13 Myths About the Results of the 2000 Election.

November 13, 2000 1:45 PM

13 Myths About the Results of the 2000 Election. I know, I know. We're all tired of election stuff. But for anyone who's not, this is well worth reading. [via rewired]
posted by fraying (19 comments total)

lately, i'm starting to hate metafilter.

its nothing personal fraying :)
posted by howa2396 at 2:19 PM on November 13, 2000

howa2396, you hate it in general or you hate it based on the recent political discussions
posted by Karla at 2:24 PM on November 13, 2000

That's probably the best election-related post I've seen since the election hoo-ha started. Read the link carefully, as it's a good one.
posted by mathowie at 2:29 PM on November 13, 2000

Number 8 is wrong. In Chicago we also had several pages regarding Judicial retention. It by far took me the most time to get through those pages as I was afraid of double punching.
That said, this is a very informative link.
posted by thirteen at 2:57 PM on November 13, 2000

Yes, its a really good one.

For those who are bored by the election, here's a couple of ideas:

1. skip the election posts. that's it, ignore them.
2. post something that you want to talk about

Let Meta do the filtering
posted by lagado at 2:58 PM on November 13, 2000

That's a great link and provides some important and fascinating information. And it's important that stuff like this is highlighted and distributed, lest people believe the lies that both sides are telling. I have yet to tire of all the election posts here on MeFi, and am glad to have one place to go to catch up on lots of interesting commentary and information that isn't available on Yahoo or CNN.

I agree with Lagado, don't read it if it doesn't interest you.
posted by megnut at 4:10 PM on November 13, 2000

I find it interesting that Thirteen didn't rip on item #12.

Perhaps 13 heard about the vote fraud in Southern Illinois that favored Nixon in 1960.

Been dialed into WBEZ instead of WLS. I wonder?
posted by ethmar at 6:16 PM on November 13, 2000

I think ethmar might have the wrong idea about me. I had not heard anything about southern fraud in 1960, and I don't think there is anything wrong with Al trying to make sure every vote cast for him ends up in his basket. I didn't vote for either of these jokers, and I change my mind about which one of them I hope takes the prize nearly everyday.
The Democrats own Chicago, the Republicans own the rest, neither senario serves Illinois citizens. I wish I lived in a place where I was not so sure what party the winner of any given election was gonna be. My scumbag congressman might be the exception to that last statement. Rod Blagojevich will probably take a run for governor and might actually win. I hope this does not happen, but it might. The disgusting man is made of hair and chin, and part of one of Illinois crookedest political families.
I listen to a good 6+ hours of BEZ everyday, and I can't get the dial far enough away from WLS. How does that sound? So as not to totally blow my image, I do spend time urging others not to give public radio any money, and I have a habit of chuckling during pledge drives.
posted by thirteen at 7:20 PM on November 13, 2000

13, I will refrain from being a hard-core archivist and merely point out that you have repeatedly made mention of the vote fraud in Cook County in 1960 that favored Kennedy. If indeed you were dialed in to WBEZ as you say, then surely you heard the piece they did on WHY Nixon didn't challenge the Cook County results. There was vote fraud downstate that favored Nixon.

By the way, 13, I'll remind you that you could have it much worse: you could live in Wood Dale and be "served" by one Henry Hyde.

Blagojevich seems to be more tenuous. Hyde is forever.
posted by ethmar at 6:33 AM on November 14, 2000

Actually I would appreciate it if you did post a link to any comment I have ever made about the 1960 election. I will bet you 20 PayPal dollars you don't find any. Vote fraud doesn't give a hard-on, so in the unlikely event I actually did mention it, I am certain I was not harping about how Kennedy stole the election.
I do not remember the NPR piece you are speaking of. I have it on all day, but I frequently have to get up and plug errant mouse back in for people in my office. I do believe you, and I now state for all to see"THERE WAS REPUBLICAN VOTE FRAUD IN DOWNSTATE ILLINOIS IN 1960" John Thirteen 2000
I cry bloody tears for all the people suffering in Wood Dale, I know it is a hell on Earth. Hyde came closer to losing his seat than Blagojevich, you might be wrong on that one.
posted by thirteen at 8:06 AM on November 14, 2000

I, for one, would like to go on the record as saying that I love the election controversy and love Metafilter at this particular time.

Have a lovely day.

posted by norm at 8:18 AM on November 14, 2000

The original link left out Myth #14:

Myth: Bush and Gore are both interested in a "fair, accurate vote count."

Fact: Both are interested in a vote count that wins them the election.
posted by mikewas at 8:37 AM on November 14, 2000

Stipulated... but it's a lot easier to cast Gore's behavior in the light he would like you to, than it is for Bush -- Gore's behavior, while tuned to win him the election, actually *does* display an interest in a fair, accurate vote count.

Bush's merely displays an interest in getting things over with, regardless.
posted by baylink at 9:12 AM on November 14, 2000

I'm with thirteen on the Cook County retention ballots. I had the CBA's list of bad judges, but I gave up half-way through. Not only was it hard to find the judges, but the arrows and lines seemed to be off by a millimeter or two, and it was impossible to find correspondance. If I were less lazy, I'd look at the vote totals and compare them with the order on the ballots. My guess is that judges near the top got more votes, yes or no, than the others, just because people got weary and gave up like me.

Curiously, I was going to mention this in my fray story. Oh, what delicious foreshadowing that would have been.

Also curious: I've avoided Metafilter for the past week-plus. I had hoped the election memes would have died out after Nov. 7, but I guess that was too hopeful. And yet, what does my first post back regard?

And one more: Eric Zorn wrote an excellent column this week about why Bush should concede. It's what I've been saying all week, but with better articulation and punctuation.
posted by luke at 9:24 AM on November 14, 2000

This is a *very* nice piece. I've blogged it, and I plan to print it out and take it along to any other demonstrations that might happen in my area. Not that the Bush supporters will *read* it or anything...
posted by baylink at 9:32 AM on November 14, 2000

Karla: because of all the political bullshit
posted by howa2396 at 9:39 AM on November 14, 2000

Karla: because of all the political bullshit

What does that have to do with Metafilter per se? You should say, "I hate all the election discussion." And if you don't want to read it, don't read it. Apparently, a lot of MeFi readers are interested in it.
posted by daveadams at 10:45 AM on November 14, 2000

It has been 24 hours, I am going to take ethmar's silence as vindication. He now owes me $20.
posted by thirteen at 9:47 AM on November 15, 2000

I still have not received my $20.
posted by thirteen at 6:05 PM on November 17, 2000