Having lived on military bases for a good part of my childhood and a small part of my adulthood, I've taken great pleasure in google mapping all the places I used to run around in, checking out the airplanes, grenade ranges, tank pads, jeep trails and other fun things I've played in. posted by furtive at 8:05 PM on September 13, 2005
In a world where information is going to flow ever more freely, we need to start basing our security strategies on something other than secrecy or obscurity. Opening people's eyes to that relatively early (though some, like Bruce Schneier, have been screaming it for years) is a valuable public service. posted by sindark at 8:32 PM on September 13, 2005
Wow, WetherMan - I had no idea it was that close to Alice Springs. posted by Jimbob at 8:50 PM on September 13, 2005
...because we all know that democracy doesn't work unless you can hide your military bases? posted by odinsdream at 9:01 PM on September 13, 2005
Information cannot threaten democracy; it is a vital ingredient. posted by Eamon at 9:03 PM on September 13, 2005
Isn't it interesting that idiots are trying to stop the dissemination of information that was always available (if you had the $$). Why can large business and the government (that exists due to my taxes) get these images and yet I cannot? Come on, it is not as if a terrorist couldn't just hire a plan and fly over Lucas Heights or buy a SPOT/IKONOS/EROS image of these places. posted by dangerousdan at 9:23 PM on September 13, 2005
Come on, it is not as if a terrorist couldn't just hire a plan and fly over Lucas Heights or buy a SPOT/IKONOS/EROS image of these places.
It's not like a terrorist is going to do much more than explode a truck bomb outside Lucas Heights anyway - all this on OMG 2m2 RESOLUTION PICTURES OF OUR FACILITIES fear is stupid. In most cases, one could get all the information they need to cause a lot of damage from a street directory. posted by Jimbob at 9:34 PM on September 13, 2005
Having lived on military bases for a good part of my childhood and a small part of my adulthood, I've taken great pleasure in google mapping all the places I used to run around in
Yah, I did that too. I found houses I used to live in, or nearby, in Arizona and Germany as a kid in the 70s.
The thing that grabbed me now was how small those bases are, especially the dinky ones like Hahn, even though they seemed just immense as a kid. posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:27 PM on September 13, 2005
FTA: India agrees. Reuters quotes an anonymous security official there as confirming that "the issue of satellite imagery had been discussed at the highest level but the government had concluded that 'technology cannot be stopped'."
Heh. The pleasures of having a Missile Man (tm) and an OSS-supporter for the President.
That said, I look forward to the day the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) open-sources its satellite imagery. posted by the cydonian at 10:34 PM on September 13, 2005
as if terrorists need maps to fly into buildings or pentagons.
the military needs to get over themselves. posted by tsarfan at 10:45 PM on September 13, 2005
As long as we're talking about overhead imagery of airbases, here's a TerraServer page on Area 51. (embedded animation) posted by alumshubby at 5:04 AM on September 14, 2005
This thread shouldn't go without a mention of cryptome's eyeball series, which has been around for a while. posted by sfenders at 5:38 AM on September 14, 2005
Survey of Soviet Bases has about 500 of those Godless commie airstrips
cleanliness is next to godlessness... (and I'm a fan of both) posted by dreamsign at 5:57 AM on September 14, 2005
So I checked Washington DC and found everything there, except that the capitol building and related Senate and house office buildings were are pixelated. You could see they were there, but the resolution was very bad. It was clearly selectively applied to buildings and grounds, not the entire frame where the building was shown. posted by Red58 at 6:00 AM on September 14, 2005
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