopulation crisis would lead to rampant xenophobia -- is completely upside down.
You've heard the old saw that booze doesn't make you into a different person, it just unleashes the one that's already in there but that our sober mind manages to keep down, right? That's what most dystopias (especially single-crisis dystopias) are predicated on: the idea that the human race is essentially alcoholic. The crisis didn't lead to xenophobia, it just allowed our basic xenophobia to come out and play, regardless of how "logical" it was.
In a world where you aren't making new people, then people would steadily become the most valuable resource of all.... they give enormous tax breaks to encourage native births, or even simply pay women to have babies.
But when you can't make new babies -- when it looks that the human race is doomed and has looked like that for, what, twenty years? -- then xenophobia, in the form of pulling into one's proverbial shell and just sort of hunkering down with what resources you have, isn't totally illogical.
posted by Etrigan at 8:16 PM on September 19, 2015 [25 favorites]
You've heard the old saw that booze doesn't make you into a different person, it just unleashes the one that's already in there but that our sober mind manages to keep down, right? That's what most dystopias (especially single-crisis dystopias) are predicated on: the idea that the human race is essentially alcoholic. The crisis didn't lead to xenophobia, it just allowed our basic xenophobia to come out and play, regardless of how "logical" it was.
In a world where you aren't making new people, then people would steadily become the most valuable resource of all.... they give enormous tax breaks to encourage native births, or even simply pay women to have babies.
But when you can't make new babies -- when it looks that the human race is doomed and has looked like that for, what, twenty years? -- then xenophobia, in the form of pulling into one's proverbial shell and just sort of hunkering down with what resources you have, isn't totally illogical.
posted by Etrigan at 8:16 PM on September 19, 2015 [25 favorites]
I agree with the comments above about humans just not being as rational as the population economics would suggest they should be. When people feel threatened by global catastrophe, the first thing they're going to hunker down to try to protect is their sense of identity. Christian apocalyptic theologies, for example, also tend to be closely associated with racial and ethnic purist thinking.
posted by saulgoodman at 8:26 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by saulgoodman at 8:26 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
I assumed the reason for the closed borders and xenophobia was the collapse of other world governments and rampant global conflict. In that context, I had no problem buying the dystopian vision. Like Etrigan says, it's not so irrational to preserve what resources and security you have once the world is headed to hell in a handbasket.
Anyway, Children of Men is my favorite movie, for a lot of reasons, but this video points out a few of them. I love the roving camera the video points out, the wealth of detail in the worldbuilding. This is a movie that's full of small details, but it never gets lost in those details. It's still a pretty people-focused movie, and it's a deeply humane movie. It's not a movie that's lost hope in people.
posted by yasaman at 8:34 PM on September 19, 2015 [9 favorites]
Anyway, Children of Men is my favorite movie, for a lot of reasons, but this video points out a few of them. I love the roving camera the video points out, the wealth of detail in the worldbuilding. This is a movie that's full of small details, but it never gets lost in those details. It's still a pretty people-focused movie, and it's a deeply humane movie. It's not a movie that's lost hope in people.
posted by yasaman at 8:34 PM on September 19, 2015 [9 favorites]
Also I just pulled out my DVD to watch and apparently there's a commentary track with Slavoj Zizek?? How did I never notice this! Has anyone watched it with the commentary?
posted by yasaman at 8:47 PM on September 19, 2015 [8 favorites]
posted by yasaman at 8:47 PM on September 19, 2015 [8 favorites]
CoM is my absolute favorite kind of sci-fi -- storied that take a very simple idea (absurd or not) and completely run away with it. Stranger in a Strange Land, Moon, and The City and the City are all other examples, and are some of my favorite works of fiction. I am not sure if there is a name for that style though -- conceptual? Concept-driven?
posted by miyabo at 8:55 PM on September 19, 2015
posted by miyabo at 8:55 PM on September 19, 2015
The closed borders are explained in the movie and it is that the refugees are terrorists.
posted by borges at 9:13 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by borges at 9:13 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
the refugees are terrorists.
That's from the movie or this week's top Facebook posts?
I like the idea that dystopias show alcoholic humanity.
posted by Nonsteroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drug at 9:21 PM on September 19, 2015 [5 favorites]
That's from the movie or this week's top Facebook posts?
I like the idea that dystopias show alcoholic humanity.
posted by Nonsteroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drug at 9:21 PM on September 19, 2015 [5 favorites]
Children of Men may be my all time favorite movie. The central premise isn't plausible, but it's no less plausible than faster than light space travel, and that doesn't stop me from liking Star Trek. If you suspend disbelief of unexplained global infertility, everything that follows seems completely credible. Turning people away at the border even though birth rates are below replacement levels? It's happening in Europe right now.
And the attention to detail and world building is phenomenal. I almost wish there were a sequel, but that would ruin the story.
(Spoilers, in case it matters for a movie that came out in 2006.) Whether the end of the movie is hopeful or despairing is ambiguous. I like the happy interpretation because of a stealth pun: Theo's final act was to bring the girl to the buoy. I don't even know if Alfonso Cuaron intended it that way, but I'm sticking with it.
posted by Loudmax at 9:34 PM on September 19, 2015 [10 favorites]
And the attention to detail and world building is phenomenal. I almost wish there were a sequel, but that would ruin the story.
(Spoilers, in case it matters for a movie that came out in 2006.) Whether the end of the movie is hopeful or despairing is ambiguous. I like the happy interpretation because of a stealth pun: Theo's final act was to bring the girl to the buoy. I don't even know if Alfonso Cuaron intended it that way, but I'm sticking with it.
posted by Loudmax at 9:34 PM on September 19, 2015 [10 favorites]
That's from the movie or this week's top Facebook posts?
I think the background story shows the society getting more repressive and brutal with the refugees, culminating in the closing of the borders. It's implied that the Fishes might be responsible, the government itself, and perhaps The Human Project. The media blames the refugees and you can some of that in the newspaper headlines that appear throughout the movie.
posted by borges at 9:45 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
I think the background story shows the society getting more repressive and brutal with the refugees, culminating in the closing of the borders. It's implied that the Fishes might be responsible, the government itself, and perhaps The Human Project. The media blames the refugees and you can some of that in the newspaper headlines that appear throughout the movie.
posted by borges at 9:45 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
I was hoping that this video would go a little more into the media and advertisement saturation of the world. While there's great comments on the people in the background (and the reference and later payoff of the Pietà), there are other great things in there like the "spring collection" ads for... dog fashion items.
I also would like to have seen some translation of what the non-English speakers were saying in the background. There was a lot of that, and I'm fairly sure Cuarón have them saying something worth noting.
posted by chimaera at 10:21 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
I also would like to have seen some translation of what the non-English speakers were saying in the background. There was a lot of that, and I'm fairly sure Cuarón have them saying something worth noting.
posted by chimaera at 10:21 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
Whether the end of the movie is hopeful or despairing is ambiguous.
Having just finished my rewatch, I think it's hopeful. [Spoilers!] The sound of children plays over the credits, and sound is a big deal in the movie. (I'm particularly fond of the repeated use of the ringing-in-the-ears sound, which persists past the explosions that cause it.) It's the sound of Kee's baby crying that literally brings people to their knees, and that causes a brief respite in the fighting.
posted by yasaman at 10:26 PM on September 19, 2015 [4 favorites]
Having just finished my rewatch, I think it's hopeful. [Spoilers!] The sound of children plays over the credits, and sound is a big deal in the movie. (I'm particularly fond of the repeated use of the ringing-in-the-ears sound, which persists past the explosions that cause it.) It's the sound of Kee's baby crying that literally brings people to their knees, and that causes a brief respite in the fighting.
posted by yasaman at 10:26 PM on September 19, 2015 [4 favorites]
Oh goddammit I am NOT going to watch your video-only critical analysis of one of my favorite movies even though doing film crit like this is inescapably appropriate. I'm reading MetaFilter on my second screen while the video I am ALREADY WATCHING goes through a boring bit. Someday, someone will do a mashup of Children of Men with Idiocracy where the baby gets dropped into the water by accident.
posted by mwhybark at 10:48 PM on September 19, 2015 [4 favorites]
posted by mwhybark at 10:48 PM on September 19, 2015 [4 favorites]
The Nerdwriter video for the Ghost in the Shell introduced me to the concept of Foucault's Heterotopia . Yay learning!
posted by Popular Ethics at 10:49 PM on September 19, 2015
posted by Popular Ethics at 10:49 PM on September 19, 2015
While you're poring over the background details in Children of Men, you might want to look up Mark Coleran, who designed the user interfaces used in the movie.
posted by Harald74 at 10:50 PM on September 19, 2015 [4 favorites]
posted by Harald74 at 10:50 PM on September 19, 2015 [4 favorites]
I've probably annoyed every co-watcher by constantly pausing CoM to gawk at the environmental design. This old mefi post may have been responsible for highlighting it (outdated link, scroll down).
As such, I remember "GAP for Pets" and prescriptions for suicide more than xenophobia.
posted by unmake at 10:54 PM on September 19, 2015
As such, I remember "GAP for Pets" and prescriptions for suicide more than xenophobia.
posted by unmake at 10:54 PM on September 19, 2015
2006 was overall a pretty great year for film.
posted by shakespeherian at 11:02 PM on September 19, 2015
posted by shakespeherian at 11:02 PM on September 19, 2015
An update: it was not a whole Slavoj Zizek commentary, just a little video segment of Zizek analyzing/praising the movie. He also pointed out the background/foreground thing.
posted by yasaman at 11:36 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by yasaman at 11:36 PM on September 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
Overcooked. I was so distracted by the form (music, cheesy voice) that I couldn't pay attention to the content.
posted by Rich Smorgasbord at 12:22 AM on September 20, 2015
posted by Rich Smorgasbord at 12:22 AM on September 20, 2015
I think this also my favourite film. Aside from the main reproduction plot device, we are well on the way there. I spent this morning reading about Croatia and Hungary reeling under waves of desperate refugees. Soldier on Britain! Stiff upper lip!
posted by Meatbomb at 2:22 AM on September 20, 2015
posted by Meatbomb at 2:22 AM on September 20, 2015
As I recall, they changed some significant things from the book (especially the ending), but I remember not minding at the time I saw it. Both book and film hold up very well on their own.
My favorite detail from the book that didn't make it into the film was a fad of women purchasing lifelike dolls and caring for them as actual infants. They would put them in prams and take them for walks in the park. If they encountered another woman doing the same thing, they would stop and chat and coo over eachother's babies. It was incredible haunting.
posted by AlonzoMosleyFBI at 4:38 AM on September 20, 2015 [4 favorites]
My favorite detail from the book that didn't make it into the film was a fad of women purchasing lifelike dolls and caring for them as actual infants. They would put them in prams and take them for walks in the park. If they encountered another woman doing the same thing, they would stop and chat and coo over eachother's babies. It was incredible haunting.
posted by AlonzoMosleyFBI at 4:38 AM on September 20, 2015 [4 favorites]
The Balkan wars: itself a reference to Michealangelo's work.
posted by paper chromatographologist at 6:27 AM on September 20, 2015
posted by paper chromatographologist at 6:27 AM on September 20, 2015
Fantastic video, and CoM is one of my very favorite movies. I'll never forget the way I felt driving home from the theater the night we saw it - my stomach hurt for hours, because I felt that so much was at stake in that movie.
posted by jbickers at 6:54 AM on September 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by jbickers at 6:54 AM on September 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
I was surprised that a film critic could show the pieta scene (twice) that begins with a flock of sheep crossing the frame and not acknowledge to reference to Bunuel's The Exterminating Angel. That one's pretty obvious and explicit - and horrible if you know Bunuel.
posted by rock swoon has no past at 7:13 AM on September 20, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by rock swoon has no past at 7:13 AM on September 20, 2015 [3 favorites]
I love the book AND the movie, and I think (like AlonzoMosleyFBI) that they both hold up very well on their own. The book is much more of a character study of Theo, whereas the movie obviously focuses on the world outside of Theo. Both are amazing. I'm very, very glad that they went the direction they did with the movie. Ordinarily I can be one of those "THE BOOK IS SACRED THEY DEVIATED FROM THE BOOK BURN THEM" kind of people, but in this case I think that a movie made as a faithfully pure character study would have been kind of dull. The two complement each other very well.
That said, I never want to read it or see the movie again. It's the sort of story that haunts me and although I'm glad that I read it/saw it, I'll be okay if that sort of imagery doesn't enter my mind again. There's enough out there in the real world for me to grapple with.
posted by Elly Vortex at 7:33 AM on September 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
That said, I never want to read it or see the movie again. It's the sort of story that haunts me and although I'm glad that I read it/saw it, I'll be okay if that sort of imagery doesn't enter my mind again. There's enough out there in the real world for me to grapple with.
posted by Elly Vortex at 7:33 AM on September 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
For all the people that claim the premise is too far fetched, contraceptive plagues that render sperm ineffective have been engineered and tested on rabbits in Australia. These were considered somewhat risky since the fertilization inactivating antigen used is conserved among all mammals, which means that humans infected by the rabbit virus (if it jumped species) would also be sterilized. I always assumed this work (done in the 90s and onwards) was part of the inspiration for the book.
posted by benzenedream at 8:11 AM on September 20, 2015 [8 favorites]
posted by benzenedream at 8:11 AM on September 20, 2015 [8 favorites]
Also: Greybeard, by Brian Aldiss (from 1964).
posted by librosegretti at 9:02 AM on September 20, 2015
posted by librosegretti at 9:02 AM on September 20, 2015
Also one of my favorite films, but one that I cannot watch much. It is such a ridiculously plausible extension of current social and political trends that it's hard not to despair. The first time I saw it, I had a pit in my stomach for days. I found the "hopeful" ending not at all reassuring. Incidentally, what brought me out of my Children of Men depression was watching the perfect antidote, Idiocracy, a week later. Nine years later and we have the European refugee crisis and Donald Trump. I dare anyone to say either Cuaron or Judge were off base.
The central problem in the movie may or may not be plausible (the scientist and physician in me thinks it absolutely is easy enough to imagine for the purposes of the drama), but I also think it's a stand in for any slowly progressive catastrophe that everyone knows of and is unable to stop. Climate change, for example, without the "debate" over whether this is real, or actually bad. The choice to make a lack of children and nurturing motherhood in a hostile world of fear and greed was not accidental.
In my mind, the effect of the wandering camera eye and attention to detail, brings the viewer more intensely into the characters' struggles. It's not like Clive Owen and Michael Caine are unaware of the events around them. We see them ignoring them as best they can so they can struggle and survive and do what they need to, yet we know their decisions must be informed by the same things we are seeing. It creates a tension and immediacy that no other film has ever displayed.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 9:07 AM on September 20, 2015 [3 favorites]
The central problem in the movie may or may not be plausible (the scientist and physician in me thinks it absolutely is easy enough to imagine for the purposes of the drama), but I also think it's a stand in for any slowly progressive catastrophe that everyone knows of and is unable to stop. Climate change, for example, without the "debate" over whether this is real, or actually bad. The choice to make a lack of children and nurturing motherhood in a hostile world of fear and greed was not accidental.
In my mind, the effect of the wandering camera eye and attention to detail, brings the viewer more intensely into the characters' struggles. It's not like Clive Owen and Michael Caine are unaware of the events around them. We see them ignoring them as best they can so they can struggle and survive and do what they need to, yet we know their decisions must be informed by the same things we are seeing. It creates a tension and immediacy that no other film has ever displayed.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 9:07 AM on September 20, 2015 [3 favorites]
It's a favorite of mine as well, but too depressing too watch frequently. The fact that so many people seem to feel that way is probably proof it's a classic.
posted by Ray Walston, Luck Dragon at 10:14 AM on September 20, 2015
posted by Ray Walston, Luck Dragon at 10:14 AM on September 20, 2015
I avoided this movie when it came out because the plot & trailer seemed like a cheesy pro-life 'zombie movie' pitch (Babygeddon!), but this critic & you guys have convinced me to give it a shot. Thanks!
posted by Feyala at 1:20 PM on September 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Feyala at 1:20 PM on September 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
Children of Men is a beautifully crafted remake of American Cyborg: Steel Warrior.
posted by johngoren at 1:42 PM on September 20, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by johngoren at 1:42 PM on September 20, 2015 [2 favorites]
CoM is one of my favorite movies ever made. This video clip was 7.5 minutes worth of "no shit."
posted by sevensixfive at 8:59 PM on September 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by sevensixfive at 8:59 PM on September 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
CoM is one of my favorite movies ever made. This video clip was 7.5 minutes worth of "no shit."
Yeah, it described (quite nicely) what the movie did in very general terms. I was hoping that it would focus in on some more specific details. I did like the investigation into the art-as-life element, but there's certainly a lot more in the movie.
posted by entropone at 6:40 AM on September 21, 2015 [1 favorite]
Yeah, it described (quite nicely) what the movie did in very general terms. I was hoping that it would focus in on some more specific details. I did like the investigation into the art-as-life element, but there's certainly a lot more in the movie.
posted by entropone at 6:40 AM on September 21, 2015 [1 favorite]
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