You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can't say “nigger” — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”posted by boo_radley at 12:32 PM on November 15, 2009 [30 favorites]
Andrew Sullivan had a post the other day where he basically said the modern U.S. "Conservative" movement was actually not conservative in any way. They are basically reactionaries now. There isn't really anything they want to preserve; rather, they seek the make the U.S. into something new. The truth is, it's Liberals and Progressives who want preserve the status quo of women having the right choose, civil rights, and other achievements of the 1960s and the "liberal era". They just want to add Universal Healthcare, which fits into that framework well.As if to prove Breitbart's point, Giles asked everyone in the room to copy down the words of Saul Alinsky, who is considered the father of community organizing — and is a great hero of the left. "All life is warfare," she quoted him as saying, "and it's the constant fight against the status quo that revitalizes society."I'm detecting somewhat of a disconnect here.
Umm, I thought the bill they passed to excluded ACORN from federal funding would've excluded Halburton, etc. Isn't this positive?I think the law was changed when people realized what it would do.
Hannah Giles was in the middle of her guerrilla warfare lecture this weekend at the young conservatives leadership conference when a man in the audience interrupted her. "Please suck my cock!" he cried out. The crowd erupted in applause and whistles.What the hell?
The specifics of the instant legislation appears to differ substantially from the regulatory goals of the existing legal regime regarding federal contracting and federal grants. Unlike the existing regime, this legislation focuses on relatively minor legal violations such as campaign financing, election laws, or disclosure requirements. Further, while current regulations may limit organizations to relatively short debarments, generally no more than three years, the instant proposal has no mechanism for these organizations to be relieved of their disability. In addition, this permanent exclusion would be imposed jointly and severally on ACORN and its affiliates, essentially establishing a per se rule that all affiliates and ACORN would be held responsible for the behavior of any other affiliates or ACORN, or an employee thereof.posted by XQUZYPHYR at 3:37 PM on November 15, 2009 [2 favorites]
In general, absent an agency proceeding to determine that ACORN and everyone of its affiliates have engaged in unlawful behavior, the permanent exclusion of all of these organizations would be difficult to justify as regulatory in nature. While the Supreme Court has noted that courts will generally defer to Congress as to the regulatory purpose of a statute absent clear proof of punitive intent, there appear to be several potential problems raised by attempts to find a rational nonpunitive regulatory purpose for this legislation. Thus, it appears that a court may have a sufficient basis to overcome the presumption of constitutionality, and find that the proposed Defund ACORN Act violates the prohibition against bills of attainder.
Talez's argument doesn't rest upon authority; that people who actually know things about the topic because it is their profession and life's work to know them is ancillary to the larger argument, which is in fact argumentation and deserving of refutation rather than dismissal.Pope Guilty: I have no idea what you are trying to say. Localroger was the one accused of making an argument by authority, by Talez.
These are soldiers for their Christ and their America. Sometimes a soldier must adopt the guise of their adversary in order to infiltrate their camp and defeat them.Don't forget the walls of Jericho, where everyone spoke with one vice, god destroyed the walls, and then they rushed in and killed ever man, woman, and child except for a prostitute, who had been their spy. See, the bible says being an under cover prostitute is OK, Just like annihilating an entire town.
Howard Dean won the Vermont primary.I forgot about that! I'm ashamed of myself.
Yeah, I know.....
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