Closing Guantánamo
December 30, 2008 10:00 PM Subscribe
hmmm...maybe they could move in with violet blue.
posted by sexyrobot at 10:36 PM on December 30, 2008
posted by sexyrobot at 10:36 PM on December 30, 2008
Hopefully free anger management classes for life is part of the deal.
posted by BrotherCaine at 10:58 PM on December 30, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by BrotherCaine at 10:58 PM on December 30, 2008 [1 favorite]
Give them houses on my block: If they're innocent--I have interesting neighbors. If they're terrorists-- my hood is safe.
posted by sourwookie at 1:49 AM on December 31, 2008
posted by sourwookie at 1:49 AM on December 31, 2008
If you break it, you bloody well fix it.
Coming from a place where some of those 300 prisoners may be returned, I would say those that are tried fairy and found innocent, ought to be compensated monetarily and by being given US residence or citizenship, based on the following principle: if you break something, you fix it. The innocent people who were picked up and sent to Gitmo are damaged goods, having been sexually assaulted, water-boarded and lord knows what else. The society that must bear the cost of rehabilitating them, and bear the risk of them going postal, is the the society that rendered them such.
With respect to those who are found to have been enemy combatants for Al-Qaeda or the Taliban in the strict sense defined in the article, Mr. Cole's prescription is fairly reasonable. Eric Posner's, conversely, makes little sense and indulges in thinly-veiled, but not rationally supported, anti-Islamism (Islamophobia, makes it sound as though the prejudice/fear is legit).
posted by Azaadistani at 2:22 AM on December 31, 2008 [4 favorites]
Coming from a place where some of those 300 prisoners may be returned, I would say those that are tried fairy and found innocent, ought to be compensated monetarily and by being given US residence or citizenship, based on the following principle: if you break something, you fix it. The innocent people who were picked up and sent to Gitmo are damaged goods, having been sexually assaulted, water-boarded and lord knows what else. The society that must bear the cost of rehabilitating them, and bear the risk of them going postal, is the the society that rendered them such.
With respect to those who are found to have been enemy combatants for Al-Qaeda or the Taliban in the strict sense defined in the article, Mr. Cole's prescription is fairly reasonable. Eric Posner's, conversely, makes little sense and indulges in thinly-veiled, but not rationally supported, anti-Islamism (Islamophobia, makes it sound as though the prejudice/fear is legit).
posted by Azaadistani at 2:22 AM on December 31, 2008 [4 favorites]
Yes. Treating them (finally) like human beings is the least we can do.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 3:40 AM on December 31, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Kirth Gerson at 3:40 AM on December 31, 2008 [1 favorite]
Cole chooses to ignores the essential fact. The United States *is not* at War.
Only Congress can declare War. Congress has not declared War. Therefore the suggestion that extraordinary Wartime measures are somehow required is laughable.
Or would be if the deprivation of Due Process and Equal Protection hasn't been denied to hundreds if not thousands of people.
posted by mikelieman at 4:40 AM on December 31, 2008 [2 favorites]
Only Congress can declare War. Congress has not declared War. Therefore the suggestion that extraordinary Wartime measures are somehow required is laughable.
Or would be if the deprivation of Due Process and Equal Protection hasn't been denied to hundreds if not thousands of people.
posted by mikelieman at 4:40 AM on December 31, 2008 [2 favorites]
Only Congress can declare War.
Yes, you are right on that account.
posted by Pollomacho at 4:48 AM on December 31, 2008
Yes, you are right on that account.
posted by Pollomacho at 4:48 AM on December 31, 2008
300 Gitmo detainees get a house in Williamsburg and find out what happens when people stop being polite and start getting real.
posted by geoff. at 7:21 AM on December 31, 2008
posted by geoff. at 7:21 AM on December 31, 2008
Oh, I know! Send them to a new high security prison! Yay, upgrade!
posted by SneakyArab at 7:48 AM on December 31, 2008
posted by SneakyArab at 7:48 AM on December 31, 2008
"300 Gitmo detainees get a house in Williamsburg and find out what happens when people stop being polite and start getting real."
I like that one. But I was thinking Real World: G.W. Bush Retirement Home.
posted by noriyori at 11:57 AM on December 31, 2008 [1 favorite]
I like that one. But I was thinking Real World: G.W. Bush Retirement Home.
posted by noriyori at 11:57 AM on December 31, 2008 [1 favorite]
David Cole: What to Do About the Torturers?
posted by homunculus at 8:00 PM on December 31, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by homunculus at 8:00 PM on December 31, 2008 [1 favorite]
The idea of giving sociopaths a playground dungeon to torture in has always disturbed me. I mean, even if you can handwave away the ineffectiveness and immorality of torture, do you really want to work in an organization that employs torturers? Do you want those torturers retiring from military life into your community? Interacting with your friends and loved ones?
posted by BrotherCaine at 4:11 AM on January 1, 2009
posted by BrotherCaine at 4:11 AM on January 1, 2009
Obama’s Gitmo? District Court to Hear Cases of Prisoners in Afghanistan Held by U.S.
posted by homunculus at 8:08 PM on January 7, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by homunculus at 8:08 PM on January 7, 2009 [1 favorite]
Barack Obama will issue an executive order within days of entering the White House to close the Guantanamo detention centre, senior advisers have confirmed.
posted by homunculus at 9:17 AM on January 13, 2009
posted by homunculus at 9:17 AM on January 13, 2009
Judge Orders Release of Guantanamo's Forgotten Child
posted by homunculus at 11:46 AM on January 15, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by homunculus at 11:46 AM on January 15, 2009 [1 favorite]
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