The metafilter of extremism

February 15, 2008 8:46 AM

Suicide bombers in Valhalla "Sverige fights back! I'll see the heroes in Valhalla, inshallah." Where can you find an eclectic mix of Fascists, Libertarian Socialists, Trotskyists, National Anarchists, DPRK apologists, Dixie lovers, Christian Reconstructionists and Islamists all in one place?

I apologize if this violates the rules. I know we're not keen on linking to neo-nazi type stuff. But the mix of various views here -- far left and right, and not all necessarily authoritarian, seems intriguing. How do they manage to keep it all from imploding? The civility in dialogue across all the various ideologies is amazing...

posted by symbioid (20 comments total)

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posted by loquacious at 8:50 AM on February 15, 2008

duly noted and added ;)

What made me think of metafilter was this particular quote:

"The irony, though, of nazi violence against autonomous Marxists taking place in a shopping mall is delicious."

The snark made me feel uneasily at home...
posted by symbioid at 8:54 AM on February 15, 2008 [1 favorite]

Where can you find an eclectic mix of Fascists, Libertarian Socialists, Trotskyists, National Anarchists, DPRK apologists, Dixie lovers, Christian Reconstructionists and Islamists all in one place?

Ah, so its the "hell" Pat Robertson tells us about. Where's the fags?
posted by Bathtub Bobsled at 9:01 AM on February 15, 2008 [1 favorite]

The now-defunct Red Action forums (closure notice) had a similar interesting mix. Red Action were one of the mainstays of Anti-Fascist Action in the UK, so they'd had some full and forthright interpersonal "discussions" with the types they were debating there.
posted by Abiezer at 9:26 AM on February 15, 2008

MetaFilter: stand perfectly still until the retina-scan clears you to pass.
posted by not_on_display at 10:08 AM on February 15, 2008

"Sverige fights back"? Sweden fights back? Wut?
posted by pyrex at 10:09 AM on February 15, 2008

"National Anarchism" is every bit the contradiction-in-terms that "anarcho-capitalism" is.
posted by Pope Guilty at 10:14 AM on February 15, 2008

I don't know if I fully agree with that comment, Pope, as it takes the concept of federation of that Bakunin was so fond of, and puts it into a racist perspective.

I'm not saying I like it, not at all... But I think they do think of it in anarchist terms.

I note you also think anarcho-primitivism isn't anarchism. I think you tend to have a very orthodox allowance for the term "anarchy" ;)


Pyrex, yes that is the kind of thought on the boards. Swedish nationalists, who, for some reason, invoke an Arab god. Damn shame on the Red Action forums, as it would be interesting to see the debate there. I'm always amused by factionalism. You guys are gonna conquer the world, yet you're busy dancing around semantic issues of whether Soviet Russia was State Capitalist or a Degenerated Worker's Society? BWWAHAHHA
posted by symbioid at 10:25 AM on February 15, 2008

Wow. I have no idea how the physical anthropology and antiracist guys get on - they're certainly more ruthlessly civil than Mefites.
posted by nicolas léonard sadi carnot at 10:27 AM on February 15, 2008

Satan not divided against Satan, perhaps?
posted by konolia at 10:37 AM on February 15, 2008

Swedish nationalists, who, for some reason, invoke an Arab god.

Odin is spinning in his grave on the gallows of Yggdrasil.
posted by CKmtl at 10:53 AM on February 15, 2008

I don't get this. And thus, it scares it me. BURN IT! BURN IT ALL DOWN!
posted by PostIronyIsNotaMyth at 11:10 AM on February 15, 2008

Wow. I have no idea how the physical anthropology and antiracist guys get on - they're certainly more ruthlessly civil than Mefites.

A facade of civility is necessary in such situations.
posted by Pope Guilty at 11:12 AM on February 15, 2008

I don't get this. And thus, it scares it me. BURN IT! BURN IT ALL DOWN!

No, actually, the Norse vision of the End Times involved ice. Lots and lots of ice.

To judge from some of the forum titles, this lot could use an Ice Giant or two.
posted by jrochest at 11:25 AM on February 15, 2008

symboid - if you follow the archives link on that page you can still read the discussions at Red Action - some of it was very good.
posted by Abiezer at 11:29 AM on February 15, 2008

I object to this mix.
posted by eclectist at 11:49 AM on February 15, 2008

Weird site. I didn't see any flameouts, everyone seems perfectly sensible and well-mannered, there are links to some interesting news stories....and then here and there a thread like 'scientific proof that women are natural prostitutes' or comments like 'of course Indians prefer fairer-skinned women, the darker ones are more primitive'.

Do Not Want.
posted by Infinite Jest at 12:31 PM on February 15, 2008

I'd have to say that this is the first time in a looooong time I've actually been stunned by a site. It took me about maybe an hour to even come to grips with the fact that something like this exists. I've seen a lot of shit on the net. I don't think goatse even fucked me up (at least for as long a time) as this place did.

What is that thing where you're both drawn and compelled to look, but know you should look away? Like a car wreck? The one I'm reading now is something about how this guy supports Obama because a couple Jewish writers wrote an article stating their concerns over his demogoguery. Like 'Hey! Jews say he's bad, he must be good!" Well, I suppose they're willing to vote in a black guy. If Coulter can support Hillary, I suppose it's possible that a white nationalist can support Barack.

The worst I saw on there was someone arguing that Sex Slavery is better than Prostitution. Really sad that people think like that (well, fuck, it's a board populated by fascists and nazis, what should I expect, I guess)...

The other gem was a youtube video of police state tactics in the US contrasting it with the "Aw shucks, Beav" family frollicking in the green city and picnics of DPRK propaganda, saying that it was proof... *proof*!!! That the US are liars and more evil than the DPRK.
posted by symbioid at 1:09 PM on February 15, 2008

The youtube video that symbioid linked to was posted by this guy. A big, big fan of the dear leader and his father the great leader. One of his favorited videos was this. North Korean karaoke. I'm not really sure the world is ready for that...
posted by razorian at 5:21 PM on February 15, 2008

From a learned discussion on how non-Europeans allegedly can't tolerate cold climates:

The kikes on television will always tell you "it's going to be beautiful weather" when it's going to be hot and sunny, because they know that weather will attract kikes and niggers who will rob and rape whites.

Pitch-black niggers need vitamin D in northern countries, which the kike doctors will hand out to them.

Gee. What a charming and articulate bunch.
posted by jason's_planet at 6:05 PM on February 15, 2008