...Ready for It (Football's Version)
January 31, 2024 11:00 AM   Subscribe

Welcome to the fallow week between the final game of the Conference Championships and the Super Bowl between Kansas City and San Francisco. You could watch the Pro Bowl in Orlando, but filling the air with analysis, predictions and odds is an absolute must to keep the hype train rolling, but this year the Internet has stepped in to help keep the conversation going....

After much speculation that the colors of this year's logo revealed that the NFL's scripted participants, the Internet has moved on to everyone's favorite "I Don't Like Her Music, but..." singer - Taylor Swift and her beau, Kansas City's Tight End Par Excellence - Travis Kelce. Speculation is running wild in conservative circles that the game is a setup to promote Kelce's image after his vaccination commercials and more importantly to swing the upcoming 2024 Presidential Election. The rumor is that Taylor is a "Pentagon Asset" that will take stage during halftime to endorse Joe Biden and unleash an army of Swifties to deliver the polls for the incumbent President.
posted by drewbage1847 (51 comments total) 4 users marked this as a favorite
 
They are incredibly scared of her influence, and with good cause.
posted by TwoWordReview at 11:05 AM on January 31 [9 favorites]


I like Taylor’s music a lot, but the “Pentagon asset” discourse feels like the B-plot of a 1970s Brian De Palma movie. (What better time to reboot Phantom of the Paradise, right?)
posted by pxe2000 at 11:14 AM on January 31 [3 favorites]


I figure I should step in for a half a second and make sure everyone knows that my "I Don't Like Her Music, but..." joke is because every discussion I see (including here) that isn't made up exclusively of diehard Swifties has a boatload of comments that start precisely with that sentence.

Her music is good. It's perfectly crafted pop, some of it catchy, some of it affecting and she's a hell of a performer. I just find it funny how that reaction follows any convo around her.
posted by drewbage1847 at 11:18 AM on January 31 [17 favorites]


Amy Ash on Bluesky: "I don’t think it’s normal to be an adult and mad that a popular girl is dating a football player"
posted by indexy at 11:22 AM on January 31 [32 favorites]


Taylor Swift is a private citizen and could endorse Biden any time she likes if she so chooses...but the plot is to rig a series of the most heavily watched and wagered-upon sporting events in North America...so that one of the most famous people on Earth...can get even more attention and...endorse Biden nine months before the election? Sure, bro.

Anyway, most if not all of the people at the top of the pyramid spreading this stupid conspiracy theory are of course doing it in bad faith in order to rile up the sort of people who will either pretend to believe it in bad faith or take it deadly seriously (CW: violent murder).
posted by The Card Cheat at 11:25 AM on January 31 [2 favorites]


I was initially getting a little red at the mention of odds for the game, because gambling is becoming so much of the daily media covering sports and I am really not interested in hearing it.

Then, I remembered that we are talking about the Super Bowl--the one game I find the prop bets interesting to follow (but not wager on) during the game...that along with the annual football squares pool.

So, I guess I'll need to calm down on on that topic for a couple of weeks.
posted by bruinfan at 11:26 AM on January 31 [1 favorite]


I don't think I've ever actually heard a Taylor Swift song. I know her only as a "celebrity." I gather she has a reputation for going through boyfriends like a buzzsaw and then writing songs about them, but it's looking like it might be pretty serious with this football player guy, and good for her. I saw someone post on Facebook this morning that there are all these football fan dads who are now getting to watch games and bond with their Swiftie daughters, and I think that's awesome.

But I honestly don't think I've ever heard her music at all. If I have, I certainly didn't recognize it as such.

It's sort of like how William Shatner raises horses, and apparently there's a whole rich horsey set that just know him as a horse breeder and are only kind of dimly aware that he was in some sci-fi TV show back in the day.

And yeah, I think Trump can't resist going after her because she seems to be more popular than him, and you know that's got to be driving him crazy. So he's going to go after her, and it's not going to go well for him.
posted by Naberius at 11:26 AM on January 31 [5 favorites]


TheCardCheat - I saw that story this morning and good lord it's fucking sad.

Also saw a Tweet this morning from one of the usual chuckleheads that tried to say that Taylor was dating Kelce because he got a $70K check for this last playoff game. You can imagine the amount of math in the dragging that one received.
posted by drewbage1847 at 11:29 AM on January 31


If you're new to Taylor Swift, the song "Shake It Off" is her fun and extremely catchy response to all the weird criticism she gets, with a great video. I'm not a big fan of modern pop, but (IMHO) it's one of the best pop songs I've heard in the last decade or so.
posted by indexy at 11:36 AM on January 31 [15 favorites]


You got Gravy Seals in the right-wing running around dressed like they're about to take on the Predator and they're terrified of a leggy blonde pop singer.
posted by Dipsomaniac at 11:38 AM on January 31 [3 favorites]


They are incredibly scared of her influence, and with good cause.

I dunno. Her very public endorsement of a Democratic candidate in Tennessee fell flat, so she's 0-1 in the influencing-an-election game. But, y'never know. I have to think, though, she's smart enough not to outright endorse Biden, which would just put bright shiny targets on her back and the backs of anyone remotely associated with her, or a fan of hers. I mean, she doesn't want to wake-up one morning to discover some MAGA has just beaten/shot/attacked some of her fans who were doing some sort of get-out-the-vote thing. And, we know just how such a thing will be spun on reich-wing media...That somehow Swift is to blame for politicizing her fame, or something.

I think, though, she'll just be more vocal/visible on issues she believes in. That they happen to match-up with a lot of what Biden (and Democrats in general) believe in is, in the end, "endorsement" enough.
posted by Thorzdad at 11:40 AM on January 31


I don't think I've ever actually heard a Taylor Swift song.

Here are a few:

Epiphany

Nothing New (Taylor's Version)

Willow
posted by box at 11:40 AM on January 31 [2 favorites]


Defector has a fun piece on this fallow period: Too Stupid Too Early
posted by Suedeltica at 11:42 AM on January 31 [2 favorites]


is Swift actually going to double down and go campaigning for Biden and go whole hog on becoming an icon in politics too? unless gen zers turn out in record droves, I don't see Biden winning given that even milquetoast leftists are going to have a hard time supporting a war crimes abettor and defender
posted by paimapi at 11:49 AM on January 31


Dang, they really love to say left wing people are stupid and then be all argle bargle Jewish space laser hurf durf Bill Gates is gonna chip you with a vaccine uh hur Biden rigged the Super Bowl with Taylor Swift yepyepyep taking my horse worm meds.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:00 PM on January 31 [5 favorites]


> I mean, she doesn't want to wake-up one morning to discover some MAGA has just beaten/shot/attacked some of her fans who were doing some sort of get-out-the-vote thing.

I skipped back to this after reading your comment and marvelled at how normalized the threat of political violence in the U.S. has become. This is a perfectly rational fear to have right now, and it's chilling how often I read things like this about people either modifying their public behaviour or worrying about potential consequences if they don't, and how it's taken as a given that MAGA is a violent movement (and not a fringe one, either).
posted by The Card Cheat at 12:03 PM on January 31 [14 favorites]


Googled "Taylor Swift net worth" because I was curious if she'd become a billionaire (she has).

And I got this in the "People also ask" box.

Literally laughed out loud.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:10 PM on January 31 [7 favorites]


"Pentagon asset?" I thought these were the people so thoroughly in love with the military that I have to put up with several rounds of applause for some lifer desk jockey in the audience at every sporting event.
posted by Abehammerb Lincoln at 12:17 PM on January 31 [2 favorites]


Turns out they don't love anything as much as they love Trump. Not the military, not the Republican Party, not the church, not Jesus or God, not their guns or even themselves.
posted by The Card Cheat at 12:21 PM on January 31 [4 favorites]


I don't think I've ever actually heard a Taylor Swift song.

This is the *other* pronouncement every discussion I see (including here) that isn't made up exclusively of diehard Swifties inevitably has.
posted by kjs3 at 12:46 PM on January 31 [14 favorites]


Anyway, let's get back to football and how excited everyone is for Pro Bowl Sunday!
posted by The Card Cheat at 12:47 PM on January 31 [2 favorites]


ObWhine: The 49ers play in a stadium 39 miles outside of San Francisco.
posted by PresidentOfDinosaurs at 12:48 PM on January 31


I skipped back to this after reading your comment and marvelled at how normalized the threat of political violence in the U.S. has become.

A guy just beheaded his own father because dad was a federal employee (a cop) and, thus, a traitor. Beheaded! His own father. It’s the fucking ameri-taliban out there. I can’t imagine the level of security a high-profile, presumably liberal, person like Taylor has to subject themselves to today.
posted by Thorzdad at 12:57 PM on January 31 [2 favorites]


yeah, the beheading was in TCC's previous comment before circling back to yours.
posted by drewbage1847 at 1:02 PM on January 31


What's the conservative record of going up against K-Pop Stans, Swifties, or the Beyhive?

Please proceed, governor.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 1:48 PM on January 31 [1 favorite]


I'm just hoping we can rope in BTS Army as well.
As for those who have never heard any song by her, You're On Your Own, Kid.
posted by signal at 1:59 PM on January 31


I don't see Biden winning given that even milquetoast leftists are going to have a hard time supporting a war crimes abettor and defender

have you seen the alternative?
posted by ZaphodB at 2:48 PM on January 31 [8 favorites]


have you seen the alternative?

Yes, but not voting sends a strong, unequivocal message, so…
posted by Thorzdad at 2:51 PM on January 31 [1 favorite]


Not voting sends the strong, unequivocal message that you don't care who wins so it might as well be the worst option.
posted by hippybear at 2:56 PM on January 31 [10 favorites]


Gotta admit, as a football-averse person in 49ers territory, I think it's hilarious that our nation's most insane right-wingers are psyching themselves up to cheer for San Francisco.
posted by grandiloquiet at 3:08 PM on January 31 [8 favorites]


I was merely channeling mefites of yore. I fully intend to vote. Twice if I can swing it.
posted by Thorzdad at 3:09 PM on January 31


Oh god let's please not do the not-voting thing here.

They are incredibly scared of her influence, and with good cause.

As a gay guy who's seen lots of popcult saviors come and go over the decades with little lasting political effect, I just don't think there's much of a reason for the GOP to be scared of Swift. I'll be pleasantly surprised if she makes a splashy endorsement for Biden, but don't think it will generate much action.

It's always good to remember: Hollywood will not save you. Pop singers will not save you.
posted by mediareport at 3:18 PM on January 31 [8 favorites]


I'm trying to think of popcult saviors [nice phrase] that actually have had an effect in any real way outside of promoting their own brand even when they have actually tried to do things, and I cannot really think of one. The big names that come to mind seem mostly to have raised awareness about various things but I don't think Jane Fonda ever got a law passed or anything. etc.
posted by hippybear at 3:24 PM on January 31 [1 favorite]


mediareport: "Pop singers will not save you."

K-Pop boy bands on the other hand…
posted by signal at 3:45 PM on January 31


Actually, change that. I can think of one. Bono convinced George W Bush to fund PEPFAR, the President's Emergency Plan For AIDS Relief, which has poured HIV/AIDS care into Africa for a couple of decades and is arguably the most successful public health intervention program in the history of the planet.
posted by hippybear at 3:52 PM on January 31 [2 favorites]


They are incredibly scared of her influence, and with good cause.

I know this is a lead-in to a joke, but she has an incredibly ruthless team surrounding her. I don't know what kind of person she actually is in real life, but her people are what Liddy/Hunt/Stone/etc deluded themselves into thinking they actually were. And unlike those Nixon fucks, nothing her people are doing when you deal with them is illegal, so it's even more ruthless.

If Team Swift wanted to actually ratfuck the election, the GOP would definitely fucking know it.
posted by Back At It Again At Krispy Kreme at 4:33 PM on January 31 [1 favorite]


Time to stock up on swiftamine.
Because your mind says ew… but you ears say shut up this song is perfect.
posted by St. Peepsburg at 6:32 PM on January 31 [1 favorite]


Biden: Not doing enough to stop Israeli genocide of Palestinians using USA supplied equipment and funds.

Republicans: Supreme Court seat stealing, election insurrection, abortion banning, LGBTQIA+ hating, abandoned the Palestinians recently, trying to get Texas to secessede, disdain for laws and heavily armed, racist, bigoted, while supremacists, want women to not be able to vote or have autonomy, occasionally murderous, increases poverty and wealth gaps, doesn't care about the environment,wears machine gun pins after school shootings, and got a bunch of people killed during a plague.



HOW CAN WE CHOOSE?!?¡‽¿ Biden bad you guys!!! I mean..... He's establishment Democrat sure, but............

Anybody got the odds for a marriage proposal?

And I love Champagne Problems and This is Me Trying
posted by Jacen at 7:12 PM on January 31


Matt Levine on Bloomberg declaring Taylor Swift a billionaire.
If you are a working musician and you put your songs on Spotify and you earn $50, you have $50. If you earn $50,000, you have $50,000. But if you earn $50 million, the math changes: Now you have a catalogue of songs worth hundreds of millions of dollars, which is the present value of your expected future earnings. Some music investment firm would probably pay you hundreds of millions of dollars for that catalogue, if you want. Even if you don’t want, Bloomberg will do the math for you and declare you a billionaire:

...

A lot of the accounting is realized cash earnings (from concerts, streaming, etc.), but $400 million of it is “the estimated value of her music catalog,” based on “a conservative multiple of future royalties.” Also based on comparisons to other artists who have sold their catalogues for nine-digit sums. Swift has not sold her catalogue, but that doesn’t change how the math works. The math is that she has a few hundred million dollars, so she’s a billionaire.
Football guy's net worth probably includes money his club has promised but has yet to pay him too?
posted by onya at 8:33 PM on January 31


Swift has not sold her catalogue, but that doesn’t change how the math works. The math is that she has a few hundred million dollars, so she’s a billionaire.

Look, I'm not even a Swiftie, but even I know that Swift literally had her catalog sold out from under her, which is why she's re-recording all her early albums into Taylor's Version versions.

That Matt Levine hasn't included this in his takedown on her net-worth makes me wonder what his actual motivations are in trying to take down one of the most successful women in the 21st Century. Certainly they didn't include actually researching who owns her catalog.
posted by hippybear at 9:05 PM on January 31 [3 favorites]


And, like, honest to god, Kelce's football money is still just a rounding error compared to Swift's money. Even if that Levine article contains truth.
posted by hippybear at 9:07 PM on January 31 [7 favorites]


She doesn't own the master recordings for here earliest albums which is why she's re-recording them, she does own the publishing rights. The value of something she doesn't own hardly seems relevant in working out her net worth, I'm not sure why you brought it up? The $400m is for music released since 2019.

I just thought this was an interesting comparison of what goes into being a billionaire entertainer vs a billionaire company founder or whatever not a takedown at all.
posted by onya at 10:37 PM on January 31 [2 favorites]


Bono convinced George W Bush to fund PEPFAR

Eh, I'll give you half points on that one. It was Bono's meeting with Jesse Helms that jumpstarted the process in the Senate. Helms was the bigger obstacle; Bush the First's signature was a later addition. And as the "criticism" section of your Wiki link notes, there were a lot of compromises to the far-right on reproductive health in that bill, and I recall a *lot* of discussion at the time about whether Bono's influence was a uniformly good thing.

I think on balance it was, and the health benefits to so many people so clear, so....half points.

(But damn, that picture of Bono flashing the peace sign with Helms was *very* hard to swallow if you were queer in North Carolina at the time.)
posted by mediareport at 4:06 AM on February 1


(For any folks who don’t know, Jesse Helms was one of the most vehemently anti-queer and racist Senators in Washington for decades.)
posted by mediareport at 4:12 AM on February 1


I was wondering, so here, from PopCrush in September: WHAT ARE TRAVIS KELCE’S POLITICAL VIEWS?
posted by mediareport at 4:32 AM on February 1 [1 favorite]


The rumor is that Taylor is a "Pentagon Asset" that will take stage during halftime to endorse Joe Biden...

“Usher, I'll let you finish, but Joe Biden is the greatest president of all time!”
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 9:25 AM on February 1 [5 favorites]


Lately, when I think about this Taylor + Pentagon conspiracy theory, I think about the USO and Bob Hope. I know it's not quite the same thing, but hey.
posted by May Kasahara at 9:39 AM on February 1


Hey fellow old guys, remember our parents hating on the Beatles and Led Zeppelin (or insert your favorite performer.) Remember how silly and small minded they seemed? Yeah? Let’s be better than them.

In other, more fun news, my wife just showed me shirt I can buy that reads "Go Taylor's Boyfriend!"
posted by cccorlew at 11:14 AM on February 1 [4 favorites]


They have the Kanye endorsement so let's call it even. I don't follow Ye news, how's he been doing lately?

I heard one flappy jaw on Fox whine about her private jet use. So refreshing that Fox cares about emissions! They're still into inciting riots though, which would happen at every terminal she boards at. And she's not flying to the golf course with her corporate buddies, she's working, serving 50000 customers per trip.

Another Fox mouth advised her how perilous this is for her career, she should just shut up and sing, lest she end in ruin. Taylor is the most successful businesswoman in her industry, she doesn't need career advice from someone that rides a bus with Trump operated trapdoors under the seats.

I know why this is happening at this particular moment too. He wants to defame E Jean Carroll again so bigly. He always needs to hate women, and for the first time in his misogynistic life he's been blocked. He needs to find another woman to hate before he explodes.

Taylor will be fine. Her image, her PR, the brand, the social media - that's part of her art as much as the songs. I don't think Trump understands this. He thinks she's an airhead popstar he can shove around, but I think he's out of his weight division.

She incorporates her rocky romances into her art. I wouldn't dwell too much on the half life. Maybe she's found her man! I reject the notion that the future of democracy depends on the fluttering of this chaos butterfly though. I can't let that idea live in my head.
posted by adept256 at 3:44 AM on February 2 [1 favorite]


I love Taylor. Though I'm a die-hard classical music nerd, I've gotten a bit into pop the last few years and she's the reason. Now that I've established my bona fides...

She endorsed Biden in 2020.

She caused a noticeable wave of new voter registrations of young people after asking concertgoers to register during at least one of her Eras tour shows.

As a pop singer she may not save us, but she's probably not going to hurt us, either.
posted by lhauser at 7:01 PM on February 2 [1 favorite]


“Japan wants everyone to know: Taylor Swift will make it in time for the Super Bowl,” Yuri Kageyama, Associated Press, 03 February 2024
posted by ob1quixote at 12:14 PM on February 3


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