German army training
April 15, 2007 2:08 PM Subscribe
German army training to kill American blacks in the Bronx.
This post was deleted for the following reason: This is not a good post. -- cortex
Compare and contrast: the Germans are supposed to be our allies. And "Hadji Girl" wasn't officially sanctioned training.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 2:13 PM on April 15, 2007
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 2:13 PM on April 15, 2007
I can't wait for Toby Keith to write a response song about how the all-American blacks of the Bronx will rise up to fight back against the German occupation.
posted by dhartung at 2:15 PM on April 15, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by dhartung at 2:15 PM on April 15, 2007 [2 favorites]
And the moral of the story is: Never insult the mother of the person at the other end of the machine gun.
posted by sour cream at 2:17 PM on April 15, 2007
posted by sour cream at 2:17 PM on April 15, 2007
Think of blacks and shoot, German soldier told -- "Video of army instructor issuing racist order latest in string of incidents."
posted by ericb at 2:17 PM on April 15, 2007
posted by ericb at 2:17 PM on April 15, 2007
Whooo...
Metafilter: Bringing you the news 48 hours after CNN.com.
posted by mrmojoflying at 2:19 PM on April 15, 2007
Metafilter: Bringing you the news 48 hours after CNN.com.
posted by mrmojoflying at 2:19 PM on April 15, 2007
It would be interesting to know if any American blacks from the Bronx are currently serving in American military units in Germany. I'd bet there are at least a few.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 2:21 PM on April 15, 2007
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 2:21 PM on April 15, 2007
You suck, Den Beste.
posted by interrobang at 2:25 PM on April 15, 2007
posted by interrobang at 2:25 PM on April 15, 2007
You're sure they're German? Maybe they're Dutch and want New York back.
posted by jonmc at 2:26 PM on April 15, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by jonmc at 2:26 PM on April 15, 2007 [2 favorites]
Let's see. We have:
- A single-link
- news item
- posted some two days after its widespread syndication
- whose content is mischaracterized in a
- deliberately obtuse and provocative manner
- for no clear purpose other than to be a shit-disturber.
Congrats, man: that's the perfect - nay, the Platonic - fuckfecta.
posted by adamgreenfield at 2:27 PM on April 15, 2007 [4 favorites]
- A single-link
- news item
- posted some two days after its widespread syndication
- whose content is mischaracterized in a
- deliberately obtuse and provocative manner
- for no clear purpose other than to be a shit-disturber.
Congrats, man: that's the perfect - nay, the Platonic - fuckfecta.
posted by adamgreenfield at 2:27 PM on April 15, 2007 [4 favorites]
Huh.
And if you're going over the top anyway, why make sure to use the designation 'African Americans' instead of some of all the other words? Seems weird to me. (and terrible, yes. Flagged).
posted by AwkwardPause at 2:29 PM on April 15, 2007
And if you're going over the top anyway, why make sure to use the designation 'African Americans' instead of some of all the other words? Seems weird to me. (and terrible, yes. Flagged).
posted by AwkwardPause at 2:29 PM on April 15, 2007
SdB: It would be interesting to know if any American blacks from the Bronx are currently serving in American military units in Germany. I'd bet there are at least a few.
If so, they could retaliate: You are in Paffenkottenbitzenheim. Three white boys get out of a Mercedes and insult your mother ... Act!
AwkwardPause: Why make sure to use the designation 'African Americans' instead of some of all the other words?
Such as? 'African Americans' is the preferred nomenclature (I think), and apparently that's what the drill sergeant said.
posted by sour cream at 2:37 PM on April 15, 2007
If so, they could retaliate: You are in Paffenkottenbitzenheim. Three white boys get out of a Mercedes and insult your mother ... Act!
AwkwardPause: Why make sure to use the designation 'African Americans' instead of some of all the other words?
Such as? 'African Americans' is the preferred nomenclature (I think), and apparently that's what the drill sergeant said.
posted by sour cream at 2:37 PM on April 15, 2007
The Arab Mind is "probably the single most popular and widely read book on the Arabs in the US military". It is even used as a textbook for officers at the JFK special warfare school in Fort Bragg. The result is a collection of outrageously broad - and often suspect - generalisations. Patai asserts, for example, that Arabs "hate" the west... Positive characteristics are mentioned, but are given relatively short shrift.
General compares militants to 'Satan' Boykin had said, among other things, that Muslims worship an "idol," not a "real God," and that America's enemy in the fight with Islamic extremism was "a guy called Satan." His comments, captured on videotape, have been aired repeatedly on U.S. television.
The wide-ranging poll also shows that 58% of those serving in country say the U.S. mission in Iraq is clear in their minds... 85% said the U.S. mission is mainly "to retaliate for Saddam's role in the 9-11 attacks"
Rape fears lead women soldiers to suicide, death NEW YORK — U.S. female soldiers in Iraq were assaulted or raped by male soldiers in the women’s latrines, and an alarming number committed suicide... "In the 100 degree heat, they were dying of dehydration in their sleep."
The 2003 Military Times Poll reveals a military more conservative, more Republican, and one that considers itself to be morally superior to the nation its serves. Two-thirds said they think military members have higher moral standards than the nation they serve. More than 60 percent called the country's moral standards only fair or poor.
posted by Bletch at 2:39 PM on April 15, 2007 [2 favorites]
General compares militants to 'Satan' Boykin had said, among other things, that Muslims worship an "idol," not a "real God," and that America's enemy in the fight with Islamic extremism was "a guy called Satan." His comments, captured on videotape, have been aired repeatedly on U.S. television.
The wide-ranging poll also shows that 58% of those serving in country say the U.S. mission in Iraq is clear in their minds... 85% said the U.S. mission is mainly "to retaliate for Saddam's role in the 9-11 attacks"
Rape fears lead women soldiers to suicide, death NEW YORK — U.S. female soldiers in Iraq were assaulted or raped by male soldiers in the women’s latrines, and an alarming number committed suicide... "In the 100 degree heat, they were dying of dehydration in their sleep."
The 2003 Military Times Poll reveals a military more conservative, more Republican, and one that considers itself to be morally superior to the nation its serves. Two-thirds said they think military members have higher moral standards than the nation they serve. More than 60 percent called the country's moral standards only fair or poor.
posted by Bletch at 2:39 PM on April 15, 2007 [2 favorites]
Schwarzer, please.
posted by psmealey at 2:39 PM on April 15, 2007 [3 favorites]
posted by psmealey at 2:39 PM on April 15, 2007 [3 favorites]
What he actually said: "Sie sind jetzt in der Bronx. Ein schwarzer Van hält vor ihnen. Drei Afroamerikaner steigen aus und beleidigen ihre Mutter aufs Gröbste. Vor jedem Feuerstoß will ich ein lautes 'Motherfucker' hören."
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 2:40 PM on April 15, 2007
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 2:40 PM on April 15, 2007
Bletch: American blacks can now breath easier and no longer need feel any offense.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 2:42 PM on April 15, 2007
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 2:42 PM on April 15, 2007
Steven C. Den Beste: The fact is, this is largely a reflection of american media portrait of African Americans. You can't expect people in other countries to be sensitive to all the racial and ethnic taboos in the United States, because frankly, they're not. A lot of that is our fault.
In any event, even if this is considered generally poor form in Germany, it doesn't matter. It may just have been dreamed up by the guy giving the orders, not Andrea Merkel.
posted by delmoi at 2:44 PM on April 15, 2007
In any event, even if this is considered generally poor form in Germany, it doesn't matter. It may just have been dreamed up by the guy giving the orders, not Andrea Merkel.
posted by delmoi at 2:44 PM on April 15, 2007
preferred nomenclature
That's exactly the disconnect -- on the one hand he's playing on racist stereotypes, and on the other using the 'preferred nomenclature.'
posted by AwkwardPause at 2:46 PM on April 15, 2007
That's exactly the disconnect -- on the one hand he's playing on racist stereotypes, and on the other using the 'preferred nomenclature.'
posted by AwkwardPause at 2:46 PM on April 15, 2007
Steven: I'm an American black, and I'm not offended. So there.
posted by delmoi at 2:46 PM on April 15, 2007
posted by delmoi at 2:46 PM on April 15, 2007
(Well, I'm slightly offended, but I'm not going to get worked up about it)
posted by delmoi at 2:47 PM on April 15, 2007
posted by delmoi at 2:47 PM on April 15, 2007
Nice, fandango_matt. SDB, you should retitle your blog, man, serious.
posted by clockzero at 2:55 PM on April 15, 2007
posted by clockzero at 2:55 PM on April 15, 2007
AwkwardPause: That's exactly the disconnect -- on the one hand he's playing on racist stereotypes, and on the other using the 'preferred nomenclature.'
And what exactly is the stereotype? That black people drive vans? Or that they tend to use offensive language? -- Gee, I wonder where the drill sergeant got that one from...
posted by sour cream at 2:55 PM on April 15, 2007
And what exactly is the stereotype? That black people drive vans? Or that they tend to use offensive language? -- Gee, I wonder where the drill sergeant got that one from...
posted by sour cream at 2:55 PM on April 15, 2007
I am shocked - SHOCKED! - that a German army officer is exhibiting racist tendencies!
posted by LilBucner at 2:57 PM on April 15, 2007
posted by LilBucner at 2:57 PM on April 15, 2007
Don't get it. Is there something here? Maybe I'm just dumb.
posted by MarshallPoe at 2:59 PM on April 15, 2007
posted by MarshallPoe at 2:59 PM on April 15, 2007
And what exactly is the stereotype?
That black men in the Bronx are hostile and threatening. I'm sure that American DIs are much more culturally sensitive as it concerns the motivation and training of their own troops.
posted by psmealey at 3:00 PM on April 15, 2007
That black men in the Bronx are hostile and threatening. I'm sure that American DIs are much more culturally sensitive as it concerns the motivation and training of their own troops.
posted by psmealey at 3:00 PM on April 15, 2007
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posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 2:08 PM on April 15, 2007