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CNN Cans Tucker Carlson of 'Crossfire' - To quote chief executive of CNN Jonathan Klein, "I guess I come down more firmly in the Jon Stewart camp." (via)
posted by buriednexttoyou (105 comments total)

 
A CNN post via boing boing?
posted by mr_crash_davis at 5:56 PM on January 5, 2005


There might be a god after all.
posted by eriko at 5:57 PM on January 5, 2005


WoooooHooooooo-filter.
posted by mosch at 5:58 PM on January 5, 2005


Matt Taibbi had a great column in Yesterday's New York Press on Carlson and the media/political theatere of shows like Crossfire.

Carlson occupies the same role for conservatives in the media landscape that Colmes does for liberals. Colmes is a pale-faced, paint-by-numbers loser whose only job is to be a believable liberal for people who live in trailers. Carlson is CNN's idea of a conservative. His right-wing ideas come from his changeable, expensive brains instead of his stomach. In the same way that the helpless, ineffectual Colmes is a reassuring image to hardcore conservatives, Carlson puts a soothing face on conservatism for educated East-coast progressives—because even the biggest neo-Marxist wanker from Brown takes one look at Carlson and sees the one man in America he would feel sure of being able to kick the shit out of in a back alley.

Stewart was right to target Crossfire. The Carlson/Paul Begala "debate" show is not only one of the biggest con games in the informational arena, it's the archetypal blueprint for the larger con game of American politics. In the show, the "left" battles the "right," and the segments are structured in such a way that the commentary is bound to outrage virtually every viewer away from one or the other debate participant. Taking sides, the viewer accepts the black-and-white left-right paradigm and focuses exclusively on the two debaters. As a result, he doesn't ask the important question, which is this: If Tucker Carlson represents the right and Paul Begala represents the left, what is the ideology of the tv studio in which they sit? What's the politics of that dull white table upon which their arms rest? Because the unspoken assumption of the show is that the debate is held in a perfectly neutral medium—and this is a false assumption.

Real politics isn't a ping-pong game. It's ugly, uncomfortable, deadly serious and inherently bad television. That both Crossfire and our presidential elections are good television ought to tell us something. We're being had by a league of frauds, and whether they play on the right or the left is immaterial.
posted by clubfoote at 5:58 PM on January 5, 2005


Why, yes, A CNN post via Boing Boing.
posted by eriko at 5:59 PM on January 5, 2005


Klein said he wants more substantive programming that is still compelling.

I wonder what this'll look like.
posted by Maxson at 5:59 PM on January 5, 2005


I wonder what this'll look like.

Flowbee ads.
posted by eriko at 6:06 PM on January 5, 2005


Jon Stewart must be doing backflips. I would've loved to have seen Stewart's face when he found out that not only was The Smug Bow-Tied Idiot shown the door, but that The Smug Bow-Tied Idiot's boss agrees with Jon Stewart. YES!

on preview: Maxson, it ain't gonna be pretty. Oh, wait-- yes it will. Big smiles and bouncy... hair and lots of neat-o graphics and charts and everything.
posted by Fuzzy Monster at 6:07 PM on January 5, 2005


i bet Carlson's bowtie started spinning furiously...cause that's what those things do, right?
posted by NationalKato at 6:13 PM on January 5, 2005


I just re-watched the video of Stewart on Crossfire today with someone who had never seen it... It's great!

Carlson is an ass and it shows. Let's hope this starts a trend with other media outlets... Rush? O'Riely? Hannidy?

Now, if they could only take John Stewart's suggestions to heart... Fat Chance.
posted by Balisong at 6:16 PM on January 5, 2005


omfg...
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best news of the day. Not the firing of *ucker carlson, but the sentiment espoused by Mr. Klein.

Please don't let this be an evil marketing ploy.
posted by C.Batt at 6:23 PM on January 5, 2005


What I'm curious about is if Stewart's unbelievably successful flogging of Carlson is what cost him his job in the end.

Anyhow I'm glad to see anybody from the right frog-marched out the door, but I'd be 100x happier if it was an actual politician, like Cheney or Rumsfeld.

clubfoote: I love the assessment of Carlson as being analagous to Colmes. Dead on.

I will continue to get all of my TV news from The Daily Show.
posted by mcstayinskool at 6:25 PM on January 5, 2005


Does anyone else here really get their news from Jon Stewart? I'm even proud that it's from Stewart and not my old source -- Letterman.
posted by NickDouglas at 6:27 PM on January 5, 2005


Did they fire Begala yet? They should axe him next if they haven't. And Novak--fuck that guy.
posted by The God Complex at 6:27 PM on January 5, 2005


Tucker now has his own show on PBS which makes me think that CNN is just pre-emptively firing Tucker before he quit.
posted by destro at 6:28 PM on January 5, 2005


Left-post-on-preview-too-long-while-checking-other-tabs-filter.
posted by NickDouglas at 6:28 PM on January 5, 2005


Does anybody even watch Cross-fire? Tucker ain't worried. He can still live fat off his PBS show income... hahahahah....

Let's hope this starts a trend with other media outlets... Rush? O'Riely? Hannidy?

I think O'Riely's days are numbered. Al Franken will show up unannounced on some talk show and punk him and he'll split an artery and drop dead live on air. "...Peeeeeeabody" will be his dying words.

Rush and Hannity are going strong. Rush will have a narcotic relapse at some point but his audience will just love him more.
posted by tkchrist at 6:29 PM on January 5, 2005


$10 says CNN replaces Crossfire with either a "Grinning Anchor Talks Clothes and Shoes With World Leaders" esque show or an extra half-hour showcase of "Lou Dobbs' Dislike of Immigrants."

I'll take the MacNeil/Lehrer News Hour any day...but it looks like Tucker's already made it to PBS...and it looks like he'll continue to land on his feet (at MSNBC)...
posted by tpl1212 at 6:33 PM on January 5, 2005


I feel exactly the same right now as I did when Colin Quinn did his "goodbye" monologue on Tough Crowd right after The Daily Show one night. Which is to say, very happy.

Where's that clip of the other Crossfire doofus saying, about Jon Stewart, "...and I know he's uninformed!" when you need it?

As for getting my news from TDS, I actually hear most of the stuff they cover first on Metafilter. Thanks Internets!!
posted by odinsdream at 6:33 PM on January 5, 2005


If only Stewart could get Bush on his show.

That Taibbi column was excellent, clubfoote -- as my young gamer friends say, "qwned."
posted by digaman at 6:34 PM on January 5, 2005


or an extra half-hour showcase of "Lou Dobbs' Dislike of Immigrants."

hahhahahhahaha
posted by The God Complex at 6:34 PM on January 5, 2005


Destro beat me to the PBS-punch...dagnabbit!
posted by tpl1212 at 6:35 PM on January 5, 2005


Seems to me like it's just a CNN press release spin on the fact that Tucker Carlson must have wanted to leave after being made a fool of by Jon Stewart and must have been offered a better deal by MSNBC. Apparently CNN offered him his own show to get him to stay with the channel, but he turned them down.

Also, he is a dick.
posted by tapeguy at 6:36 PM on January 5, 2005


$10 says they use the inept Mo Rocca (thank god he's not on TDS anymore) to do a lame attempt at TDS.
posted by The God Complex at 6:37 PM on January 5, 2005


$5 says they replace Crossfire with Crossfire

Anderson Cooper faces off against Electric Dragons...Next!
posted by tpl1212 at 6:40 PM on January 5, 2005


Did they fire Begala yet? They should axe him next if they haven't. And Novak--fuck that guy.

Dead on TGC. And they need to dump Carville also. As a matter of fact, just drop the fucking show and start from scratch.
posted by eyeballkid at 6:41 PM on January 5, 2005


CNN will probably fold "Crossfire" into its other programming, perhaps as an occasional segment on the daytime show "Inside Politics," said Jonathan Klein, who was appointed in late November as chief executive of CNN's U.S. network

Whoops. Missed that part. I guess they are.
posted by eyeballkid at 6:42 PM on January 5, 2005


Wait, I like Mo Rocca...?
posted by odinsdream at 6:42 PM on January 5, 2005


Bye loser. You've been powned, and we all saw it.
posted by zpousman at 6:46 PM on January 5, 2005


Mmm, delicious shadenfreude.

as my young gamer friends say, "qwned."

Shouldn't that be "pwned"? [/old pedantic gamer]
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:46 PM on January 5, 2005


Great quote from Klein:

"I doubt that when the president sits down with his advisers they scream at him to bring him up to date on all of the issue. I don't know why we don't treat the audience with the same respect."

Guess we'll see how seriously CNN means it. I'm not holding my breath.
posted by mediareport at 6:47 PM on January 5, 2005


There might be a god after all.

The word down here in DC is that Carlson will soon be offered his own show on MSNBC. So if you're right, it's an angry god.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 6:49 PM on January 5, 2005


Schadenfreude. Mmm, savory.
posted by rushmc at 6:51 PM on January 5, 2005


Shouldn't that be "pwned"? [/old pedantic gamer]

or pwnz0rd, if you're me and just kind of make things up as you go.


Wait, I like Mo Rocca...?


I'm sure lots of people do. I just don't think he can hold a candle to Colbert or most of the other people they have on the show now, especially without TDS's crack writing staff.
posted by The God Complex at 6:53 PM on January 5, 2005


And Novak--fuck that guy.

Yeah. Fire him, fuck him, indict him, convict him and jail him. Then fuck him again. (I hope that doesn't come across as too harsh.)
posted by effwerd at 6:53 PM on January 5, 2005


Bye, Tucker!
posted by ori at 6:59 PM on January 5, 2005


A CNN post via boing boing?

What's wrong with "via boing boing"? Wait, never mind. I forgot the rule that says big communal blogs can never work in parallel to spread a meme. Sorry, won't happen again.
posted by mediareport at 6:59 PM on January 5, 2005


I'd just like to remind people that CNN, Fox, MSNBC - these are companies trying to turn a profit by ENTERTAINING people, whether or not it also informs (or misinforms, as the case may be) them. It strikes me as extremely unlikely that the departure of one person will effect the quality of CNN's programming (or the American media, in general) in any meaningful way.

/gross over-generalization.
posted by fingers_of_fire at 7:02 PM on January 5, 2005


Carlson is an ass and it shows. Let's hope this starts a trend with other media outlets... Rush? O'Riely? Hannidy?

Pah, no one ever watched Crossfire.... Unlike Rush, Bill, and Sean...
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 7:03 PM on January 5, 2005


Congratulate him in person!
posted by sourwookie at 7:03 PM on January 5, 2005


Now... to get Stewart booked on Fox with Bill O'Reilly....
posted by xinit at 7:05 PM on January 5, 2005


Exactly, you should be ashamed mediareport!
posted by TwelveTwo at 7:10 PM on January 5, 2005


Doesn't it sound a bit like they're using the whooping they took from Mr. Stewart on Crossfire to position themselves closer to the TDS crowd?
posted by svenni at 7:15 PM on January 5, 2005


i hear they're replacing Crossfire with a show about puppets debating the "issues", to compete with CC's broadcasting...

(i hope they get Triumph for one side...)
posted by zombiejesus at 7:20 PM on January 5, 2005


Now if only Tucker Carlson could get some manner of terminal, inoperable disease, life would be perfect.

I'm kidding (mostly).
posted by ticopelp at 7:20 PM on January 5, 2005


Novak is worse than Carlson, pity he's still on.
posted by abcde at 7:38 PM on January 5, 2005


I actually liked Carlson, back in '99 and '00, on The Spin Room with Bill Press. He was cute, you know, with his baby face and his little bow tie. He was the Davy Jones of the GOP set. But after the Supremes appointed Bush in '01, he just became insufferably smug, along with every other right-winger in the country. Now it's good riddance to bad rubbish.

(PBS? WTF?)
posted by Faint of Butt at 7:41 PM on January 5, 2005


xinit: He was already, though you probably knew that and were just being subtle. O'Reilly later went on Daily, which was a bit more amiable.
posted by abcde at 7:42 PM on January 5, 2005


Eh. How serious can Klein actually be about moving CNN in any new direction if, just as he fires Carlson, he hopes the "douchebag of liberty" will stay on?

I never hated Tucker Carlson the way some (Jon Stewart in particular) seemed to. While still a media whore extraordinaire, he actually has some original ideas and isn't afraid to criticize those on his own side when necessary. I particularly remember his work while in Iraq a year or so ago, and his reporting on the dire "post-war" situation there being quite honest.

Anyway, Novak is 10x the scumbag that Carlson is. And 100x the criminal.

The guy is obviously much smarter than Alan Colmes too, and much less of a stooge, and works for a network with much less of an ideological raison d'être. I don't agree with Taibbi's comparison there. The Hannity and Colmes show exists for the sole purpose of attempting to make the left look effeminate incoherent fools. The same cannot be said for Crossfire and the right.
posted by thirdparty at 7:47 PM on January 5, 2005


the poster who mentioned how Carlson is the equivalent of Colmes is spot-on. Carlson is nothingness in a bow-tie, a fake, a punching ball of a conservative put there to reassure viewers with the opposite view. Carlson is zero.

Novak, on the other hand is, to use a terminology dear to red-white-blue blooded Americans nowadays, a traitor.
big difference there. keep the eyes on the ball, guys.


Unlike Rush, Bill, and Sean...

yeah, the trifecta.

"...
So, please, please, God, Allah, Buddha, who the fuckever or no one, let it be true. 'Cause if it's true, then the right will have O'Reilly, vibrator-using falafel fucker, and Rush Limbaugh, batshit insane hillbilly heroin addict.
All we need then is to find the bodies of molested children buried in Sean Hannity's backyard, and we'll have hit the trifecta."

anybody with a shovel and a free afternoon? I'm game.
posted by matteo at 7:48 PM on January 5, 2005


I would hope that this is just the first link in a chain of events. Let's hope we see more of this, as has been said earlier, on all levels. In the media and government. When did we last have ( in the U.S.) a credible and accountable media or government?
posted by snsranch at 7:50 PM on January 5, 2005


Wait, I like Mo Rocca...?

Mo is great as a panelist on Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me and he was great doing segments on TDS, but his show on Court TV based on The Smoking Gun website showed me that he can't quite carry a program on his own.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 7:53 PM on January 5, 2005


qwned = pwned++.
posted by zsazsa at 7:54 PM on January 5, 2005


Didn't Mo Rocca leave TDS to write a book about Presidential Dogs? However, he was IMHO a big part of firing up The Daily Show.
posted by snsranch at 7:58 PM on January 5, 2005


"What's wrong with "via boing boing"?"

Nothing. Nothing at all. But a CNN front-page link that BB already covered is, well, NewsFilterish. Wouldn't you agree?
posted by mr_crash_davis at 8:00 PM on January 5, 2005


so what's qwneb?
posted by eyeballkid at 8:02 PM on January 5, 2005


quonsar's Nation of Islam name?
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 8:05 PM on January 5, 2005


From the article: It averages 447,000 viewers each weekday, down 21 percent from the previous season...

Read it how you want folks, but it's all about ratings. He lost his audience to his more loudly yelling counterparts on Fox, and they were losing money on his ass.

Television is not about providing programming to its viewers, it's about providing eyeballs to its advertisers.
posted by Devils Rancher at 8:10 PM on January 5, 2005


Crossfired.
posted by smackfu at 8:13 PM on January 5, 2005


Anyway, Novak is 10x the scumbag that Carlson is. And 100x the criminal.

Let's hope he gets 100x the ass-pounding he deserves for putting our brave men and women in the intelligence community in harm's way.

Now, can we please get this blonde cunt off the air?
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 8:13 PM on January 5, 2005


eriko:
Flowbee ads.

"Wayne! Wayne! It's sucking my will to live!"

Which is pretty much the way I feel about what passes for TV "journalism" these days.
posted by Relay at 8:19 PM on January 5, 2005


But a CNN front-page link that BB already covered is, well, NewsFilterish. Wouldn't you agree?

Kinda. I'm with you on the first part; I got bored with one-link news stories as front-page posts long ago. But I've always laughed at folks who think it's somehow wrong to post something cool to MeFi just because it's already appeared at Fark/BoingBoing/Slashdot/Memepool/etc. That attitude is fundamentally antithetical to the whole fucking purpose of the Web.

On preview: "blonde cunt"? Jesus, grow up. It's not her cunt that's the problem, jerk.
posted by mediareport at 8:20 PM on January 5, 2005


[insert obligatory dismissive "tucker carlson's brun prick" comment to maintain ratios. aw, the caliber of the whole site goes down a notch, even if it is equalized. lower, but equalized...]
posted by ifjuly at 8:30 PM on January 5, 2005


"Tucker Carlson's Brun Prick" would not make a good name for a band.
posted by Faint of Butt at 8:36 PM on January 5, 2005


"pwned" is owned typed too quickly. as in "You've been owned!"
posted by zombiejesus at 8:38 PM on January 5, 2005


No it's not, it's an abbreviation of 'pre-owned', a taunt that rose out of the intragroup lingo used by the enormous and influential used-car salesman Counterstrike clan [x-L3m0n-x], which so dominated that game for years. [/sarcasm]
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:44 PM on January 5, 2005


Pet Peeve about my love for the daily show:

I rarely get my news from it. I find it hilarious precisely because I'm such a news junkie. Anybody else have the same issue?
posted by slapshot57 at 8:49 PM on January 5, 2005


An actor who had bit part in Half Baked and Big Daddy gets a show nobody watched pulled off the air...yawn
posted by TetrisKid at 8:52 PM on January 5, 2005


Oh no please Mister Klein, please don't ditch that visionary Tucker Carlson, don't cheat the public like this, heck, give Tucker his own show, and give us more bowtie please, more bowtie and more blather...

/brer rabbit
posted by dhoyt at 9:16 PM on January 5, 2005


TetrisKid: Don't forget death to smootchy. (also, I'm under the impression that a couple of people watch TDS)
posted by absalom at 9:19 PM on January 5, 2005


An actor who had bit part in Half Baked and Big Daddy gets a show nobody watched pulled off the air...yawn

Aspiring to hipness by feigning ignorance of the zeitgeist in favor of other frivolous and irrelevant pop cultural references... yawwwwwwn.
posted by psmealey at 9:29 PM on January 5, 2005


On preview: "blonde cunt"? Jesus, grow up. It's not her cunt that's the problem, jerk.
posted by mediareport at 8:20 PM PST on January 5


Actually, referring to Coulter as such is what is known in the English language as Synecdoche. Might also wanna ease up on the false outrage.
posted by basicchannel at 9:34 PM on January 5, 2005


It wasn't false, basic, and it definitely wasn't outrage. "Cunt" is just a stupid word to use as an insult.
posted by mediareport at 9:39 PM on January 5, 2005


Would "Twat" be better?
posted by Balisong at 9:41 PM on January 5, 2005


As a very recent alumni of the George Washington University, I don't know if the loss of Crossfire, which airs live from the journalism building every day, is a bad thing for the school, or a good thing....

I thought the show was good when the hosts were new, but as two and a half years went by, it became the same old, same old bickering every day.

They should do what Jon Stewart said and get a moderator who calls it down the middle, then get rid of all the other hosts and just have guests debate each other, with the moderator calling out lies and spin. That's good TV where I come from.
posted by sdrawkcab at 10:02 PM on January 5, 2005


I'm not one for showy endzone celebrations but this one got the dirty bird with a little TO showboatin' on top!

Has Stewart covered this on The Daily Show? (TDS looks and sounds like crotch rot so I'm staying away, three times is plenty, aw shit, I said it.).
posted by fenriq at 10:05 PM on January 5, 2005


Doubt it means much, myself, but I'm churning the butter in my own virtual end zone... um... so to speak.
posted by psmealey at 10:09 PM on January 5, 2005


People who see Tucker Carlson as the bad guy in John Stewart's assessment of "Crossfire" are sort of missing the point. The show is the bad guy -- largely, but not exclusively, for putting a pup like Carlson in the spotlight. He was certainly the bigger jerk in the John Stewart segment. But Carlson and Begala are both partisan hacks, and replacing "Crossfire" with "Q/A with Paul Begala" would hardly be an improvement.
posted by coelecanth at 10:10 PM on January 5, 2005


Sounds sticky Psmealey.
posted by Balisong at 10:12 PM on January 5, 2005


Would "Twat" be better?

Dick.
posted by mediareport at 10:13 PM on January 5, 2005


Isn't MSNBC the lowest rated cable news channel?

Also, as I'm sure you know Steve, Rush had a TV show no one watched (except for me, when I was conservative before it was cool, unfortunately I was in High School at the time).
posted by drezdn at 10:29 PM on January 5, 2005


when I was conservative before it was cool

Fuck... FUCK! Is conservative cool now? God damn it, people, you're supposed to send me these fucking memos when this shit happens.
posted by psmealey at 10:32 PM on January 5, 2005


Rush had a TV show no one watched

I remember watching that show back when I was a little kid. Man, what the fuck was I thinking?
posted by puke & cry at 10:53 PM on January 5, 2005


If my life has featured any sort of pattern, it's that I do things viciously ahead of the curve. I had a garage band in the late 90s. I was in a metal band when alternative was cool. I wore the combat caps that hipsters are sportin' now a days about four years ago. My friend and I wanted to do a X-Men style comic book called "X-Factor" roughly two years before it came out.

The downside is that I'm usually on the losing side at any given time. I'm a leftist when the right is taking control. I'm rooting for DC when everyone is making there's marvel. I enjoy Jersey Girl, when people are burning Kevin Smith in effigy.

So if this trend continues, invest in tanker boots, japanese baseball shirts, turtlenecks, and betta fish, and guitar heavy indie rock and you'll be rich in roughly 3-4 years
posted by drezdn at 10:55 PM on January 5, 2005


It wasn't false, basic, and it definitely wasn't outrage. "Cunt" is just a stupid word to use as an insult.

I agree, let's take the Anglo-Saxon back. Cunt is a dandy term, and should be used with respect. Let's use the fucking latinate as an insult: take that blond vagina off the air. And the penishead Rush should be next.

::Rolls eyes::
posted by teece at 11:27 PM on January 5, 2005


The show is the bad guy in Stewart's assessment of Crossfire, but Tucker Carlson is the bad guy in Stewart's assessment of Tucker Carlson. There's a reason Stewart never called Paul Begala a dick.
posted by aaronetc at 11:39 PM on January 5, 2005


Klein said he hoped Novak, Begala and Carville would continue with meaningful commentator roles at CNN.
No God. Evil marketing ploy.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 4:22 AM on January 6, 2005


>People who see Tucker Carlson as the bad guy in John Stewart's assessment of "Crossfire" are sort of missing the point. The show is the bad guy

Well put. This entire thread stinks of schaudenfraude. The issue Stewart and any other sane person has with with Crossfire was the daily "debating" of carefully crafted party talking points dressed up as some kind even-handed and sincere exchange. Begala is just as wrong and fraudulent in this respect. In fact, the entire show is.

Also note, that Carlson still has his PBS gig, given to him by Lynne Cheney's "GOP-ization" attempts of PBS. Dont miss the photo.
posted by skallas at 5:01 AM on January 6, 2005


What's wrong with "via boing boing"? Wait, never mind. I forgot the rule that says big communal blogs can never work in parallel to spread a meme. Sorry, won't happen again.

Posting a link from another blog is not a problem. Posting the exact wording without attribution or some indication that it is a quote is plagerism.
posted by srboisvert at 6:48 AM on January 6, 2005


Oh and ignore me
posted by srboisvert at 6:49 AM on January 6, 2005


I have no doubt that Carlson already has a deal in place with MSNBC. You'll see that sanctimonious mug in some blanket ad campaign or other as soon as the ink is done drying. Whatever. As has been said, the problem (lack of attention to actual issues in favor of pro wrestling-style posturing and other palliative bullshit) remains.

And I continue to be astonished that Robert Novak isn't doing at least hard time for treason. The shit he pulled is a capital offense, and did as much to Endanger America as anything anyone currently incarcerated in Gitmo has done.

They execute people for what Novak did.
posted by chicobangs at 7:20 AM on January 6, 2005


that rush limbaugh show was produced by roger ailes actually. both have landed on your feet. but the nypress quote is the bomb and strikes to the heart of the issue: the "news" plays to our predisposition for storytelling, ie. sensationalism. they learned that painting broad strokes of black vs. white, good vs evil - like professional wrestling and soap operas - make for the best ratings. trouble is too many americans think it's real. it is hurting our country as stuart said.
posted by alfredogarcia at 8:00 AM on January 6, 2005


teese: That was one of the best combinations of intelligence and genitalia I have ever seen in a comment. : )
posted by spock at 8:22 AM on January 6, 2005


I didn't read every single response, but did you know that Tucker's father was head of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting in the 1990s? Just saying....
posted by zorro astor at 9:26 AM on January 6, 2005


You know, I hate Novak as much as the next right-headed person, but what he did is not a crime. The leakers committed a crime, Novak did not. If Novak's actions were part of a pattern of behavior regarding classified information, then they could be considered criminal. As this appears to be a single, isolated incident, it's not a crime. Is it loathesome? Is it despicable? Is it arguably anti-American? Yes, yes, and yes. But not criminal.
posted by aaronetc at 10:12 AM on January 6, 2005


I can't wait to watch TDS tonight.
posted by hopeless romantique at 10:35 AM on January 6, 2005


You know, I hate Novak as much as the next right-headed person, but what he did is not a crime. The leakers committed a crime, Novak did not.

Then isn't Novak guilty of obstruction of justice?
posted by kjh at 11:03 AM on January 6, 2005




Also: yay! Dosn't Jon Stewart seem like the kind of guy who would feel uncomfortable having this much power?
posted by delmoi at 11:49 AM on January 6, 2005


Dosn't Jon Stewart seem like the kind of guy who would feel uncomfortable having this much power?

Hmmmm....yes. And if this were a Jerry Bruckheimer film, we'd give him the power to purge stupidity and mediocrity from any corner of this world for that very reason.
posted by junkbox at 12:16 PM on January 6, 2005


An actor who had bit part in Half Baked and Big Daddy gets a show nobody watched pulled off the air...yawn
posted by TetrisKid at 10:52 PM CST on January 5

Aspiring to hipness by feigning ignorance of the zeitgeist in favor of other frivolous and irrelevant pop cultural references... yawwwwwwn.
posted by psmealey at 11:29 PM CST on January 5


pwned
posted by Ynoxas at 12:56 PM on January 6, 2005


I think the point would be that you don't need boing boing to tell you that there's a news story on CNN, and it seems strange to bother attributing something like that.

Then again, I think the whole "via" blogiquette is sort of strange in most cases.
posted by The God Complex at 1:12 PM on January 6, 2005


The important question is whether this is good or bad for the bowtie.
posted by rush at 3:02 PM on January 6, 2005


Tucker's father was head of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting in the 1990s

That's quite a promotion from being head of WKRP in Cincinnati in the 1980s.
posted by George_Spiggott at 3:40 PM on January 6, 2005


Ha!
posted by chicobangs at 4:42 PM on January 6, 2005


From the very little I know of Carlson, (15 minutes of accumulated Before-I-Flipped-the-Channel-Time + Steward interview), it doesn't seem like he's a very nice guy but....wasn't he doing exactly what CNN hired him to do? Didn't they want a dick? Aren't they just going to get another dick? If they are going to have what Jon Stewart wanted, what with the actual debate show and all, it will be interesting to see what happens. Honestly though this seems to me to just leave a void to be filled by an aspiring young dick ready to prove....that's waaaaay too suggestive.

I'm not going to miss Tucker Carlson, but he did his job...I think. At least the job he was honestly hired to do. CNN isn't telling me that they think his job shouldn't be done in the first place.

Klein said he hoped Novak, Begala and Carville would continue with meaningful commentator roles at CNN.

Huh. I'ma keep watching the Daily Show, and then I'll get my fill of sensational ridiculous crap from the Weather Channel.
posted by SomeOneElse at 12:39 AM on January 7, 2005


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