I predict that this thread will end up peppered in birdshot. posted by isopraxis at 7:13 PM on June 15, 2006
I fact, isn't lying required on Meet the Press? Or is that just for Russert's cable show? posted by wendell at 7:15 PM on June 15, 2006
Gee, I thought Halliburton got all those no-bid contracts because they were just that good. posted by mek at 7:34 PM on June 15, 2006
Being on Meet the Press != being under oath
Well, that dosn't mean it's a good idea to just lie with impunity. posted by delmoi at 7:35 PM on June 15, 2006
Does Halliburton have any competition? Are there other companies that could service these contracts? Why aren't they suing? posted by b1tr0t at 7:40 PM on June 15, 2006
This report is brought to you by one of the sources that told us about the Rove indictment. posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 7:42 PM on June 15, 2006
I can't believe they didn't kick off Jaymz on So You Think You Can Dance?. That dude could fuck up standing still. posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:29 PM on June 15, 2006
So now who's going to get hauled off asking him about it? posted by Smedleyman at 10:25 PM on June 15, 2006
The joke's on Cheney. He can lie and cheat all he wants, but there's no Republic left to undermine. Sucker!
I'd protest, but the designated 'free speech zone' for this scandal is located in a dark alley behind a crack house Gary, Indiana. I can't get there. I'm on a no-fly list. Apparently all eight hits on my blog were government agencies (plus one guy who thoughtfully recommended a product to enlarge my yankee doodle). posted by Davenhill at 11:46 PM on June 15, 2006
This report is brought to you by one of the sources that told us about the Rove indictment.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste
This report is brought to you by one of the sources that told us about the Rove indictment.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste
Do you have a point?
he's been felching linnwood again. posted by quonsar at 4:25 AM on June 16, 2006
We all saw the writing on the wall when Bunny Greenhouse was driven out, though, right? posted by overanxious ducksqueezer at 4:41 AM on June 16, 2006
This report is brought to you by one of the sources that told us about the Rove indictment.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste
Do you have a point?
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Look on top of the USS Clueless head for above mentioned feature. posted by nofundy at 5:44 AM on June 16, 2006
Um well does Halliburton have any real competition on most of these large contracts? Probably not, but the idea of an open bid is to see if in fact there may be. However if there were time constraints, and if the Gubment wanted to have some assurance of qualifications, then Halliburton is the logical choice. I mean we can try another company when there's more time. Allowing a low bidder to Fuck it all up for the sake of the appearance of "competitive bidding" may not always be the safest course posted by Gungho at 6:30 AM on June 16, 2006
There were Iraqi companies that could have done all the work, and we have laws about competitive bidding on govt. contracts, Gungho. This contract wasn't even announced to the public or put out for bidding until after it had already been awarded to Cheney's. posted by amberglow at 6:53 AM on June 16, 2006
he's been felching linnwood again
Felching Linnwood would be an awesome band name. posted by Blazecock Pileon at 7:03 AM on June 16, 2006
Allowing a low bidder to Fuck it all up for the sake of the appearance of "competitive bidding" may not always be the safest course
Allowing a no-bidder to fuck it all up for the sake of squeezing another billion into the profit margin is rarely the safest option, either. posted by Balisong at 7:27 AM on June 16, 2006
Every time I see one of these stories, I get my hopes up for just a moment. Then I think back to the allegations of Bush's AWOL time in the Guard, and the questionable circumstances of his release. Every story since then, has the same effect, except the high is less high and the hangover more severe. posted by Doohickie at 9:16 AM on June 16, 2006
It's just one more notch in Cheney's lying bed post.
Bechtel is probably the only potential competitor to KBR etc., and they're not much better. posted by feloniousmonk at 10:50 AM on June 16, 2006
No, there are several: Bechtel, Blackwater, Halliburton, Fluor, probably some more I don't know about, all fulfilling roughly overlapping roles in construction, energy, and mercenary forces.
The business model of these guys literally requires human blood as input. They cannot be non-coercively profitable.
Besides Iraq, various combinations of the above can be found doing private police work in many countries in South America, some parts of Africa, and post-Katrina Louisiana. posted by sonofsamiam at 11:06 AM on June 16, 2006
Certainly on such projects as food supplies for the military there are smaller competitiors that could easily have covered this (Sodexho, for example).
It's time to let the "lack of competitors" myth die. posted by Kickstart70 at 11:23 AM on June 16, 2006
"The business model of these guys literally requires human blood as input."
Remind you of anyone?
Like say, maybe Satan perhaps?
Or how about those South American natives whose priest/rulers used to cut people's hearts out on an altar?
Sounds pretty much definitively evil to me.
And we let these fuckers run the world? Mm hm. Yeah, good job. posted by zoogleplex at 2:42 PM on June 16, 2006
Well, yeah.
The way I look at things, brutality is in some way the real motivating force, the imposition of one's will on others.
Whether it is justified as necessary to appease the gods or necessary to "help the free market" (an oxymoron), doesn't matter.
The brutality is the invariant, the irrational justifications which are ostensibly the real motivating factors, and whether they are "capitalist" or "communist" or "religious", seem like a secondary phenomenon, a narrative imposed retroactively. posted by sonofsamiam at 2:49 PM on June 16, 2006
The way I look at things, brutality is in some way the real motivating force, the imposition of one's will on others.
and the implications of that are beyond chilling. posted by amberglow at 7:34 PM on June 16, 2006
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