SubscribeThis new legislation is going to be put on our collective credit cardThe Congressional Budget Office has said that the bill as proposed by the Senate Finance Committee will reduce the budget deficit by $81 billion over a decade, and that the bill as proposed by the House of Representatives will reduce the budget deficit by $104 billion over a decade.
Deaths associated with lack of health insurance now exceed those caused by many common killers such as kidney disease. An increase in the number of uninsured and an eroding medical safety net for the disadvantaged likely explain the substantial increase in the number of deaths, as the uninsured are more likely to go without needed care. Another factor contributing to the widening gap in the risk of death between those who have insurance and those who do not is the improved quality of care for those who can get it.THIS is the sickening thing, folks. Focus, please.
I don’t do that. And my kids have found it’s pointless to dissemble, unless they have some tangible realistic contrasting issue (have to go potty, etc.) which I do give validation to. Can’t go to the doctor right now if you have to pee, sure. So let’s go pee. But we ARE going.You can't go to the doctor if you need to pee? I honestly have no idea what you're trying to communicate here.
I find this situation somewhat analogous. There can be a fine line between clarifying in order to achieve a goal and arguing with petulant children.
But I really do think there's an unfortunate tendency in some areas on the right to embrace a rhetorical style that does more to appeal to emotion and indignation than to rational argument, and I think it's a bad trend.Right, we should be talking about cost curves and reimbursement rates because most people are really able to follow all these technical arguments. Tell me, what's your take on a public option with a Medicare + 5% reimbursement rate vs. negotiated prices? Should medical loss ratios be regulated? How about state by state opt-outs vs. triggers?
Yeah. She would be a John. The congresspeople who take her filthy money would be the whores.Actually the pimp.
This new legislation is going to be put on our collective credit card, and it's looking like we're close to hitting its limit.That's a lie, of course. The proposed legislation will profit the government about $100 billion dollars over the next ten years.
"But, as with a similar rally by Democrats a week before, unpredictable things tend to happen in the wide-open spaces of the Capitol's West Front. Minutes into the rally, a breeze toppled the American flag from the stage.
More ominously, a man standing just beyond the TV cameras apparently suffered a heart attack 20 minutes after event began. Medical personnel from the Capitol physician's office -- an entity that could, quite accurately, be labeled government-run health care -- rushed over, attaching electrodes to his chest and giving him oxygen and an IV drip.
This turned into an unwanted visual for the speakers, as a D.C. ambulance and firetruck, lights flashing, pulled in just behind the lawmakers. A path was made through the media section, and the patient, attended to by about 10 government medical personnel, was being wheeled away on a stretcher just as House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) stepped to the microphone. 'Join us in defeating Pelosi care!' he exhorted. A few members stole a glance at the stretcher. Boehner may have been distracted as well. He told the crowd he would read from the Constitution, then read the 'we hold these truths' bit from the Declaration of Independence.
As you'd expect at a political protest, the messages on signs and buttons were provocative: 'Waterboard Congress,' 'A Commie Is in the House.'
But this protest was unusual because it was an official House GOP event, and because some of the remarks on the stage were as outrageous as those in the crowd. The actor Jon Voight, standing with the lawmakers, said of Obama: 'Could it be he has had 20 years of subconscious programming by Reverend Wright to damn America?'
Even the Rev. Stephen Broden, at the microphone to deliver the closing prayer, fumed about 'death panels inside this death care,' adding: 'It is tyranny! It is socialism!'"
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This does nothing to further any reasonable debate. He's doing it so he can raise funds from outside his conservative-leaning district and have a fighting chance at re-election.
Might as well be screaming "you lie" at a joint session of congress..
posted by rulethirty at 3:31 PM on November 5 [5 favorites]