Isaac Eiland-Hall wins WIPO case, hands domain name over to ... Glenn Beck?
November 6, 2009 2:43 PM Subscribe
Nice.
posted by brundlefly at 2:51 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by brundlefly at 2:51 PM on November 6, 2009
*heh* nice job. Pointing out that Beck himself blew up the meme larger than it had been before, and then after proving his case in court, just holding out his hand and saying "here, take it". It proves he's the bigger person all around, and forces Beck's hand about taking ownership of a domain name which posits dark and secret happenings in his past.
Between this and Stewart's spot-on lampooning of Beck on TDS last night, I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy, like an anti-Beck snuggie has just been wrapped around me, leaving my arms still free to type this comment.
posted by hippybear at 2:53 PM on November 6, 2009 [12 favorites]
Between this and Stewart's spot-on lampooning of Beck on TDS last night, I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy, like an anti-Beck snuggie has just been wrapped around me, leaving my arms still free to type this comment.
posted by hippybear at 2:53 PM on November 6, 2009 [12 favorites]
Touché! Glenn Beck is a douche!
posted by battleshipkropotkin at 2:53 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by battleshipkropotkin at 2:53 PM on November 6, 2009
still dead.
posted by empath at 2:55 PM on November 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
posted by empath at 2:55 PM on November 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
Touché! Glenn Beck is a douche!
So . . . Douché? Is that what you say when you out-douche someone?
posted by The Bellman at 2:57 PM on November 6, 2009 [18 favorites]
So . . . Douché? Is that what you say when you out-douche someone?
posted by The Bellman at 2:57 PM on November 6, 2009 [18 favorites]
Ha, I just watched last night's Daily Show so I too am wrapped in a nice warm anti-Beck snuggie, or slanket, if you prefer. If this keeps up I may be able to permanently forget that people actually take the guy seriously.
posted by palidor at 2:59 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by palidor at 2:59 PM on November 6, 2009
Kudos, Isaac, kudos.
posted by Mental Wimp at 2:59 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by Mental Wimp at 2:59 PM on November 6, 2009
So . . . Douché? Is that what you say when you out-douche someone?
I think that's what they say when you out-douche them.
"I crapped in your sneakers!"
"Oh yeah? Well, I crapped in your sleeping bag!"
"Douché!"
posted by Joey Michaels at 3:01 PM on November 6, 2009 [31 favorites]
I think that's what they say when you out-douche them.
"I crapped in your sneakers!"
"Oh yeah? Well, I crapped in your sleeping bag!"
"Douché!"
posted by Joey Michaels at 3:01 PM on November 6, 2009 [31 favorites]
I appreciate the guy's move, but the 1st Amendment thing is... odd. This isn't a 1st Amendment case - we're talking about civil actions between two private parties. When people start screaming "FIRST AMENDMENT" when it doesn't apply really irritates the hell out of me.
posted by TheNewWazoo at 3:01 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by TheNewWazoo at 3:01 PM on November 6, 2009
Glenn Beck you say? This is a Daily Show video related to Glenn Beck! It is very good and you should click it.
This Onion video is also good!
And that is the end of the humorous Glenn Beck videos.
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 3:06 PM on November 6, 2009 [6 favorites]
This Onion video is also good!
And that is the end of the humorous Glenn Beck videos.
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 3:06 PM on November 6, 2009 [6 favorites]
Now there's nothing to keep me from registering glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1991aswell.com
posted by Pater Aletheias at 3:07 PM on November 6, 2009 [17 favorites]
posted by Pater Aletheias at 3:07 PM on November 6, 2009 [17 favorites]
This isn't a 1st Amendment case - we're talking about civil actions between two private parties. When people start screaming "FIRST AMENDMENT" when it doesn't apply really irritates the hell out of me.
You are 100% wrong. It applied in this case to the extent Beck was asserting a defamation-like claim. Read the brief linked in the prior post.
posted by brain_drain at 3:10 PM on November 6, 2009 [8 favorites]
You are 100% wrong. It applied in this case to the extent Beck was asserting a defamation-like claim. Read the brief linked in the prior post.
posted by brain_drain at 3:10 PM on November 6, 2009 [8 favorites]
I would have a fleeting moment of a tiny amount of respect for Beck if he accepted and put up a single page: Did not!
posted by Zed at 3:18 PM on November 6, 2009 [5 favorites]
posted by Zed at 3:18 PM on November 6, 2009 [5 favorites]
I wonder if Glenn Beck will actually start paying hosting fees for this domain or if he'll let it slide into the hands of some domain squatter who puts nasty porno ads on it. Either way, Beck loses. He's either gonna have to pay money for nothing or have his name associated with something else he doesn't like.
posted by twoleftfeet at 3:23 PM on November 6, 2009 [4 favorites]
posted by twoleftfeet at 3:23 PM on November 6, 2009 [4 favorites]
The Bellman: So . . . Douché? Is that what you say when you out-douche someone?
This was more a case of Isaac Eiland-Hall turning Beck's douchiness against him, so the correct word is douchitsu.
posted by Kattullus at 3:24 PM on November 6, 2009 [24 favorites]
This was more a case of Isaac Eiland-Hall turning Beck's douchiness against him, so the correct word is douchitsu.
posted by Kattullus at 3:24 PM on November 6, 2009 [24 favorites]
At first I thought, "Ha! He made Glenn Beck look like an idiot and an asshole!"
Then I thought...
posted by Doublewhiskeycokenoice at 3:26 PM on November 6, 2009 [8 favorites]
Then I thought...
posted by Doublewhiskeycokenoice at 3:26 PM on November 6, 2009 [8 favorites]
THIS WAS NOT ABOUT GLENN BECK! JESUS!
What? It was about Glenn Beck?
posted by Astro Zombie at 3:29 PM on November 6, 2009
What? It was about Glenn Beck?
posted by Astro Zombie at 3:29 PM on November 6, 2009
Too bad he didn't originally register the domain in the form of a question, because it'd be a silly little SSS to slap up there to cap off this whole episode.
posted by Liver at 3:30 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by Liver at 3:30 PM on November 6, 2009
Beck will probably buy ACORNrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com and redirect all his accusers there.
posted by twoleftfeet at 3:30 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by twoleftfeet at 3:30 PM on November 6, 2009
Beck will probably buy ACORNrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com and redirect all his accusers there.
He probably will do exactly that. Which should tell you pretty much everything you need to know about how clever Glenn Beck is.
posted by Doublewhiskeycokenoice at 3:32 PM on November 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
He probably will do exactly that. Which should tell you pretty much everything you need to know about how clever Glenn Beck is.
posted by Doublewhiskeycokenoice at 3:32 PM on November 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
Ha! This dumb little meme turned into a lesson on cultural jujitsu. If exposing myself to Glenn Beck's broadcasts didn't give me tumors and high blood pressure, I'd be curious to hear his response.
posted by EatTheWeek at 3:34 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by EatTheWeek at 3:34 PM on November 6, 2009
that was a classy move.
Just about anything Isaac Elland-Hall could do at this point is automatically classy, since Glenn Beck has managed to define almost everything that is crass, stupid and ugly about the human species.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 3:44 PM on November 6, 2009
Just about anything Isaac Elland-Hall could do at this point is automatically classy, since Glenn Beck has managed to define almost everything that is crass, stupid and ugly about the human species.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 3:44 PM on November 6, 2009
Well, we still have hasglennbeckdeniedrapingandmurderingayounggirlin1990.com
posted by ZenMasterThis at 3:44 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by ZenMasterThis at 3:44 PM on November 6, 2009
If exposing myself to Glenn Beck's broadcasts didn't give me tumors and high blood pressure, I'd be curious to hear his response.
I sort of doubt he'll have one.
posted by brundlefly at 4:01 PM on November 6, 2009
I sort of doubt he'll have one.
posted by brundlefly at 4:01 PM on November 6, 2009
...so this will be the last post at MetaFilter about Glenn Beck... ever?
(if I seriously wanted to make a quick buck, I'd rush to publication a book titled "How to Argue With Idiots Like Glenn Beck" and give it a cover close enough to Beck's book to confuse some of his idiot followers)
posted by oneswellfoop at 4:04 PM on November 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
(if I seriously wanted to make a quick buck, I'd rush to publication a book titled "How to Argue With Idiots Like Glenn Beck" and give it a cover close enough to Beck's book to confuse some of his idiot followers)
posted by oneswellfoop at 4:04 PM on November 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
Gonna pass out. Gonna pass out. Gonna pass out.
Gone.
posted by ORthey at 4:11 PM on November 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
Gone.
posted by ORthey at 4:11 PM on November 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
Eiland-Hall still runs the same site at gb1990.com.
posted by Rhomboid at 4:18 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by Rhomboid at 4:18 PM on November 6, 2009
Glenn Beck's appendix must have flipped the fuck out after hearing the news.
posted by shmegegge at 4:20 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by shmegegge at 4:20 PM on November 6, 2009
I will voluntarily transfer the domain name to you now. The username is [tearfuldoofus] and the password is [oreillyteabaggedme].
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 4:23 PM on November 6, 2009 [6 favorites]
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 4:23 PM on November 6, 2009 [6 favorites]
The really nice thing about this gesture is that it made the front page of Metafilter, thus guaranteeing that the meme would spread even more. I don't no about the rest of you, but I personally hadn't heard of it at all until now.
posted by baf at 4:23 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by baf at 4:23 PM on November 6, 2009
I don't no about the rest of you, but I personally hadn't heard of it at all until now.
If that is the case, you weren't paying attention.
posted by hippybear at 4:31 PM on November 6, 2009
If that is the case, you weren't paying attention.
posted by hippybear at 4:31 PM on November 6, 2009
The text of the decision is available here: "Glenn Beck v. Isaac Eiland Hall, WIPO Case No. D2009-1182". More legalese from Elland-Hall's lawyer Marc Randazza over here.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 4:36 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 4:36 PM on November 6, 2009
So he won the suit...does this mean Glenn Beck will be picking up his legal fees?
posted by mullingitover at 4:55 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by mullingitover at 4:55 PM on November 6, 2009
He really should have renewed it for 10 years before handing it over.
posted by rokusan at 5:02 PM on November 6, 2009 [3 favorites]
posted by rokusan at 5:02 PM on November 6, 2009 [3 favorites]
I'm sorry, if there's nothing to these allegations, why does Glenn Beck himself own a website that says he raped and murdered a young girl in 1990?
posted by klangklangston at 5:13 PM on November 6, 2009 [43 favorites]
posted by klangklangston at 5:13 PM on November 6, 2009 [43 favorites]
OMGZOMG CONSPIRACY ALERT
The sole panelist who made the decision, Frederick M. Abbott, is a professor in Florida, THE SAME STATE THAT ISAAC EILAND-HALL LIVES IN, and he's a lawyer, JUST LIKE ISAAC EILAND-HALL'S LAWYER!!!!!!!
WAKE UP SHATTLE!
Shattle are like sheeple, except more cattle like and shat upon.
posted by Kattullus at 5:16 PM on November 6, 2009 [4 favorites]
The sole panelist who made the decision, Frederick M. Abbott, is a professor in Florida, THE SAME STATE THAT ISAAC EILAND-HALL LIVES IN, and he's a lawyer, JUST LIKE ISAAC EILAND-HALL'S LAWYER!!!!!!!
WAKE UP SHATTLE!
Shattle are like sheeple, except more cattle like and shat upon.
posted by Kattullus at 5:16 PM on November 6, 2009 [4 favorites]
From the decision:
posted by dersins at 5:17 PM on November 6, 2009 [8 favorites]
Complainant argues that the disputed domain name,Heh.
glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com, is confusingly similar to the GLENN BECK trademark and service mark. Respondent argues that only a “moron in a hurry” would find the disputed domain name and the mark confusingly similar.
In the Panel’s view.... [e]ven a “moron in a hurry” would not likely conclude that Complainant sponsored, endorsed or was affiliated with the website addressed by the disputed domain name....
posted by dersins at 5:17 PM on November 6, 2009 [8 favorites]
To be fair, that is arguably semi-legalese, or at least it's been used before, as has been noted in the previous thread..
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 5:25 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 5:25 PM on November 6, 2009
still dead.
posted by empath at 3:55 PM on November 6 [+] [!]
She'd still be alive if she weren't dressed like a cheap slut. Not Glenn's fault.
posted by swell at 5:39 PM on November 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by empath at 3:55 PM on November 6 [+] [!]
She'd still be alive if she weren't dressed like a cheap slut. Not Glenn's fault.
posted by swell at 5:39 PM on November 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
Oh, bother.
posted by Minus215Cee at 6:15 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by Minus215Cee at 6:15 PM on November 6, 2009
...said Pooh, as he hid Piglet's mangled corpse.
posted by weston at 6:40 PM on November 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
posted by weston at 6:40 PM on November 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
I almost wish Glenn had won if only because people would have instantly registered the same domain with a different year in all feasible iterations. By the time Glenn had finally won his case against in1492glennbeckrapedagirlandsodidyou.com, the terrorists would have truly won.
posted by haveanicesummer at 7:16 PM on November 6, 2009 [3 favorites]
posted by haveanicesummer at 7:16 PM on November 6, 2009 [3 favorites]
Glenn Beck's appendix must have flipped the fuck out after hearing the news.
Jon Stewart's impression of Glenn Beck last night was absolutely hilarious if you've ever seen Beck.
posted by twoleftfeet at 7:29 PM on November 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
Jon Stewart's impression of Glenn Beck last night was absolutely hilarious if you've ever seen Beck.
posted by twoleftfeet at 7:29 PM on November 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
My letter to and from Marc J. Randazza. (self-link)
I knew nothing about any of these people before I started writing that original post, and most of the links were suggested in the metatalk thread. My original was in no way a self-link and I am not affiliated with any of those sites.
posted by cjorgensen at 7:30 PM on November 6, 2009 [13 favorites]
I knew nothing about any of these people before I started writing that original post, and most of the links were suggested in the metatalk thread. My original was in no way a self-link and I am not affiliated with any of those sites.
posted by cjorgensen at 7:30 PM on November 6, 2009 [13 favorites]
My letter to and from Marc J. Randazza. (self-link)
Oh em eff gee.
Marc J. Randazza really is my new hero. His response to your letter (including and especially the enclosure) is pure fucking win. Are we sure this guy's actually an attorney? Because I know some attorneys and, um, they're not like that.
At all.
posted by dersins at 7:48 PM on November 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
Oh em eff gee.
Marc J. Randazza really is my new hero. His response to your letter (including and especially the enclosure) is pure fucking win. Are we sure this guy's actually an attorney? Because I know some attorneys and, um, they're not like that.
At all.
posted by dersins at 7:48 PM on November 6, 2009 [2 favorites]
What is Isaac Eiland Hall going to do to be semi-famous now?
posted by Slap Factory at 7:56 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by Slap Factory at 7:56 PM on November 6, 2009
He's either gonna have to pay money for nothing or ...
Get his chicks for free (which, or so I hear, he's been doing).
posted by octobersurprise at 8:13 PM on November 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
Get his chicks for free (which, or so I hear, he's been doing).
posted by octobersurprise at 8:13 PM on November 6, 2009 [1 favorite]
Mr. Beck? Nelson Muntz on line 1.
posted by vibrotronica at 8:30 PM on November 6, 2009 [8 favorites]
posted by vibrotronica at 8:30 PM on November 6, 2009 [8 favorites]
OK, the signed photo is made of pure awesome (on cjorgensen's linked page). Now I just need to be sued so I can hire Randazza.
posted by maxwelton at 9:03 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by maxwelton at 9:03 PM on November 6, 2009
So, how much cash do you suppose Beck threw away in legal spending while trying to shut this guy down?
posted by EatTheWeek at 9:33 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by EatTheWeek at 9:33 PM on November 6, 2009
So, how much cash do you suppose Beck threw away in legal spending while trying to shut this guy down?
That's not fiscally conservative!
posted by dirigibleman at 9:46 PM on November 6, 2009
That's not fiscally conservative!
posted by dirigibleman at 9:46 PM on November 6, 2009
My letter to and from Marc J. Randazza. (self-link)
Sign me up for the Randazza Society. This whole episode warmed my shriveled, godless liberal heart.
posted by Monsters at 9:54 PM on November 6, 2009
Sign me up for the Randazza Society. This whole episode warmed my shriveled, godless liberal heart.
posted by Monsters at 9:54 PM on November 6, 2009
I too wish to join the Randazza Society. Let's make buttons!
posted by Doublewhiskeycokenoice at 10:05 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by Doublewhiskeycokenoice at 10:05 PM on November 6, 2009
OMG, a lawyer that I like. Count me in as a club member, too. Heck, I want him to be a MeFi member now!
posted by five fresh fish at 11:35 PM on November 6, 2009
posted by five fresh fish at 11:35 PM on November 6, 2009
Who the fuck is this Glenn Beck person anyway? Is he related to Jeff Beck? Jeff Beck is OK, let's do more Jeff Beck, Glenn Beck sounds boring.
posted by Dr Dracator at 4:07 AM on November 7, 2009
posted by Dr Dracator at 4:07 AM on November 7, 2009
Marc J. Randazza's blog.
(Warning: contents include pedobear)
posted by ryanrs at 5:41 AM on November 7, 2009 [2 favorites]
(Warning: contents include pedobear)
posted by ryanrs at 5:41 AM on November 7, 2009 [2 favorites]
His response to your letter (including and especially the enclosure) is pure fucking win.
I can't stop laughing about the signed photo. Brilliant!
posted by ericb at 7:57 AM on November 7, 2009
I can't stop laughing about the signed photo. Brilliant!
posted by ericb at 7:57 AM on November 7, 2009
Marc's TOS rules as well.
It takes a while to get going, but it gave me an hours of googling fun to find out as many of the references to people as I could.
I think metafilter should steal his TOS.
posted by cjorgensen at 8:56 AM on November 7, 2009
It takes a while to get going, but it gave me an hours of googling fun to find out as many of the references to people as I could.
I think metafilter should steal his TOS.
posted by cjorgensen at 8:56 AM on November 7, 2009
I'm not particularly sure how to take the site Domain Name Wire as my only resource on this story - granted the owners seem to be up front about posting that they own stock (tho don't say where) Are there any other places I can follow this story? (Still looking through links in the other thread - and I'm not really looking to read either side's blogs.) Some of the legal newsish sites I would have expected to see posts about this are either slow to publish something or I've missed it. Maybe it's a weekend thing? Or still filed as "internet craziness" in other "serious" media?
posted by batgrlHG at 3:12 PM on November 7, 2009
posted by batgrlHG at 3:12 PM on November 7, 2009
(I had already read this Ars Tech piece:
Memes Strike Back (Sept 30, 2009)
- just didn't see any followup on the Ars site - anyone have a link?)
posted by batgrlHG at 3:19 PM on November 7, 2009
Memes Strike Back (Sept 30, 2009)
- just didn't see any followup on the Ars site - anyone have a link?)
posted by batgrlHG at 3:19 PM on November 7, 2009
I find Beck immensely entertaining. I'm a fan. The usual thuggish right-wing TV and Internet personalities are deeply unimaginative -- Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter, Malkin are just grim, obnoxious, predictable bullies. They bore me. I once listened to quite a bit of Limbaugh back in the early Clinton years, back when he was relevant, and he was, again, just a cheap bully, on autopilot, I just could predict what he was going to say on any given topic, more or less (I admit I was later surprised that he had the balls to actually mock poor Michael J. Fox for his Parkinsons, I didn't think Limbaugh was _that_ depraved).
Beck, on the other hand, is the Jack Kerouac of right wing punditry, he's the Beat poet of American Fascism -- I'm fascinated by his riffs, bewitched by his insanity. I'm a big, big fan. And I really couldn't be farther away from his politics and worldview.
posted by matteo at 5:06 PM on November 7, 2009 [2 favorites]
Beck, on the other hand, is the Jack Kerouac of right wing punditry, he's the Beat poet of American Fascism -- I'm fascinated by his riffs, bewitched by his insanity. I'm a big, big fan. And I really couldn't be farther away from his politics and worldview.
posted by matteo at 5:06 PM on November 7, 2009 [2 favorites]
batgrlHG you can always read the original rulings on the WIPO site. I can understand being blog adverse if you doubted the facts, but they seem pretty laid out here. You get the initial complaints, the responses, and the ruling.
PC Magazine.
TechDirt.
posted by cjorgensen at 6:10 PM on November 7, 2009
PC Magazine.
TechDirt.
posted by cjorgensen at 6:10 PM on November 7, 2009
matteo, that sentiment isn't totally foreign to me: I actually find Fred Phelps fascinating as a performer when I listen to some of his sermons.
But I haven't heard the right notes from Beck yet. Maybe I just don't have the taste. Or haven't been able to make myself watch long enough. Can you point out anything in particular that's struck you?
posted by weston at 7:26 PM on November 7, 2009
But I haven't heard the right notes from Beck yet. Maybe I just don't have the taste. Or haven't been able to make myself watch long enough. Can you point out anything in particular that's struck you?
posted by weston at 7:26 PM on November 7, 2009
"I can understand being blog adverse if you doubted the facts,"
Nah, not so much that - when I go read what I think of as a news story on something blogish, then I feel I have to look for the opposing side's blog (especially in a legal case) - as opposed to just reading multiple news site sources to try to get a handle on coverage and how a story's being reported. I'm more thrown that this isn't popping into the, you know "real" news sites, but I guess everyone's thinking of it as "those goofy kids and their internets jokes." Or maybe now there's a popular habit of not taking Glen Beck seriously? I mean, there are some legit legal issues pertaining to satire here. Seeing how popular such satire as Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are, I'd sort of thought this would get more notice in other types of media.
posted by batgrlHG at 6:17 PM on November 13, 2009
Nah, not so much that - when I go read what I think of as a news story on something blogish, then I feel I have to look for the opposing side's blog (especially in a legal case) - as opposed to just reading multiple news site sources to try to get a handle on coverage and how a story's being reported. I'm more thrown that this isn't popping into the, you know "real" news sites, but I guess everyone's thinking of it as "those goofy kids and their internets jokes." Or maybe now there's a popular habit of not taking Glen Beck seriously? I mean, there are some legit legal issues pertaining to satire here. Seeing how popular such satire as Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are, I'd sort of thought this would get more notice in other types of media.
posted by batgrlHG at 6:17 PM on November 13, 2009
Who's watching Glenn Beck?
Rage Grows in America: Anti‑Government Conspiracies
posted by homunculus at 12:03 PM on November 26, 2009
Rage Grows in America: Anti‑Government Conspiracies
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