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March 27, 2017 5:27 PM Subscribe
As repression deepens, Turkish artists and intellectuals fear the worst.
128,398 people have been sacked, while 91,658 are being detained. Turkey Purge logs the daily crackdowns and Human Tragedy.
Artist Zehra Dogan was sentenced to Prison for a Painting of a Kurdish Town Attack.
Meanwhile NATO member Turkey is in a serious diplomatic spat with the Netherlands and sabre rattling with Greece.
128,398 people have been sacked, while 91,658 are being detained. Turkey Purge logs the daily crackdowns and Human Tragedy.
Artist Zehra Dogan was sentenced to Prison for a Painting of a Kurdish Town Attack.
Meanwhile NATO member Turkey is in a serious diplomatic spat with the Netherlands and sabre rattling with Greece.
> Meanwhile NATO member Turkey is in a serious diplomatic spat with the Netherlands and sabre [sic] rattling with Greece.
Not to mention the fact that they've been calling both German and Dutch leaders Nazis any chance they get... I may at this be point slightly disconnected from what's going on in Europe, but I do know that the sense of humor about that kind of shit is limited.
Germany (and I think the Netherlands too) has 3-4% Turkish population... I'm seriously wondering how they're supposed to deal with this crap.
posted by kleinsteradikaleminderheit at 8:49 PM on March 27, 2017 [2 favorites]
Not to mention the fact that they've been calling both German and Dutch leaders Nazis any chance they get... I may at this be point slightly disconnected from what's going on in Europe, but I do know that the sense of humor about that kind of shit is limited.
Germany (and I think the Netherlands too) has 3-4% Turkish population... I'm seriously wondering how they're supposed to deal with this crap.
posted by kleinsteradikaleminderheit at 8:49 PM on March 27, 2017 [2 favorites]
Germany (and I think the Netherlands too) has 3-4% Turkish population... I'm seriously wondering how they're supposed to deal with this crap.
I don't know about Germany, but many Dutch people of Turkish descent are Kurdish, which makes the political picture even more complicated.
posted by atrazine at 3:16 AM on March 28, 2017 [2 favorites]
I don't know about Germany, but many Dutch people of Turkish descent are Kurdish, which makes the political picture even more complicated.
posted by atrazine at 3:16 AM on March 28, 2017 [2 favorites]
Not to mention the fact that they've been calling both German and Dutch leaders Nazis any chance they get...
Mind you, British politicians have been comparing the EU with Nazi POW camps as well.
posted by acb at 5:49 AM on March 28, 2017 [2 favorites]
Mind you, British politicians have been comparing the EU with Nazi POW camps as well.
posted by acb at 5:49 AM on March 28, 2017 [2 favorites]
Germany accuses Turkey of 'intolerable' spying on Gülen supporters
posted by adamvasco at 6:23 AM on March 28, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by adamvasco at 6:23 AM on March 28, 2017 [1 favorite]
This all plays well for Erdogan. He wants the EU to look like the enemy, and he will do all he can to make it seem that he's fighting the good fight for Turks. This puts EU countries in a bind: nobody wants a confrontation (there's plenty else going on, after all), and they know that standing up to Erdogan – even in the most diplomatic terms – will help him politically, so the best bet is to grit teeth until after the referendum.
What's more worrying long-term is how quickly Erdogan's position on Russia has changed. Clearly NATO can't be having a member being too friendly with Putin, but with Trump already calling into question the very nature of NATO, I don't see anything changing any time soon. Let's just hope (and do all we can to convince our representatives) that we don't have any incidents that require NATO involvement while we're in this mess.
posted by mushhushshu at 8:19 AM on March 28, 2017
What's more worrying long-term is how quickly Erdogan's position on Russia has changed. Clearly NATO can't be having a member being too friendly with Putin, but with Trump already calling into question the very nature of NATO, I don't see anything changing any time soon. Let's just hope (and do all we can to convince our representatives) that we don't have any incidents that require NATO involvement while we're in this mess.
posted by mushhushshu at 8:19 AM on March 28, 2017
The Turkish government seems to be throwing their own tourism industry under the bus to retaliate against the Netherlands: Court orders preventive suspension of (Netherlands-based) Booking.com activities in Turkey. After the diplomatic incident with Russia's plane plus the surge of terror attacks of last year, my friends running hotels and pansiyons told me they were settling in for up to five years of breaking even at best. To put this on top could really hurt a lot of Turkish businesses.
posted by daveliepmann at 10:33 PM on March 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by daveliepmann at 10:33 PM on March 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
And so the repression continues.
Turkey arrests 1,000 and suspends 9,100 police in new crackdown.
posted by adamvasco at 8:20 PM on April 26, 2017
Turkey arrests 1,000 and suspends 9,100 police in new crackdown.
posted by adamvasco at 8:20 PM on April 26, 2017
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