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Brazil's new water conservation campaign: Xixi no Banho! (slyt)
posted by Sys Rq (86 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite

 
I thought we weren't supposed to talk abotu this.
posted by molecicco at 7:38 AM on August 6, 2009


Air Jordan urinating while performing the iconic dunk is not what I expected to see today.
posted by Burhanistan at 7:41 AM on August 6, 2009


What's with the rest of the world? Keeping carp in bathtubs, pissing in showers like it ain't no thang? Have you no sense of decency?
posted by geoff. at 7:46 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


NO! NO! We do not pee in the shower.

What are we? Animals?
posted by Ruthless Bunny at 7:46 AM on August 6, 2009


What are we? Animals?
posted by Ruthless Bunny at 10:46 AM on August 6 [+] [!]


Uh-HUH...

I saw this yesterday, and have to admit King Kong peeing off the ESB popped up in a really strange dream I had...
posted by pupdog at 7:48 AM on August 6, 2009


NO! NO! We do not pee in the shower.

Sure you don't.

And girls don't fart.
posted by chillmost at 7:52 AM on August 6, 2009 [4 favorites]


Clinically I don't have a problem with this proposal, but ewww
posted by infinitewindow at 7:53 AM on August 6, 2009


What are we? Animals?
posted by Ruthless Bunny


(emphasis mine) Eponysterical?
posted by kmz at 7:54 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Also, I thought this was one of those things almost everybody does but nobody admits to.
posted by kmz at 7:55 AM on August 6, 2009


I admit to it.
posted by Science! at 7:57 AM on August 6, 2009


I've never understood the objection. Obviously "it's all pipes". But then they counter that you are still peeing on yourself. But my counter-counter-objection is: You are in the shower. If the shower won't clean pee off your skin, then you are doomed to be pee-soaked for all eternity. You will eventually get some on you (accidents, babies, etc). If the shower can't remove that, game over, man.

But the shower can remove that. And it is all pipes. So....pee away.
posted by DU at 8:01 AM on August 6, 2009 [2 favorites]


I pee in the kitchen sink while I'm washing dishes.
posted by ColdChef at 8:05 AM on August 6, 2009 [3 favorites]


I pee in dishes while I'm washing the kitchen sink.
posted by ob at 8:07 AM on August 6, 2009 [3 favorites]


Tall and tan and young and lovely
The girl from Ipanema goes wizzing
And when she pisses, I smile
But she just doesn't pee, she just doesn't pee, no she doesn't pee
posted by total warfare frown at 8:09 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Oh but that said, I don't get how this conserves much water. Using US numbers, a flush is no more than 1.6 gallons. A showerhead is no more than 2.5 gallons/minute. Assuming you spend about 30 seconds peeing (and aren't doing any washing during that time) and factoring in any cleanup/shower-floor-rinsing...it's basically the same number.
posted by DU at 8:12 AM on August 6, 2009


DU, the idea is you pee as you're doing your other shower business. You're already in there using the water, and shouldn't have any need to cleanup or rinse the floor. Pee towards the drain while you wash your hair or whatever, and it goes down the drain. Easy!
posted by pupdog at 8:17 AM on August 6, 2009


Peeing outside doesn't use any water. But I guess first we need to convince the police that it is not a sex crime.
posted by ackptui at 8:18 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Why would anyone not pee in the shower?

I take baths, and I don't pee in the bathwater because soaking in a solution of bathwater and pee doesn't appeal to me. But if I showered, I assume I would pee in the shower occasionally. Why on earth not?
posted by Elsa at 8:19 AM on August 6, 2009


Hi there grossies. Guess where I don't pee? In the shower. In pools. In lakes. In rivers. In the ocean. Guess where I do pee? In a toilet you disgusting motherfuckers! Am I better than all of you? Yes. Don't talk to me.
posted by ND¢ at 8:19 AM on August 6, 2009 [8 favorites]


CAT OWNERS (hippies): If you pee in the shower you will teach your cat that it's ok to pee in the shower. Your cat will then pee in the shower and your friend who slept on the couch will then have to suffer through your stinky, cat-pissy shower and you won't even notice because you are so used to the stench of that filthy animal that you can't even determine when you are steaming yourself in cat-urine.
posted by Baby_Balrog at 8:23 AM on August 6, 2009 [4 favorites]


All this time, I had no idea Brazilian men didn't have penises.
posted by eatyourcellphone at 8:24 AM on August 6, 2009


Guess where I don't pee? In the shower. In pools. In lakes. In rivers. In the ocean.

Guess again.
posted by DU at 8:24 AM on August 6, 2009 [3 favorites]


DU, the idea is you pee as you're doing your other shower business.

I can never do this. I can only seem to pee in the shower if I'm standing perfectly still.

And that's my TMI for the day, everybody on the Internet.
posted by dirigibleman at 8:24 AM on August 6, 2009 [3 favorites]


How about if I pee in the shower when I'm not even taking a shower? Just pull the curtain back and aim for the drain.
posted by uncleozzy at 8:25 AM on August 6, 2009


Who takes their cat in the shower to see them peeing? Talk about evil...
posted by pupdog at 8:26 AM on August 6, 2009 [2 favorites]


ND¢: "Hi there grossies. Guess where I don't pee? In the shower. In pools. In lakes. In rivers. In the ocean. Guess where I do pee? In a toilet you disgusting motherfuckers! Am I better than all of you? Yes. Don't talk to me."

The ocean? It's OK for lobsters to just go blowing their loads all over the ocean, filling it up with nasty lobster sperm, but I can take a whiz in it? Fine. Next time you're in the ocean rest easy that you're covered in lobster sperm, but not my urine. I have peed in a ton of rivers in several states so I can't guarantee that there's so Science! pee on you, but it's a long shot.
posted by Science! at 8:26 AM on August 6, 2009 [4 favorites]


I admit to it. I also admit to not understanding why people think it's weird or gross. It's pee. It's mostly water anyway. You people who think it's weird and gross freak me out. Don't talk to me.
posted by rtha at 8:30 AM on August 6, 2009 [3 favorites]


How is no one talking about how awesome that commercial was? I bet lots of kids suddenly wanted to go take a shower just so they could pee in it.
posted by hermitosis at 8:32 AM on August 6, 2009


Peeing outside doesn't use any water. But I guess first we need to convince the police that it is not a sex crime.

There are MetaFilter members who are actually working on this problem IN REAL LIFE.
posted by ColdChef at 8:32 AM on August 6, 2009


Peeing outside doesn't use any water.

Using zero water to pee is not using enough water, I don't care how much of that antibacterial lotion junk you smear on yourself.
posted by DU at 8:34 AM on August 6, 2009


I admit to it. I also admit to not understanding why people think it's weird or gross. It's pee. It's mostly water anyway. You people who think it's weird and gross freak me out. Don't talk to me.

Here, have this glass of lemonade I made especially for you. When you're done drinking it, I have a surprise for you. No, I don't want to spoil it.
posted by ColdChef at 8:35 AM on August 6, 2009 [2 favorites]


Shower urinaters would have cats. Once you're willing to have a box of feces in your house there is just no line anymore is there? "Hey let's go adopt a bunch of orphans and claim they ran away, but really just sell their organs to the Chinese!" "Sure. I already have a box of feces just sitting in my fucking house out in the open! Why the fuck not?!" We're trying to have a civilization here people and you are all just peeing all over it.
posted by ND¢ at 8:36 AM on August 6, 2009 [6 favorites]


Assuming you spend about 30 seconds peeing

Given an average flow rate of about 21 ml/sec, a more realistic estimate would probably be 15 seconds.
posted by Justinian at 8:38 AM on August 6, 2009


OK, I agree with you about the litter boxes.
posted by Science! at 8:39 AM on August 6, 2009


Who knew DU stands for Dislikes Urine?
posted by Sys Rq at 8:40 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Hey folks, sweat and pee are essentially the same thing. Waste water with minerals, urea, and other metabolized leftovers. Just so you know.

Pee isn't really a problem unless you let it sit, and the urea breaks down into nitrogen which feeds bacteria and other itty bitty critters.
posted by Xoebe at 8:40 AM on August 6, 2009


Given an average flow rate of about 21 ml/sec, a more realistic estimate would probably be 15 seconds.

After just waking up?

You know, a more save-y solution would be to simply not flush. The ol' "if it's yellow, let it mellow" rule. You could even have a special double-flush toilet to avoid freaking out the squares. It would "flush" both from and into a holding tank for liquid-only waste. When the concentration gets high enough, a real flush is performed out to the sewage system.
posted by DU at 8:41 AM on August 6, 2009


I piss in the shower. And when I do, I shout out to my wife in the next room, "I'M PISSING IN THE SHOWER, OK BYE!"

True story.
posted by Jofus at 8:42 AM on August 6, 2009 [5 favorites]


There are MetaFilter members who are actually working on this problem IN REAL LIFE.

Is the logo of this group "Pee Free" and is the theme song the tune to "Born Free" but with modified lyrics and is the banner a strange kind of rainbow from nearly clear to deep orangey-yellow? I'm just curious.
posted by ob at 8:44 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Frankly, given that when I lived in Brazil, I wasn't permitted to flush toilet paper (there were special covered garbage cans for that) and was encouraged not to flush at all after peeing, I'd say, go for it -- pee in the shower! It can't possibly be more gross than the smell of opening up that garbage can.
posted by jacquilynne at 8:45 AM on August 6, 2009


You shower pee-ers probably wear flip-flops to restaurants too.
posted by Justinian at 8:47 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


when I lived in Brazil, I wasn't permitted to flush toilet paper (there were special covered garbage cans for that)

Potential collateral loss of the rainforest is not a deterrent to nuking Brazil from orbit.
posted by DU at 8:49 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


(there were special covered garbage cans for that)

I really hope they weren't recycling bins.
posted by Sys Rq at 8:55 AM on August 6, 2009


DU, the idea is you pee as you're doing your other shower business.

I can never do this.

You have to wait until you're done with that other thing you do in the shower.
posted by The Bellman at 8:57 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


You shower pee-ers probably wear flip-flops to restaurants too.

I've worn flip-flops and pajamas to make a Target run. Does that count? Wait, am I a redneck?
posted by kmz at 8:58 AM on August 6, 2009


you are doomed to be pee-soaked for all eternity

QFT.
posted by yoink at 8:58 AM on August 6, 2009


The definition of a gentleman is one who steps outside the shower to pee.
posted by echo target at 9:04 AM on August 6, 2009


Here, have this glass of lemonade I made especially for you. When you're done drinking it, I have a surprise for you. No, I don't want to spoil it.

I'm blaming my undercaffeination, but I don't get it.
posted by rtha at 9:05 AM on August 6, 2009


You shower pee-ers probably wear flip-flops to restaurants too.

Have we sunk to this level already? I mean, how do you counter that, 'all you toilet-only people and your Edwardian collars, acting so prim and proper...'?
posted by pupdog at 9:05 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


The definition of a gentleman is one who steps outside the shower to pee.
Aren't you just peeing on the bathroom floor then?
posted by eatyourcellphone at 9:06 AM on August 6, 2009 [3 favorites]


Here, have this glass of lemonade I made especially for you. When you're done drinking it, I have a surprise for you. No, I don't want to spoil it.

I'm blaming my undercaffeination, but I don't get it.


Because there's a guy down there drinking the filth, hair and soap scum out of your shower drain and he doesn't want pee in it.
posted by DU at 9:10 AM on August 6, 2009 [4 favorites]


Is this the Destined Thread for a site where we sign our names in yellow on a blue background?
posted by yoink at 9:12 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


You have to wait until you're done with that other thing you do in the shower.

That actually makes it more difficult to pee. Anyway, to anyone who doesn't pee in the shower, thanks for killing the earth, man.
posted by Mister_A at 9:18 AM on August 6, 2009


Ah - thanks, DU! I thought it might be something like that.
posted by rtha at 9:23 AM on August 6, 2009


Thanks, ND¢, for making me appreciate the impermanence of existence once again.
posted by cimbrog at 9:24 AM on August 6, 2009


to anyone who doesn't pee in the shower, thanks for killing the earth, man.

The earth told me she doesn't want to live if living means having a bunch of shower urinaters crawling around on her.
posted by ND¢ at 9:28 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


All this time, I had no idea Brazilian men didn't have penises.

Yeah, but the penis-sportin' ladies balance it all out.
posted by rokusan at 9:31 AM on August 6, 2009 [2 favorites]


Dude. Pee is sterile.
posted by SansPoint at 9:54 AM on August 6, 2009


Well, this just led to a very awkward debate with my fiance about the OK-ness of peeing in our shower. I may have to re-evaluate my relationship.
posted by rebel_rebel at 9:54 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


DTSUA
posted by ND¢ at 9:57 AM on August 6, 2009


All the more reason to use Tilex when cleaning. Lots and lots of Tilex.
posted by Ruthless Bunny at 10:03 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Dude. Pee is sterile.

Not that first blast in the morning, no. Or if you're under-hydrated or sick.

Also, the first and only rule of Pee in the Shower Club is that you don't talk about Pee in the Shower Club.
posted by Burhanistan at 10:05 AM on August 6, 2009 [3 favorites]


Pee is pretty damn close to sterile as it's being processed in the kidneys, once it hits your urinary tract all bets are off. Good thing there's a ton of hot soapy water in the shower to flush it all away quickly.
posted by Science! at 10:11 AM on August 6, 2009


The group believes that by adding a yellow stream to the morning's shower, one toilet flush can be prevented. If one flush is avoided each day in a single household, 4,380 liters (1,157 gallons) of water is saved per year.

Urea is used in skin creams. Peeing in the shower might make the soles of one's feet softer?
posted by nickyskye at 10:12 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Madonna advocates it. So, that's uh, something.
posted by Burhanistan at 10:25 AM on August 6, 2009


Pissing in the shower is about the least we can do to save a little water. Start today.
posted by Liquidwolf at 10:29 AM on August 6, 2009


I did it just this morning, wonderful it was. The shower is the only place I get to squat when I pee, and there is some satisfaction in that, I tell thee. Can we talk about squatting as well while we're here?
posted by Sova at 10:39 AM on August 6, 2009


I pooped in the shower when I was 2 or 3. I wonder how much water I saved.
posted by Darth Fedor at 10:44 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


The group believes that by adding a yellow stream to the morning's shower, one toilet flush can be prevented.

What's Brazilian-Portuguese for "If it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down" or "In Brazil under the sun we don't flush for number one"?
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:50 AM on August 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Pipes are like tubes, right? When possible, I like to pee in a truck.
posted by Mister_A at 10:58 AM on August 6, 2009


One thing to note about peeing in the shower is that it foils systems that have separate treatment systems for grey and brown water. Not that I'm generally against the practice of peeing in the shower, but it's worth considering.
posted by Fraxas at 11:50 AM on August 6, 2009




Oh the places I've pissed.
posted by Divine_Wino at 12:42 PM on August 6, 2009


jacquilynne, in China they don't usually even have covers on those trash cans. But then again, in China the trash can is often the least offensive thing in the bathroom.
posted by deadbilly at 12:43 PM on August 6, 2009


I cannot stand the "If it's yellow, let it mellow" push, especially after watching something on TV (Dateline maybe? it's been at least a decade) in which they demonstrated the fine mist that sprays up from the toilet, into the air and on nearby surfaces with each flush. Pee in the shower all you want, as long as you do it while the water's running, you're alone or have consent of your companion(s), and you clean the darn thing appropriately, but if you're not going to flush the toilet, pee in the yard.
posted by notashroom at 2:02 PM on August 6, 2009


as long as you do it while the water's running

That will make it vaporize even more. Unless it's ice cold water. But even then.

Most people shower in the morning when human urine is decidedly not very sterile.

And you know those of you that piss in the shower, you know, we know. The second we go into your apartments or houses. We know. Your houses stink like piss. You're just used to it. You're not fooling anybody.

See, generally the type of people who piss in the shower don't do it to save the planet. They do it becuase they are lazy asses and don't want to get out to use a toilet. So thus being inclined to being lazy asses they don't clean the bathroom all that well either. So their showers smell like piss.

Just say'n.
posted by tkchrist at 2:17 PM on August 6, 2009


That's asinine.
posted by Burhanistan at 2:21 PM on August 6, 2009


Wrong hole.
posted by tkchrist at 2:30 PM on August 6, 2009


we pee in the shower and announce it all the time, whether the other person is in the bathroom with us or not.
posted by radiosilents at 3:16 PM on August 6, 2009


radioslient for some reason I picture Queen Victoria when you use the royal "we". And that would be very humorous indeed.
posted by tkchrist at 3:44 PM on August 6, 2009


And you know those of you that piss in the shower, you know, we know. The second we go into your apartments or houses. We know. Your houses stink like piss.

Okay, for the first time ever on MetaFilter, I'm going to have to encourage you to seek a professional therapist.
posted by rokusan at 1:12 AM on August 7, 2009


Oh people need to see a therapist for telling the truth now peesmellhouse?
posted by ND¢ at 7:54 AM on August 7, 2009


"I cannot stand the 'If it's yellow, let it mellow' push, especially after watching something on TV (Dateline maybe? it's been at least a decade) in which they demonstrated the fine mist that sprays up from the toilet, into the air and on nearby surfaces with each flush. Pee in the shower all you want, as long as you do it while the water's running, you're alone or have consent of your companion(s), and you clean the darn thing appropriately, but if you're not going to flush the toilet, pee in the yard."

I'm trying to parse this and failing. What difference does it make to the "fine mist that sprays up from the toilet" whether the urine is freshly dispensed or has been partying with the toilet water for a while? In fact it would seem that if one lets things mellow after several dispenses until a flush down is needed the total amount of fine mist distributed would be less. IE: reduce the number of flushes and reduce the misting.

Considering most municipal water is chlorinated it might even reduce the potential bacteria count.
posted by Mitheral at 7:57 AM on August 7, 2009


I'm trying to parse this and failing. What difference does it make to the "fine mist that sprays up from the toilet" whether the urine is freshly dispensed or has been partying with the toilet water for a while?

I would guess he means that he doesn't want to get sprayed with another person's urine mist.
posted by Burhanistan at 8:15 AM on August 7, 2009


I would guess he means that he doesn't want to get sprayed with another person's urine mist.

Seems reasonable. Also, when I am sitting down on a toilet where the previous user has followed the 'let it mellow' mantra, I flush before sitting. Because really, splashback is inevitable. It is a sorry fact of life with the vast majority of toilets.
posted by molecicco at 8:25 AM on August 7, 2009


I would guess he means that he doesn't want to get sprayed with another person's urine mist.
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Seems reasonable. Also, when I am sitting down on a toilet where the previous user has followed the 'let it mellow' mantra, I flush before sitting. Because really, splashback is inevitable. It is a sorry fact of life with the vast majority of toilets.

Exactly, except that I'm a she. Sorry I didn't make that clear. My point is that I am not a fan of other people's urine having contact with my body and I do not want their splashback or urine mist. I don't want my own, either, but if I have to deal with someone's, I will choose my own every time.
posted by notashroom at 8:52 AM on August 7, 2009


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