Folk the System!
November 10, 2004 9:38 AM Subscribe
Prussian Blue is a "white-power" band named after the color of the residue Zyklon-B leaves in a gas chamber. They do some originals, but mostly folk covers of neo-Nazi bands like Skrewdriver and RaHoWa. Oh, and they're twelve-year-old twin girls. (via Vice.)
They do some originals, but mostly folk covers of neo-Nazi bands like Skrewdriver and RaHoWa.
The former leader of RaHoWa has publicly disavowed White Power and become an active anti-racist. So they've crawled on board a sinking ship.
posted by jonmc at 9:50 AM on November 10, 2004
The former leader of RaHoWa has publicly disavowed White Power and become an active anti-racist. So they've crawled on board a sinking ship.
posted by jonmc at 9:50 AM on November 10, 2004
Bob Ross always used Prussian blue.
Make of that what you will.
posted by Cyrano at 10:00 AM on November 10, 2004
Make of that what you will.
posted by Cyrano at 10:00 AM on November 10, 2004
wow.
Reading that made me feel weak and sad. I was sure the conversation on that first link was fake, at first. Then read the interview and am left - just - wow.
posted by mdn at 10:03 AM on November 10, 2004
Reading that made me feel weak and sad. I was sure the conversation on that first link was fake, at first. Then read the interview and am left - just - wow.
posted by mdn at 10:03 AM on November 10, 2004
Actually, prussian blue is one of the first artificial pigments. It's still used as a high-spot indicator in machine work. I call bullshit on the claim about the gas chambers.
posted by Mark Doner at 10:05 AM on November 10, 2004
posted by Mark Doner at 10:05 AM on November 10, 2004
This is the best the white power movement can do? 12-yr-old girls? That's embarrassing.
posted by photoslob at 10:07 AM on November 10, 2004
posted by photoslob at 10:07 AM on November 10, 2004
Zyklon B, referred to here merely as Zyklon, is a very effective pesticide consisting of liquid hydrogen cyanide (HCN, an acid) absorbed into some inert material such as wood pulp, with an irritant added to warn bystanders of its presence. HCN is also called "prussic acid" and in German "Blausaüre" (blue acid), because it is commonly used in blue dyes and tends to leave blue stains where it is used.
posted by jazon at 10:09 AM on November 10, 2004
posted by jazon at 10:09 AM on November 10, 2004
I'd say the first link is NSFW, but that's just me. Love your race? *Shiver*
posted by NewBornHippy at 10:19 AM on November 10, 2004
posted by NewBornHippy at 10:19 AM on November 10, 2004
The family that hates together, hates each other eventually. I think their next press release will be that daddy has furthered his own cause and gotten both of them knocked up (for the Fatherland, of course).
Bleh. White Trash Supremacists make me want to use a Sharpie and color myself black.
Oh yeah, to the twin's Mommy, Odin's sheildmaiden, maybe you should spell check your nickname before clicking okay? Nah, that'd be kow-towing to the evil Jews who like things spelled right. Or some other bullshit.
Can't we just put all these people in a rocket ship and shoot them into the sun? Pretty please?
posted by fenriq at 10:23 AM on November 10, 2004
Bleh. White Trash Supremacists make me want to use a Sharpie and color myself black.
Oh yeah, to the twin's Mommy, Odin's sheildmaiden, maybe you should spell check your nickname before clicking okay? Nah, that'd be kow-towing to the evil Jews who like things spelled right. Or some other bullshit.
Can't we just put all these people in a rocket ship and shoot them into the sun? Pretty please?
posted by fenriq at 10:23 AM on November 10, 2004
Doner: I'm just repeating what the girls said in the Vice article (it's only in the magazine, not yet on the website.) Actually, they think because there's a lack of blue stains on the gas chamber walls (not that I know that's true), it's one piece of proof that the Holocaust never happened. Charming, eh?
posted by fungible at 10:23 AM on November 10, 2004
posted by fungible at 10:23 AM on November 10, 2004
I have to question the wisdom of posting crap like this. Is it interesting? Yes, in that car crash sort of way. But you also give them more publicity, which is precisely what they're after. It's just like the clueless "look what that crazy PETA is doing now" posts. Yes, they do that so you will post about it. (Not that I'm drawing similarities between PETA and these lunatics, mind you.)
posted by Outlawyr at 10:33 AM on November 10, 2004
posted by Outlawyr at 10:33 AM on November 10, 2004
Prussian Blue might be more harmful to Jews
than the original.
And I do look forward to that.
Poor kids. Let's hope that Lynx and Lamb find a way into the wider world and leave this shit behind, shall we?
posted by jokeefe at 10:46 AM on November 10, 2004
than the original.
And I do look forward to that.
Poor kids. Let's hope that Lynx and Lamb find a way into the wider world and leave this shit behind, shall we?
posted by jokeefe at 10:46 AM on November 10, 2004
"Blausaüre" (blue acid), because it is commonly used in blue dyes.
No. The history of cyanide and CBWInfo entry say it got the name blue acid - originally Berlin Blue acid - because Scheele first synthesized it from Berlin Blue (aka Prussian Blue).
posted by raygirvan at 10:50 AM on November 10, 2004
No. The history of cyanide and CBWInfo entry say it got the name blue acid - originally Berlin Blue acid - because Scheele first synthesized it from Berlin Blue (aka Prussian Blue).
posted by raygirvan at 10:50 AM on November 10, 2004
Gah.
I think it's a great post. It's upsetting and gross, but it won't go away if it's ignroed, Outlawyr. I think the benefit of realizing that not only is this kind of crap out there, but not just in the heads of wierd disaffected hermits, far outweighs any harm of exposing it to the light.
It's always better to spread information, even if the information is distasteful or even harmful. OK that's a much larger argument, I suppose :)
posted by freebird at 10:56 AM on November 10, 2004
I think it's a great post. It's upsetting and gross, but it won't go away if it's ignroed, Outlawyr. I think the benefit of realizing that not only is this kind of crap out there, but not just in the heads of wierd disaffected hermits, far outweighs any harm of exposing it to the light.
It's always better to spread information, even if the information is distasteful or even harmful. OK that's a much larger argument, I suppose :)
posted by freebird at 10:56 AM on November 10, 2004
I'd hit 'em.
And kick 'em, too.
then i'd take 'em out back and drown 'em.
Isn't a Prussian Blue a kind of cat too?
no, it's a russian blue.
posted by t r a c y at 10:58 AM on November 10, 2004
And kick 'em, too.
then i'd take 'em out back and drown 'em.
Isn't a Prussian Blue a kind of cat too?
no, it's a russian blue.
posted by t r a c y at 10:58 AM on November 10, 2004
These girls were on the White Supremacy episode of Louis Theroux's Wild Weekends. I had hoped they would've, y'know, hit puberty and that stage where you rebel against what your parents have told you, but I guess that hasn't happened yet.
Then again, dude, my mother never let me go out in skirts that short...maybe they're just slowly building up to a full-on rebellious phase.
posted by Katemonkey at 11:01 AM on November 10, 2004
Then again, dude, my mother never let me go out in skirts that short...maybe they're just slowly building up to a full-on rebellious phase.
posted by Katemonkey at 11:01 AM on November 10, 2004
Then again, dude, my mother never let me go out in skirts that short...maybe they're just slowly building up to a full-on rebellious phase.
oh please - the whole point of the band is to appeal to the angry white men who will find the girls some indistinct combination of sweet/cute and sexy. The lolita angle is basically their entire market.
posted by mdn at 11:07 AM on November 10, 2004
oh please - the whole point of the band is to appeal to the angry white men who will find the girls some indistinct combination of sweet/cute and sexy. The lolita angle is basically their entire market.
posted by mdn at 11:07 AM on November 10, 2004
t r a c y, thanks, I was close but didn't need the P!
Katemonkey, yeah, those skirts are a little risque and the extra white stockings help to display their heritage all the better, yeah White Power! Yeah! (I'm sure the filthy old white men that pop viagra to beat off to their pictures like the stockings alot).
This is grotesque.
posted by fenriq at 11:36 AM on November 10, 2004
Katemonkey, yeah, those skirts are a little risque and the extra white stockings help to display their heritage all the better, yeah White Power! Yeah! (I'm sure the filthy old white men that pop viagra to beat off to their pictures like the stockings alot).
This is grotesque.
posted by fenriq at 11:36 AM on November 10, 2004
It's like a secret world revealed. A completely parallel society living among us. Totally hermetic worldview. Wow. I had no idea this crazy stuff had any real traction outside of prison or Idaho. (But then I'm from Oakland) Sacramento? The scales are falling from my eyes. A "possibly NSFW" might have been nice, but wow, just wow. Very enlightening and disturbing post.
posted by ubi at 11:39 AM on November 10, 2004
posted by ubi at 11:39 AM on November 10, 2004
Don't be fooled. The existence and spawning of neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups and Holocaust deniers internationally is just part of a clever plot by Zionists to focus world attention on and win support and sympathy for Jews. And of course to detract from the real Zionist agenda.
Good work, Lamb and Lynx -- mazel tov!
posted by jellybuzz at 12:06 PM on November 10, 2004
Good work, Lamb and Lynx -- mazel tov!
posted by jellybuzz at 12:06 PM on November 10, 2004
Yeah, great post. But I'm confused: Are most white power racists Holocaust deniers, or are they pro-Holocaust? Or both?
posted by inksyndicate at 12:35 PM on November 10, 2004
posted by inksyndicate at 12:35 PM on November 10, 2004
Are most white power racists Holocaust deniers, or are they pro-Holocaust? Or both?
The ones with a shred of conscience (or, more probably, marketing) claim that it never happened in order to make Nazis seem like efficient beaureaucrats to emulate rather than the monsters that they were.
The really ill ones accept that it happened and like it because it makes the Nazis seem like the monsters that they were.
posted by Mayor Curley at 12:49 PM on November 10, 2004
The ones with a shred of conscience (or, more probably, marketing) claim that it never happened in order to make Nazis seem like efficient beaureaucrats to emulate rather than the monsters that they were.
The really ill ones accept that it happened and like it because it makes the Nazis seem like the monsters that they were.
posted by Mayor Curley at 12:49 PM on November 10, 2004
Interesting interviews with George Burdi, ex-Hate-Rock singer and ex-fascist label-owner, at Engaged Zen Foundation ("founded to foster zazen in prison") and Vanguard News Network ("No Jews. Just Right").
"Do not seek to destroy the world you hate, (for you do not have this power) just build the world you love (you have this power)"
posted by iffley at 1:07 PM on November 10, 2004
"Do not seek to destroy the world you hate, (for you do not have this power) just build the world you love (you have this power)"
posted by iffley at 1:07 PM on November 10, 2004
And you can download music from Burdi's new multi-racial band here.
posted by iffley at 2:15 PM on November 10, 2004
posted by iffley at 2:15 PM on November 10, 2004
i consider this NSFW, to the point where i closed my browser half-way through. should be labeled as such. of course, the vice mag thing should have been a tip-off...
posted by jcruelty at 2:40 PM on November 10, 2004
posted by jcruelty at 2:40 PM on November 10, 2004
Wow... They should tour with this chick. It's a match made in paradise!
posted by SweetJesus at 3:28 PM on November 10, 2004
posted by SweetJesus at 3:28 PM on November 10, 2004
reading that "interview" in the first link makes me think they did not do it at all. it sounds much too sophisticated for girls -- no short sentences, all proper language. I wonder if they had any input at all.
posted by evening at 5:38 PM on November 10, 2004
posted by evening at 5:38 PM on November 10, 2004
evening, that was my impression, too. These girls are totally being pimped out by their parents.
Those websites were pretty disturbing, but also pretty random... it felt like a lot of it was done to shock people, not because of any deeply held beliefs (eg, the holocaust denying/holocaust supporting thing - I don't think it really matters to them because both positions shock-).
I was also surprised about the number of references to similar movewments in germany - I thought there were sorta strict not-so-freedom-of-speech-oriented laws in germany about this sort of thing, due to recent history... is that mistaken?
posted by mdn at 7:29 PM on November 10, 2004
Those websites were pretty disturbing, but also pretty random... it felt like a lot of it was done to shock people, not because of any deeply held beliefs (eg, the holocaust denying/holocaust supporting thing - I don't think it really matters to them because both positions shock-).
I was also surprised about the number of references to similar movewments in germany - I thought there were sorta strict not-so-freedom-of-speech-oriented laws in germany about this sort of thing, due to recent history... is that mistaken?
posted by mdn at 7:29 PM on November 10, 2004
brief derail:
does it surprise anyone else that the neo-nazi band skrewdriver (linked here) have covered the traditional-sounding german anthem "tomorrow belongs to me" from the musical cabaret, both given the context in which it appears and given that the songwriters are jewish?
/derail
posted by pxe2000 at 8:04 PM on November 10, 2004
does it surprise anyone else that the neo-nazi band skrewdriver (linked here) have covered the traditional-sounding german anthem "tomorrow belongs to me" from the musical cabaret, both given the context in which it appears and given that the songwriters are jewish?
/derail
posted by pxe2000 at 8:04 PM on November 10, 2004
Wow... They should tour with this chick.
They probably won't be on tour with Matisyahu.
These girls are totally being pimped out by their parents.
How could anybody be a rock star at 12, if not pushed into it by the parents? What have you got to rebel against at that age? (Or are they just into it for the sex and drugs?)
posted by LeLiLo at 9:48 PM on November 10, 2004
They probably won't be on tour with Matisyahu.
These girls are totally being pimped out by their parents.
How could anybody be a rock star at 12, if not pushed into it by the parents? What have you got to rebel against at that age? (Or are they just into it for the sex and drugs?)
posted by LeLiLo at 9:48 PM on November 10, 2004
"Proud Mom" obviously intended the Lolita angle from birth when she named the poor things after a sleeve she saw in an adult video store.
posted by melissa may at 9:59 PM on November 10, 2004
posted by melissa may at 9:59 PM on November 10, 2004
The main reason I am quite pleased that Mark Doner was quickly shown to be absolutely wrong is because I utterly detest the phrase “I call bullshit on...”.
posted by ed\26h at 2:42 AM on November 11, 2004
posted by ed\26h at 2:42 AM on November 11, 2004
I find it interesting that they consider white supremicists "racially aware" people. I mean really...
posted by Eekacat at 3:23 AM on November 11, 2004
posted by Eekacat at 3:23 AM on November 11, 2004
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