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February 26, 2007 6:33 AM   Subscribe

Good artists copy. Great artists steal. -- Pablo Picasso
posted by borkencode (39 comments total)

 
Please summarize. I am not watching eight YouTube clips unless I have some idea why. Thank you.
posted by argybarg at 6:34 AM on February 26, 2007 [1 favorite]


[this is bad]

I hate YouTube only posts.

Especially when there are 8 clips to watch.
posted by gen at 6:36 AM on February 26, 2007


I'll translate.

"I, borkencode, believe that George Harrison's My Sweet Lord is a rip-off of The Chiffons' 'He's so Fine.' Furthermore, I believe that the Flaming Lips' 'Fight Test' is a ripoff of Cat Stevens' 'Father and Son.' If that weren't enough, Vanilla Ice's hit 'Ice Ice Baby' is in fact not an original composition but borrows heavily from Queen's 'Under Pressure.' Lastly, I close by reminding you that Marley's 'Buffalo Soldier' and the Banana Splits theme song share some disconcerting similarities."
posted by neustile at 6:42 AM on February 26, 2007 [2 favorites]


borkencode owes you five dollars.
posted by argybarg at 6:47 AM on February 26, 2007


Do they have title attributes in what?
posted by boo_radley at 6:48 AM on February 26, 2007 [1 favorite]


<3 neustile
posted by cavalier at 6:49 AM on February 26, 2007


Sheesh, could have linked to the much easier to understand "Daft Punk Samples".
posted by GuyZero at 6:50 AM on February 26, 2007 [2 favorites]


Thanks for this. As a recent arrival from the Paleolithic, I didn't already know about My Sweet Lord and Vanilla Ice.
posted by DU at 6:50 AM on February 26, 2007


If that weren't enough, Vanilla Ice's hit 'Ice Ice Baby' is in fact not an original composition but borrows heavily from Queen's 'Under Pressure.'

Which is the single most compelling argument for why this sort of derative "composition" should not only be illegal, but classified as a crime against humanity.
posted by three blind mice at 6:51 AM on February 26, 2007


Double.

That's a joke, son. Much like this post.
posted by languagehat at 6:57 AM on February 26, 2007


Save this kind of post for YouTubesday.
posted by Plutor at 7:18 AM on February 26, 2007


No, I'm overstepping my bounds to say that you are not allowed to do this. Youtube only posts aren't de facto bad, but there is no context here at all, and the implication "Great artists steal - Pablo Picasso" was some demonstration of how Picasso ripped someone else off, which is not what the links show (yes, I know he said the quote).

There is no way to skim a video clip, so the fpp has to provide more context than "mystery posts" that link to text or photos that are easily skimmed.
posted by Pastabagel at 7:19 AM on February 26, 2007


Do you guys really not get what this post is about or are you just playing dense? When someone posts here maybe you should focus more on clicking the links and less on complaining to hear the sound of your voice (its annoying for the rest of us). These videos were great, thanks brokencode
posted by petsounds at 7:36 AM on February 26, 2007


I fuckin' hate mystery posts.

*spits, shoots mystery post in the gut*

Now, if he'd a bin wearin' decent title attributes, I mighta said leave him be, but eight youtube links with no sign of where those links might lead?

*shoots mystery post right between its little close-set eyes*
posted by pracowity at 7:37 AM on February 26, 2007 [1 favorite]


Mystery posts can work if the poster has a decent reputation. But eight youtubes as a first post?
posted by R. Mutt at 7:43 AM on February 26, 2007


I'm with pracowity. When I'm in a good mood, I scan the title attributes or click on the More Inside to find out what a mystery post is really about. When I'm in a bad mood, I curse the poster and move on.
posted by grimmelm at 8:00 AM on February 26, 2007


Wow, that "Daft Punk Samples" thing really has me all conflicted about my love for Daft Punk. I knew about Cola Bottle Baby and HBFS.... but Digital Love? Robot Rock? Voyager? Crescendolls? EVERYTHING? AUGH!
posted by tehloki at 8:39 AM on February 26, 2007


It's OK, neustile cleared up the mystery.
posted by caddis at 9:01 AM on February 26, 2007


Everything everything everything
posted by Flashman at 9:02 AM on February 26, 2007


But how does to refer to the Bush invasion of Iraq?
posted by Postroad at 9:33 AM on February 26, 2007


Ok, so is it time to rediscuss Joe Rogan & Carlos Mencia yet? 'Cuz that never gets old.
Summary: cool kids don't steal. Mmmkay?
posted by miss lynnster at 9:34 AM on February 26, 2007


I don't care about the mystery, I care about the half-assery. "Ice Ice Baby" sounds like "Under Pressure"? OMG YOUR RIGHT I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT

Sheesh man, at least give us something kinda new like:

Stacey Ferguson: Fergalicious RIYL JJ Fadd: Supersonic
posted by 23skidoo at 9:38 AM on February 26, 2007


I can't figure out why you didn't use the original under pressure video.

And you need some Jimmy Page links, cause he was a thieving magpie if there ever was one.

And are you saying that Vanilla Ice is a great artist then?
posted by vronsky at 9:45 AM on February 26, 2007


I am also part of the grumbling mystery FPP mob. I'm going to look around for a pitchfork.
posted by rolypolyman at 9:57 AM on February 26, 2007


and the implication "Great artists steal - Pablo Picasso" was some demonstration of how Picasso ripped someone else off, which is not what the links show (yes, I know he said the quote).

Well, there's this.
posted by juv3nal at 10:08 AM on February 26, 2007


Lighten up, Francis.
posted by simonemarie at 10:18 AM on February 26, 2007


But you know, first post and all, I'm not trying to pile on.

And I never could figure out why Vanilla Ice was so vilified for that song. The entire canon of rap/hip hop is based on samples isn't it? It was a fun little pop song, but I have never been part of the authenticity equals art crowd.
posted by vronsky at 10:27 AM on February 26, 2007


I can't figure out why you didn't use the original under pressure video.

Actually, I thought Freddie Mercury's performance on the live video was well worth watching.
posted by treepour at 11:07 AM on February 26, 2007


Not to derail, and I can't access youtube here, so can't link it for you, but wasn't "Under Pressure" actually a David Bowie song? Oh wait, I see. Queen wrote, Bowie sang it with them.
posted by Lynsey at 11:09 AM on February 26, 2007


I think you could find many, many songs that are similar to the Cat Stevens one -- created both before and after it. It's a pretty common set of chords and structure.
posted by Trochanter at 11:57 AM on February 26, 2007


Some people try to pick up girls and get called asshole.
posted by thecaddy at 12:15 PM on February 26, 2007


Love the Buffalo Soldier. It's the only Yiddish-Rastafarian blend: "Oy, yoy, yoy. Oy, yoy, yoy, yoy. Oy, yoy, yoy, yoy, yoy, yoy, yoy, yoy!"
posted by Mental Wimp at 12:37 PM on February 26, 2007


And I never could figure out why Vanilla Ice was so vilified for that song.

For many, many reasons other than what it may have sampled.
posted by A Thousand Baited Hooks at 1:03 PM on February 26, 2007


Fair point treepour. I still love the video collage in the original version.


"For many, many reasons..."

such as?
posted by vronsky at 1:09 PM on February 26, 2007


I had a legitimate freak-out moment when I first heard the Cat Stevens song; I knew I'd heard that song somewhere else before. Then I dug around a bit and discovered that I wasn't the first to notice the similarity. Long story short: the Flaming Lips now pay Yusuf Islam royalties.
posted by grimmelm at 1:18 PM on February 26, 2007


Save this kind of post for YouTubesday your own blog.
posted by dobbs at 2:06 PM on February 26, 2007


After actually listening to the song with the Cockroach video, I have to retract. That's a rip.
posted by Trochanter at 2:39 PM on February 26, 2007


I think you could find many, many songs that are similar to the Cat Stevens one -- created both before and after it. It's a pretty common set of chords and structure.

But it's the melody, too. If you could sue solely over a chord progression, there wouldn't be many pop songs in the world.
posted by ludwig_van at 4:41 PM on February 26, 2007


thecaddy, apropos to the thread, I liked the burning sensations cover on the repo man soundtrack better. I'm not claiming they are great musicians, but I heard their version first.
posted by BrotherCaine at 4:56 PM on February 26, 2007


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