aburd: I've always found talking points memo a great site for keeping track of all the scandals, TPMmuckraker is a new part of the site dealing specifically with following all the details of all these scandals.
I have to say I'm pretty surprised that the bush administration and the republicans are still able to come up with creative new ways to screw everyone. posted by delmoi at 12:02 AM on May 13, 2006
Yet another fucking pathetic political post: that's pathetic as opposed to decent or vaguely halfway reasonable and not: political posts are themselves pathetic.
Couldn't you at least link to the article that the muckraking site relies upon. posted by peacay at 12:05 AM on May 13, 2006
i'll grant you that this particular post is far from impressive, given that it's concomitantly far from timely, among other reasons.
but while political posts can be "pathetic," as can any post, they are not so merely by dint of their nature as political posts. posted by Hat Maui at 12:23 AM on May 13, 2006
Actually peacay said political post are NOT themselves pathetic. posted by tula at 12:28 AM on May 13, 2006
Couldn't you at least link to the article that the muckraking site relies upon.
No, but thank you for asking. posted by delmoi at 12:50 AM on May 13, 2006
Were I in charge, you'll all be shot at dawn. posted by PareidoliaticBoy at 12:51 AM on May 13, 2006
Anyway, just a sign of the times that a top-level CIA official can have his home raided by the FBI and people are like "Who cares"? posted by delmoi at 12:55 AM on May 13, 2006
It isn't really news until it's Podcasted. If 'n it ain't Ipodirrific, it's worthless. posted by PareidoliaticBoy at 1:09 AM on May 13, 2006
delmoiwrites"Anyway, just a sign of the times that a top-level CIA official can have his home raided by the FBI and people are like 'Who cares'?"
Well, that's only because we have bigger fish to fry now. In batter. With 11 secret herbs and spices. Mmmmmmm fish. posted by IronLizard at 1:09 AM on May 13, 2006
Actually peacay said political post are NOT themselves pathetic.
*distracts tula with magic trick, then disappears in puff of shame* posted by Hat Maui at 1:31 AM on May 13, 2006
Anyway, just a sign of the times that a top-level CIA official can have his home raided by the FBI and people are like "Who cares"?
Perhaps illegal phone surveillance of hundreds of millions of American citizens is a slightly more pressing issue than a Victorian sex scandal? posted by Mr. Six at 1:37 AM on May 13, 2006
delmoi -
"...a sign of the times that a top-level CIA official can have his home raided by the FBI and people are like "Who cares?"
I don't know about that. I've got scandal fatigue. I can't freaking keep up with it all any more. Remember Libby? Or the nine billion dollars missing in Iraq that congress voted against looking for? I am seriously worn out with all this crap. posted by rougy at 1:38 AM on May 13, 2006
I wrote elsewhere earlier today that it's a pretty sad & scary state of affairs when your intelligence bureaus are siccing themselves on each other. I think this use to happen back in the USSR.
Perhaps illegal phone surveillance of hundreds of millions of American citizens is a slightly more pressing issue than a Victorian sex scandal?
Except it's not just a Victorian sex scandal--it also involves bribing Congressmen to hand out billions of dollars worth of defense contracts. That's your tax money. There are potentially serious blackmail issues, too, with members of Congress and high-ranking CIA officials involved.
Just because one scandal is horrifically serious doesn't mean the other half-dozen imploding at the same time aren't big news, too. It's kind of fascinating watching all the wheels come off at the same time. posted by EarBucket at 4:03 AM on May 13, 2006
It's kind of fascinating watching all the wheels come off at the same time.
posted by EarBucket at 4:03 AM PST on May 13 [+fave] [!]
But with all the spending of tax dollars, little did you know that it is a hovercraft now and wheels are unneeded. posted by rough ashlar at 4:23 AM on May 13, 2006
Except it's not just a Victorian sex scandal--it also involves bribing Congressmen to hand out billions of dollars worth of defense contracts.
And let's face it, how can last week's abrupt resignation of Foggo's boss, CIA head Porter Goss, not be about this?
also, the guy's name is Dusty Foggo. Foggo. Foggo. Foggo. How fun is that to say? posted by CunningLinguist at 5:49 AM on May 13, 2006 [1 favorite]
But with all the spending of tax dollars, little did you know that it is a hovercraft now and wheels are unneeded.
but the bottom of the hovercraft is falling out ... it's now a life preserver ... a lead life preserver for fish so they won't drown in the air
peacay: the 'muckraking' site you sneared so derisively at has been ripped off by newspapers left and right, and does its own original reporting.
Don't assume that just because it's a blog, it's less worthy than a corporate newspaper. TPM has been the go-to site for months on republican scandals and breaks stories well before they appear in mainstream papers. posted by empath at 7:24 AM on May 13, 2006
But with all the spending of tax dollars, little did you know that it is a hovercraft now and wheels are unneeded.
It IS the future!! Flying cars and all!!
"This administration is SOARING!"--Colbert posted by Balisong at 7:51 AM on May 13, 2006
There was no sneer...at TPM. Look at its URL. My adding a different suffix was accidental, seriously. The (sideline) point is that it wasn't the origin. The post consisted of a link to a 2nd hand site with all of what, 200 words? Totally crap post. delmoi, try harder. posted by peacay at 7:53 AM on May 13, 2006
I am seriously worn out with all this crap.
I'm not worn out, but literally cannot keep up. The number of scandals and corruption cases are ballooning out of my ability to form any sort of coherent picture. Are things just falling apart?
Have the 200,000 missingsold AKs been mentioned on MeFi yet? posted by sonofsamiam at 8:19 AM on May 13, 2006
I don't know about that. I've got scandal fatigue. I can't freaking keep up with it all any more. Remember Libby...
That's what I mean. It's a sign of the times that there are so many scandals, that this doesn't seem like a big deal. posted by delmoi at 9:20 AM on May 13, 2006
Now everyone knows that no one in the US cares until someone gets a blow job.
If this is what it will take to bring the Administration down, I will take one for the team and blow Bush myself. posted by ereshkigal45 at 9:22 AM on May 13, 2006
Ah, but have you considered that his increasingly irrational behavior could be due to SYPHILIS?! posted by sonofsamiam at 9:25 AM on May 13, 2006
And the Times points to Brant "Nine Fingers" Bassett, the retired CIA officer who went to work for Goss on the Hill and then went back to the Agency with him as a consultant.
If Goss was getting key advice from a guy named "Nine Fingers" that alone is cause for alarm. Who else was there? Bugsy? Ripper? Boom-Boom? Lefty? Socko? The Nose? Ice Pick? Jimmy Legs? Fat Tony? Roach? Turd Blossom? posted by Rumple at 10:02 AM on May 13, 2006
Have the 200,000 missingsold AKs been mentioned on MeFi yet?
I'm just reading about it in the Guardian now. Wow, what a huge mess ... And it belies the myth that privatizing the military would be somehow more efficient. Wow, just wow ... posted by bcveen at 11:30 AM on May 13, 2006
Boy, this whole thing sure is falling apart pretty fast now, eh? Stranger than fiction. posted by stinkycheese at 11:42 AM on May 13, 2006
O_o Oh, how it boggles.
These guys aren't the government, they're the WASP Mafia crime family.
Is there a special name for that yet? posted by zoogleplex at 11:46 AM on May 13, 2006
Oh and re: the AKs: Don't worry! We didn't sell them, uh I mean, lose any ammunition or magazines! The rifles are useless without those! posted by zoogleplex at 11:50 AM on May 13, 2006
The Northern Ireland newspaper The Daily Mirror reports the 99-ton cache of AK47s was supposed to have been secretly flown out from a U.S. base in Bosnia. But the four planeloads of arms have since vanished.
If the AKs were secretly flown out, wouldn't it look like they vanished? If the shipment was recorded, it wouldn't be much of a secret, would it?
/goes to watch Lord of War again posted by b1tr0t at 12:23 PM on May 13, 2006
But with all the spending of tax dollars, little did you know that it is a hovercraft now and wheels are unneeded.
However, alas, since the hovercraft was designed adn tested under the direct supervision of quite thoroughly bribed military procurement officials, it can neither stop nor change direction once said wheels come off.
And you will not beleive the maintenance costs once they declassify the corresponding line items in the black budget. posted by mwhybark at 12:31 PM on May 13, 2006
More stuff:
Raw Story says that we're going to bomb Iran as early as June. posted by empath at 12:55 PM on May 13, 2006
Raw Story says that we're going to bomb Iran as early as June.
Dear God, no.... posted by rougy at 1:39 PM on May 13, 2006
Defense officials said the National Guard may be used only until significant additions to the existing civilian border patrols can be fully funded and completed. posted by sonofsamiam at 1:46 PM on May 13, 2006
Federal prosecutors working the Cunningham case have requested so much information from Congress, three committees might have to "shut down" to comply, Roll Call's John Bresnahan reports.
U.S. Attorneys want boxloads of documents from the House Armed Services, Intelligence, and Appropriations committees, Bresnahan writes. They also want to interview at least nine current or former staffers.
It's clear from the requests that "the corruption probe that began with Cunningham has now clearly moved beyond the actions taken by the imprisoned former lawmaker to other Members," sources tell Roll Call, which notes recent stories naming Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-CA), appropriations committee chairman, as another target of the feds. posted by overanxious ducksqueezer at 12:24 AM on May 16, 2006
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