No, I'm afraid that's as gay as it gets. posted by IronLizard at 1:53 AM on January 28, 2007
Monju's link was a teeny bit gay, pwedza's post was gayer than the Republican Closet. Queer, in every definition of the word. But does it say anything about me that I want that hat? posted by wendell at 2:08 AM on January 28, 2007
Wendell: Yes. Deep down inside, you're an extra on Soul Train as directed by Lewis Carroll.
p.s. What was the release year on this video? Although the track was classic, the production values on the video place it in the early 90s, it seems... posted by LMGM at 2:16 AM on January 28, 2007
It also says you might be fierce, wendell. posted by hojoki at 2:18 AM on January 28, 2007
the first comment i saw on this was
"Don't ask, don't read:
In 1876, a young girl named Jenn was walking down a river, an insane man killed her by stabbing her in the back, raping her, and then hanging her in his closet. While he hanged her he said Bukakke Bukkake.
Now that you have read this message, she will find you and her dead body will haunt your house for 5 years. Every night you go to sleep she will appear in your closet, hanging their with her glowing red eyes.
repost 3 times to be saved"
this is the most retarded thing ever, but i am still pissing my pants in fear to check my closet. posted by wumpus at 2:20 AM on January 28, 2007
this is the most retarded thing ever, but i am still pissing my pants in fear to check my closet.
Nah, I'm sure it would be scary the first few times, but if she's going to haunt you for 5 years, it'll probably get old:
"Honey, can you grab my black strapless?"
"No, Stabby McBukkake is in the way again"
"Ah, just push her aside. I'm so sick of that b*tch." posted by LMGM at 2:48 AM on January 28, 2007 [5 favorites]
I would love to find out that this din da da merchant was actually straight, just a lover of challenging stereotypes wherever he finds them. posted by imperium at 3:23 AM on January 28, 2007
Well, I liked this post a lot. But then I have irrationally warm feelings for this song, because the original "Trommeltanz", extended version w/ a killer light show, opened the first and only Clash concert I ever saw, at the Aragon Ballroom back in the Reagan years. No Mick Jones, probably not an outstanding show, but what a crowd. That night still renews my faith in humankind.
Anyway, I like this Kevin Aviance. He knows how to sell a hat. I was sorry to hear about his brutal beating by anti-gay assholes last year. Any news on his condition? His blog stops in 2006. posted by maryh at 4:05 AM on January 28, 2007
That's not George Kranz posted by _aa_ at 7:42 AM on January 28, 2007
I wish I knew the version of this song that Scott Henry used to play at Buzz in the 90s. It wasn't either of the ones posted here. posted by empath at 7:48 AM on January 28, 2007
Look, pwedza: why do you feel posting a single YouTube link is "Best of the Web"? Look at some other postings -- note that people went to some work to create them. There's some indication as to what your post is about -- you simply have to watch it to see. And then it's an "OK video" -- I can find videos this interesting in one minute by browsing YouTube or Google video.
Lazy and self-indulgent. Not "Best of the Web". posted by lupus_yonderboy at 7:50 AM on January 28, 2007
And let me ask you, lupus, why you didn't simply flag the post? posted by Astro Zombie at 7:56 AM on January 28, 2007
I started to. In all conscience, there isn't really an appropriate flag for it... "noise" is the closest. I'd love there to be a "one link youtube" flag or even more general, "not very much content". posted by lupus_yonderboy at 8:09 AM on January 28, 2007
See, I was about 'meh' on this until about 2:09 in that video, when it gets a bit better.
And even then, if you just ignore the video, that track is better than the original by far.
So: this gets a "fun" and "quality" vote from me. Fuck the haters. posted by koeselitz at 8:18 AM on January 28, 2007
speaking of one link youtube posts of which the poster provides no context... i present to you the the muscle from brussels posted by phaedon at 8:23 AM on January 28, 2007
Am I the first to mention that this is somewhat 'gay'? Well, it is. posted by Turtles all the way down at 8:44 AM on January 28, 2007
That's the dude from the 7-up spots?! Kewl!
This is the gayest thing I've seen in a long time. I quite enjoyed it. Would equally love to rearrange what he did to make it nicer. I loved the way the graphics were working in the beginning part, but did not like the too-repeated pauses. Wanted the beat to steady down and let the graphics flash about to the beat.
As for those poor souls who call this a Grace Jones rip-off: Sorry, wrong number. Not even close. Grace is far more manly than this guy. Come to think of it, far more womanly, too.
It's campy, it's gay, it's well done. posted by Goofyy at 8:52 AM on January 28, 2007
gayer than a football bat. posted by jcterminal at 9:20 AM on January 28, 2007
imperiumwrites"I would love to find out that this din da da merchant was actually straight, just a lover of challenging stereotypes wherever he finds them."
Kevin Aviance is as queer as a three-dollar-bill shoved into a gay stripper's jockstrap by a huge flaming fag. posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 9:48 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
As long as we're doing the judging thing, here's my take: both of those videos (remake and original) suck, but for different reasons. That song is a completely un-coverable classic of club music, and, as such, can only be properly appreciated in a cavernous, pitch-black juice bar at 5 a.m..
And the link rules - thanks for the reminder of something excellent. Who cares about one-link Youtube posts? If there's anything wrong with MeFi, it's the absence of animated gifs.
There. I feel better. posted by facetious at 9:57 AM on January 28, 2007
Nobody had their panties in a wad until you decided to give me your little lesson in post #25.
I have labored on occasion to post a detailed, multi-link post that would meet your standards. Though, last night at 4:30 in the morning I stumbled across this piece of work after surfing music web-site for about 5 hours.
Last night, this was the best of my web. I didn't post it for MeFites to be entertained and say, "ohhh, what a queer-bag. Har, har, har." I posted it because when I fell upon it - not randomly searching YouTube - I watched it in awe about 5 or 6 times in a row. I then felt compelled to put it on the Blue. I posted it. Then I went to bed.
DOOM DOOM
My posting this link will not turn MetaFilter into a solely YouTube link site. Others are not going to stop posting more elaborate links and neither will I. (I have posted both single-links and more complicated ones in the past.)
I could have surrounded it with commentary about drag artists, this man's horrible beating (but, I didn't know about that), and the history of the song. Instead, I thought that the clip spoke for itself.
Also, I will note that quite a few different things ended up going on in this post despite the single link. I simply don't agree that tediously composed links entail the "best of the web."
RAT-A-TAT-A-TAT-A TAT-A-TAT-A TAT-A-TAT-TAT DA!!! posted by pwedza at 11:30 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
Dude, you need to accept the fact that you're going to take some flak when you post single links to minor pop culture trash.
And you need to accep that that is a good thing, or we'd see MeFi become a complete crapfest of one-links.
And let me ask you, lupus, why you didn't simply flag the post? posted by Astro Zombie at 7:56 AM PST on January 28 [+] [!]
Because the creation and maintenance of community standards is less pleasant and, I think, less effective when it is implemented through the use of totalitarian regime.
Flagging a post puts extra work on the admins and doesn't inform the rest of the community as to what is and is not acceptable.
OTOH, MeTa'ing is probably the better choice, rather than crapflood a thread like this.
Also, I liked the first (timewise) version better than the second. But the second does have a nice hat. posted by five fresh fish at 1:05 PM on January 28, 2007
I like the live version of Din Daa Daa. My mom often blasts her 12" 45 of the original when she vacuums haha.
the production values on the video place it in the early 90s, it seems.
Kranz did a new version in '91, so maybe that's the vid they released at the same time? posted by zarah at 1:57 PM on January 28, 2007
The original link was pretty worthless, for obvious reasons, but thanks very much to monju_bosatsu for finding the George Kranz original. I had never seen or heard that before and found it incredibly awesome. posted by metaplectic at 10:26 PM on January 28, 2007
obvious reasons: overly gay and campy while totally unmusical posted by metaplectic at 10:28 PM on January 28, 2007
When someone leaves a comment like "Gay." as if that's a statement with a certain amount of unspoken significance, that's because what isn't being spoken refers to and feeds off of the homophobia and xenophobia that is still alarming commonplace in our society. That person that says "Gay." doesn't have to convince you that what's being described is something to hate, something that's revolting or disgusting or something to fear, because that's the automatic assumption.
As someone who is gay, it is really infuriating to see the very 'community' that can so easily turn a blind eye to stupidity like this then turn around and act like it can really sympathize for Kevin Aviance's humanity when he was bashed. And I don't expect any of you to know who Rashawn Brazell was (or that Gothamist thought enough and still until this very day thinks enough of his humanity to portray him as a plastic bag when parts of him were found around New York horrifically dismembered almost two years ago and that his murder remains unsolved) - but guess what? Every time "Gay." becomes enough of a statement, you continue to create an environment that allows violence and murder based solely on someone's difference. You allow it. posted by dagarrat at 1:44 PM on January 29, 2007
I can’t agree with you that describing something that is indeed gay as gay creates an environment that allows violence and murder. Your statement is roughly equivalent to asserting that the video itself promotes violence and murder because it highlights someone’s difference that feeds homophobia and xenophobia. I like to think of gay as a good thing for people who enjoy teh gay. posted by found missing at 4:21 PM on January 29, 2007
And that's called being facetious. My statement has absolutely nothing to do with Kevin Aviance's video and you know it.
Case in point: when's the last time anyone commented on a topic with "Straight." being the complete statement? And why not? posted by dagarrat at 5:22 PM on January 29, 2007
I think you missed my point. Does highlighting ways that people are different create hate and trashbagging of human parts? I don't think so. posted by found missing at 5:47 PM on January 29, 2007
That's why I called your hollow comment facetious. We both know that when someone says "Gay." in that manner, it's not meant to merely highlight a difference. You want to be assume a safe environment that makes that particular difference one that's okay. I don't see where that assumption has any basis in our collective reality; I've mentioned Kevin Aviance's bashing and Rashawn Brazell's unsolved murder. You can probably Google many more instances of crimes like these, crimes that go unnoticed and usually unsolved, on your own time.
And excuse me if I choose not to play around and 'theorize' about these issues (ultimately issues that directly affect my own personal safety) with you or anybody else. If you have a salient point to make, make it. If not, you can hide behind your Internet identity and play that game all by yourself. posted by dagarrat at 6:21 PM on January 29, 2007
pwedza: uncalled-for rudeness. You probably spent four times as long writing hatemail as you did on the original post.
The fact is that metafilter is now too big for a regular person to read all of it. There are a few more exceptional postings -- there are a lot more bad postings.
By refusing to give us any indication why anyone should see your video, forcing us to click and watch a minute to find out, you're saying, "A few seconds of my time are worth more than a few minutes of thousands of other people's time."
Sure, I'm free not to click on your video. That's what spammers always say, "You can just press the delete key."
It was a bad post. You did the absolute minimum possible. The actual link was generic. And you were rude when you were called on it.
I've noticed a disturbing trend where the word "gay" has become a pejorative amongst even "hip" young people as in, "Oh, the party was so gay," (meaning "lame", not meaning that there's even one homosexual there).
I ask people about this every time, "Where did you hear that usage?" and they say, "Oh, it's nothing to do with being gay! It's just a word!" (but they'd never say, "He jewed me out of $20.") posted by lupus_yonderboy at 7:14 PM on January 29, 2007
Actually, yes, they would. I can state this with authority, at least for my neck of the woods: I have, in fact, had the conversation with a 15 year old girl about the use of those sorts of phrases. She used both terms frequently, as did her friends. posted by five fresh fish at 8:49 PM on January 29, 2007
I thought the phrase "that's gay" was more or less ubiquitous in the US. It doesn't mean "that has the quality of a homosexual male", it just means "that's ill-conceived or inane". posted by Burhanistan at 10:54 PM on January 29, 2007
Really? And so the thought process just stops just because you thought "Gay." just meant something less than something good? Replace "Gay." with something that you are and see how that feels. And then consider the realworld possibilities that exist and surround us when we all step away from our computers.
My point is that hate crimes don't just happen in a vacuum; they happen because there is a extant environment that allows them to happen when we dehumanize anyone bit by bit by just calling something "Gay." in a world that automatically dehumanizes anything that's considered to be gay. For you, it might be innocuous because you aren't gay, but what if you were? And what if you were walking down a dark street by yourself and four or five other people just said "Gay." and referred to you? Would it be innocuous then? No, it probably wouldn't - and it just might be threatening enough to be deadly ...
There are two reasons that make this conversation pathetic and pedantic in this space. One is that there are gay people right here up in MetaFilter who see "Gay." used to mean something less than human and say nothing. Two is that there are people up in here who might not be gay, but who have been perceived as gay, and who have personally felt dehumanized because of that perception of being less straight or less normal than everyone else - and who say nothing.
We make simple choices every day about things we like and things we don't like. These choices are reflected in our media, in our votes, in our language and in our everyday actions. We can choose to live in a society that is founded on the ubiquity of diversity - or not; the small, everyday things we do and say are direct reflections of that one choice. If you choose to use a term that refers to another human being and that term is not one of edification, then it is dehumanizing someone somewhere. We live within the reality of a choice to either edify everyone's humanity - or not. posted by dagarrat at 12:39 AM on January 30, 2007 [1 favorite]
what dagarrat said.
(this fight is one i gave up on years ago--every single high schooler says it all the time--i'm just hoping it'll go out of style soon) posted by amberglow at 1:58 PM on January 30, 2007
Oh, I think my tactic works well... "Gay? What do you mean?" and ask a few more earnest-seeming questions, ("But I thought gays partied better than straight people?")
I haven't pissed anyone off yet and at least I got 'em to think about it. Only one person figured out I was mocking 'em and they laughed... posted by lupus_yonderboy at 5:43 PM on January 30, 2007
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