knives in bed, rocks in head

June 9, 2009 5:29 PM

"Bring An End To This False Prophet Obama"

Jon Voight speaks at Annual GOP Fund-Raiser

Also:

"bowing to the Saudi king is not an energy policy" by Newt Gingrich
(full transcript: part 1 part 2 part 3 part 4 part 5 part 6)

posted by sloe (125 comments total)

Angelina Jolie will have to adopt, like, 5 more kids to make up for her dad.
posted by nasreddin at 5:35 PM on June 9, 2009 [12 favorites]

Haha, well, Jon Voight is reduced to being identified as "Jon Voight, Angelina Jolie's father" now, that should say something about his influence and notability.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 5:35 PM on June 9, 2009 [8 favorites]

He was awesome in Midnight Cowboy. I'd like to see that one screened at a GOP fundraiser.
posted by grounded at 5:39 PM on June 9, 2009 [28 favorites]

What's that, did someone say something? I was just over there, in the corner, praying to my shrine of Lord Jeebus Obama. For He is the Annointed One, it is written. Allah Akbama.
posted by billysumday at 5:41 PM on June 9, 2009 [8 favorites]

The right is really putting in overtime perpetuating the "Obama is a failure" meme from every conceivable soapbox and megaphone. And so early!

Did they do this with Carter too or did he meet them halfway alot?
(I'm only really old enough to remember how they tore after Clinton)
posted by Senor Cardgage at 5:41 PM on June 9, 2009

Imagine being a smart, well-reasoned, contemplative Republican right now. It must be hard to have these jokers running around spouting utter nonsense all the time.
posted by billysumday at 5:42 PM on June 9, 2009 [6 favorites]

Ideologues are so tiring. I don't care which stripe they come from.
posted by collywobbles at 5:43 PM on June 9, 2009 [3 favorites]

"Sometimes we make movies and they're just, so, relevant." Truly, art predicting life. Or re-enacting life?

Wait, wait, wait.

Did John Voight imply that the Democrats are like the Japanese who attacked Pearl Harbor? And the scared Republicans must fight back, to win the day and get the girl?
posted by filthy light thief at 5:44 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

Is snakes out there this big?
posted by xmutex at 5:45 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

I guess I'll have to sell the LeBaron.
posted by box at 5:46 PM on June 9, 2009 [3 favorites]

"bowing to the Saudi king is not an energy policy" by Newt Gingrich

Up to the word "by" I was nodding in complete agreement. Then my head aspoloded.
posted by DU at 5:46 PM on June 9, 2009

Checking...0%
Checking...50%
Checking...100%

Nope, I still don't give a shit what celebrities think about politics.
posted by Inspector.Gadget at 5:49 PM on June 9, 2009 [11 favorites]

Did they do this with Carter too

Yes. Bush the elder (then a private citizen) struck an arms and cash deal with Iran to keep the American hostages in Tehran until after the 1980 election. They were magically released the day Reagan was inaugurated. Not too obvious, was it?
posted by Zambrano at 5:50 PM on June 9, 2009 [14 favorites]

Mr Voight, you're dead to me, boy. You're more dead to me than your dead mother.
posted by spiderskull at 5:51 PM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]

"bowing to the Saudi king is not an energy policy" by Newt Gingrich

As opposed to kissing and holding hands with him, naturally.
posted by scody at 5:53 PM on June 9, 2009 [14 favorites]

Have we reached the point yet where "lolpublicans" is as common as "lolxtians?"

Or is that the same thing?

Seriously, though, there are going to be morons who say moronic things about politicians you support. Why help them get more attention?
posted by Joey Michaels at 5:53 PM on June 9, 2009

He was awesome in Midnight Cowboy. I'd like to see that one screened at a GOP fundraiser.

Gaddammit, grounded, you stole my comment from me!

And Voight weren't no slouch in Deliverance, neither.

I'm so out of it on celebs, though, I didn't even know until now that he's Jolie's dad.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:53 PM on June 9, 2009

Did they do this with Carter too or did he meet them halfway alot?

MEOW.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 5:55 PM on June 9, 2009

Wow, you get vomited half alive out of a giant anaconda and your politics get all screwy. Go figure.
posted by PenDevil at 5:55 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

"blowing the Saudi king is not an energy policy"
posted by unmake at 5:57 PM on June 9, 2009

Imagine being a smart, well-reasoned, contemplative Republican right now.

I'm trying real hard but the picture is dim and fuzzy.
posted by doctor_negative at 6:00 PM on June 9, 2009 [13 favorites]

Oh and by "meeting halfway" I meant "failing in a way that made him easy to mock like this"

Just to be clear.
posted by Senor Cardgage at 6:02 PM on June 9, 2009

Whatever happened to The Legend of Simon Conjurer? Was that even a real movie?
posted by GavinR at 6:02 PM on June 9, 2009

That video has been watched 496 times. 496 is a rounding error compared to Obama's Cairo speech.
posted by R. Mutt at 6:04 PM on June 9, 2009 [3 favorites]

Oh and by "meeting halfway" I meant "failing in a way that made him easy to mock like this"

I think Carter was mocked, in many ways, because he was so brazenly optimistic, wide-eyed and decidedly unsavvy. Imagine a president more progressive than Obama but without any degree of coolness. A guy with a big toothy grin, who wore brown shoes with blue suits, who spoke with a Georgian drawl and told goofy stories about canoeing and attack rabbits. Carter had his share of failures (the botched Iran hostage rescue springs to mind) but a lot of them were due to the right refusing to cooperate with him. The man tried, goodness knows, he tried.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 6:08 PM on June 9, 2009 [12 favorites]

Yes. Bush the elder (then a private citizen) struck an arms and cash deal with Iran to keep the American hostages in Tehran until after the 1980 election. They were magically released the day Reagan was inaugurated. Not too obvious, was it?

You're behind the times in conspiracy theories, 9/11 troof is the big rage these days.
posted by Krrrlson at 6:11 PM on June 9, 2009

As one who was involved in the last election for over two years, and gave about 1/10th of my 2008 income to BHO, I feel I have a duty to say I love Jon Voight.
And I don't love 'Bama no more...
posted by dawson at 6:12 PM on June 9, 2009

Imagine a president more progressive than Obama but without any degree of coolness. A guy with a big toothy grin, who wore brown shoes with blue suits, who spoke with a Georgian drawl and told goofy stories about canoeing and attack rabbits.

Done and done.
posted by DU at 6:13 PM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]

I'm inclined to think the all the name calling and absurd pronunciations ("He's a socialist! He's a Muslim! He's not even an American!") are just an indication of how little these guys have to work with. And the more Obama maintains his popularity, the more days that pass without the country falling apart, and the longer he keeps his cool about it, the more frustrated and loony the Republican noise machine gets.

On the other hand, there were people pushing the "he's a failure," line a week after Obama took office. For a true believer, I suppose the idea of "relatively young African American Democrat = enough sense to find his way out of a paper bag" is too much for their brains to handle.
posted by jal0021 at 6:13 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

Did they do this with Carter too or did he meet them halfway alot?

Carter had the hostage crisis to deal with- and that was grist to the republican mill - so in the space of one term he aged about a million years.

And, only pinko, namby pamby, liberal, homosexuals meet anyone half way.
posted by mattoxic at 6:14 PM on June 9, 2009

It's funny that Jon Voight said that because after I saw Anaconda, I prayed for an end to Jon Voight's acting career.
posted by Effigy2000 at 6:16 PM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]

I watched some other videos of him on the same channel, as well. How very sad. He's done great work as an actor. This speech was beyond embarrassing. And he voluntarily put himself in the company of the lowest demagogues by name-checking Malkin, Hannity, Beck and so on. I don't say this as an insult at all, but I have an odd feeling watching and listening to him. Alzheimer's. Shades of Charlton Heston.
posted by VikingSword at 6:16 PM on June 9, 2009

I used to like and respect Jon Voight. He once talked about choosing roles so he could feel like his choice to be an actor was a worthy thing. I quess its obvious that this was a looong time ago.
posted by pointilist at 6:17 PM on June 9, 2009

And I don't love 'Bama no more...

Roll Tide, then?
posted by Horace Rumpole at 6:18 PM on June 9, 2009 [5 favorites]

The really hilarious (and by "hilarious" I mean "incredibly frustrating") thing is how the attacks are self-contradictory and yet no one (on the right or in the media, to the extent those are separate categories) really cares. He's a Muslim with a controversial Christian pastor. He's an elitist downtrodden minority hellbent on getting back at whitey (ps he's not really black). He's a complete failure who has completely transformed the nation into socialism in mere months.
posted by DU at 6:19 PM on June 9, 2009 [50 favorites]

VikingSword: "This speech was beyond embarrassing."

He was a little standoffish.
posted by Joe Beese at 6:21 PM on June 9, 2009

The chicken's already headless. He's still running around because he doesn't know he's dead yet. Give it a minute.

I am really, really enjoying watching a tinier and tinier fraction of the far right stroking the fears of a tinier and tinier fraction of the electorate. Pretty soon it'll be down to two old white guys sitting in a camera-filled room, fulminating at one another in a spittle-flecked rage over who's got the biggest boner for Aryan Jesus. While the rest of the world passes them by, as it should be.

To quote that great American philosopher, Jonathan Richman, "Bye bye, old world."
posted by BitterOldPunk at 6:26 PM on June 9, 2009 [4 favorites]

Craig T. Nelson, appearing on the Glenn Beck show: "I've been on food stamps and welfare, did anybody help me out? No. No."
posted by billysumday at 6:27 PM on June 9, 2009 [14 favorites]

Aw, Coach? Et tu?
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 6:29 PM on June 9, 2009

I am really, really enjoying watching a tinier and tinier fraction of the far right stroking the fears of a tinier and tinier fraction of the electorate. Pretty soon it'll be down to two old white guys sitting in a camera-filled room, fulminating at one another in a spittle-flecked rage over who's got the biggest boner for Aryan Jesus. While the rest of the world passes them by, as it should be.


President of Exchange: [Randolph Duke has just collapsed with shock] Mortimer, your brother is not well. We better call an ambulance.

Mortimer Duke: Fuck him! Now, you listen to me! I want trading reopened right now. Get those brokers back in here! Turn those machines back on!

[shouts - it echoes pathetically throughout the trading hall]

Mortimer Duke: Turn those machines back on!
posted by Senor Cardgage at 6:29 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

Did they do this with Carter too

They managed to convince people that the faithful church going, married to the girl next door, successful small business owner, ex-Navy officer Carter was an anti-family, anti-business, anti-religion, anti-military wimp. And that a non-veteran, non-church going, divorced Holywood actor was the pro-family, pro-military, pro-business, tough guy candidate.

And that was before talk radio, blogs, cable news or twitter.
posted by octothorpe at 6:30 PM on June 9, 2009 [96 favorites]

I love that Bush isn't responsible for 9-11 because he was only in office for 8 months, yet everything that's going bad right now is Obama's fault because he's been office for a little over half that time.
posted by MegoSteve at 6:33 PM on June 9, 2009 [17 favorites]

BitterOldPunk: " it'll be down to two old white guys sitting in a camera-filled room, fulminating at one another in a spittle-flecked rage over who's got the biggest boner for Aryan Jesus."

Sean Hannity will be one of them.
posted by Joe Beese at 6:33 PM on June 9, 2009 [3 favorites]

"I've been on food stamps and welfare, did anybody help me out? No. No."

I thought that said it all, until I clicked through and saw the eyebrows. THAT says it all. Crazy old man.
posted by DU at 6:33 PM on June 9, 2009

The really hilarious (and by "hilarious" I mean "incredibly frustrating") thing is how the attacks are self-contradictory and yet no one (on the right or in the media, to the extent those are separate categories) really cares.

Then you'll enjoy today's insight, also, from that mavericky little governor of Alaska, right there.

Getting the RNC to pay for your wardrobe: $150,000.
Doublethink worthy of Orwell: priceless.

on preview: Craig T. Nelson, appearing on the Glenn Beck show: "I've been on food stamps and welfare, did anybody help me out? No. No."

100 bonus points (and a dozen angry skeletons from a desecrated Indian burial ground) for TV's Coach for contradicting himself within the same sentence!
posted by scody at 6:33 PM on June 9, 2009 [9 favorites]

John Voight is such a nobody. Who even cares? He one good movie and he gets an attitude?
posted by caddis at 6:34 PM on June 9, 2009

one good movie and he gets an attitude?

Two. Two good movies.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 6:35 PM on June 9, 2009

One of the tragedies of Ron Silver's passing is that the Republican Party lost a full 25% of its Hollywood support. Now it's down to Jon Voight, Chuck Norris and that guy from Coach.
posted by MegoSteve at 6:36 PM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]

Dennis Miller doesn't count?
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 6:37 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

Don't forget Gary Sinise and Kelsey Grammer.
posted by billysumday at 6:38 PM on June 9, 2009

And Ben Stein. And everybody else in that movie with Chris Farley's brother in it.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 6:39 PM on June 9, 2009

And Angie Harmon.

And...hmmm...well, actually, I think that's about it.
posted by billysumday at 6:41 PM on June 9, 2009

Oh, Vincent Gallo.
posted by billysumday at 6:41 PM on June 9, 2009

"I've been on food stamps and welfare, did anybody help me out? No. No."

that's stupid even for them

fuck
posted by Optimus Chyme at 6:43 PM on June 9, 2009

Jon, Jon, you thought Baby Genuises was a good idea. Why the fuck should I listen to ANYTHING you say?
posted by klangklangston at 6:45 PM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]

Did they do this with Carter too

Yeah, roughly 30 years ago about now (give or take a few months) they were pillorying Carter for having whacked a "swamp rabbit" with an oar in a pond near Plains, Georgia.
posted by blucevalo at 6:45 PM on June 9, 2009

They've got that chick from Will and Grace too. Oh, and Edie Falco.
posted by klangklangston at 6:46 PM on June 9, 2009

Two. Two good movies.

Three.

Zoolander.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 6:46 PM on June 9, 2009

Two. Two good movies.
Three, if you count Runaway Train. I think you should.
posted by pointilist at 6:46 PM on June 9, 2009 [4 favorites]

Oh, Dennis Leary, too. I think. Unless I'm confusing all that 9/11 jackoffery and war-mongering for just a really bad comedy persona.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 6:49 PM on June 9, 2009

Oh, Vincent Gallo.

Well, there's also John Malkovich, who was once described by a fellow actor (or director? I forget which) as "so far right-wing you think he's joking. Then you realize he isn't."

Also, I seem to recall John Ratzenberger making some crazy PSA against Teh Forced Homosexual Marriages (or possibly about Obama and the Nefarious Socialist-Muslim Plot?) around the time of the election. Did I hallucinate that? I don't have the heart to look it up.

But for sheer batshit right-wing entertainers, nothing beats Victoria Jackson, who is appearently both mentally challenged and mentally ill.
posted by scody at 6:50 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

Dennis Miller doesn't count?

Naah. Not significant enough to matter.
posted by disclaimer at 6:50 PM on June 9, 2009

Wow, being on SNL seems to really mess you up.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 6:53 PM on June 9, 2009

Now it's down to Jon Voight, Chuck Norris and that guy from Coach.

He was in Poltergeist, too!
posted by mr_roboto at 6:54 PM on June 9, 2009

Interesting about Malkovich. I found this article which states, "Hootkins is one of many suprised to find that [Malkovich], like Sam Shepard, is politically conservative. 'Yeah, he's extremely right-wing. So much so I still sometimes wonder if he's kidding. But one key to his character is this recent immigrant thing in his family. Everything else he's done is stuff his parents can't understand. But his politics - that they can relate to.' Hootkins, who himself speaks six languages and has acted since the age of 17, pauses. 'He's a complicated man. An extremely sweet human being. And, in the literal sense of the word, the most interesting guy I've ever worked with.'"

But that was back in 1990. 19 years is a long time to change political positions, maybe he's had a change of heart.

Also interesting that Sam Shepard is conservative. Waddyaknow.
posted by billysumday at 6:54 PM on June 9, 2009

Denis Leary isn't really rightwing. He's more anti-intellectual, "if it sounds contrarian it's probably true" Regular Joe Populism. With a cigarette.
posted by DU at 6:54 PM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]

Kelsey Grammer? Has he done anything in front of a camera since "Frasier" other than that anti-Michael Moore flop, a couple of Sideshow Bob voiceovers, and that horrible one-season sitcom with Patricia Heaton? I mean, literally, anything? (I mean, other than appear at GOP rubber-chicken dinners.)

Does anybody really pay any attention to Dennis Miller anymore unless he says something calculatedly outrageous on Fox News?

As for Jon Voight, well, they're welcome to have him as a spokesman. More power to 'em.
posted by blucevalo at 6:55 PM on June 9, 2009

Is the 'batshitinsane' tag played out by now? I wouldnt mind it coming out of retirement for this nut job.
posted by ElmerFishpaw at 6:58 PM on June 9, 2009

Zoolander.

Missed that one.

Runaway Train

Ditto.

Gotta catch up on my movies...
posted by flapjax at midnite at 6:59 PM on June 9, 2009

Clint Eastwood, too. The perpetual facepalm that is Gran Torino is just the icing on the cake.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 6:59 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

Ah yeah, and Gopher from Love Boat.

Man, the conservatives have a powerful Hollywood juggernaut of their own.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 7:03 PM on June 9, 2009

So the entire film industry has been an Overton Window bait-and-switch? First they tell us Hollywood is ultralibrul, then they stock it up with rightwing nutjobs to drive the country farther and farther to the right?
posted by DU at 7:03 PM on June 9, 2009

Yes. Bush the elder (then a private citizen) struck an arms and cash deal with Iran to keep the American hostages in Tehran until after the 1980 election. They were magically released the day Reagan was inaugurated. Not too obvious, was it?

You're behind the times in conspiracy theories, 9/11 troof is the big rage these days.

Easy to dismiss, perhaps, but conservatives have a long history of quasi-treasonous actions. What is it about getting lower taxes (pretty much the only right-wing raison d'etre) that forces the conservative politician into putting America last? (Go ahead and google Prescott Bush and the Nazis, Prescott Bush and Smedley Butler . . . .)

From the link: "The most arresting chapter gives us conclusive reason to believe that Nixon and his associates -- especially Attorney General John Mitchell and Vice President Spiro Agnew -- consciously sabotaged the Vietnam peace negotiations in Paris in the fall of 1968 . . . . Using a series of extremist and shady intermediaries, the Nixon campaign covertly assured the South Vietnamese generals that if they boycotted President Lyndon B. Johnson's dearly bought conference (which they ultimately did on the very eve of the election) they would get a more sympathetic administration."

So, if the right-wingers would be willing to stab America in the back in Saigon in 1968, why is it so far-fetched to believe they wouldn't do it eleven years later in Tehran?

(Of course, I'm not even referencing Iran/Contra, 'cause it's so late.)
posted by John of Michigan at 7:05 PM on June 9, 2009 [8 favorites]

Jon Voight was in Heat.
posted by Joe Beese at 7:09 PM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]

Stephen Baldwin, Susan Lucci, Angie Harmon, Kirk Cameron, Dennis Hopper, Robert Duvall, Tom Selleck, James Woods, Bo Derek, Rick Schroder .....
posted by blucevalo at 7:10 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

NOT SUSAN LUCCI!!!!!
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 7:11 PM on June 9, 2009 [6 favorites]

Jon Voight was in Heat.

Now that I did see. A shameless 'let's-get-Pacino-and-DeNiro-together-for-some-big-box-office' throwaway if there ever was one.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 7:15 PM on June 9, 2009 [3 favorites]

Second/third/fourth-ing Runaway Train. Goddamn it, that's a good movie...aside from the extremely dated '80s soundtrack (synths & guitar solos and LOTS OF THEM).
posted by The Card Cheat at 7:19 PM on June 9, 2009

A shameless 'let's-get-Pacino-and-DeNiro-together-for-some-big-box-office' throwaway if there ever was one.

No, it was a brilliant Michael Mann crime film.

I think you're confusing that with this. Which pretty much just sucked.

I'm so glad Runaway Train got mentioned. *shudder* What an amazing movie.
posted by hippybear at 7:19 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

in his rather brilliant memoir/journal "Going Mad In Hollywood", David Sherwin, screenwriter of both IF and O LUCKY MAN (two of the best British films ever) relates the prolonged and ultimately doomed tale of his attempt to write a Robin Hood movie for Jon Voight.

The problem was Mr. Voight was out of his fucking mind. And that was three decades ago.
posted by philip-random at 7:24 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

Well, if Eastwood were a typical conservative they'd be a lot easier to coexist with. He's a huge supporter of protecting public lands (making him neither a lockstep libertarian nor a rapacious "hand everything over to big business" type), Million Dollar Baby has an overt text that's anathema to the religious right, he supports gay marriage, if passively in a "why the hell not" sense rather than in an activist sense. I don't ask that everyone agree with me, just that they have a thought or two in their head and some capacity for human decency.
posted by George_Spiggott at 7:26 PM on June 9, 2009 [15 favorites]

Dennis Hopper voted for Obama. His politics aren't as simple as some of the other Hollywood conservatives.
posted by Astro Zombie at 7:28 PM on June 9, 2009

Also, Voight was in Holes, which was terrific.
posted by Astro Zombie at 7:29 PM on June 9, 2009 [4 favorites]

Man, they're really scraping the bottom of the celebrity barrel.
posted by mynameisluka at 7:35 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

Also, Voight was in Holes, which was terrific.

I'm guessing he's generally as good as the script he's given. I hope nobody thinks he actually wrote that speech himself.
posted by philip-random at 7:39 PM on June 9, 2009

Jon Voight was in Heat.

Just like with cats you'll need a moist q-tip.
posted by damn dirty ape at 7:43 PM on June 9, 2009 [6 favorites]

I call BS on the claim that Edie Falco is a neocon. Unless I misread that and you actually mean that Edie Falco is liberal, in which case...
posted by pxe2000 at 7:44 PM on June 9, 2009

According to Wikipedia (which, whatever), Edie Falco did a bunch of anti-Bush work, and supported Kerry and Clinton in '04 and '08, respectively.

(No, I don't know why I bothered to make this comment either)
posted by chesty_a_arthur at 7:49 PM on June 9, 2009

jinx
posted by chesty_a_arthur at 7:49 PM on June 9, 2009

How could someone who gave this monologue so convincingly be this uncompassionate?
posted by Bobby Bittman at 7:59 PM on June 9, 2009

I agree, many conservative celebrities have shallow, misinformed political viewpoints that they love to talk about!
posted by Riki tiki at 8:09 PM on June 9, 2009 [3 favorites]

I'm not up on my FOX news shows, but the clip of Craig Nelson on the Glenn Beck show (featured on HP) seems to be a very inchoate attempt to decry the socialization of corporate gimme and the continuation of social services such as fire, police, and education.

Yes?
posted by mistersquid at 8:11 PM on June 9, 2009

that should read "gimme and argue for the continuation . . ."
posted by mistersquid at 8:12 PM on June 9, 2009

philip-random, I thought that he hadn't written the speech, based on his mispronunciation of several words.
posted by annsunny at 8:15 PM on June 9, 2009

who spoke with a Georgian drawl and told goofy stories about canoeing and attack rabbits.

He was into Monty Python? Cool.

*checks*

Holy shit, there's an entire wikipedia entry on that incident.

Also, Kelsey Grammer was Beast (aka Hank McCoy) in X-Men 3.

And Craig Nelson was the voice of Mr. Incredible.

I'll shut up now.
posted by A dead Quaker at 8:21 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

I was surprised by the fact that Sarah Michelle Gellar was a republican who campaigned for Bush in 2004. I've also read--and hoped it wasn't true--that Norm Macdonald and Drew Carey were conservative. The list (freeper warning!) I pulled up is mostly a sad amalgamation of has-been and never-were Hollywood Squares rejects; though it did include SMG, NM and DC, it also included Anderson Cooper, so it appears to be bogus like most things in freeperville.
posted by whatgorilla at 8:29 PM on June 9, 2009

LL Cool J is a republican. I remember him at a fundraiser for Bush when Bush was running against Kerry.
posted by FunkyHelix at 8:40 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

Also, Voight was in Holes

Was he? Or was he just taking a wide stance?
posted by middleclasstool at 8:41 PM on June 9, 2009

Also, there is a condition whereby some people achieve great success from humble beginnings, believe that they did it totally on their own, and so expect that everyone else can do the same with no assistance needed. There's a similar thing with addiction -- addicts who get themselves clean and find themselves looking down on the "weak" ones who have more trouble.
posted by middleclasstool at 8:43 PM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]

Before the election,my sister and I saw Jon Voight at Sherman Oaks Fashion Square, dressed in a suit and going from table to table at the food court, sitting down with people, urging them to vote for McCain. It went on for quite a while, and we actually sort of hung around, out of curiosity, waiting for him to come wandering our way. I think we looked too liberal, or female, or young, or something; he was mainly picking older couples to plunk himself down next to.

It's odd how the right claims to HATE HATE HATE Hollywood celebrities, and that one of the ways in which they sought to dismiss Obama was to go around saying that he was a celebrity rather than a politician.... but when they find one that's right-wing, they practically canonize them and invite them to speak at their conventions and fund-raisers and elect them Governor or Senator or, gee, President of the US of A...
posted by OolooKitty at 8:44 PM on June 9, 2009 [3 favorites]

As long as we're listing right-wing actors, let's not forget Pepé Le Pew from the Sopranos.
posted by univac at 8:48 PM on June 9, 2009

"Oh, Dennis Leary, too. I think."

LEARY: I do have to say that that I think that President Obama is the greatest President in the history of all of our Presidents and that he can do no wrong in my book. So how's that for prejudice on the Democratic side? . . . But I do have to say that I enjoy upsetting people -- friends of mine who might be in the Republican world by -- like Lanny Clark, who's on Rescue Me who-

BEHAR: He's a right-winger?

LEARY: Well, he's a, yes. He's a supporter -- he was a supporter of the previous eight years. So I would love to wake up in the morning and go to work on Rescue Me and just go, President Obama is the greatest thing that ever happened, just to-

BEHAR: Just to torture him?

LEARY: Yes.

BEHAR: To torture him?

LEARY: Yes.

BEHAR: But wasn't it fun for the comedians to take on Bush all those years? So it's hard to let go of those jokes.

LEARY: It was manna from heaven.

BEHAR: Manna.

LEARY: It really was.

....

BEHAR: What do you think of Obama's pick of Sotomayor?

LEARY: Fantastic!

BEHAR: You love her?

LEARY: Everything you ask me about President Obama I'm just going to say it's the greatest thing ever. I love the guy!

See that?! Democrats support torture!
posted by markkraft at 9:05 PM on June 9, 2009 [3 favorites]

Actually, Drew Carey considers himself a Libertarian.
posted by liza at 9:08 PM on June 9, 2009

Oh, and I think it's safe to scratch LL Cool J off the list too. Yup.
posted by markkraft at 9:18 PM on June 9, 2009

Dennis Hopper is a Republican too... who also voted for Obama.

But hey, the Republicans still have Victoria Jackson's vote... and we shouldn't let them forget it.
posted by markkraft at 9:25 PM on June 9, 2009

I'm glad to hear Leary say all that, because the last thing I remember of him speaking politically was him going off about how awesome Persian Gulf War 1 was. How it made great TV and gave him an erection. Maybe he was just doing his "look at how un-PC I am" routine or something.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 9:43 PM on June 9, 2009

"the clip of Craig Nelson on the Glenn Beck show (featured on HP) seems to be a very inchoate attempt to decry the socialization of corporate gimme and the continuation of social services such as fire, police, and education. Yes?"

Except, of course, that the State of California -- where Craig Nelson lives -- would pretty much have to close down everything if it weren't for the unprecedented amount of Federal money it got to help with basic services such as fire, police, and education, thanks to the Obama administration... and that the main reason why those services are going to get cut severely anyway is because the Republican governor floated big budgets for several years, wasn't prepared for an economic downturn, and because Republicans in the state senate absolutely refuse to increase taxes in order to make up for the kind of shortfalls that have been frequent since prop 13, when the state permanently set property tax rates at just 1%.

The simple fact is, even in good years, there is a surprisingly small percentage of discretionary money available that a Governor can spend to enact any kind of policy in this state. Practically all the money is already budgeted.
posted by markkraft at 9:50 PM on June 9, 2009

Oh, and as much as I dislike some of the compromises we've seen from the Obama administration, economically, I'm glad he chose to take the political hits for supporting a stimulus plan.

If this is failure, my stock portfolio / retirement savings says thank you, and please keep failing.
posted by markkraft at 10:00 PM on June 9, 2009

When Sean Penn speaks out on politics, the US right say actors are dummies who should shut up. What's Voigt?

(Also, is the look for the GOP a divorcee who alienated his children so thoroughly they don't speak to him?)
posted by rodgerd at 10:02 PM on June 9, 2009

When Sean Penn speaks out on politics, the US right say actors are dummies who should shut up. What's Voigt?

A Good German.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 10:13 PM on June 9, 2009

Also, is the look for the GOP a divorcee who alienated his children so thoroughly they don't speak to him?

Hey, they had no qualms about letting a guy who divorced his first wife while she was bed-ridden and suffering from cancer and then cheated on his second wife with his third be the public face of "the Moral Majority's" Congressional investigation into Bill and Monica.

Why should this be any different?
posted by Amanojaku at 10:42 PM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]

GOP Fundraiser

I didn't watch the clip, but here's what I think it probably looks like.
posted by Ratio at 11:16 PM on June 9, 2009

I could have sworn that Jon Voight was a dentist in New York City who sold his car.
posted by davidmsc at 11:42 PM on June 9, 2009

I'm saddened to see that not one poster responded to what Voight actually said. What is this--Fark.com?

He said his main concern is the U.S. policy on Israel. He thinks that telling Israel it has to compromise and hand over something else to the Palestineans won't work because it never has.

I doubt that 100% of you disagree with those sentiments.
posted by notmtwain at 5:58 AM on June 10, 2009

I'm not a WTF guy, but WTF?
posted by juiceCake at 6:16 AM on June 10, 2009

I think he honestly believes that Obama is the biblical false prophet, in league with the anti-Christ, and that it's therefore ok to call for his assassination. Just like Scott Roeder was convinced to kill Tiller because of the insane rhetoric from groups like Operation Rescue, the most bat shit insane Republicans think the only way out of the wilderness is to whip the base into a frenzy until one of them kills Obama.
posted by stavrogin at 6:30 AM on June 10, 2009

I guess the GOP is worried about losing their lock on the racists and crazies vote.
posted by chunking express at 6:43 AM on June 10, 2009

He was awesome in Midnight Cowboy. I'd like to see that one screened at a GOP fundraiser.

Now if only Bob Balaban could "out" all the closeted Republicans he gave blow jobs to...
posted by jonp72 at 6:48 AM on June 10, 2009

This video should be presented as rebuttal for anything Jon Voight has to say.
posted by picea at 6:52 AM on June 10, 2009 [2 favorites]

"I've been on food stamps and welfare, did anybody help me out? No. No."

....Um...
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 9:40 AM on June 10, 2009

BitterOldPunk: "it'll be down to two old white guys sitting in a camera-filled room, fulminating at one another in a spittle-flecked rage over who's got the biggest boner for Aryan Jesus."

Joe Beese: "Sean Hannity will be one of them."


Ann Coulter will be the other.


Bah, Voight was dead to me when he played one of my childhood heroes, Mr. Phelps, and made him a traitor.
posted by darkstar at 11:44 AM on June 10, 2009 [1 favorite]

Wow? Seriously. Done.
posted by fyrebelley at 1:33 PM on June 10, 2009 [1 favorite]

What gets me is that he implies Obama's election victory was illegal. WTF? That's a stretch even for the best conspiracy theorists. Is he pretending that ACORN somehow managed to strategically manufacture a few million votes in key swing states? Or is he leaning toward the 'Obama is not born in America' canard? I mean...there is no logic to their beliefs.
posted by Rashomon at 2:13 PM on June 10, 2009

seen on a bumper sticker last night: "Where's the birth certificate?"
posted by caddis at 3:09 PM on June 10, 2009

I tried to watch the youtube clip, but it just wasn't happening. Where does the title of this post, "knives in bed, rocks in head," originate? Does he say it in the speech? What is the context?
posted by mumblelard at 5:59 AM on June 11, 2009