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When Dr. Amy Barnhorst decided not to follow up on editorial suggestions and withdrew her submission to the Journal of Health Services Psychology, she thought that was an end to the process. (link to Inside Higher Ed) It thus came as a surprise to her when she saw a nearly identical paper published in the journal, ascribed to the editor with who she'd been corresponding and another apparently unconnected nonacademic.
After a certain amount of stonewalling, the editor-in-chief offered Barnhorst and her collaborator coauthorship credit; her refusal of this offer was, under the circumstances, astonishingly restrained.
Also, on Retraction Watch.
After a certain amount of stonewalling, the editor-in-chief offered Barnhorst and her collaborator coauthorship credit; her refusal of this offer was, under the circumstances, astonishingly restrained.
Also, on Retraction Watch.
As a casual student of history, I always thought past incidence of this mindset was brought up at all because of how strange and rare it was.
But no. 21st century digital news has shown that the mindset that "I want this and will do whatever it takes to do it, fuck anyone else be damned" is actually more common than we would hope.
posted by Reasonably Everything Happens at 11:10 AM on January 29, 2021 [3 favorites]
But no. 21st century digital news has shown that the mindset that "I want this and will do whatever it takes to do it, fuck anyone else be damned" is actually more common than we would hope.
posted by Reasonably Everything Happens at 11:10 AM on January 29, 2021 [3 favorites]
Correction, of course, in the FPP: "collaborating" should be "corresponding". They weren't collaborating, and that's the whole point!
posted by jackbishop at 11:14 AM on January 29, 2021 [4 favorites]
posted by jackbishop at 11:14 AM on January 29, 2021 [4 favorites]
"Amy Barnhorst, MD
@amybarnhorst
Jan 26
OK this thread really blew up and I'm grateful for all the support in comments and DMs, and sorry to hear from so many others who've experience similar.
But please don't dox these guys! I don't know the distribution of responsibility between them, nor how it happened....
26
141
5,683
Amy Barnhorst, MD
@amybarnhorst
Jan 26
...retraction is in progress, Springer is aware, I'm working with an attorney, appropriate legal steps will be taken so they don't have any opportunity to do this again.
It sucks that this happened to me, my colleague, and so many others - let's watch each others' backs!"
Truly scholarly and professional.
posted by firstdaffodils at 11:36 AM on January 29, 2021 [17 favorites]
@amybarnhorst
Jan 26
OK this thread really blew up and I'm grateful for all the support in comments and DMs, and sorry to hear from so many others who've experience similar.
But please don't dox these guys! I don't know the distribution of responsibility between them, nor how it happened....
26
141
5,683
Amy Barnhorst, MD
@amybarnhorst
Jan 26
...retraction is in progress, Springer is aware, I'm working with an attorney, appropriate legal steps will be taken so they don't have any opportunity to do this again.
It sucks that this happened to me, my colleague, and so many others - let's watch each others' backs!"
Truly scholarly and professional.
posted by firstdaffodils at 11:36 AM on January 29, 2021 [17 favorites]
Well here we are again
It's always such a pleasure.
Remember when you plagiarized my work in a trice?
How we laughed and laughed
Only, I wasn't laughing
Under the circumstances, I've been shockingly nice!
posted by Thalience at 12:00 PM on January 29, 2021 [9 favorites]
It's always such a pleasure.
Remember when you plagiarized my work in a trice?
How we laughed and laughed
Only, I wasn't laughing
Under the circumstances, I've been shockingly nice!
posted by Thalience at 12:00 PM on January 29, 2021 [9 favorites]
Well she's considerably more chilled than I would be.
posted by biffa at 12:05 PM on January 29, 2021 [1 favorite]
posted by biffa at 12:05 PM on January 29, 2021 [1 favorite]
"But please don't dox these guys! I don't know the distribution of responsibility between them, nor how it happened...." This is just a pleasure to read, and probably how she's arrived.
posted by firstdaffodils at 12:41 PM on January 29, 2021 [1 favorite]
posted by firstdaffodils at 12:41 PM on January 29, 2021 [1 favorite]
The lengths people will go for tenure in a contracts world never ceases to amaze me.
posted by parmanparman at 12:53 PM on January 29, 2021 [1 favorite]
posted by parmanparman at 12:53 PM on January 29, 2021 [1 favorite]
> Cezar Golescu: "I want to know what the deal with the retired judge is."
Same. Also, what was VandenBos thinking by sending Barhorst a copy of the paper he plagiarized from her? Was it some kind of taunt or bullying? If so, why? How arrogant did he have to be to think this wouldn't blow up in his face? And if not, then what was it? It's totally bizarre to me.
Also, what are the odds that this is the first and only time he's done something like this? Everyone who's ever had him referee and reject one of their papers better be scrolling through his publication record.
posted by mhum at 12:57 PM on January 29, 2021 [9 favorites]
Same. Also, what was VandenBos thinking by sending Barhorst a copy of the paper he plagiarized from her? Was it some kind of taunt or bullying? If so, why? How arrogant did he have to be to think this wouldn't blow up in his face? And if not, then what was it? It's totally bizarre to me.
Also, what are the odds that this is the first and only time he's done something like this? Everyone who's ever had him referee and reject one of their papers better be scrolling through his publication record.
posted by mhum at 12:57 PM on January 29, 2021 [9 favorites]
I want to know what the deal with the retired judge is.
Academic Citations, $500.
posted by mikelieman at 4:33 PM on January 29, 2021
Academic Citations, $500.
posted by mikelieman at 4:33 PM on January 29, 2021
What a demoralizing experience for these academics.
One fun tidbit from the judge’s bio, linked in the Retraction Watch article:
Judge Miller has been active in judicial and attorney ethics. He participated in the revision of the judicial canons of conduct and the ethical rules for attorneys. Judge Miller heard attorney and judicial discipline cases.
posted by slmorri at 5:53 PM on January 29, 2021 [1 favorite]
One fun tidbit from the judge’s bio, linked in the Retraction Watch article:
Judge Miller has been active in judicial and attorney ethics. He participated in the revision of the judicial canons of conduct and the ethical rules for attorneys. Judge Miller heard attorney and judicial discipline cases.
posted by slmorri at 5:53 PM on January 29, 2021 [1 favorite]
It's hilarious that she doesn't dox them, but clearly it was easy for someone else to do it? Anyway, just because she didn't do it, it seems like the buck was well deservedly passed and it happened anyway.
"I want this and will do whatever it takes to do it, fuck anyone else be damned" is actually more common than we would hope."
I think if my gene pool had a family motto a la Game of Thrones, this would be it :P
posted by jenfullmoon at 7:43 PM on January 29, 2021
"I want this and will do whatever it takes to do it, fuck anyone else be damned" is actually more common than we would hope."
I think if my gene pool had a family motto a la Game of Thrones, this would be it :P
posted by jenfullmoon at 7:43 PM on January 29, 2021
Oh my goodness. I am thoroughly delighted at how masterfully Dr. Barnhorst is handling this truly shitty situation.
I don't interpret her actions as chilled, exactly ...
Instead, this is what I imagine white-hot rage and disbelief look like when filtered through the norms of credible academic behavior. Her tone is perfect for absolutely destroying these men while coming out of the situation smelling like roses in a misogynistic world.
(Also -- this plagiarism had nothing to do with tenure -- the plagiarist in question quite senior and has spent decades as an editor.)
posted by Metasyntactic at 9:22 PM on January 29, 2021 [6 favorites]
I don't interpret her actions as chilled, exactly ...
Instead, this is what I imagine white-hot rage and disbelief look like when filtered through the norms of credible academic behavior. Her tone is perfect for absolutely destroying these men while coming out of the situation smelling like roses in a misogynistic world.
(Also -- this plagiarism had nothing to do with tenure -- the plagiarist in question quite senior and has spent decades as an editor.)
posted by Metasyntactic at 9:22 PM on January 29, 2021 [6 favorites]
It’s staggering to think about, Barnhorst said, but maybe someone was “just counting on the fact that we were just two women who wouldn’t say anything.”
posted by Omnomnom at 5:52 AM on January 30, 2021 [7 favorites]
posted by Omnomnom at 5:52 AM on January 30, 2021 [7 favorites]
It sounds like an exaggeration but many people still don't regard women as being full human adults & we see the evidence everywhere. There is no way they'd pull this on someone who they thought had agency & societal respect.
posted by bleep at 12:46 PM on January 30, 2021 [13 favorites]
posted by bleep at 12:46 PM on January 30, 2021 [13 favorites]
I love that Retraction Watch used the wrong name for the journal and left their error next to the correction, indicated with a strikethrough.
posted by fantabulous timewaster at 2:36 PM on January 30, 2021
posted by fantabulous timewaster at 2:36 PM on January 30, 2021
"Oh my goodness. I am thoroughly delighted at how masterfully Dr. Barnhorst is handling this truly shitty situation.
I don't interpret her actions as chilled, exactly ...
Instead, this is what I imagine white-hot rage and disbelief look like when filtered through the norms of credible academic behavior. Her tone is perfect for absolutely destroying these men while coming out of the situation smelling like roses in a misogynistic world."
I anticipated she'd be absolutely livid. I love the descriptor "masterful." She gave them a Sontag handshake. "Excuse me- I wrote that. It's my piece."
posted by firstdaffodils at 3:22 PM on January 31, 2021 [2 favorites]
I don't interpret her actions as chilled, exactly ...
Instead, this is what I imagine white-hot rage and disbelief look like when filtered through the norms of credible academic behavior. Her tone is perfect for absolutely destroying these men while coming out of the situation smelling like roses in a misogynistic world."
I anticipated she'd be absolutely livid. I love the descriptor "masterful." She gave them a Sontag handshake. "Excuse me- I wrote that. It's my piece."
posted by firstdaffodils at 3:22 PM on January 31, 2021 [2 favorites]
Is no one wondering why this journal/editor wanted to soft pedal the data or slant the conclusions of a study related to firearm suicides?
posted by amanda at 6:56 PM on January 31, 2021 [1 favorite]
posted by amanda at 6:56 PM on January 31, 2021 [1 favorite]
But! We don't know the distribution of her white hot rage, so we cannot say.
I caught the firearms slant as well. With the involvement of the judge, I was wondering if something funky was trying to be pushed on a local level. Did they need the publishing for other work? Was that it's need to exist, or the necessity to seemingly shoehorn such an experience?
posted by firstdaffodils at 7:20 PM on January 31, 2021
I caught the firearms slant as well. With the involvement of the judge, I was wondering if something funky was trying to be pushed on a local level. Did they need the publishing for other work? Was that it's need to exist, or the necessity to seemingly shoehorn such an experience?
posted by firstdaffodils at 7:20 PM on January 31, 2021
Lots of questions, but what really stuck out to me is that the perpetrator emailed hwe to let her know what he'd done. Is he so arrogant and/or clueless as to think this was perfectly ok and take pride in his theft of another person's work?
posted by TedW at 8:14 AM on February 1, 2021 [1 favorite]
posted by TedW at 8:14 AM on February 1, 2021 [1 favorite]
Yes.
Answer is yes.
It's likely he believed she would take his lead with the project.
Cool moves, world.
posted by firstdaffodils at 10:41 AM on February 1, 2021 [1 favorite]
Answer is yes.
It's likely he believed she would take his lead with the project.
Cool moves, world.
posted by firstdaffodils at 10:41 AM on February 1, 2021 [1 favorite]
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