Kid Nation Shocker!
October 18, 2007 6:00 PM Subscribe
Kid Nation Shocker! slyt, 2 minutes. (FSM and MeFites forgive me.)
Why hasn't Kid Nation been cancelled yet? I'm not gonna watch it. You can't make me watch it. Nyah.
posted by ZachsMind at 6:05 PM on October 18, 2007
posted by ZachsMind at 6:05 PM on October 18, 2007
C'mon ZachsMind... do it... you know you wanna.
Think about it: Moonbird, unwilling to forgive. The Divine Miss L, saying "it's bad" TWICE. konolia calling it messed up. Click. Click the link. I dare ya. I triple-dog-dare ya!
posted by The Deej at 6:42 PM on October 18, 2007
Think about it: Moonbird, unwilling to forgive. The Divine Miss L, saying "it's bad" TWICE. konolia calling it messed up. Click. Click the link. I dare ya. I triple-dog-dare ya!
posted by The Deej at 6:42 PM on October 18, 2007
Heh, I got a chuckle out of it, but yeah - pretty bad.
posted by backseatpilot at 6:56 PM on October 18, 2007
posted by backseatpilot at 6:56 PM on October 18, 2007
Kid Nation Shocker!
I know what a shocker is, and that's just false advertising, dude.
posted by dhammond at 7:10 PM on October 18, 2007 [1 favorite]
I know what a shocker is, and that's just false advertising, dude.
posted by dhammond at 7:10 PM on October 18, 2007 [1 favorite]
hat u
posted by boo_radley at 7:12 PM on October 18, 2007
posted by boo_radley at 7:12 PM on October 18, 2007
Terrible. I expect quality in a single link YouTube post. Something like this, for example.
posted by maryh at 7:55 PM on October 18, 2007
posted by maryh at 7:55 PM on October 18, 2007
This post is a great time to admit that Kid Nation is every bit as bad-good as I ever hoped it would be. Viva Revolucion!
posted by skammer at 8:53 PM on October 18, 2007
posted by skammer at 8:53 PM on October 18, 2007
Well I only said "it's bad" twice as a lame Michael Jackson impression.
Actually I think Kid Nation isn't a bad show itself. I think it's had some really interesting moments. But then again, I often tend to think kids have better heads on their shoulders than adults do. At least they made a point to quickly oust little lazy brat "I'm more privileged than you & I'm in power so you'll do what I say" Taylor from leadership. Those kids threw that littleDecider darling right out on her "I'm a princess" rear pretty darn quick.
Meanwhile we'd have re-elected her.
posted by miss lynnster at 9:47 PM on October 18, 2007
Actually I think Kid Nation isn't a bad show itself. I think it's had some really interesting moments. But then again, I often tend to think kids have better heads on their shoulders than adults do. At least they made a point to quickly oust little lazy brat "I'm more privileged than you & I'm in power so you'll do what I say" Taylor from leadership. Those kids threw that little
Meanwhile we'd have re-elected her.
posted by miss lynnster at 9:47 PM on October 18, 2007
Yes, I know, Divine Miss L, but I will use any tactic... any... tactic... to compel ZacksMind to join us.
One of us... one of us... one of us...
I have seen a couple episodes, and did find it oddly compelling, but never felt it was worth the effort to hit the "record series" button on the Tifaux.
posted by The Deej at 10:22 PM on October 18, 2007
One of us... one of us... one of us...
I have seen a couple episodes, and did find it oddly compelling, but never felt it was worth the effort to hit the "record series" button on the Tifaux.
posted by The Deej at 10:22 PM on October 18, 2007
It would have been better if they just went straight for Lord of the Flies and cut the pretense.
posted by Kadin2048 at 10:25 PM on October 18, 2007
posted by Kadin2048 at 10:25 PM on October 18, 2007
Meanwhile we'd have re-elected her.
It's worth pointing out that both Taylor and one of her little brainwashed peons had brought out GWB as a leader worth emulating.
It was all very strange. It's always strange to see when people go out of their way to devalue intelligence and leadership as opposed to swagger and attitude - someone who takes a "hardline" attitude to criticism, but makes their own underclass do the actual work.
It was also strange when that one kid was ripping down Taylor's signs, and then Taylor pointed to one of her little friends and said, "hey, they're ripping down your sign." Because, no, that was your sign, Taylor, and now you just want someone else to deal with it.
posted by Sticherbeast at 10:39 PM on October 18, 2007
It's worth pointing out that both Taylor and one of her little brainwashed peons had brought out GWB as a leader worth emulating.
It was all very strange. It's always strange to see when people go out of their way to devalue intelligence and leadership as opposed to swagger and attitude - someone who takes a "hardline" attitude to criticism, but makes their own underclass do the actual work.
It was also strange when that one kid was ripping down Taylor's signs, and then Taylor pointed to one of her little friends and said, "hey, they're ripping down your sign." Because, no, that was your sign, Taylor, and now you just want someone else to deal with it.
posted by Sticherbeast at 10:39 PM on October 18, 2007
I know, wasn't her reference to W frightening? And the religion episode, when the kids all freaked out about kids of other religions praying together, some of the stuff they said, you KNOW they were repeating stupidity they heard elsewhere. And then in the end they were kids... and they became interested in eachother and it wasn't as big of a deal. It's always when kids start emulating grown ups that they act like the biggest jerks.
Listening to and watching Taylor was really frightening though... because it's so clear that she's a total product of her parents influence. Nobody comes out of the womb with those kinds of attitudes, saying those kinds of things. You just KNOW that her parents have drilled it into her mind that she's a Princess, a little superstar who is superior to all other children, and that rules for normal children don't apply to her.
It's amazing how people's adult personalities and social skills can seem almost visible at such a young age. (When I imagine her as an adult with decades of those priorities instilled in her, I can't help but picture her as a thrice divorced, french-manicured, fake-boobed, part-time real estate broker who wears way too much makeup, chews gum, and talks about herself all the time. YMMV.) Hopefully she'll learn some big lessons from this show, though, and it'll help her. Or maybe her family will do some damage control and give her some more sensible parenting after they see how poorly she came across. 'Cuz they REALLY need to stop telling that kid she's a Princess. It's not doing her any favors.
posted by miss lynnster at 11:59 PM on October 18, 2007
Listening to and watching Taylor was really frightening though... because it's so clear that she's a total product of her parents influence. Nobody comes out of the womb with those kinds of attitudes, saying those kinds of things. You just KNOW that her parents have drilled it into her mind that she's a Princess, a little superstar who is superior to all other children, and that rules for normal children don't apply to her.
It's amazing how people's adult personalities and social skills can seem almost visible at such a young age. (When I imagine her as an adult with decades of those priorities instilled in her, I can't help but picture her as a thrice divorced, french-manicured, fake-boobed, part-time real estate broker who wears way too much makeup, chews gum, and talks about herself all the time. YMMV.) Hopefully she'll learn some big lessons from this show, though, and it'll help her. Or maybe her family will do some damage control and give her some more sensible parenting after they see how poorly she came across. 'Cuz they REALLY need to stop telling that kid she's a Princess. It's not doing her any favors.
posted by miss lynnster at 11:59 PM on October 18, 2007
On second thought... it could be that I'm not picturing Taylor as an adult, I could be describing aspects of her mother that have been projected onto Taylor.
posted by miss lynnster at 12:01 AM on October 19, 2007
posted by miss lynnster at 12:01 AM on October 19, 2007
...who would put their kid through this kind of... Michael Jackson got within a hundred feet of my child I'd .... react poorly.
"Kid Nation" What. The. Fuck.
posted by From Bklyn at 12:18 AM on October 19, 2007
"Kid Nation" What. The. Fuck.
posted by From Bklyn at 12:18 AM on October 19, 2007
From Bklyn? You know that was fake, right? It's not a real plot twist?
posted by miss lynnster at 2:31 AM on October 19, 2007
posted by miss lynnster at 2:31 AM on October 19, 2007
Kid Nation occasionally has humorous moments.
Unlike, say, the linked video.
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 3:32 AM on October 19, 2007
Unlike, say, the linked video.
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 3:32 AM on October 19, 2007
From Bklyn? You know that was fake, right? It's not a real plot twist?
This must be some kind of milestone moment. An inability to not recognize sarcasm... So I've lost the point(s) of reference that would clue me into the fact that this would not happen.
Huh.
I figured the chunky editing was down to it being a promo. It all seems so grotesquely possible, otherwise. I've never heard of "Kid Nation" but it kind of seems no less sane than the next step - inviting Michael Jackson... Which brings me back to my original point - who would want their eleven year old on a TV reality show? Because the show is real?
Huh. Well, this has been fascinating.
posted by From Bklyn at 3:46 AM on October 19, 2007
This must be some kind of milestone moment. An inability to not recognize sarcasm... So I've lost the point(s) of reference that would clue me into the fact that this would not happen.
Huh.
I figured the chunky editing was down to it being a promo. It all seems so grotesquely possible, otherwise. I've never heard of "Kid Nation" but it kind of seems no less sane than the next step - inviting Michael Jackson... Which brings me back to my original point - who would want their eleven year old on a TV reality show? Because the show is real?
Huh. Well, this has been fascinating.
posted by From Bklyn at 3:46 AM on October 19, 2007
Better to watch the 2 minute highlights at the very least to see what the show is actually like.
I personally think it's a breath of fresh air in the TV schlock - especially reality show TV schlock. Watching, I can't help but think that inside every single adult is a kid exactly like those: that cries openly when hurt or scared, regardless of gender, and has an innate sense of good bad and fair.
At what age did adults get fucked up and drop that honest demeanor from age 12 and under and get completely wrapped around our axles in hidden agenda bullshit? Hell, I've been in trouble my entire life because I don't know how to drop that kidlike "here it is, world", offending more people than I can count by blurting out what I think & feel.
I was SO hoping Taylor would have her ass handed to her in the election. She perpetuates the southern princess stereotype. She's lazy, self entitled, and completely brainwashed. An original, useful thought has yet to come from her lips. And yeah - I totally thought the same thing about the sign, sticherbeast.
I had to LOL when one of them said, "George Bush is stupid but he still got to be president...".
It's amazing the fairness that permeates their decisions - like who gets the gold star. Kudos on Greg's winning this week, and his statement to the gang that he was so happy he could now go to college. That surly teen took a back seat for a minute - he'd worked hard for that thing and it showed.
And the religion show was very interesting - all the stress and contingency ballooned when they were just talking about it. When someone actually DID something (the bonfire), it went to acceptance, curiosity and learning.
I also like how they let others choose. Again, the bonfire invitations included, "it's ok if you don't want to come, but you can if you like." and Zach's campaigning, "..I just want you to remember that I'll work with you and if you vote for Taylor it will be more of the same...." (I don't remember exactly).
It's a good show (I like it, can you tell?!), give it a chance. Bet you'll reflect more than you think.
posted by yoga at 5:30 AM on October 19, 2007
I personally think it's a breath of fresh air in the TV schlock - especially reality show TV schlock. Watching, I can't help but think that inside every single adult is a kid exactly like those: that cries openly when hurt or scared, regardless of gender, and has an innate sense of good bad and fair.
At what age did adults get fucked up and drop that honest demeanor from age 12 and under and get completely wrapped around our axles in hidden agenda bullshit? Hell, I've been in trouble my entire life because I don't know how to drop that kidlike "here it is, world", offending more people than I can count by blurting out what I think & feel.
I was SO hoping Taylor would have her ass handed to her in the election. She perpetuates the southern princess stereotype. She's lazy, self entitled, and completely brainwashed. An original, useful thought has yet to come from her lips. And yeah - I totally thought the same thing about the sign, sticherbeast.
I had to LOL when one of them said, "George Bush is stupid but he still got to be president...".
It's amazing the fairness that permeates their decisions - like who gets the gold star. Kudos on Greg's winning this week, and his statement to the gang that he was so happy he could now go to college. That surly teen took a back seat for a minute - he'd worked hard for that thing and it showed.
And the religion show was very interesting - all the stress and contingency ballooned when they were just talking about it. When someone actually DID something (the bonfire), it went to acceptance, curiosity and learning.
I also like how they let others choose. Again, the bonfire invitations included, "it's ok if you don't want to come, but you can if you like." and Zach's campaigning, "..I just want you to remember that I'll work with you and if you vote for Taylor it will be more of the same...." (I don't remember exactly).
It's a good show (I like it, can you tell?!), give it a chance. Bet you'll reflect more than you think.
posted by yoga at 5:30 AM on October 19, 2007
Kid Nation is actually worth watching. The kids (8-14) have had to face some tough conditions. They have had to haul all the water they use from one well and have had to cook and clean up after themselves. One day a windstorm blew down all their porta-potties and they righted them despite getting visibly sick. They also made some tough decisions.
For instance, when they chose to kill two of their chickens to have meat for the first time, one of the kids was very upset and went into active resistance. Every single kid had to face the dilemma of killing versus eating and I don't think that they will all come back from the show as vegetarians.
The kid's leaders also chose toothbrushes over a prepared all-you-can-eat barbecue, despite having had to put up with pretty wretched and limited food for several weeks. The decisions in the reelections were also quite surprising. One kid who had worked hard as a leader (not Taylor) didn't get a single vote for reelection. Another who seemed very ineffective to me (Anjay) won his reelection without a problem, perhaps relying on a sympathy or fear vote after he looked ready to go postal. Figuring out these election dynamics is a lot more interesting than watching the current pre-2008 election debates.
I've been watching the show with my 11 year old and we've had a lot of good discussions as a result. I hope the show continues.
posted by notmtwain at 5:41 AM on October 19, 2007 [1 favorite]
For instance, when they chose to kill two of their chickens to have meat for the first time, one of the kids was very upset and went into active resistance. Every single kid had to face the dilemma of killing versus eating and I don't think that they will all come back from the show as vegetarians.
The kid's leaders also chose toothbrushes over a prepared all-you-can-eat barbecue, despite having had to put up with pretty wretched and limited food for several weeks. The decisions in the reelections were also quite surprising. One kid who had worked hard as a leader (not Taylor) didn't get a single vote for reelection. Another who seemed very ineffective to me (Anjay) won his reelection without a problem, perhaps relying on a sympathy or fear vote after he looked ready to go postal. Figuring out these election dynamics is a lot more interesting than watching the current pre-2008 election debates.
I've been watching the show with my 11 year old and we've had a lot of good discussions as a result. I hope the show continues.
posted by notmtwain at 5:41 AM on October 19, 2007 [1 favorite]
It's funny because Michael Jackson molests children!!!!!1
..or y'know, he doesn't.
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 7:15 AM on October 19, 2007
..or y'know, he doesn't.
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 7:15 AM on October 19, 2007
Kid Nation does show how kid's can completely CHANGE when there's money or reward or power involved... Witness Greg and the Gold Star.
posted by fe2dell at 7:02 PM on October 19, 2007
posted by fe2dell at 7:02 PM on October 19, 2007
I still haven't clicked on the link. I have resisted the temptation. I will not capitulate!
posted by ZachsMind at 8:35 PM on October 19, 2007
posted by ZachsMind at 8:35 PM on October 19, 2007
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