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June 19, 2007 9:32 PM   Subscribe

Google went solar yesterday! Google's PV solar system went live yesterday (or at least the stats page did.) Also, they converted 100 Priuses to plug-in electric vehicles, to be recharged by the PV solar panels. Pictures.
posted by joeblough (25 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite

 
be sure to check the links on the PHEV page! they have daily stats showing all sorts of battery and car parameters arranged as nice graphs. its an OCD-fest!
posted by joeblough at 9:36 PM on June 19, 2007


who needs privacy when you have electric cars?
posted by b1tr0t at 10:17 PM on June 19, 2007


"don't be evil."

"you're evil. you keep people's search info forever, you helped china lock down its internet and your primary revenue stream is an opaque model inextricably associated with click fraud."

"oh, but we're green! see how green we are?"
posted by bruce at 10:44 PM on June 19, 2007


maybe S&L are just so guilty about all that privacy issues and all the chinese orphans they are torturing that they need to do this stuff in order to sleep at night.

seriously, i just thought the stats gathering on the non-PHEV prius and PHEV prius was pretty interesting, plus their PV power output page is pretty cool.
posted by joeblough at 10:54 PM on June 19, 2007


You've found them out, bruce. But, the Cult of Googlhu will never die till the stars come right again and the priests will take great Googlhu from His tomb to revive His subjects and resume His rule on Earth. The time will be easy to know, for mankind will have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and reveling in environmentalism.
posted by stavrogin at 11:45 PM on June 19, 2007 [2 favorites]


huh. I wondered why a friend at google sold his car a couple weeks ago and then had a picture of a prius in his photostream. I guess he got one of the recharge cars.

Plug-in hybrids are great, hopefully the costs come down on it someday though. Maybe this Google project will go towards that. I'd totally pay an extra $5k to convert to plug-in, but not $20k or whatever the kits are going for now.
posted by mathowie at 12:05 AM on June 20, 2007



Allright Google PR! Touchdown!
posted by From Bklyn at 2:03 AM on June 20, 2007


Oh, we're anti-Google now? I can't keep up with all the memos.
posted by kbanas at 5:11 AM on June 20, 2007 [3 favorites]


...your primary revenue stream is an opaque model inextricably associated with click fraud.

Wha? I thought their primary revenue streams were:

a) Ads, which show up in a separate, designated area both on their site and on other sites.

b) Specialized search hardware/software for intranets and suchlike.
posted by DU at 5:19 AM on June 20, 2007


If Google is evil, then what word would you use to describe Microsoft? ... Philip Morris? Dow Chemical? Lockheed Martin? Halliburton?

If privacy is a concern, use a proxy.

Anyway, i hope Google's evil plan to go green catches on!
posted by TechnoLustLuddite at 6:29 AM on June 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


Google only keeps your search info for 18 months.
posted by octothorpe at 6:46 AM on June 20, 2007


Anyway, i hope Google's evil plan to go green catches on!

It's not really green. More energy goes into the making of the solar photovoltaic solar panels than will ever be harvested from them. Not to mention the messy chemical byproducts of solar cell production.
posted by Doohickie at 6:56 AM on June 20, 2007


Oops... delete either the first or second solar from that. I care not which one.
posted by Doohickie at 6:57 AM on June 20, 2007


Doohickie, I've never heard that and find it hard to belive, do you have a reference?
posted by octothorpe at 6:59 AM on June 20, 2007


Doohickie, according to the DOE's National Renewable Energy Laboratory, photovoltaic cells will provide a net gain of energy for 26 to 29 years (pdf) of an assumed 30-year life span.
posted by zennie at 7:11 AM on June 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


More energy goes into the making of the solar photovoltaic solar panels than will ever be harvested from them.

I have heard this sorry pseudo stat rolled out on many previous occasions, also for wind, nuclear, etc. I'm sure Doohickie will happily withdraw it or come up with a peer reviewed write-up that refutes zennie though.
posted by biffa at 7:16 AM on June 20, 2007


More energy goes into the making of the solar photovoltaic solar panels than will ever be harvested from them.

False statement.
posted by DU at 7:16 AM on June 20, 2007


Doohickie is a broken record.
posted by prostyle at 7:54 AM on June 20, 2007


correction: after clicking around it seems that they have only converted 2 cars, but plan to do 100. oh well.
posted by joeblough at 7:55 AM on June 20, 2007


aaaand... correction to my correction:

nytimes.com story
posted by joeblough at 8:49 AM on June 20, 2007


Weather forecast: Mostly Cloudy.

oops.
posted by tadellin at 11:13 AM on June 20, 2007


This is very interesting. I'm wondering if the rooftop of one of those Sun Blackbox shipping container data center were covered in solar panels, would that be enough to power the entire data center?

That would be an interesting way to provide fully advanced information and communications technology to a place that had no infrastructure...
posted by Pastabagel at 11:27 AM on June 20, 2007


blackbox is 20'x8'x8', so the area of the roof is 160 square feet. i've read that solar gives you about 10W per square foot, so we're probably only talking about 1-1.5KW for that area, peak.

a fully loaded blackbox is designed to handle 200KW worth of equipment, and don't forget it needs cooling as well. its probably 400-500KW for the whole package...
posted by joeblough at 12:57 PM on June 20, 2007


The Sun Blackbox needs 500 kilowatts and solar panels give maybe 10-20 watts per sq-ft. The Blackbox is a 20' container with about a 160 sq ft roof which would only give 3KW - enough to boil a kettle.

I wonder what the initial cost of Google's solar panels were (which seemed to cover every available space on their roof), and how long it'll take to recoup that.
posted by JonB at 1:05 PM on June 20, 2007


Or what joeblough said.
posted by JonB at 1:06 PM on June 20, 2007


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